We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon.



PROLONGED GRIEF DISORDER! It’s everywhere - social media, The New York Times, The Washington Post… it’s the hot new medical condition everyone’s talking about. But why is everyone so mad about it? 



This week on the show, an overview of this hotly contested “new” human disorder, and what it means for the average person, for healthcare providers, and honestly - for the whole world. This is one medical diagnosis that affects everyone. 



Want your questions answered on the show? Submit your questions at megandevine.co



In this episode we cover: 
Why anyone should care what the APA thinks about grief
The actual diagnostic criteria for prolonged grief disorder (translated from psych-jargon into the way real people speak)
Access to care + funding for research: two of the main reasons people think this diagnosis could be helpful (and why it isn’t) 
The real world impact of the DSM: doubling down on shame and misunderstanding
Why launching new rules about how long it’s ok to grieve is more than a bit problematic while we’re still in the middle of a mass death and mass disabling event (aka the pandemic)
One surprise reason this diagnosis *could* be seen as a good thing






Click here for the episode webpage





Notable quotes: 

“Grief makes you less productive, and what we value above all else is productivity.” - Megan Devine








Questions to Carry with you: 

Read up on the unfolding public conversation about prolonged grief disorder - how do *you* feel about it? Let us know! Visit megandevine.co





Additional resources

For an interview with both Megan and the author of the NYT article, Ellen Barry, on WGBH TV Boston, click here. 



To read Megan’s more detailed response to the NYT article, including tweet-by-tweet takedowns of most of the major “pro disorder” points, check out the original Twitter thread, and the extended thread. Versions of these threads are also on the blog. 



Want to read even more about our culture’s deep avoidance of human emotion, and all the ways that messes with day to day life? Maybe more important, want to know what’s actually normal inside grief? Check out Megan’s best-selling book, It’s OK that You’re Not OK, and follow @refugeingrief on IG/FB/TW 

We recommend you check out the Perfectly Normal campaign, serving up just the validation you need when you’re feeling like the only person in the world doing that “weird” thing you do. 



Therapist, clinician, or other healthcare provider? Be sure to check out upcoming trainings that address PGD and re-humanizing grief. Follow Megan Devine on LinkedIn, too. 





Other articles on prolonged grief disorder include Medicalizing Grief May Threaten Our Ability to Mourn





Get in touch:

Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right. 



To submit your questions visit megandevine.co



For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at www.Megandevine.co



For grief support & education, follow us at @refugeingrief on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok



Check out Megan’s best-selling books -It’s OK That You’re Not OK and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed.



Want to talk with Megan directly? Join our patreon community for live monthly Q&A sessions. All the info at this link.

We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon.
 
PROLONGED GRIEF DISORDER! It’s everywhere - social media, The New York Times, The Washington Post… it’s the hot new medical condition everyone’s talking about. But why is everyone so mad about it? 
 
This week on the show, an overview of this hotly contested “new” human disorder, and what it means for the average person, for healthcare providers, and honestly - for the whole world. This is one medical diagnosis that affects everyone. 
 
Want your questions answered on the show? Submit your questions at megandevine.co
 
In this episode we cover: 
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Why anyone should care what the APA thinks about grief</li>
<li aria-level="1">The actual diagnostic criteria for prolonged grief disorder (translated from psych-jargon into the way real people speak)</li>
<li aria-level="1">Access to care + funding for research: two of the main reasons people think this diagnosis could be helpful (and why it isn’t) </li>
<li aria-level="1">The real world impact of the DSM: doubling down on shame and misunderstanding</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why launching new rules about how long it’s ok to grieve is more than a bit problematic while we’re still in the middle of a mass death and mass disabling event (aka the pandemic)</li>
<li aria-level="1">One surprise reason this diagnosis *could* be seen as a good thing</li>
</ul>
 
Click here for the episode <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/?s=%23hereafterpod">webpage</a>
 
Notable quotes: 
“Grief makes you less productive, and what we value above all else is productivity.” - Megan Devine
 
 
Questions to Carry with you: 
Read up on the unfolding public conversation about prolonged grief disorder - how do *you* feel about it? Let us know! Visit megandevine.co
 
Additional resources
For an interview with both Megan and the author of the NYT article, Ellen Barry, on WGBH TV Boston, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcAtUlWuRa0">click here</a>. 
 
To read Megan’s more detailed response to the NYT article, including tweet-by-tweet takedowns of most of the major “pro disorder” points, check out the <a href="https://twitter.com/refugeingrief/status/1504905401812217858">original Twitter thread</a>, and the <a href="https://twitter.com/refugeingrief/status/1505569404343390212">extended thread</a>. Versions of these threads are also <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/2022/03/20/there-is-no-such-thing-as-prolonged-grief-disorder/">on the blog</a>. 
 
Want to read even more about our culture’s deep avoidance of human emotion, and all the ways that messes with day to day life? Maybe more important, want to know what’s actually normal inside grief? Check out Megan’s best-selling book, It’s OK that You’re Not OK, and follow @refugeingrief on IG/FB/TW 
We recommend you check out the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/perfectlynormalgrief/">Perfectly Normal campaign</a>, serving up just the validation you need when you’re feeling like the only person in the world doing that “weird” thing you do. 
 
Therapist, clinician, or other healthcare provider? Be sure to check out <a href="http://megandevine.co/">upcoming trainings</a> that address PGD and re-humanizing grief. Follow <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/megan-devine-719344141/">Megan Devine</a> on LinkedIn, too. 
 
Other articles on prolonged grief disorder include <a href="https://www.madinamerica.com/2021/12/medicalizing-grief-may-threaten-ability-mourn/?fbclid=IwAR1Yhp5eEIBSVhvv7JS_C2vVfGyV7uSt5E-blPQwmTTUv7khegZ3DuJTDRA">Medicalizing Grief May Threaten Our Ability to Mourn</a>
 
Get in touch:
Thanks for listening to this week’s episode of Here After with Megan Devine. Tune in, subscribe, leave a review, send in your questions, and share the show with everyone you know. Together, we can make things better, even when they can’t be made right. 
 
To submit your questions visit megandevine.co
 
For more information, including clinical training and consulting, visit us at <a href="http://www.megandevine.co/">www.Megandevine.co</a>
 
For grief support &amp; education, follow us at @refugeingrief on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/refugeingrief/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/refugeingrief/">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/refugeingrief">Twitter,</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@refugeingrief">TikTok</a>
 
Check out Megan’s best-selling books - <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/book/">It’s OK That You’re Not OK</a> and <a href="https://refugeingrief.com/grief-journal/">How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed</a>.
 
Want to talk with Megan directly? Join our patreon community for live monthly Q&amp;A sessions. <a href="https://www.patreon.com/megandevine">All the info at this link.</a>

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. 

With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the conversations in It’s OK that You’re Not OK are funny, complex, emotional, and hopeful - maybe not your typical dinner party topics, but none of us are entirely OK, and it’s time we start talking about that.

New episodes each and every Monday, from the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK, and iHeartMedia. Find Megan online at @refugeingrief & follow the show @ItsOKPod

Life is full of difficult things, from tiny everyday disappointments to life-altering events. Everyone’s at least a little bit Not OK, something grief expert and psychotherapist Megan Devine knows from the inside out. In wide ranging, insightful, deep conversations, Megan talks with people about their often invisible losses - and what they’ve learned about being seen and supported in difficult times. 
With guests pulled from the front lines of entertainment, medicine, education, and activism, the conversations in It’s OK that You’re Not OK are funny, complex, emotional, and hopeful - maybe not your typical dinner party topics, but none of us are entirely OK, and it’s time we start talking about that.
New episodes each and every Monday, from the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK, and iHeartMedia. Find Megan online at @refugeingrief &amp; follow the show @ItsOKPod

It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine

What’s the Deal with Prolonged Grief Disorder (and why should you care)?

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