We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon.



Everybody knows the stages of grief. Even if you didn’t go to grad school, I bet you can rattle them off. Thing is - those stages don’t help anyone: not the pros trying to support patients or clients, not the person trying to survive an impossible situation. Tune in for the inside scoop on the stages of grief and what we should be doing instead, with a special shout-out to the tv shows getting grief right.  



In this episode we cover:


where the stages of grief came from, and why their creator was Less Than Pleased with what happened next
whether an “innocent” mention of the stages of grief really matters in a movie or tv show (shout out to netflix: HMU!) 
what to do if your boss asks you to support your co-workers through a death in the company
and much more, because I have a lot to say on these stages, apparently. 





Questions to Carry with you:


rooting out the ways the stages of grief live in your head (it’s not as uncomfortable as it sounds!) 






Extra resources: I’ve written a lot about the stages of grief. Check out this article, this instagram post, and for more of my feelings about The Starling, click here. Be sure to pick up It’s OK that You’re Not OK wherever you get your books, too - there’s a lot about the stages in there (including the reasons why graduate programs still teach this outdated model). 



For more help navigating grief in the workplace, check out Alica Forneret, Lantern, and Grief Coach. I provide corporate consulting on grief related comms, too. Get in touch via megandevine.co  Disclosure: these aren’t paid placements - I’ve worked with all these folks and I super dig them. Go check them (and me!) out. 



Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right. 



To submit your questions visit megandevine.co



For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at www.megandevine.co



For grief support & education, follow us at @refugeingrief on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok



Want to talk with Megan directly? Join our patreon community for live monthly Q&A sessions. All the info at this link. 



Check out Megan’s best-selling books -It’s OK That You’re Not OK and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed.

We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon.
 
Everybody knows the stages of grief. Even if you didn’t go to grad school, I bet you can rattle them off. Thing is - those stages don’t help anyone: not the pros trying to support patients or clients, not the person trying to survive an impossible situation. Tune in for the inside scoop on the stages of grief and what we should be doing instead, with a special shout-out to the tv shows getting grief right.  
 
In this episode we cover:
 
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">where the stages of grief came from, and why their creator was Less Than Pleased with what happened next</li>
<li aria-level="1">whether an “innocent” mention of the stages of grief really matters in a movie or tv show (shout out to netflix: HMU!) </li>
<li aria-level="1">what to do if your boss asks you to support your co-workers through a death in the company</li>
<li aria-level="1">and much more, because I have a lot to say on these stages, apparently. </li>
</ul>
 
Questions to Carry with you:
 
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">rooting out the ways the stages of grief live in your head (it’s not as uncomfortable as it sounds!) </li>
</ul>
 
Extra resources: I’ve written a lot about the stages of grief. Check out this <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/megan-devine/stages-of-grief_b_4414077.html">article</a>, this <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CXzDgECP5MN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link">instagram post</a>, and for more of my feelings about The Starling, <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/2021/08/25/we-need-to-talk-about-the-starling-with-melissa-mccarthy-on-netflix/">click here</a>. Be sure to pick up <a href="http://refugeingrief.com/book">It’s OK that You’re Not OK </a>wherever you get your books, too - there’s a lot about the stages in there (including the reasons why graduate programs still teach this outdated model). 
 
For more help navigating grief in the workplace, check out <a href="https://alicaforneret.com/">Alica Forneret</a>, <a href="https://www.lantern.co/">Lantern</a>, and <a href="https://grief.coach/">Grief Coach</a>. I provide corporate consulting on grief related comms, too. Get in touch via <a href="http://megandevine.co/">megandevine.co </a> Disclosure: these aren’t paid placements - I’ve worked with all these folks and I super dig them. Go check them (and me!) out. 
 
Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right. 
 
To submit your questions visit megandevine.co
 
For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at <a href="http://www.megandevine.co/">www.megandevine.co</a>
 
For grief support &amp; education, follow us at @refugeingrief on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/refugeingrief/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/refugeingrief/">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/refugeingrief">Twitter,</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@refugeingrief">TikTok</a>
 
Want to talk with Megan directly? Join our patreon community for live monthly Q&amp;A sessions. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/megandevine">All the info at this link. </a>
 
Check out Megan’s best-selling books - <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/book/">It’s OK That You’re Not OK</a> and <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/grief-journal/">How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed</a>.

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. 

With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the conversations in It’s OK that You’re Not OK are funny, complex, emotional, and hopeful - maybe not your typical dinner party topics, but none of us are entirely OK, and it’s time we start talking about that.

New episodes each and every Monday, from the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK, and iHeartMedia. Find Megan online at @refugeingrief & follow the show @ItsOKPod

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. 
With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the conversations in It’s OK that You’re Not OK are funny, complex, emotional, and hopeful - maybe not your typical dinner party topics, but none of us are entirely OK, and it’s time we start talking about that.
New episodes each and every Monday, from the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK, and iHeartMedia. Find Megan online at @refugeingrief &amp; follow the show @ItsOKPod

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine

Is It Time to Retire the Stages of Grief? (Spoiler: yes)

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