Our fears for the future of this planet are part of an interwoven story of grief and hope. While it’s easy to feel overwhelmed and defeated, author Stephanie Foo (What My Bones Know) has found one small consistent act that grounds her, and gives her a hope for the world: she volunteers with the urban parks system. If your climate anxiety has felt too big to tackle, don’t miss this short bonus episode - you might just find a doorway to your own place in the woods. 





In this episode we cover: 
The difference between “good immigrant” plants and “bad immigrant” plants, and how that relates to the climate emergency
How being a park steward has given Stephanie hope for the future AND a budding community (ok, pun intended)
What trees teach us about weathering trauma





Notable quotes: 

“My action is relatively small, but I think it's really important. I kill plants.” - Stephanie Foo



About our guest: 



Stephanie Foo is a C-PTSD survivor, writer, and radio producer, most recently for This American Life. Her work has aired on Snap Judgment, Reply All, 99% Invisible, and Radiolab. She lives in New York City with her husband, where she is a Parks Department Super Steward.



Read Stephanie’s book, What My Bones Know: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma

Follow her on Instagram @foofoofoo and Twitter @imontheradio

Find a great conversation about What My Bones Know on Maria Shriver’s Sunday Paper at this link 






Additional resources



It’s OK That You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn’t Understand is a book for grieving people, those who love them, and all those seeking to love themselves—and each other—better. (available in paperback, e-book, & audiobook)



For a collection of tools and coping skills related to grief and trauma, check out my illustrated guided journal, How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed. (available in paperback and for Kindle)



For a deep dive into the environmental activism of the 90s and early 2000s, check out the work of Joanna Macy. A lot of our current understanding of the mental health of activists comes from Macy’s work. 



Get in touch:



Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right. 



Share the show on your social networks! Use #HereAfterPod so we can find you. 

Follow the show on TikTok @hereafterpod





Have a question, comment, or a topic you’d like us to cover? call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co



For more information, including clinical training and resources, visit us at www.Megandevine.co



For grief support & education, follow us at @refugeingrief on IG, FB, TW, & TT



Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s Okay That You're Not Okay and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed

Our fears for the future of this planet are part of an interwoven story of grief and hope. While it’s easy to feel overwhelmed and defeated, author Stephanie Foo (What My Bones Know) has found one small consistent act that grounds her, and gives her a hope for the world: she volunteers with the urban parks system. If your climate anxiety has felt too big to tackle, don’t miss this short bonus episode - you might just find a doorway to your own place in the woods. 
 
In this episode we cover: 
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">The difference between “good immigrant” plants and “bad immigrant” plants, and how that relates to the climate emergency</li>
<li aria-level="1">How being a park steward has given Stephanie hope for the future AND a budding community (ok, pun intended)</li>
<li aria-level="1">What trees teach us about weathering trauma</li>
</ul>
 
Notable quotes: 
“My action is relatively small, but I think it's really important. I kill plants.” - Stephanie Foo
 
About our guest: 
 
Stephanie Foo is a C-PTSD survivor, writer, and radio producer, most recently for This American Life. Her work has aired on Snap Judgment, Reply All, 99% Invisible, and Radiolab. She lives in New York City with her husband, where she is a <a href="https://www.curbed.com/2021/08/climate-anxiety-parks-department-super-steward.html">Parks Department Super Steward</a>.
 
Read Stephanie’s book, <a href="https://www.stephaniefoo.me/">What My Bones Know: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma</a>
Follow her on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/foofoofoo/">@foofoofoo</a> and Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/imontheradio">@imontheradio</a> 
Find a great conversation about What My Bones Know on Maria Shriver’s Sunday Paper <a href="https://www.mariashriversundaypaper.com/after-suffering-from-severe-abuse-journalist-stephanie-foo-is-building-awareness-around-complex-ptsd/">at this link </a>
 
Additional resources
 
<a href="https://refugeingrief.com/book/">It’s OK That You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn’t Understand</a> is a book for grieving people, those who love them, and all those seeking to love themselves—and each other—better. (available in paperback, e-book, &amp; audiobook)
 
For a collection of tools and coping skills related to grief and trauma, check out my illustrated guided journal, <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/grief-journal/">How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed</a>. (available in paperback and for Kindle)
 
For a deep dive into the environmental activism of the 90s and early 2000s, check out the work of <a href="https://www.joannamacy.net/">Joanna Macy</a>. A lot of our current understanding of the mental health of activists comes from Macy’s work. 
 
Get in touch:
 
Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right. 
 
Share the show on your social networks! Use #HereAfterPod so we can find you. 
Follow the show on TikTok <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hereafterpod">@hereafterpod</a>
 
Have a question, comment, or a topic you’d like us to cover? call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co
 
For more information, including clinical training and resources, visit us at <a href="http://www.megandevine.co/">www.Megandevine.co</a>
 
For grief support &amp; education, follow us at @refugeingrief on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/refugeingrief/">IG</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/refugeingrief">FB</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/refugeingrief">TW</a>, &amp; <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@refugeingrief">TT</a>
 
Check out Megan’s best-selling books - <a href="http://refugeingrief.com/book">It’s Okay That You're Not Okay and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed</a>

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. 

With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the conversations in It’s OK that You’re Not OK are funny, complex, emotional, and hopeful - maybe not your typical dinner party topics, but none of us are entirely OK, and it’s time we start talking about that.

New episodes each and every Monday, from the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK, and iHeartMedia. Find Megan online at @refugeingrief & follow the show @ItsOKPod

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. 
With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the conversations in It’s OK that You’re Not OK are funny, complex, emotional, and hopeful - maybe not your typical dinner party topics, but none of us are entirely OK, and it’s time we start talking about that.
New episodes each and every Monday, from the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK, and iHeartMedia. Find Megan online at @refugeingrief &amp; follow the show @ItsOKPod

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine

Stephanie Foo’s Antidote to Climate Anxiety: Bonus Episode

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