If you’ve been worried about bad things happening to the people you love, is it possible that an actual bad thing might bring temporary relief? Obviously, the answer is “no not really,” but in this conversation with author Mary Laura Philpott, we explore the weird complexity of the anxious (and loving) mind, and the hoops we jump through to ensure our own survival. 

Mary Laura’s latest book, Bomb Shelter, traces her son’s epilepsy - from being woken up early one morning to the sounds of what would turn out to be her son’s first seizure - out into the anxiety many of us hold for those we love, from the people in our care to the wider world, to pretty much everything ever. As always, we close with our guest’s current working version of hope. Don’t miss it. 



Announcement: want to become a grief-informed therapist? Registration is open now for Megan Devine’s 6 month grief care professional program. Details at this link. 



In this episode we cover: 
Tools for writing about difficult things, including distance, numbness, and turning yourself into a somewhat fictional character
Why airports should have crying lounges
The anxiety & relative effectiveness of protecting everyone you love from harm
Mary Laura’s version of hope, applicable even while the world melts and her kids leave home





About our guest:

Mary Laura Philpott, nationally bestselling author of I Miss You When I Blink and Bomb Shelter: Love, Time, and Other Explosives, writes about the overlap of the absurd and the profound in everyday life. Her writing has been featured by The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Atlantic, among many other publications. Find her books (print and audio) wherever you find books. 



Find her at  https://marylauraphilpott.com, on TW @MaryLauraPh, and on IG @MaryLauraPhilpott



Additional resources: 

Announcement: want to become a grief-informed therapist? Registration is open now for Megan Devine’s 6 month grief care professional program. Details at this link. 



After a life-altering loss, feeling anxious about the possibility of more loss is #PerfectlyNormalGrief.



Want to start writing the story of your life (and your grief)? Join the next open session of the Writing Your Grief community. 



Megan’s first book, It’s OK that You’re Not OK, has an entire section devoted to discussing anxiety, including tools to manage your feelings when the worst has already happened. 





Get in touch:

Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right. 



Have a question, comment, or a topic you’d like us to cover? call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co



For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at www.Megandevine.co



For grief support & education, follow us at @refugeingrief on IG, FB, TW, and @hereafterpod on TT



Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s Okay That You're Not Okay and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed

If you’ve been worried about bad things happening to the people you love, is it possible that an actual bad thing might bring temporary relief? Obviously, the answer is “no not really,” but in this conversation with author Mary Laura Philpott, we explore the weird complexity of the anxious (and loving) mind, and the hoops we jump through to ensure our own survival. Mary Laura’s latest book, Bomb Shelter, traces her son’s epilepsy - from being woken up early one morning to the sounds of what would turn out to be her son’s first seizure - out into the anxiety many of us hold for those we love, from the people in our care to the wider world, to pretty much everything ever. As always, we close with our guest’s current working version of hope. Don’t miss it. 
 
Announcement: want to become a grief-informed therapist? Registration is open now for Megan Devine’s 6 month grief care professional program. <a href="https://catalog.pesi.com/sales/bh_c_001627_megandevinegriefcarecert_megandevine-478674">Details at this link. </a>
 
In this episode we cover: 
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Tools for writing about difficult things, including distance, numbness, and turning yourself into a somewhat fictional character</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why airports should have crying lounges</li>
<li aria-level="1">The anxiety &amp; relative effectiveness of protecting everyone you love from harm</li>
<li aria-level="1">Mary Laura’s version of hope, applicable even while the world melts and her kids leave home</li>
</ul>
 
About our guest:
Mary Laura Philpott, nationally bestselling author of I Miss You When I Blink and Bomb Shelter: Love, Time, and Other Explosives, writes about the overlap of the absurd and the profound in everyday life. Her writing has been featured by The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Atlantic, among many other publications. Find her books (print and audio) wherever you find books. 
 
Find her at  <a href="https://marylauraphilpott.com/">https://marylauraphilpott.com</a>, on TW @<a href="https://twitter.com/MaryLauraPh">MaryLauraPh</a>, and on IG <a href="https://www.instagram.com/marylauraphilpott/">@MaryLauraPhilpott</a>
 
Additional resources: 
Announcement: want to become a grief-informed therapist? Registration is open now for Megan Devine’s 6 month grief care professional program. <a href="https://catalog.pesi.com/sales/bh_c_001627_megandevinegriefcarecert_megandevine-478674">Details at this link. </a>
 
After a life-altering loss, feeling anxious about the possibility of more loss is <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CgXGCoWq0X4/">#PerfectlyNormalGrief</a>.
 
Want to start writing the story of your life (and your grief)? <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/wyg/">Join the next open session of the Writing Your Grief community</a>. 
 
Megan’s first book, <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/book/">It’s OK that You’re Not OK</a>, has an entire section devoted to discussing anxiety, including tools to manage your feelings when the worst has already happened. 
 
Get in touch:
Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right. 
 
Have a question, comment, or a topic you’d like us to cover? call us at (323) 643-3768 or visit megandevine.co
 
For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at www.Megandevine.co
 
For grief support &amp; education, follow us at @refugeingrief on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/refugeingrief/">IG</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/refugeingrief">FB</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/refugeingrief">TW</a>, and @hereafterpod on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@refugeingrief">TT</a>
 
Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s Okay That You're Not Okay and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. 

With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the conversations in It’s OK that You’re Not OK are funny, complex, emotional, and hopeful - maybe not your typical dinner party topics, but none of us are entirely OK, and it’s time we start talking about that.

New episodes each and every Monday, from the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK, and iHeartMedia. Find Megan online at @refugeingrief & follow the show @ItsOKPod

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. 
With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the conversations in It’s OK that You’re Not OK are funny, complex, emotional, and hopeful - maybe not your typical dinner party topics, but none of us are entirely OK, and it’s time we start talking about that.
New episodes each and every Monday, from the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK, and iHeartMedia. Find Megan online at @refugeingrief &amp; follow the show @ItsOKPod

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine

You Can’t Keep Everybody Safe with Author Mary Laura Philpott

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