Mia talks with David Forbes, editor and journalist with the Trans News Network, about her work covering the Catholic Church’s draconian trans healthcare ban and how Catholic hospitals spread across the healthcare system.

Cool Zone is nominated for 3 Webby Awards! Submit your votes by April 16th or we'll hunt down your family.  

Behind the Bastards - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation 

It Could Happen Here - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics 

Migrating to America - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary  

Sources:

https://transnews.network/p/u-s-catholic-bishops-launch-attack-on-trans-healthcare-it-s-time-to-fight-back

https://transnews.network/p/it-s-a-nightmare-the-human-toll-of-the-catholic-church-s-trans-healthcare-ban

Mia talks with David Forbes, editor and journalist with the Trans News Network, about her work covering the Catholic Church&rsquo;s draconian trans healthcare ban and how Catholic hospitals spread across the healthcare system.
Cool Zone is nominated for 3 Webby Awards! Submit your votes by April 16th or we'll hunt down your family.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Behind the Bastards - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/features/experimental-innovation</a>&nbsp;
It Could Happen Here - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/news-politics</a>&nbsp;
Migrating to America - <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary">https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/limited-series-specials/documentary</a> &nbsp;
Sources:
<a href="https://transnews.network/p/u-s-catholic-bishops-launch-attack-on-trans-healthcare-it-s-time-to-fight-back">https://transnews.network/p/u-s-catholic-bishops-launch-attack-on-trans-healthcare-it-s-time-to-fight-back</a>
<a href="https://transnews.network/p/it-s-a-nightmare-the-human-toll-of-the-catholic-church-s-trans-healthcare-ban">https://transnews.network/p/it-s-a-nightmare-the-human-toll-of-the-catholic-church-s-trans-healthcare-ban</a>

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

The Most Extreme Trans Healthcare Ban You've Never Heard Of

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Andrew and James discuss Muammar Gaddafi and his claims of anti imperialism. 

Sources:

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Muammar-al-Qaddafi

https://www.britannica.com/place/Libya/

Libya: The History of Gaddafi's Pariah State By John Oakes

Qaddafi and the Libyan revolution By David Blundy, Andrew Lycett

https://africasacountry.com/2017/12/the-return-of-muammar-gaddafi

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2013/10/03/gaddafis-harem-book

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-16289543

https://newint.org/features/web-exclusive/2016/02/17/what-happened-to-the-other-libyans

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329567625_A_Linguistic_Liberation_of_Gaddafi%27s_Libya_From_Near-Extinction_to_an_Imminent_Revitalization_of_Amazigh

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2018/10/13/tebu-cultural-awakening-we-may-not-be-arabs-but-we-are-libyan

https://marxist.com/nature-of-gaddafi-regime.htm

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/business/23views.html

Gaddafi’s relations with the West: https://libcom.org/article/lies-slaughter-capital-2011-nato-intervention-libya-part-two

https://libcom.org/article/libyan-peoples-committees-should-be-foundation-new-life-not-just-interim-measure

https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/09/05/us-torture-and-rendition-gaddafis-libya

https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/09/09/secret-intelligence-documents-discovered-libya

Andrew and James discuss Muammar Gaddafi and his claims of anti imperialism.&nbsp;
Sources: <a href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Muammar-al-Qaddafi" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="7b5c498a-7355-48fd-a017-a84a95f491c9">https://www.britannica.com/biography/Muammar-al-Qaddafi</a>
<a href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Libya/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="9bd3fd52-6e5f-4068-99bc-092e948dbfea">https://www.britannica.com/place/Libya/</a>
Libya: The History of Gaddafi's Pariah State By John Oakes
Qaddafi and the Libyan revolution By David Blundy, Andrew Lycett
<a href="https://africasacountry.com/2017/12/the-return-of-muammar-gaddafi" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ab0d7c13-06eb-4028-8187-48830ad81acb">https://africasacountry.com/2017/12/the-return-of-muammar-gaddafi</a>
<a href="https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2013/10/03/gaddafis-harem-book" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="b1fa5c19-dd79-4161-9343-3b2f38a5afde">https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2013/10/03/gaddafis-harem-book</a>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-16289543" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="11b66c2f-d60b-4f86-b0e8-cfcdf77f5ba8">https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-16289543</a>
<a href="https://newint.org/features/web-exclusive/2016/02/17/what-happened-to-the-other-libyans" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="02e1085a-128a-48e8-83ea-6c08a167daa0">https://newint.org/features/web-exclusive/2016/02/17/what-happened-to-the-other-libyans</a>
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329567625_A_Linguistic_Liberation_of_Gaddafi%27s_Libya_From_Near-Extinction_to_an_Imminent_Revitalization_of_Amazigh" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="b7ccd048-11f7-4c1a-91e7-02270a494fc9">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329567625_A_Linguistic_Liberation_of_Gaddafi%27s_Libya_From_Near-Extinction_to_an_Imminent_Revitalization_of_Amazigh</a>
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2018/10/13/tebu-cultural-awakening-we-may-not-be-arabs-but-we-are-libyan" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="34c940d2-312e-4833-ab78-d2b6730adef9">https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2018/10/13/tebu-cultural-awakening-we-may-not-be-arabs-but-we-are-libyan</a>
<a href="https://marxist.com/nature-of-gaddafi-regime.htm" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="c353eab9-e27e-4a21-8be9-c682533cdaef">https://marxist.com/nature-of-gaddafi-regime.htm</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/business/23views.html" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="e663dd1c-08ea-492f-862a-c1440ffd0056">https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/business/23views.html</a>
Gaddafi&rsquo;s relations with the West: <a href="https://libcom.org/article/lies-slaughter-capital-2011-nato-intervention-libya-part-two" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="548950bb-419e-49c4-bccd-bec4eee9a01b">https://libcom.org/article/lies-slaughter-capital-2011-nato-intervention-libya-part-two</a>
<a href="https://libcom.org/article/libyan-peoples-committees-should-be-foundation-new-life-not-just-interim-measure" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="1917d3d5-72eb-4a52-b642-2dd9b0f3e18e">https://libcom.org/article/libyan-peoples-committees-should-be-foundation-new-life-not-just-interim-measure</a>
<a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/09/05/us-torture-and-rendition-gaddafis-libya" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="0e088bbc-b011-4d2d-8122-f56fa11b8b1c">https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/09/05/us-torture-and-rendition-gaddafis-libya</a>
<a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/09/09/secret-intelligence-documents-discovered-libya" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="d95cb97f-b44c-49e1-9fb6-e24864325744">https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/09/09/secret-intelligence-documents-discovered-libya</a>

Gaddafi with Andrew

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/739359cc-daa8-4ac5-bdf3-b43a0182074b/transcript

Andrew and James talk about the revolution and civil war in Libya, and discuss the campist approach to world affairs.

Sources:

Iran retaliation: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjrqqd8lw2wo

Timeline of Libyan History: https://www.britannica.com/place/Libya/History

Timeline of Libyan revolt: https://www.britannica.com/event/Libya-Revolt-of-2011

Behind the NTC: http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/1062/2/who-drove-the-libyan-uprising

Consequences and Motivations of Libya intervention: https://jacobin.com/2015/02/libya-intervention-nato-imperialism

https://web.archive.org/web/20220517202837/https://merip.org/2011/11/was-the-libya-intervention-necessary/

https://jacobin.com/2021/03/nato-libya-war-uk-us-france-regime-change

https://jacobin.com/2011/09/libya-and-the-left

Rebel abuses: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-14891913

Targeting of Black Libyans and Migrants: https://www.npr.org/2011/10/20/141549384/blacks-and-migrants-targets-of-attack-in-libya

Displacement numbers in 2012: https://www.unhcr.org/sites/default/files/legacy-pdf/4ec23100b.pdf

Consequences of first civil war: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/24/libya-capital-under-islamist-control-tripoli-airport-seized-operation-dawn

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/2/16/libya-anniversary-the-situation-is-just-terrible

An attempt at unification: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/libyan-politicians-sign-un-peace-deal-unify-rival-governments

El Sharara oilfield situation: https://middle-east-online.com/node/708060

The status quo as of 2020: https://www.politico.eu/article/the-libyan-conflict-explained/

Another attempt at unification: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/15/libya-interim-government-sworn-in-replacing-rival-administration

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/21/libya-parliament-withdraws-confidence-from-unity-government

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/3/un-voices-concern-over-vote-on-new-libyan-prime-minister

Morality police: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/fears-religious-freedom-libya-proposes-new-morality-police

Slave auction: https://africasacountry.com/2017/11/the-slave-auction-in-libya

Libya’s arms in regional instability: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-arms-un-idUSBRE93814Y20130409/

Natural disaster: https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/09/year-rebuilding-libyas-flood-hit-derna-plagued-politics

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/libya-floods-derna-turkish-firm-said-repaired-dam-did-it

Andrew and James talk about the revolution and civil war in Libya, and discuss the campist approach to world affairs.
Sources:
Iran retaliation: <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjrqqd8lw2wo" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="53e7a292-c1da-4706-ac60-4c810568701e">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjrqqd8lw2wo</a>
Timeline of Libyan History: <a href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Libya/History" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="8fcd0423-028e-43ed-aacb-889f57fde63d">https://www.britannica.com/place/Libya/History</a>
Timeline of Libyan revolt: <a href="https://www.britannica.com/event/Libya-Revolt-of-2011" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="7eb9b70e-e1e4-4c90-8db5-4264fe53f916">https://www.britannica.com/event/Libya-Revolt-of-2011</a>
Behind the NTC: <a href="http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/1062/2/who-drove-the-libyan-uprising" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="097ca0e5-4925-49e8-b345-df993d8312d4">http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/1062/2/who-drove-the-libyan-uprising</a>
Consequences and Motivations of Libya intervention: <a href="https://jacobin.com/2015/02/libya-intervention-nato-imperialism" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="1a1eb054-b0d6-43a8-b260-176aacba26ce">https://jacobin.com/2015/02/libya-intervention-nato-imperialism</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220517202837/https://merip.org/2011/11/was-the-libya-intervention-necessary/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ef7d9f77-7821-4a11-b118-9a6f43e2a41d">https://web.archive.org/web/20220517202837/https://merip.org/2011/11/was-the-libya-intervention-necessary/</a>
<a href="https://jacobin.com/2021/03/nato-libya-war-uk-us-france-regime-change" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="48f9c02e-5e9a-458c-b0c3-8cb9fed17e17">https://jacobin.com/2021/03/nato-libya-war-uk-us-france-regime-change</a>
<a href="https://jacobin.com/2011/09/libya-and-the-left" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="2f93b1e4-2507-4603-b467-770bdaec64e4">https://jacobin.com/2011/09/libya-and-the-left</a>
Rebel abuses: <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-14891913" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="6f5682b9-23b9-4b4c-a6e8-0feee73e1dc0">https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-14891913</a>
Targeting of Black Libyans and Migrants: <a href="https://www.npr.org/2011/10/20/141549384/blacks-and-migrants-targets-of-attack-in-libya" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ae1f8319-ce81-487d-8ba1-96fce7fd2404">https://www.npr.org/2011/10/20/141549384/blacks-and-migrants-targets-of-attack-in-libya</a>
Displacement numbers in 2012: <a href="https://www.unhcr.org/sites/default/files/legacy-pdf/4ec23100b.pdf" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="212a0ccb-a564-4dcd-9312-66dd3454f107">https://www.unhcr.org/sites/default/files/legacy-pdf/4ec23100b.pdf</a>
Consequences of first civil war: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/24/libya-capital-under-islamist-control-tripoli-airport-seized-operation-dawn" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="a7741e5c-5b3d-4fcf-a2e6-4d21345709eb">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/24/libya-capital-under-islamist-control-tripoli-airport-seized-operation-dawn</a>
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/2/16/libya-anniversary-the-situation-is-just-terrible" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="3a532966-d3eb-4b63-8356-14f83a106e47">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/2/16/libya-anniversary-the-situation-is-just-terrible</a>
An attempt at unification: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/libyan-politicians-sign-un-peace-deal-unify-rival-governments" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="e76d2a83-0523-43a9-b631-c7145974cdd5">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/libyan-politicians-sign-un-peace-deal-unify-rival-governments</a>
El Sharara oilfield situation: <a href="https://middle-east-online.com/node/708060" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="3830d9d6-4436-424c-baa7-461ecf362359">https://middle-east-online.com/node/708060</a>
The status quo as of 2020: <a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/the-libyan-conflict-explained/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="f76d12c2-d149-484d-8cd4-8316e3bfc2e0">https://www.politico.eu/article/the-libyan-conflict-explained/</a>
Another attempt at unification: <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/15/libya-interim-government-sworn-in-replacing-rival-administration" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="77233067-ba15-4af4-8c9d-cd859d355f50">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/15/libya-interim-government-sworn-in-replacing-rival-administration</a>
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/21/libya-parliament-withdraws-confidence-from-unity-government" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="a523b537-a1d7-4ee9-82a3-dc5652648017">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/21/libya-parliament-withdraws-confidence-from-unity-government</a>
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/3/un-voices-concern-over-vote-on-new-libyan-prime-minister" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="b275eece-efd0-4806-9920-cd951a9b19c2">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/3/un-voices-concern-over-vote-on-new-libyan-prime-minister</a>
Morality police: <a href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/fears-religious-freedom-libya-proposes-new-morality-police" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="6cc67ee9-c207-44ab-9f15-b71ff381f1b9">https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/fears-religious-freedom-libya-proposes-new-morality-police</a>
Slave auction: <a href="https://africasacountry.com/2017/11/the-slave-auction-in-libya" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="f709e5b3-1893-4231-85f0-3e266b063a76">https://africasacountry.com/2017/11/the-slave-auction-in-libya</a>
Libya&rsquo;s arms in regional instability: <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-arms-un-idUSBRE93814Y20130409/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="2522f74c-de97-4d90-a66a-2089cd1d1565">https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-arms-un-idUSBRE93814Y20130409/</a>
Natural disaster: <a href="https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/09/year-rebuilding-libyas-flood-hit-derna-plagued-politics" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="306ae408-cc61-4618-9fdf-c58b7d52185d">https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/09/year-rebuilding-libyas-flood-hit-derna-plagued-politics</a>
<a href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/libya-floods-derna-turkish-firm-said-repaired-dam-did-it" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="6c80a17f-3c9a-4f27-8307-f6c9a234cf10">https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/libya-floods-derna-turkish-firm-said-repaired-dam-did-it</a>

Libya with Andrew

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/d6911bd8-9523-4a03-8ab5-b4390149c74f/transcript

After a shooting at the White House Correspondents Dinner, Robert takes a look at the current political environment to explain why previously normal people keep taking extreme action with ever-growing frequency.

After a shooting at the White House Correspondents Dinner, Robert takes a look at the current political environment to explain why previously normal people keep taking extreme action with ever-growing frequency.

The Age of Extremophiles

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/f1f82b18-9477-4f04-bc04-b4390004cc56/transcript

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