Boomman steps into Loon’s hot seat for a tense Part 1—and nothing is off limits. Scammer claims, Ray Daniels, Money Mu’s contract, Foogiano in prison, Gucci Mane and Pooh Shiesty all collide. Authentic Empire CEO Boomman sits across from Loon for one of the most confrontational conversations ever released on It’s Up There. After weeks of public scrutiny surrounding his business practices, artist relationships and the accusations attached to the Authentic Empire name, Boomman finally gets the opportunity to explain his side—but Loon refuses to let him hide behind broad answers. Boomman responds to Ray Daniels framing him as someone who sells dreams to independent artists and claims Ray has made hundreds of thousands of dollars from discussing his name. Loon then presses Boomman on the difference between ownership and control, whether his artist agreements were fair, and why so many former artists have publicly expressed frustration. The conversation gets even more intense when they address: Money Mu’s relationship with Authentic Empire Who controls the “Hittin” record Boomman’s alleged $500,000 investment The $80,000 Lil Durk feature Gross-receipt deals and artist recoupment Paid music reviews, consultations and showcases Whether IndieFest was opportunity or an expensive dream Gucci Mane’s relationship with Pooh Shiesty Why artists become disloyal after achieving success Whether Boomman supported Foogiano during his incarceration The possibility of Foogiano eventually wanting out of their business relationship Boomman argues that he invested real money, created opportunities artists could not create for themselves and operated according to the agreements everyone signed. Loon challenges whether “industry standard” automatically means fair—and whether calling something business can erase the emotional expectations created when artists are told they are family. This is only Part 1. Part 2 begins with Euro Gotit and goes even deeper into the accusations surrounding Authentic Empire. Subscribe to It’s Up There and turn on notifications so you do not miss Part 2.

 00:00 Boomman Enters Loon’s Hot Seat 03:19 Why Boomman Almost Didn’t Show Up 04:53 Boomman Responds to the Public Scrutiny 06:26 “Ray Made Hundreds of Thousands Off My Name” 07:17 Is Boomman a Scammer or Just Doing Business? 09:34 Money Mu: Ownership vs Control 11:15 Boomman Explains Gross-Receipt Deals 14:34 The $500,000 Money Mu Investment 17:34 Did Money Mu Already Have Motion? 20:45 The $80,000 Lil Durk Feature Dispute 24:55 Who Really Made “Hittin” Successful? 28:22 “I Was Doing Business With My Heart” 34:52 Should Boomman Give Artists Their Rights Back? 40:55 Why Boomman Moved Around With Security 42:36 Boomman Defends Gucci Mane Against Pooh Shiesty 46:11 What Is the Purpose of Signing to a Label? 52:18 Pooh Shiesty, Prison and Big Scarr’s Death 58:21 Boomman Defends Authentic Empire’s Artist Platform 1:02:03 IndieFest vs Rolling Loud 1:06:05 The Prize Was Actually an Advance 1:11:17 Did Boomman Sell Independent Artists a Dream? 1:15:16 Will Foogiano Treat Boomman Like Pooh Did Gucci? 1:18:03 Why Boomman Charges Artists for Meetings 1:20:51 Did Boomman Support Foogiano While He Was Locked Up? 1:23:00 End

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Boomman steps into Loon&rsquo;s hot seat for a tense Part 1&mdash;and nothing is off limits. Scammer claims, Ray Daniels, Money Mu&rsquo;s contract, Foogiano in prison, Gucci Mane and Pooh Shiesty all collide. Authentic Empire CEO Boomman sits across from Loon for one of the most confrontational conversations ever released on It&rsquo;s Up There. After weeks of public scrutiny surrounding his business practices, artist relationships and the accusations attached to the Authentic Empire name, Boomman finally gets the opportunity to explain his side&mdash;but Loon refuses to let him hide behind broad answers. Boomman responds to Ray Daniels framing him as someone who sells dreams to independent artists and claims Ray has made hundreds of thousands of dollars from discussing his name. Loon then presses Boomman on the difference between ownership and control, whether his artist agreements were fair, and why so many former artists have publicly expressed frustration. The conversation gets even more intense when they address: Money Mu&rsquo;s relationship with Authentic Empire Who controls the &ldquo;Hittin&rdquo; record Boomman&rsquo;s alleged $500,000 investment The $80,000 Lil Durk feature Gross-receipt deals and artist recoupment Paid music reviews, consultations and showcases Whether IndieFest was opportunity or an expensive dream Gucci Mane&rsquo;s relationship with Pooh Shiesty Why artists become disloyal after achieving success Whether Boomman supported Foogiano during his incarceration The possibility of Foogiano eventually wanting out of their business relationship Boomman argues that he invested real money, created opportunities artists could not create for themselves and operated according to the agreements everyone signed. Loon challenges whether &ldquo;industry standard&rdquo; automatically means fair&mdash;and whether calling something business can erase the emotional expectations created when artists are told they are family. This is only Part 1. Part 2 begins with Euro Gotit and goes even deeper into the accusations surrounding Authentic Empire. Subscribe to It&rsquo;s Up There and turn on notifications so you do not miss Part 2.
&nbsp;00:00 Boomman Enters Loon&rsquo;s Hot Seat 03:19 Why Boomman Almost Didn&rsquo;t Show Up 04:53 Boomman Responds to the Public Scrutiny 06:26 &ldquo;Ray Made Hundreds of Thousands Off My Name&rdquo; 07:17 Is Boomman a Scammer or Just Doing Business? 09:34 Money Mu: Ownership vs Control 11:15 Boomman Explains Gross-Receipt Deals 14:34 The $500,000 Money Mu Investment 17:34 Did Money Mu Already Have Motion? 20:45 The $80,000 Lil Durk Feature Dispute 24:55 Who Really Made &ldquo;Hittin&rdquo; Successful? 28:22 &ldquo;I Was Doing Business With My Heart&rdquo; 34:52 Should Boomman Give Artists Their Rights Back? 40:55 Why Boomman Moved Around With Security 42:36 Boomman Defends Gucci Mane Against Pooh Shiesty 46:11 What Is the Purpose of Signing to a Label? 52:18 Pooh Shiesty, Prison and Big Scarr&rsquo;s Death 58:21 Boomman Defends Authentic Empire&rsquo;s Artist Platform 1:02:03 IndieFest vs Rolling Loud 1:06:05 The Prize Was Actually an Advance 1:11:17 Did Boomman Sell Independent Artists a Dream? 1:15:16 Will Foogiano Treat Boomman Like Pooh Did Gucci? 1:18:03 Why Boomman Charges Artists for Meetings 1:20:51 Did Boomman Support Foogiano While He Was Locked Up? 1:23:00 End
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Boomman Says "Pooh Shiesty USED Gucci Mane, Foogiano Abandonment, Ray Daniels & SCAMS - Full EP

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