Lawyer's perspective. From a legal perspective, is there any difference between thug's plea and gunner's plea? Not because you sat next to him two years Is there a scenario where you, as a lawyer say, those two are the same things. I affiliated with Cel around two thousands?

Lawyer's perspective. From a legal perspective, is there any difference between thug's plea and gunner's plea? Not because you sat next to him two years Is there a scenario where you, as a lawyer say, those two are the same things. I affiliated with Cel around two thousands?

Is that true?

Is that true?

As yes, by Cell is a music label and a game, and you have personal knowledge that members are associating by Cell?

As yes, by Cell is a music label and a game, and you have personal knowledge that members are associating by Cell?

Has many primes been part of the.

Has many primes been part of the.

Selling game because he didn't wouldn't sign off on all their little things? Why I sell as a gang and all this other business? He had to take that non negotiated plea, right, the blind plea. He had to risk going to prison. He risked going to prison partially so he wouldn't have to sign off on all that stuff that were to hurt the other guys.

Selling game because he didn't wouldn't sign off on all their little things? Why I sell as a gang and all this other business? He had to take that non negotiated plea, right, the blind plea. He had to risk going to prison. He risked going to prison partially so he wouldn't have to sign off on all that stuff that were to hurt the other guys.

You're still taking the risk when you're doing this blind plea. Why not take the risks alongside Brian.

You're still taking the risk when you're doing this blind plea. Why not take the risks alongside Brian.

Still, mister Williams, do you understand that this is a non negotiated plea of guilty and that if since your plea, your guilty plea is a blind plea or a non negotiated plea, the state is making a recommendation of sentencing to the court.

Still, mister Williams, do you understand that this is a non negotiated plea of guilty and that if since your plea, your guilty plea is a blind plea or a non negotiated plea, the state is making a recommendation of sentencing to the court.

We also have to examine the level of scrutiny Gunner has got right, Gunna has gotten a certain level of scrutiny for pleaing out in the same way that some people are saying that looks like Doug is now for lack of a better term, played out in the same way on day one. When when you're in a scenario where you know the state is bringing in the lead witness and we know it's Kenneth Cope and it's little Woody, what is the vibe over there in y'all corn it because we don't know we talked about before, we know his approach, what he's gonna say, Yeah, how he's gonna do this? What is the vibe in that corner out? Do you want to be here?

We also have to examine the level of scrutiny Gunner has got right, Gunna has gotten a certain level of scrutiny for pleaing out in the same way that some people are saying that looks like Doug is now for lack of a better term, played out in the same way on day one. When when you're in a scenario where you know the state is bringing in the lead witness and we know it's Kenneth Cope and it's little Woody, what is the vibe over there in y'all corn it because we don't know we talked about before, we know his approach, what he's gonna say, Yeah, how he's gonna do this? What is the vibe in that corner out? Do you want to be here?

I'm here?

I'm here?

Okay? Well, are you gonna let me ask you some questions?

Okay? Well, are you gonna let me ask you some questions?

Okay?

Okay?

How old are you?

How old are you?

Okay? What does grown mean?

Okay? What does grown mean?

I'm under dupe?

I'm under dupe?

Okay?

Okay?

And when he said you're to do what number of years are you?

And when he said you're to do what number of years are you?

I pleed the field ladies, gentlemen, can I get you a step outside to your headquarters the jury deliberation?

I pleed the field ladies, gentlemen, can I get you a step outside to your headquarters the jury deliberation?

Please?

Please?

Do you did you see a difference between the way wood he handled you and your side versus how we handled the prosecution.

Do you did you see a difference between the way wood he handled you and your side versus how we handled the prosecution.

Tell you there was a day they went in there and did some kind of dumb ass raid right into the court. Real what, Yeah, they did something like courts and session. All of a sudden, Judge Glanville falls a recess. He's like, we got to take a recess. And by the way, that day, tons of media were in the room. They wanted Thugh. The target was Thuugh.

Tell you there was a day they went in there and did some kind of dumb ass raid right into the court. Real what, Yeah, they did something like courts and session. All of a sudden, Judge Glanville falls a recess. He's like, we got to take a recess. And by the way, that day, tons of media were in the room. They wanted Thugh. The target was Thuugh.

So as the defense team over there for yet gott it. You don't see an issue with Gunna saying that this is a game.

So as the defense team over there for yet gott it. You don't see an issue with Gunna saying that this is a game.

I'm not happy that he said it, But you know what, I can explain that to the jury, and his lawyer knows I can explain that to the jury.

I'm not happy that he said it, But you know what, I can explain that to the jury, and his lawyer knows I can explain that to the jury.

You were present when law enforcement officers stopped the vehicle in which you were present along with Jeffrey Williams, where in Hydrocodon met them Bettis and a fuirearm where we cout these items did not belong to you.

You were present when law enforcement officers stopped the vehicle in which you were present along with Jeffrey Williams, where in Hydrocodon met them Bettis and a fuirearm where we cout these items did not belong to you.

Let's start with the fact that we didn't have all the evidence ten days before trial, like as a requirement. That's a requirement in Georgia law and we're getting evidence six one cent. We had a prosecutor, a lead prosecutor that was lying to the court, and you know what, she can come after me, come on after me, but she was lying to the court.

Let's start with the fact that we didn't have all the evidence ten days before trial, like as a requirement. That's a requirement in Georgia law and we're getting evidence six one cent. We had a prosecutor, a lead prosecutor that was lying to the court, and you know what, she can come after me, come on after me, but she was lying to the court.

Have you reached any benefits from being so visible with the trial? I mean, I know you already married man and things like the brands, followers, endorsements, clients.

Have you reached any benefits from being so visible with the trial? I mean, I know you already married man and things like the brands, followers, endorsements, clients.

Well, yeah, I got clients from Yeah, for sure, I got clients from it.

Well, yeah, I got clients from Yeah, for sure, I got clients from it.

Yeah that's pretty cool.

Yeah that's pretty cool.

That's good.

That's good.

Yeah, no, it's better than I would. Thank you your visibility. Do you know what to do with visibility? Though?

Yeah, no, it's better than I would. Thank you your visibility. Do you know what to do with visibility? Though?

You know, I'm trying to do good and make money, right, So are we all now?

You know, I'm trying to do good and make money, right, So are we all now?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Cool? I wanted to know. Yeah, no, because, like I'm pushing for like the Rap Act and a bunch of states to try to limit when lyrics can come in against folks. So use it for that. Uh, And then I'm trying to draw attention to how messed up Right Street is.

Cool? I wanted to know. Yeah, no, because, like I'm pushing for like the Rap Act and a bunch of states to try to limit when lyrics can come in against folks. So use it for that. Uh, And then I'm trying to draw attention to how messed up Right Street is.

Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people they've been I'm plaining by this shit for years. I know about that, and I ain't even from here.

Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people they've been I'm plaining by this shit for years. I know about that, and I ain't even from here.

I know for years and years. But that doesn't mean we should stop complaining.

I know for years and years. But that doesn't mean we should stop complaining.

That's a fact. But your resources making be utilized in a better place. Well, we'll see visibility. I don't know. I mean, I don't say it is not worth doing, but I'm just saying sometimes it's corruption on top of corruption on top of corruption and bureaucracy and you just can't get through to the people.

That's a fact. But your resources making be utilized in a better place. Well, we'll see visibility. I don't know. I mean, I don't say it is not worth doing, but I'm just saying sometimes it's corruption on top of corruption on top of corruption and bureaucracy and you just can't get through to the people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, you got all these little fiefdoms in Fulton County. You got the Fulton County Commission, you got the Sheriff's office, you got the DA You kind of in a way, you got the courts and all. They're all tussling with each other. And that's kind of what's going on in some of this right right. But that doesn't mean I think people forget they're human beings locked up over in Rice Street.

You know, you got all these little fiefdoms in Fulton County. You got the Fulton County Commission, you got the Sheriff's office, you got the DA You kind of in a way, you got the courts and all. They're all tussling with each other. And that's kind of what's going on in some of this right right. But that doesn't mean I think people forget they're human beings locked up over in Rice Street.

Yes, And.

Yes, And.

Honestly, like before I started doing this criminal law, I didn't think about it much. Now people don't think about it. But you know, the I put the problem with Rice Street, that's the citizens of Fulton County. It's on them. They need to pressure the missioners to get their act together, put some money into that place, fix it. It's not so much on the sheriff, I mean, honestly, but the citizens and the Fulton County Commission. They need to get their damn.

Honestly, like before I started doing this criminal law, I didn't think about it much. Now people don't think about it. But you know, the I put the problem with Rice Street, that's the citizens of Fulton County. It's on them. They need to pressure the missioners to get their act together, put some money into that place, fix it. It's not so much on the sheriff, I mean, honestly, but the citizens and the Fulton County Commission. They need to get their damn.

Do they even know that? But I guess the public. I try to let people know, right, And that's why we'll talk about it today. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Do they even know that? But I guess the public. I try to let people know, right, And that's why we'll talk about it today. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

I mean, I'm sure the people on Cleveland Avenue know about it, right, But the people up in Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, you know, Buckhead, do they know or care? I don't think so. And you know what the sad part is. You know what's gonna take to fix Rice Street? This is pitiful. This was what it's gonna take. You're gonna need some fifty year old, forty five year old white guy for Buckhead to get killed in Rice Street before you see action. And that's just that's a shame. Yes, but the world shouldn't work that way.

I mean, I'm sure the people on Cleveland Avenue know about it, right, But the people up in Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, you know, Buckhead, do they know or care? I don't think so. And you know what the sad part is. You know what's gonna take to fix Rice Street? This is pitiful. This was what it's gonna take. You're gonna need some fifty year old, forty five year old white guy for Buckhead to get killed in Rice Street before you see action. And that's just that's a shame. Yes, but the world shouldn't work that way.

It's unfortunate, but that's true. Yeah, Yo, welcome to us up there podcast. I am your active and attractive host. For another episode, I got someone that I really was looking forward to speaking to, someone that put on a clinic if you asked me, in the longest trial in us A history. We got Doug Weinstein. How are you, brother?

It's unfortunate, but that's true. Yeah, Yo, welcome to us up there podcast. I am your active and attractive host. For another episode, I got someone that I really was looking forward to speaking to, someone that put on a clinic if you asked me, in the longest trial in us A history. We got Doug Weinstein. How are you, brother?

I'm doing great? And thank you for having me. I wouldn't say it was a clinic. I would say we had a great team in there, and we all worked together really well.

I'm doing great? And thank you for having me. I wouldn't say it was a clinic. I would say we had a great team in there, and we all worked together really well.

But if we and if you can't get this closer to you, I can do that. Yeah, But but if we're being honest, right, I was looking over some clips when you needed to be very direct, you were very direct. I remember one time when you stood up and wanted a mistrial and you said, you cannot fix this.

But if we and if you can't get this closer to you, I can do that. Yeah, But but if we're being honest, right, I was looking over some clips when you needed to be very direct, you were very direct. I remember one time when you stood up and wanted a mistrial and you said, you cannot fix this.

I moved from a mistrial. This absolutely cannot be unheard by the jury. It was here heard clear as day in his deep, sonorous voice. They have heard it, they have absorbed it. It cannot be fixed.

I moved from a mistrial. This absolutely cannot be unheard by the jury. It was here heard clear as day in his deep, sonorous voice. They have heard it, they have absorbed it. It cannot be fixed.

If you can just give us an opportunity just to look at some case lawedist to see.

If you can just give us an opportunity just to look at some case lawedist to see.

If your honor, I'm sorry, how many times has this man testified in a trial. How long has he been in I know he's a retired investigator. How long has he been an investigator? He knows he is not supposed to say that, your honor, I would find it.

If your honor, I'm sorry, how many times has this man testified in a trial. How long has he been in I know he's a retired investigator. How long has he been an investigator? He knows he is not supposed to say that, your honor, I would find it.

These kind of terminology and words are very direct, and someone like yourself knows how to position yourself in that way. So I mean, I would say that's a clinic. If you asked me, well.

These kind of terminology and words are very direct, and someone like yourself knows how to position yourself in that way. So I mean, I would say that's a clinic. If you asked me, well.

Thank you, that's kind to say. But I really did want to explain to the judge that we're in a situation that honestly, she couldn't fix. I think she did her best to try. Let's give her some credit for that, right, but I don't think she could fix it. The jury ended up fixing it. That's what happened, right, and God bless them for doing that.

Thank you, that's kind to say. But I really did want to explain to the judge that we're in a situation that honestly, she couldn't fix. I think she did her best to try. Let's give her some credit for that, right, but I don't think she could fix it. The jury ended up fixing it. That's what happened, right, and God bless them for doing that.

Facts, you know, I think, But just that terminology was so important, right, you can cut the tension in the building. Right. It was just y'are and I need to And then you get up and you say, listen, this is basically we've had enough at this point. Yeah, right, you know, all of these different things are taking place. You cannot you understand how you understand, but if you and public may may not understand that positioning from a lawyer to a judge, you cannot fix this.

Facts, you know, I think, But just that terminology was so important, right, you can cut the tension in the building. Right. It was just y'are and I need to And then you get up and you say, listen, this is basically we've had enough at this point. Yeah, right, you know, all of these different things are taking place. You cannot you understand how you understand, but if you and public may may not understand that positioning from a lawyer to a judge, you cannot fix this.

There's times for big, fancy, eloquent language, but then you can use some of that, but then sometimes short, sweet direct There's always a place for that, and you have to know when to use it. But another example of that is, for I was thinking about this the other day, someone asked me, what was one of your favorite moments in trial? And it was when I was explaining to the judge how Judge Whittaker help with Judge Glanville before I was complaining about all this late evidence that was coming in six months in the trial. We're seeing stuff for the first time, and I complained to Judge Glanville, and Judge Glanville said, well, if this was a civil trial, I would keep it out. And I told Judge Whittaker, can you imagine that if it's a civil trial, when it's about money, he keep it out. When it's men's lives on the line, he lets it in. And I said to Judge, how do I explain that to my client? How do I explain that to Diamonte?

There's times for big, fancy, eloquent language, but then you can use some of that, but then sometimes short, sweet direct There's always a place for that, and you have to know when to use it. But another example of that is, for I was thinking about this the other day, someone asked me, what was one of your favorite moments in trial? And it was when I was explaining to the judge how Judge Whittaker help with Judge Glanville before I was complaining about all this late evidence that was coming in six months in the trial. We're seeing stuff for the first time, and I complained to Judge Glanville, and Judge Glanville said, well, if this was a civil trial, I would keep it out. And I told Judge Whittaker, can you imagine that if it's a civil trial, when it's about money, he keep it out. When it's men's lives on the line, he lets it in. And I said to Judge, how do I explain that to my client? How do I explain that to Diamonte?

Right? And what was his response? I don't remember that.

Right? And what was his response? I don't remember that.

She actually she had a very yeah, she had a very heartfelt response. She said, I don't know what you said. You're a client, right, and what you say right?

She actually she had a very yeah, she had a very heartfelt response. She said, I don't know what you said. You're a client, right, and what you say right?

And we'll get to Whitaker, and we'll also get the glamor because it's so much to unpack. Bro, It's just there's been so much happening, But I want to start with my research tells me that this is your first criminal trial.

And we'll get to Whitaker, and we'll also get the glamor because it's so much to unpack. Bro, It's just there's been so much happening, But I want to start with my research tells me that this is your first criminal trial.

Yeah, that was my first criminal trial. I'd been in a number of trials, but they were always civil. They were always federal, not state. So this was my first criminal trial and my first jury trial.

Yeah, that was my first criminal trial. I'd been in a number of trials, but they were always civil. They were always federal, not state. So this was my first criminal trial and my first jury trial.

We're going through both of those. What do you see as the difference. What's the distinct difference of those?

We're going through both of those. What do you see as the difference. What's the distinct difference of those?

You know, I think the I guess the biggest Well, you know, it's hard to say because hy SL was such a crazy trial. It wasn't a normal trial. Next week I'll be in a normal trial, and after next week, maybe I can tell you the difference because all I've seen is an insane criminal trial, high level, just crazy stuff. And but I will say this, I think the criminal trials are at a little more like the wild West than civil trials are in federal court, which are very, very orchestrated. Waltz is right. I'm always telling people trialing like you see in the movies, even criminal trial, it's not like what you see in the movies. It's a very orchestrated presentation. So that's kind of one of the biggest difference.

You know, I think the I guess the biggest Well, you know, it's hard to say because hy SL was such a crazy trial. It wasn't a normal trial. Next week I'll be in a normal trial, and after next week, maybe I can tell you the difference because all I've seen is an insane criminal trial, high level, just crazy stuff. And but I will say this, I think the criminal trials are at a little more like the wild West than civil trials are in federal court, which are very, very orchestrated. Waltz is right. I'm always telling people trialing like you see in the movies, even criminal trial, it's not like what you see in the movies. It's a very orchestrated presentation. So that's kind of one of the biggest difference.

But how do you explain why il trial? Because for all intensive purposes, people to say, yo, this is like the movies.

But how do you explain why il trial? Because for all intensive purposes, people to say, yo, this is like the movies.

I know it was like the movies, but it's not supposed to be, right, That's the whole thing. It's not supposed to be like.

I know it was like the movies, but it's not supposed to be, right, That's the whole thing. It's not supposed to be like.

Bro, we see them being this thing, this thing that this justice system is in a very weird place. Man.

Bro, we see them being this thing, this thing that this justice system is in a very weird place. Man.

You know, I would like to think, and I'm gonna withhold judgment here, right, I would like to think that that YSL trial wasn't anomaly, wasn't And I given the parts of other trials I've seen, I kind of think it was an exception in a lot of ways, but.

You know, I would like to think, and I'm gonna withhold judgment here, right, I would like to think that that YSL trial wasn't anomaly, wasn't And I given the parts of other trials I've seen, I kind of think it was an exception in a lot of ways, but.

Not not No, no, no, it was an exception as far as visibility, but not as far as treatment.

Not not No, no, no, it was an exception as far as visibility, but not as far as treatment.

Well, I don't know that. I'm gonna wait and see. I'm gonna withhold judge.

Well, I don't know that. I'm gonna wait and see. I'm gonna withhold judge.

Tell me, tell me what do you think was Because you're in the room with some people that's been through some things, that's right, So tell me what you think is anomaly for the.

Tell me, tell me what do you think was Because you're in the room with some people that's been through some things, that's right, So tell me what you think is anomaly for the.

Well, I'll tell you it's different than the YSL trial so much. Let's I don't even know where to begin. Let's start with the fact that we didn't have all the evidence ten days before trial, like as a requirement. That's a requirement in Georgia law and we're getting evidence six months in. We had a prosecutor, a lead prosecutor that was lying to the court and you know what, she can come after me, come on after me. But she was lying to the court. We had a lead prosecutor that was lying about the law, lying about what the defense attorneys had done, accusing Brian Steele of altering evidence. Right. I mean, I could probably sit here for an hour and tell you how nuts this trial was.

Well, I'll tell you it's different than the YSL trial so much. Let's I don't even know where to begin. Let's start with the fact that we didn't have all the evidence ten days before trial, like as a requirement. That's a requirement in Georgia law and we're getting evidence six months in. We had a prosecutor, a lead prosecutor that was lying to the court and you know what, she can come after me, come on after me. But she was lying to the court. We had a lead prosecutor that was lying about the law, lying about what the defense attorneys had done, accusing Brian Steele of altering evidence. Right. I mean, I could probably sit here for an hour and tell you how nuts this trial was.

You know, But I think if the longer you do criminal trials, you'll see that, oh, this is a little bit more normal than I thought. Maybe not ten for ten, Right, but because we look at asap Rocky's trial with with them being in the scenario where the whole defense is he had a startup pistol, and then literally on opening day they show up with ballistic evidence.

You know, But I think if the longer you do criminal trials, you'll see that, oh, this is a little bit more normal than I thought. Maybe not ten for ten, Right, but because we look at asap Rocky's trial with with them being in the scenario where the whole defense is he had a startup pistol, and then literally on opening day they show up with ballistic evidence.

I know.

I know.

So again, these are the games just being played across this nation.

So again, these are the games just being played across this nation.

That definitely was some gamesmanship there. Now you saw right in the shoot what's what's the.

That definitely was some gamesmanship there. Now you saw right in the shoot what's what's the.

Actor's name that was out in the what's the Johnny Devils?

Actor's name that was out in the what's the Johnny Devils?

No? No, the one that was in like thirty rock and Hunt for Red October and he's got all Baldwin Alex Baldwin trial. The prosecutors tried to do some nonsense and the judge wasn't having any of it.

No? No, the one that was in like thirty rock and Hunt for Red October and he's got all Baldwin Alex Baldwin trial. The prosecutors tried to do some nonsense and the judge wasn't having any of it.

That's what I'm telling you.

That's what I'm telling you.

Threw that out.

Threw that out.

There's three for three. You're gonna have to give me a trial. Bay. It didn't happen at this point because we're looking at three foot three saying yo, all right, there's Alec balwhin. They tried it, but it didn't work, so they're trying it. And if you don't got the visibility and the money and the equity that your team had, because not only you, but still has a certain equity in Georgia that needs to be respected and will be respected.

There's three for three. You're gonna have to give me a trial. Bay. It didn't happen at this point because we're looking at three foot three saying yo, all right, there's Alec balwhin. They tried it, but it didn't work, so they're trying it. And if you don't got the visibility and the money and the equity that your team had, because not only you, but still has a certain equity in Georgia that needs to be respected and will be respected.

Yeah, well, I still maintain and it would cost almost nothing. Every trial should be streamed. It doesn't cost anything to put a camera in the courtroom and get a YouTube channel and stream that trial, and it would bring light on everything and I think it would just be a great thing. Now, we have judges in Fulton County that stream their trials. They stream their court all the time. So we have some judges that do that. But we need to do it not just in the state courts, but in the federal courts.

Yeah, well, I still maintain and it would cost almost nothing. Every trial should be streamed. It doesn't cost anything to put a camera in the courtroom and get a YouTube channel and stream that trial, and it would bring light on everything and I think it would just be a great thing. Now, we have judges in Fulton County that stream their trials. They stream their court all the time. So we have some judges that do that. But we need to do it not just in the state courts, but in the federal courts.

All that.

All that.

Trials are supposed to be public, and they are public. You can walk in and watch a trial, right, But these days public doesn't mean what it meant two hundred and fifty years ago. Yes, I think, and I think Bruce Harvey's with me on this, although I don't want to speak for Bruce. If you want a public trial, that trial needs to be televised a lot of the time. Yeah, it really does.

Trials are supposed to be public, and they are public. You can walk in and watch a trial, right, But these days public doesn't mean what it meant two hundred and fifty years ago. Yes, I think, and I think Bruce Harvey's with me on this, although I don't want to speak for Bruce. If you want a public trial, that trial needs to be televised a lot of the time. Yeah, it really does.

That's the only way you can make sure that is fair. You keep it honest. Yeah, because again, and if we're being real, it doesn't necessarily always even work for the defendant, because sometimes you get to see things that don't go in as favor. But it's still it is the truth.

That's the only way you can make sure that is fair. You keep it honest. Yeah, because again, and if we're being real, it doesn't necessarily always even work for the defendant, because sometimes you get to see things that don't go in as favor. But it's still it is the truth.

Let's get the truth. Let's get the truth out there. And so every time the state would try to not show a witness, unless they had a great reason, I would object. So, you know, for example, state didn't want to show Gaither, right, a major witness in this case didn't want to show Gaither. Gaither is like a rash all over the internet. The Hawks are promoting her her images out there. She was on first was it first forty eight, first twenty four, whatever it's called. That that. Yeah, that's the forty eight's first forty eight episode. After episode, so her identity was known, there was no reason not to show her. So, you know, what's the only reason not to show that. I can't think of one. You know, if she wants to get on It's what I said earlier in the case to Judge Glenville. If someone wants to get on that stand and tell lies about my client, I want them to have to look my client in the eyes. That's why we were up front. I want them to look my client in the eyes while they lie on them, and I want a camera on them because I want the public to see what they're saying.

Let's get the truth. Let's get the truth out there. And so every time the state would try to not show a witness, unless they had a great reason, I would object. So, you know, for example, state didn't want to show Gaither, right, a major witness in this case didn't want to show Gaither. Gaither is like a rash all over the internet. The Hawks are promoting her her images out there. She was on first was it first forty eight, first twenty four, whatever it's called. That that. Yeah, that's the forty eight's first forty eight episode. After episode, so her identity was known, there was no reason not to show her. So, you know, what's the only reason not to show that. I can't think of one. You know, if she wants to get on It's what I said earlier in the case to Judge Glenville. If someone wants to get on that stand and tell lies about my client, I want them to have to look my client in the eyes. That's why we were up front. I want them to look my client in the eyes while they lie on them, and I want a camera on them because I want the public to see what they're saying.

Right, And I like that dog in you though. I like that dog in you.

Right, And I like that dog in you though. I like that dog in you.

I have a little bit of that.

I have a little bit of that.

Yeah, And I think you got a little bit of live wire about you too, Like it's like this little like he'll he'll say it, bro, He's not gonna let you just walk over him. And for me, I respect that, and I think in courtrooms that's needed.

Yeah, And I think you got a little bit of live wire about you too, Like it's like this little like he'll he'll say it, bro, He's not gonna let you just walk over him. And for me, I respect that, and I think in courtrooms that's needed.

Well, Look, we're talking a little bit earlier about is this trial coming up? A big trial that I have it next week. It's a huge trial for my client. It's the biggest trial in the world. So that man sitting next to me or woman, I mean, it's everything to them. And if you want to put that man in prison or that woman in prison, you're gonna have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. And if you want to put witnesses on the stand, they should have to look him in the face. That's that's the law.

Well, Look, we're talking a little bit earlier about is this trial coming up? A big trial that I have it next week. It's a huge trial for my client. It's the biggest trial in the world. So that man sitting next to me or woman, I mean, it's everything to them. And if you want to put that man in prison or that woman in prison, you're gonna have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. And if you want to put witnesses on the stand, they should have to look him in the face. That's that's the law.

If you were my lawyer, right, and we had a relationship, I'm telling you this, and I don't feel like you know, I don't I don't sugar coat. I don't have a reason to. And it cost me nothing, right, yeah, nothing right. So but if you were my lawyer, I wonder if yet, God, he was sleeping, like you know, he was probably sleeping as good as thug like thinking like, yo, I got a guy that is really working on my behalf that won't me out and it's going to try to prove his self or prove my innercy. This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks, the most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. It's just you all gets the numbers. You pick more or less on two to six player stats projections, like you will pick Patrick Mahomes for up to two passing touchdowns or sakwuon Barkley for more than sixty yards and you watch the winnings roll in. I've been using prize Picks and it's just so simple. I can make my picks and submit an entry in less than sixty seconds. That's just one minute, and the withdraws it makes the experience even better. After you win, you definitely don't want to wait, and don't miss out on Taco Tuesdays, that's where selected player projections are discounted up to twenty five percent. Go to prizepicks dot com use my Cold IUTP to receive a guarantee fifty dollars when you play just five dollars. Again, that's prizepicks dot com My Cold IUTP. If you support the show, sign up for prize picks, use my cold and watch the winnings rolllin. This is daily Fantasy Sports made easy. Salute the Prize Picks for supporting the movement. And let's get back to the episode. Like Yo, I got a guy that is really working on my behalf that won't me out and it's going to try to prove his self, approve my innocence.

If you were my lawyer, right, and we had a relationship, I'm telling you this, and I don't feel like you know, I don't I don't sugar coat. I don't have a reason to. And it cost me nothing, right, yeah, nothing right. So but if you were my lawyer, I wonder if yet, God, he was sleeping, like you know, he was probably sleeping as good as thug like thinking like, yo, I got a guy that is really working on my behalf that won't me out and it's going to try to prove his self or prove my innercy. This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks, the most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. It's just you all gets the numbers. You pick more or less on two to six player stats projections, like you will pick Patrick Mahomes for up to two passing touchdowns or sakwuon Barkley for more than sixty yards and you watch the winnings roll in. I've been using prize Picks and it's just so simple. I can make my picks and submit an entry in less than sixty seconds. That's just one minute, and the withdraws it makes the experience even better. After you win, you definitely don't want to wait, and don't miss out on Taco Tuesdays, that's where selected player projections are discounted up to twenty five percent. Go to prizepicks dot com use my Cold IUTP to receive a guarantee fifty dollars when you play just five dollars. Again, that's prizepicks dot com My Cold IUTP. If you support the show, sign up for prize picks, use my cold and watch the winnings rolllin. This is daily Fantasy Sports made easy. Salute the Prize Picks for supporting the movement. And let's get back to the episode. Like Yo, I got a guy that is really working on my behalf that won't me out and it's going to try to prove his self, approve my innocence.

I hope so you know, I had to prove that up to him because I'm not the lawyer he hired. The lawyer he hired was my boss, Jay App.

I hope so you know, I had to prove that up to him because I'm not the lawyer he hired. The lawyer he hired was my boss, Jay App.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, So when it was me that was kind of appearing there all the time, I had to prove myself to him, and I had to earn his trust and earn his respect. I think I did that over time. You know, Jack Diamonte, he's a smart guy. So getting him involved in the trial, getting his input, that was really helpful. Now did he sleep well? I mean, we had a chance, we could have pled out, we could have planed out. I took an offer to him because I'm required to do that from the state, right, I think about fifteen sixteen years to serve I can't remember exactly. And he's like, no way, I didn't do this, crap, I didn't do this. We're gonna take it to the jury, you know, take it to trial and take it to the jury. We're gonna see what they say. I trust you, man, I trust you are gonna take it. We're gonna go.

Yeah, So when it was me that was kind of appearing there all the time, I had to prove myself to him, and I had to earn his trust and earn his respect. I think I did that over time. You know, Jack Diamonte, he's a smart guy. So getting him involved in the trial, getting his input, that was really helpful. Now did he sleep well? I mean, we had a chance, we could have pled out, we could have planed out. I took an offer to him because I'm required to do that from the state, right, I think about fifteen sixteen years to serve I can't remember exactly. And he's like, no way, I didn't do this, crap, I didn't do this. We're gonna take it to the jury, you know, take it to trial and take it to the jury. We're gonna see what they say. I trust you, man, I trust you are gonna take it. We're gonna go.

Well, let's bag up some Yeah, so your boss didn't show up for this very prestigious case with this level of visibility.

Well, let's bag up some Yeah, so your boss didn't show up for this very prestigious case with this level of visibility.

Well, I would, I wouldn't put it that way. We were kind of all working on the case together, and at the beginning we would kind of take turns in court. But it came to the point where early, pretty early on in the trial that I really asked to kind of be the one in court day to day because I I.

Well, I would, I wouldn't put it that way. We were kind of all working on the case together, and at the beginning we would kind of take turns in court. But it came to the point where early, pretty early on in the trial that I really asked to kind of be the one in court day to day because I I.

Just I'm just wondering, is he older? Is he No?

Just I'm just wondering, is he older? Is he No?

No, No, he's younger than me. He was there, He's got a really good cross that you can see I think around October, okay, but he was there from time to time. And then there was someone else, Katie Hingerty, So the three of us all worked together. We were all in that trial. So you're probably going to get to it. But like on my in my motion, not my motion, but when I tried to get Glanville Raques and I went to the Supreme Court, Katie Hingerty helped me write that brief.

No, No, he's younger than me. He was there, He's got a really good cross that you can see I think around October, okay, but he was there from time to time. And then there was someone else, Katie Hingerty, So the three of us all worked together. We were all in that trial. So you're probably going to get to it. But like on my in my motion, not my motion, but when I tried to get Glanville Raques and I went to the Supreme Court, Katie Hingerty helped me write that brief.

And I'm all working on right, I imagine that I'm just wondering if hires this guy, and it's a level of clout attached to this nigga. This is why sale case. Yeah, you see what I'm saying, and yet reaching for you and it's like I'm gonna pass it, or we gonna decide to put you in the forefront and you and you prove it.

And I'm all working on right, I imagine that I'm just wondering if hires this guy, and it's a level of clout attached to this nigga. This is why sale case. Yeah, you see what I'm saying, and yet reaching for you and it's like I'm gonna pass it, or we gonna decide to put you in the forefront and you and you prove it.

And I couldn't have done it without his support. Right, I'm not gonna go in there and say I'm taking over. You're just stuck with me. But I think I just showed him a knowledge of the case and demonstrated you know, it was more than anything. I think, just showing them that I cared, showing him that I had heart, and that I was gonna work my tail off to get him out of there. And that's I don't have as much experience as these other guy, at least in criminal as these other guys in the courtroom. I mean, I've been in the courtroom almost thirty years, but I have a much experience of these other guys. But I think he saw and I'm not bragging. I'm just telling the truth. I mean I developed a relationship with him, yeah, for sure. And it would have it would have torn me up inside to see him found guilty on any those counts and go to prison. I'm not happy right now with him sitting in jail.

And I couldn't have done it without his support. Right, I'm not gonna go in there and say I'm taking over. You're just stuck with me. But I think I just showed him a knowledge of the case and demonstrated you know, it was more than anything. I think, just showing them that I cared, showing him that I had heart, and that I was gonna work my tail off to get him out of there. And that's I don't have as much experience as these other guy, at least in criminal as these other guys in the courtroom. I mean, I've been in the courtroom almost thirty years, but I have a much experience of these other guys. But I think he saw and I'm not bragging. I'm just telling the truth. I mean I developed a relationship with him, yeah, for sure. And it would have it would have torn me up inside to see him found guilty on any those counts and go to prison. I'm not happy right now with him sitting in jail.

What's his status right now?

What's his status right now?

Well, you know, he had three things he was dealing with. Right, he had a probation revocation, which is the reason he couldn't get bonded earlier. And he's got one case that's an aggravated assault right in a penal institution. That's worse than it sounds. I mean, it sounds worse than it is. He's got that agasault right in a penal institution from a fight that was in the jail. And then he had some contraband allegedly in a cell. So he's got those two cases. But I'm pretty sure he's going to end up getting bonded out. I don't know when, but I would I would imagine he's going to get bonded out soon. So let you and the probation revocation is gone. They withdrew that. That's huge, by the way, huge Bruce Harvey and Nicole Nicole got that.

Well, you know, he had three things he was dealing with. Right, he had a probation revocation, which is the reason he couldn't get bonded earlier. And he's got one case that's an aggravated assault right in a penal institution. That's worse than it sounds. I mean, it sounds worse than it is. He's got that agasault right in a penal institution from a fight that was in the jail. And then he had some contraband allegedly in a cell. So he's got those two cases. But I'm pretty sure he's going to end up getting bonded out. I don't know when, but I would I would imagine he's going to get bonded out soon. So let you and the probation revocation is gone. They withdrew that. That's huge, by the way, huge Bruce Harvey and Nicole Nicole got that.

Take care of you, Yeah for sure, shout out to awesome job. Yeah. So what the case the young thug wise trial. It was a fifty six count racketeering indictment. It was if you had to give a grade on what the prosecution did or number great in scale number one to ten, what would you give them?

Take care of you, Yeah for sure, shout out to awesome job. Yeah. So what the case the young thug wise trial. It was a fifty six count racketeering indictment. It was if you had to give a grade on what the prosecution did or number great in scale number one to ten, what would you give them?

You mean, on the quality of how they did their case. Yes, I would give them like a three, I would say on a one to ten. And again that's because of the lead prosecutor, not because of the people under her.

You mean, on the quality of how they did their case. Yes, I would give them like a three, I would say on a one to ten. And again that's because of the lead prosecutor, not because of the people under her.

I think now it's the lead prosecutor Fanny Willis or Adrian Love.

I think now it's the lead prosecutor Fanny Willis or Adrian Love.

Adrian Love, I really would chalk it up to her and the way she chose to run this case and present her case. But I think the other prosecutors around her are are almost universally good good prosecutors.

Adrian Love, I really would chalk it up to her and the way she chose to run this case and present her case. But I think the other prosecutors around her are are almost universally good good prosecutors.

Have you ever did prosecution? I have not.

Have you ever did prosecution? I have not.

So maybe when people could say I'm sure if Mss Love is looking at this right now, she'd say, I'm not qualified to render an opinion. But I watched her for two years.

So maybe when people could say I'm sure if Mss Love is looking at this right now, she'd say, I'm not qualified to render an opinion. But I watched her for two years.

And I pined you to the mat basically beat we beat that what you've done. So you know what I'm saying, I mean, with all due respect, like what y'all presented, we ended up on you know.

And I pined you to the mat basically beat we beat that what you've done. So you know what I'm saying, I mean, with all due respect, like what y'all presented, we ended up on you know.

I mean, you lost to a rookie. So I mean that's the truth.

I mean, you lost to a rookie. So I mean that's the truth.

That is the actual truth. So how do you prepare for a trial of this magnitude because this is I guess this is crossing over with traditional litigation and now digital evidence. Well, This is kind of one of the first times you had to miss those two things.

That is the actual truth. So how do you prepare for a trial of this magnitude because this is I guess this is crossing over with traditional litigation and now digital evidence. Well, This is kind of one of the first times you had to miss those two things.

You know, it's very interesting you say that because we had six terabytes six terabytes now and I don't have the resources of Thug and Brian Steele. I don't have a whole team of people that can comb through that. What was very helpful for me is being as old as I am. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why, because I'm an old software double god. I'm an electrical engineering and software guy. And back in the seventies and early eighties or eighties, there was this piece of software called Unix, and it has this very complicated tool in it called g REP. I'm getting really technical now, but anyway, if you're as old as I am and are a software guy, you can use this super powerful but kind of clunky tool to get go through all the discovery and find the words, yeah, words, texts and try to try to get a lot of that. So I did a lot of that to try to find stuff. You know. Mister Kokomo Shaquill Kocomo Shack. Yes, he was really great at doing like media searches for things. He had some skills in that.

You know, it's very interesting you say that because we had six terabytes six terabytes now and I don't have the resources of Thug and Brian Steele. I don't have a whole team of people that can comb through that. What was very helpful for me is being as old as I am. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why, because I'm an old software double god. I'm an electrical engineering and software guy. And back in the seventies and early eighties or eighties, there was this piece of software called Unix, and it has this very complicated tool in it called g REP. I'm getting really technical now, but anyway, if you're as old as I am and are a software guy, you can use this super powerful but kind of clunky tool to get go through all the discovery and find the words, yeah, words, texts and try to try to get a lot of that. So I did a lot of that to try to find stuff. You know. Mister Kokomo Shaquill Kocomo Shack. Yes, he was really great at doing like media searches for things. He had some skills in that.

Which when you say media searches. Yah, google YouTube.

Which when you say media searches. Yah, google YouTube.

Well you know what I tell you? Know this trial stream, right, so every day was on YouTube, yes, and there's a log of that. So when we needed to find hey, I think some witness at this point said this man Shack would be right on that and he'd say it was day one oh one at this time, and here's the clip.

Well you know what I tell you? Know this trial stream, right, so every day was on YouTube, yes, and there's a log of that. So when we needed to find hey, I think some witness at this point said this man Shack would be right on that and he'd say it was day one oh one at this time, and here's the clip.

Oh that is useful.

Oh that is useful.

But yeah, it's a ton of work to get ready for this. And you know who did the most work of any single individual, Max Shart. Max Shart worked his asshole.

But yeah, it's a ton of work to get ready for this. And you know who did the most work of any single individual, Max Shart. Max Shart worked his asshole.

I'm saying, yah, look good in that man.

I'm saying, yah, look good in that man.

Thank you. Well. I was in Max's like slipstream right there behind him. But he was great.

Thank you. Well. I was in Max's like slipstream right there behind him. But he was great.

Yeah, he was. He would always And what I what I like about him too, is that when he's doing the arguments, when he's positioning his arguments, he's all he's never stuttering. I like this. I like when people are smooth like that. It's never like I'm tripping over my words and things. Right. He presented his arguments great every time.

Yeah, he was. He would always And what I what I like about him too, is that when he's doing the arguments, when he's positioning his arguments, he's all he's never stuttering. I like this. I like when people are smooth like that. It's never like I'm tripping over my words and things. Right. He presented his arguments great every time.

That's because he had of any attorney in that room, now, they were we were all prepared. But as far as absolute command of all the facts at his fingertips. Yes, I don't know that anyone had more than that. Bay would be a close second. But Max man, he had it all up here.

That's because he had of any attorney in that room, now, they were we were all prepared. But as far as absolute command of all the facts at his fingertips. Yes, I don't know that anyone had more than that. Bay would be a close second. But Max man, he had it all up here.

Brian resources is Brian had the killery you playing with a dog?

Brian resources is Brian had the killery you playing with a dog?

Yeah, Max did all that pretty much on his own. Maybe some help from shacks.

Yeah, Max did all that pretty much on his own. Maybe some help from shacks.

Right right right. I want to ask about the Let me see, oh it says, okay, let's talk about this. Okay. So one day in court there was an alleged drug transaction. What was going on that day? Do you remember that day in court?

Right right right. I want to ask about the Let me see, oh it says, okay, let's talk about this. Okay. So one day in court there was an alleged drug transaction. What was going on that day? Do you remember that day in court?

You know, it was early on. I think we're maybe maybe we're still in I don't even remember if the trial trial had started, if we were still injury, so I guess the trialo's I don't even remember what was it was before. I think it was early in the morning. I think it was before court and there was an alleged handoff from one defendant to another. I don't know what was up with that. I don't even know if the person receiving it had any idea what was being put into his hand.

You know, it was early on. I think we're maybe maybe we're still in I don't even remember if the trial trial had started, if we were still injury, so I guess the trialo's I don't even remember what was it was before. I think it was early in the morning. I think it was before court and there was an alleged handoff from one defendant to another. I don't know what was up with that. I don't even know if the person receiving it had any idea what was being put into his hand.

Whatever. What happens with stuff like that? Do it just go away? If someone end up charge they rolled it up in the situation, that's going on a lot.

Whatever. What happens with stuff like that? Do it just go away? If someone end up charge they rolled it up in the situation, that's going on a lot.

Of times you can in Fulton County, a lot of times you can end up charged. I don't think I mean, I think it allegedly it was thug that received that, but I don't think he picked up a charge from.

Of times you can in Fulton County, a lot of times you can end up charged. I don't think I mean, I think it allegedly it was thug that received that, but I don't think he picked up a charge from.

That, right, Yeah. I always wonder what they do, like how do they respond to that, or how do they handle something like that, because you could, I don't think you can charge him, But I was just they felt it felt like they were reaching for straws at that point, so you would think they would try to position that and use that some kind of way. Unfortunately or fortunately, they didn't do that.

That, right, Yeah. I always wonder what they do, like how do they respond to that, or how do they handle something like that, because you could, I don't think you can charge him, But I was just they felt it felt like they were reaching for straws at that point, so you would think they would try to position that and use that some kind of way. Unfortunately or fortunately, they didn't do that.

I know they were going after the guys any which way they could exactly, And so I'm if he didn't pick up and I don't think he picked up a charge, which is the right thing to do, but they don't always do the right thing right.

I know they were going after the guys any which way they could exactly, And so I'm if he didn't pick up and I don't think he picked up a charge, which is the right thing to do, but they don't always do the right thing right.

And also, you know, if you ever been in jail or you know around some of those guys who live at rock Star Lifestyle bro their first ninety days, one hundred and twenty days, six months is hard coming down off them drills or trying to like your body is doing a certain kind of fiend for this shit that you will, you know, you'll go through hell. It was a lot of that shit in the trial where they allaized it. You know, hey, this person's trying to do that. Did they ever come at you with that?

And also, you know, if you ever been in jail or you know around some of those guys who live at rock Star Lifestyle bro their first ninety days, one hundred and twenty days, six months is hard coming down off them drills or trying to like your body is doing a certain kind of fiend for this shit that you will, you know, you'll go through hell. It was a lot of that shit in the trial where they allaized it. You know, hey, this person's trying to do that. Did they ever come at you with that?

The only thing they came at me with was one time, I guess a girl was getting some clothes to Diamante and it had to come through the lawyer, and she like gave the clothes to Tasha, Miss Tasha, Diamante's mom. Miss Tasha gave the clothes to me. I gave the clothes, I guess to a deputy And it turned out allegedly there was like contraband, and they made a huge deal of a contraband contraband. It makes it sound like a knife for a gun slipped in the corporate you know what. The contraband was rolling papers and tobacco. Wow, But they don't say that. They say contraband like like these are like al Capone in there, you know what I mean?

The only thing they came at me with was one time, I guess a girl was getting some clothes to Diamante and it had to come through the lawyer, and she like gave the clothes to Tasha, Miss Tasha, Diamante's mom. Miss Tasha gave the clothes to me. I gave the clothes, I guess to a deputy And it turned out allegedly there was like contraband, and they made a huge deal of a contraband contraband. It makes it sound like a knife for a gun slipped in the corporate you know what. The contraband was rolling papers and tobacco. Wow, But they don't say that. They say contraband like like these are like al Capone in there, you know what I mean?

Crazy?

Crazy?

So, I mean it's not supposed to be in there. I didn't know anything about it. Miss Tasha didn't know anything about it. It ended up going going away. I think Caleb Bump has helped Miss Tasha out with that, but they kind of came out. They came at the attorney's lots. I mean, they came at one attorney for having his like ADHD pills that weren't in the prescription bottle.

So, I mean it's not supposed to be in there. I didn't know anything about it. Miss Tasha didn't know anything about it. It ended up going going away. I think Caleb Bump has helped Miss Tasha out with that, but they kind of came out. They came at the attorney's lots. I mean, they came at one attorney for having his like ADHD pills that weren't in the prescription bottle.

That's what I was asking, Like say that what you say? Whatever, bro, So that's what I was asking. I will wonder would they be like over zealous? What far?

That's what I was asking, Like say that what you say? Whatever, bro, So that's what I was asking. I will wonder would they be like over zealous? What far?

You know, there was kind of at the beginning of this trial. Okay, we had the Scorpions in the room with us as I don't know what you want to call them guards or courtroom security. Those guys, you know, they're all swatted up and all their black outfits, and I mean they're just like a modern day Scorpions are just like a modern day version of Red Doll if you remember that from Atlanta back in the day. And these Scorpions were nothing but trouble, nothing but trouble. And that was for the first few months of the trial. But as soon as those guys went away and we had regular deputies in there, and I know it sounds kind of odd, but we all developed a very good relationship with each other and every day was cool and things settled down. But there was a time at the beginning where we had.

You know, there was kind of at the beginning of this trial. Okay, we had the Scorpions in the room with us as I don't know what you want to call them guards or courtroom security. Those guys, you know, they're all swatted up and all their black outfits, and I mean they're just like a modern day Scorpions are just like a modern day version of Red Doll if you remember that from Atlanta back in the day. And these Scorpions were nothing but trouble, nothing but trouble. And that was for the first few months of the trial. But as soon as those guys went away and we had regular deputies in there, and I know it sounds kind of odd, but we all developed a very good relationship with each other and every day was cool and things settled down. But there was a time at the beginning where we had.

What they thought was going to be war something.

What they thought was going to be war something.

I know what they thought was going to happen. They thought somebody was going to come in there and break them out. I don't know what they're thinking, but it was ridiculous and it gave the public the wrong impression of these guys. So you know what it was about, right, What was it about. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. There was a day they went in there and did some kind of dumb ass raid right into the court room.

I know what they thought was going to happen. They thought somebody was going to come in there and break them out. I don't know what they're thinking, but it was ridiculous and it gave the public the wrong impression of these guys. So you know what it was about, right, What was it about. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. There was a day they went in there and did some kind of dumb ass raid right into the court room.

What.

What.

Yeah, they did something like courts and session. All of a sudden, Judge Glanville calls a recess. He's like, we got to take a recess. And and by the way, that day, tons of media were in the room and they hadn't been there before, right, because it wasn't the beginning of trial. It was a couple of months in right. And sure it's like somebody tipped I know for a fact because I heard it. They tipped off the media. They said, hey, something's going to happen today. They got all the media in there, then they'd do some raid. I don't even remember what they found, you know, but basically they shook us all down. It was crazy and.

Yeah, they did something like courts and session. All of a sudden, Judge Glanville calls a recess. He's like, we got to take a recess. And and by the way, that day, tons of media were in the room and they hadn't been there before, right, because it wasn't the beginning of trial. It was a couple of months in right. And sure it's like somebody tipped I know for a fact because I heard it. They tipped off the media. They said, hey, something's going to happen today. They got all the media in there, then they'd do some raid. I don't even remember what they found, you know, but basically they shook us all down. It was crazy and.

The lawyers and precution.

The lawyers and precution.

They kind of left the lawyers alone, but they were messing with our clients. And again all for the press because this whole thing. You know, if you saw Da Madame Da Fannie Willis's initial press conference, she acted like she rounded up the most dangerous criminals and all of Atlanta. They're responsible for eighty percent of the crime and all that stuff. She started off with that press conference. People ask me, why are you always going on social media talking about the trial, talking about Diamonte. They tried to shut me up if you remember, did they Oh yeah, they found emotion to shut member they did. I fought back.

They kind of left the lawyers alone, but they were messing with our clients. And again all for the press because this whole thing. You know, if you saw Da Madame Da Fannie Willis's initial press conference, she acted like she rounded up the most dangerous criminals and all of Atlanta. They're responsible for eighty percent of the crime and all that stuff. She started off with that press conference. People ask me, why are you always going on social media talking about the trial, talking about Diamonte. They tried to shut me up if you remember, did they Oh yeah, they found emotion to shut member they did. I fought back.

Yeah, so they tried to They tried to put a seat what.

Yeah, so they tried to They tried to put a seat what.

They tried to put a gag order on me, but the judge, Judge Whittaker, wouldn't have in it. But my point is, they do all this, the big press conference, the media, all that stuff, right, they do that show client can't afford to have a press team out there. All he has to speak to the public is me. They're out there trying to destroy his reputation. So you're not going to do that to Diamante. That's not just my client, that's my friend, that's family at this point. Yeah, and and maybe I shouldn't be that close to him, but you can't help it over that length. And I wasn't going to let that happen.

They tried to put a gag order on me, but the judge, Judge Whittaker, wouldn't have in it. But my point is, they do all this, the big press conference, the media, all that stuff, right, they do that show client can't afford to have a press team out there. All he has to speak to the public is me. They're out there trying to destroy his reputation. So you're not going to do that to Diamante. That's not just my client, that's my friend, that's family at this point. Yeah, and and maybe I shouldn't be that close to him, but you can't help it over that length. And I wasn't going to let that happen.

I just wouldn't let that happen. Now, I think, I think you know, they started it on social media. She brought it to social media, like you say, with a grandiose announcement that I went and got Pablo Escotball King Slim had in the shadow. I remember all of that. Remember what they were saying. That man is hiding in the shadows. He is the puppet master.

I just wouldn't let that happen. Now, I think, I think you know, they started it on social media. She brought it to social media, like you say, with a grandiose announcement that I went and got Pablo Escotball King Slim had in the shadow. I remember all of that. Remember what they were saying. That man is hiding in the shadows. He is the puppet master.

They said he was like the wolf, the leader of a wolf pack.

They said he was like the wolf, the leader of a wolf pack.

So hard co I say, this sounded like the opening of a book.

So hard co I say, this sounded like the opening of a book.

Yeah, they pulled that out of Jungle Book and Rudyard Kipling. I mean, I like Rudgyard Kipling.

Yeah, they pulled that out of Jungle Book and Rudyard Kipling. I mean, I like Rudgyard Kipling.

You go to the best.

You go to the best.

So they pulled you know what they cited, Rudyard Kipling. I sighted Killer Mike, Yes you would.

So they pulled you know what they cited, Rudyard Kipling. I sighted Killer Mike, Yes you would.

We're gonna get to your closing arguments, your opening stuff. Like I say, you, I think you poured from culture and you intertwined it. What I find interesting about Thug is that his fame and his music and shit is you can't separate it almost. I always felt that will be a challenge for Brian Steele because people that see him see the rap of young thug. They don't see Jeffrey with the children, with the You just see what I'm saying.

We're gonna get to your closing arguments, your opening stuff. Like I say, you, I think you poured from culture and you intertwined it. What I find interesting about Thug is that his fame and his music and shit is you can't separate it almost. I always felt that will be a challenge for Brian Steele because people that see him see the rap of young thug. They don't see Jeffrey with the children, with the You just see what I'm saying.

I told Jeffrey. I told young I always call hi, Jeffrey. I told Jeffrey. At the end, I said, you know, this trial has been an awful experience for you, right, I mean, you've been locked up in Cobbs. It's not good away from your family. I said, but what if there's any good thing about this trial? It brought to light all the good that you do in that community that you kind of keep on the lowdown. You don't let everybody know about all the stuff you're doing. And it's awful that you've been through this, but people can see you reach down and reached into Cleveland Avenue and you tried to pull people up. You didn't cut people off. You're like, look, stop doing the crap you're doing. Come with me. I'll give you some work on the road. You do this legit stuff. And some of them took it, like like Diamante, you know, yat Gotti he took it, made the name, worked his ass off to get a name for himself. And there's others that came up there. You heard some testimony. He gave me a chance. I screwed up on the road. He sent me home. But he didn't forget the people. And not forgetting the people that I don't think he'd be in this boat for that.

I told Jeffrey. I told young I always call hi, Jeffrey. I told Jeffrey. At the end, I said, you know, this trial has been an awful experience for you, right, I mean, you've been locked up in Cobbs. It's not good away from your family. I said, but what if there's any good thing about this trial? It brought to light all the good that you do in that community that you kind of keep on the lowdown. You don't let everybody know about all the stuff you're doing. And it's awful that you've been through this, but people can see you reach down and reached into Cleveland Avenue and you tried to pull people up. You didn't cut people off. You're like, look, stop doing the crap you're doing. Come with me. I'll give you some work on the road. You do this legit stuff. And some of them took it, like like Diamante, you know, yat Gotti he took it, made the name, worked his ass off to get a name for himself. And there's others that came up there. You heard some testimony. He gave me a chance. I screwed up on the road. He sent me home. But he didn't forget the people. And not forgetting the people that I don't think he'd be in this boat for that.

It cost to custom. That's and that's the thing like when they tell you everybody can't go. And I'm sure now he looks at it, because you know, I always felt like, what does he feel like? As they walk it's home boy at this up next home. But they walking these dudes down, putting them on the stand. So my question to you is little Woody the inconsistencies of Little Woody. But I want to I want to bag back some on day one when when you're in a scenario where you know the state is bringing in the lead witness and we know it's Kenneth Copeland, it's little Woody, what is the vibe over there in y'all corner because we don't know we talking about before, we know his approach, what he's gonna say, how he's gonna do this, What is the vibe in that corner over.

It cost to custom. That's and that's the thing like when they tell you everybody can't go. And I'm sure now he looks at it, because you know, I always felt like, what does he feel like? As they walk it's home boy at this up next home. But they walking these dudes down, putting them on the stand. So my question to you is little Woody the inconsistencies of Little Woody. But I want to I want to bag back some on day one when when you're in a scenario where you know the state is bringing in the lead witness and we know it's Kenneth Copeland, it's little Woody, what is the vibe over there in y'all corner because we don't know we talking about before, we know his approach, what he's gonna say, how he's gonna do this, What is the vibe in that corner over.

I'll tell you I had been preparing. You asked about preparation. Oh my gosh, I'd been preparing for Little Wooty since day one, Max Brian, We're all ready for Little Woody. Oh man? Did I have a cross examination written out for Little Wooty? So? I mean I was ready for him. I didn't know what he'd be like. Here's what I knew about Little Woody. I knew what I saw in those police interrogations. I knew what Diamante told me. So I didn't know what I was going to get on the stand of Little Woody. I didn't know it. But I can tell you this, and people could probably understand. I had to throw that whole cross examination out because his testimony on the stand, that truthful testimony, that was that was great.