Charleston White breaks silence on Kanye West (“copying him”), Dr. Umar Johnson, Go Yayo, Jelly Roll, Wack 100 and 1090 Jake in a raw, unfiltered full interview with Loon on It’s Up There Podcast. From the Kanye chain moment and industry fallout to whether Loon can broker Charleston vs. Dr. Umar on an HBCU stage, this episode mixes culture, comedy, and uncomfortable truth for maximum clarity—and controversy. In this Charleston White podcast conversation, Loon pushes for specifics: Kanye’s playbook vs. Charleston’s “spin move,” schools inviting Go Yayo, how Jelly Roll was treated before he blew up, paperwork culture around 1090 Jake, and what real community work looks like (nonprofits, police partnerships, youth funding). If you follow Kanye West, Charleston White, Dr. Umar Johnson, Go Yayo, or Jelly Roll, this episode is a must-watch. 🔗 Links Patreon (early access): https://patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast Discord (community): https://discord.gg/3AwsHfDcJB Full playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnwwxLxHiDWYLCXvb81w69QAfr6cc1Y3N #ItsUpTherePodcast #CharlestonWhite #KanyeWest #DrUmarJohnson #GoYayo #JellyRoll0:00 - Introduction and Setting the Stage 00:00:00 – Charleston White Calls Out Kanye West & the Hidden Power of “Invisible Hands” 00:02:12 – Fixing the Rift with Dr. Umar Johnson: “The Missions Are Not the Same” 00:03:03 – The Barber Shop Attack: How Feds, Dirty Cops & Politics Got Involved 00:05:10 – From D.C. to Texas: Speaking Tours, Radical Labels & FBI Attention 00:08:00 – The Blueprint for Black Nonprofits & Why He Teamed Up With Police 00:10:14 – How Churches, Pastors & Nonprofits Really Get City Funding 00:12:11 – Breaking the “Anti-Police” Mold: Learning How the System Really Works 00:14:08 – Groomed to Sell Out: Why Charleston Turned Against the Culture 00:16:23 – Inferiority Complex & The Lie About Growing Up “From the Mud” 00:17:30 – Betrayal, Friends Coming Home From Prison & Street Politics Lessons 00:22:16 – Joining a Gang in the Early ’90s: TV Influence & Acronym Brainwashing 00:26:14 – Monster Kody’s Book & the Rise of Gang Knowledge Power 00:27:02 – Charleston on 1090 Jake: “There Should Be a Call of Action” 00:30:14 – Jelly Roll’s Journey: Mistreatment, Survival & Country Music Takeover 00:35:52 – Comparing Jelly Roll’s Story to Joseph in the Bible 00:37:14 – Fort Worth Dropped the Ball: Go Yayo, Schools & Missed Opportunities 00:40:33 – Riding the Bus, Raising Kids, & Community Work Without Support 00:42:15 – Exposing Federal Snitches: The Truth Behind the Barber Shop Attack 00:46:04 – Hip-Hop’s Rhetoric, Colors & How Songs Indoctrinated Kids 00:49:09 – How Hollywood Turned Gangsterism Into a Mind-Altering Machine 00:53:09 – Live Interview Strategy: Building Equity & Controlling the Narrative 00:55:57 – Why Charleston Chose to Play the Villain to Save Black Culture 00:57:32 – Loon Plans a Charleston x Umar Johnson Live Show at HBCUs 00:58:22 – Hollywood is an Entity: The Power of Imagery & Villain Marketing 00:59:38 – Gangster Imagery as a Substance: Why Hip-Hop Shapes Minds 01:00:00 - Violence and Legal Consequences 01:03:15 - Asian Detective Case and Rhetoric Consequences 01:06:30 - Suburb Kid Playing Hood: Inferiority Complex 01:09:45 - Blue Collar Middle Class Background Truth 01:12:20 - Comedy and Truth-Telling Power 01:15:35 - Golden Glove Champion Attack Story 01:18:50 - Police Corruption and Community Cleanup Efforts Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOOJoin Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch

<p>Charleston White breaks silence on Kanye West (&ldquo;copying him&rdquo;), Dr. Umar Johnson, Go Yayo, Jelly Roll, Wack 100 and 1090 Jake in a raw, unfiltered full interview with Loon on It&rsquo;s Up There Podcast. From the Kanye chain moment and industry fallout to whether Loon can broker Charleston vs. Dr. Umar on an HBCU stage, this episode mixes culture, comedy, and uncomfortable truth for maximum clarity&mdash;and controversy. In this Charleston White podcast conversation, Loon pushes for specifics: Kanye&rsquo;s playbook vs. Charleston&rsquo;s &ldquo;spin move,&rdquo; schools inviting Go Yayo, how Jelly Roll was treated before he blew up, paperwork culture around 1090 Jake, and what real community work looks like (nonprofits, police partnerships, youth funding). If you follow Kanye West, Charleston White, Dr. Umar Johnson, Go Yayo, or Jelly Roll, this episode is a must-watch. 🔗 Links Patreon (early access): https://patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast Discord (community): https://discord.gg/3AwsHfDcJB Full playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnwwxLxHiDWYLCXvb81w69QAfr6cc1Y3N #ItsUpTherePodcast #CharlestonWhite #KanyeWest #DrUmarJohnson #GoYayo #JellyRoll0:00 - Introduction and Setting the Stage 00:00:00 &ndash; Charleston White Calls Out Kanye West &amp; the Hidden Power of &ldquo;Invisible Hands&rdquo; 00:02:12 &ndash; Fixing the Rift with Dr. Umar Johnson: &ldquo;The Missions Are Not the Same&rdquo; 00:03:03 &ndash; The Barber Shop Attack: How Feds, Dirty Cops &amp; Politics Got Involved 00:05:10 &ndash; From D.C. to Texas: Speaking Tours, Radical Labels &amp; FBI Attention 00:08:00 &ndash; The Blueprint for Black Nonprofits &amp; Why He Teamed Up With Police 00:10:14 &ndash; How Churches, Pastors &amp; Nonprofits Really Get City Funding 00:12:11 &ndash; Breaking the &ldquo;Anti-Police&rdquo; Mold: Learning How the System Really Works 00:14:08 &ndash; Groomed to Sell Out: Why Charleston Turned Against the Culture 00:16:23 &ndash; Inferiority Complex &amp; The Lie About Growing Up &ldquo;From the Mud&rdquo; 00:17:30 &ndash; Betrayal, Friends Coming Home From Prison &amp; Street Politics Lessons 00:22:16 &ndash; Joining a Gang in the Early &rsquo;90s: TV Influence &amp; Acronym Brainwashing 00:26:14 &ndash; Monster Kody&rsquo;s Book &amp; the Rise of Gang Knowledge Power 00:27:02 &ndash; Charleston on 1090 Jake: &ldquo;There Should Be a Call of Action&rdquo; 00:30:14 &ndash; Jelly Roll&rsquo;s Journey: Mistreatment, Survival &amp; Country Music Takeover 00:35:52 &ndash; Comparing Jelly Roll&rsquo;s Story to Joseph in the Bible 00:37:14 &ndash; Fort Worth Dropped the Ball: Go Yayo, Schools &amp; Missed Opportunities 00:40:33 &ndash; Riding the Bus, Raising Kids, &amp; Community Work Without Support 00:42:15 &ndash; Exposing Federal Snitches: The Truth Behind the Barber Shop Attack 00:46:04 &ndash; Hip-Hop&rsquo;s Rhetoric, Colors &amp; How Songs Indoctrinated Kids 00:49:09 &ndash; How Hollywood Turned Gangsterism Into a Mind-Altering Machine 00:53:09 &ndash; Live Interview Strategy: Building Equity &amp; Controlling the Narrative 00:55:57 &ndash; Why Charleston Chose to Play the Villain to Save Black Culture 00:57:32 &ndash; Loon Plans a Charleston x Umar Johnson Live Show at HBCUs 00:58:22 &ndash; Hollywood is an Entity: The Power of Imagery &amp; Villain Marketing 00:59:38 &ndash; Gangster Imagery as a Substance: Why Hip-Hop Shapes Minds 01:00:00 - Violence and Legal Consequences 01:03:15 - Asian Detective Case and Rhetoric Consequences 01:06:30 - Suburb Kid Playing Hood: Inferiority Complex 01:09:45 - Blue Collar Middle Class Background Truth 01:12:20 - Comedy and Truth-Telling Power 01:15:35 - Golden Glove Champion Attack Story 01:18:50 - Police Corruption and Community Cleanup Efforts Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews &amp; more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&amp;list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOOJoin Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews &amp; more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch</p>

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Feat Charleston White Part 2 - Charleston White FINALLY SPEAKS ON Kanye West “Copying Him”, Dr. Umar Johnson, Go Yayo & Jelly Roll

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