Molly interviews Christopher Mathias about his new book, To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right. It's a rollicking tale of infiltrating nazi groups and exposing their private communications to dox them en masse. 

Preorder Chris' book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767 

The article Chris mentioned about Spit & Dan: https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/

Molly interviews Christopher Mathias about his new book, To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right. It's a rollicking tale of infiltrating nazi groups and exposing their private communications to dox them en masse.&nbsp;
Preorder Chris' book:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="d404bd8f-e8a9-4b4d-988e-a823bc57d071">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767</a>&nbsp;
The article Chris mentioned about Spit &amp; Dan:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="08e21234-12ca-4f83-b79a-9d8509414608">https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/</a>

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/9c5246c7-dd6f-451f-bd89-b3e0018a8bd5/transcript

Andrew and James continue their discussion of what happened in Panama in 1989 and why people are comparing these events to what is happening in Venezuela.

Sources:

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/omar-torrijos-ousts-arias-panama

Emperors In the Jungle: The Hidden History of the U.S. in Panama by John Lindsay-Poland

Andrew and James continue their discussion of what happened in Panama in 1989 and why people are comparing these events to what is happening in Venezuela.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/omar-torrijos-ousts-arias-panama" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="a18fd7c5-2736-4c17-9ae0-03a64c1b037d">https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/omar-torrijos-ousts-arias-panama</a>
Emperors In the Jungle: The Hidden History of the U.S. in Panama by John Lindsay-Poland

Panama 1989 to Venezuela 2026: What History Can Teach Us Pt. 2

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/62ac9148-6d6c-42c7-8a95-b3e6015310d5/transcript

Andrew and James discuss what happened in Panama in 1989 and why people are comparing these events to what is happening in Venezuela.

Sources:

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuelas-interior-minister-says-100-people-died-us-attack-2026-01-08/

Emperors In the Jungle: The Hidden History of the U.S. in Panama by John Lindsay-Poland

Andrew and James discuss what happened in Panama in 1989 and why people are comparing these events to what is happening in Venezuela.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuelas-interior-minister-says-100-people-died-us-attack-2026-01-08/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuelas-interior-minister-says-100-people-died-us-attack-2026-01-08/</a>
Emperors In the Jungle: The Hidden History of the U.S. in Panama by John Lindsay-Poland

Panama 1989 to Venezuela 2026: What History Can Teach Us feat. Andrew

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/891c0fde-d7fe-485f-8dd2-b3e5016ae408/transcript

Garrison and Mia unravel whether the DHS is posting coded nazi messages, and discuss the limits of treating anti fascism as an easter egg hunt.

Original Air Date: 08.07.25

Sources:

https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/

https://files.libcom.org/files/[Mark_Fisher]_Capitalist_Realism_Is_There_no_Alte(BookZZ.org).pdf

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trumps-immigration-record-far-high-arrests-low-deportations-rcna217752

https://michiganadvance.com/2025/04/09/ice-director-envisions-amazon-like-mass-deportation-system-prime-but-with-human-beings/ 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-refuses-us-military-flight-deporting-migrants-sources-say-2025-01-25/

https://bsky.app/profile/bishonentype.bsky.social/post/3luq3qktltc2n

Garrison and Mia unravel whether the DHS is posting coded nazi messages, and discuss the limits of treating anti fascism as an easter egg hunt.
Original Air Date: 08.07.25
Sources:
<a href="https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/">https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/</a>
<a href="https://files.libcom.org/files/[Mark_Fisher]_Capitalist_Realism_Is_There_no_Alte(BookZZ.org).pdf">https://files.libcom.org/files/[Mark_Fisher]_Capitalist_Realism_Is_There_no_Alte(BookZZ.org).pdf</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trumps-immigration-record-far-high-arrests-low-deportations-rcna217752">https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trumps-immigration-record-far-high-arrests-low-deportations-rcna217752</a>
<a href="https://michiganadvance.com/2025/04/09/ice-director-envisions-amazon-like-mass-deportation-system-prime-but-with-human-beings/">https://michiganadvance.com/2025/04/09/ice-director-envisions-amazon-like-mass-deportation-system-prime-but-with-human-beings/ </a>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-refuses-us-military-flight-deporting-migrants-sources-say-2025-01-25/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-refuses-us-military-flight-deporting-migrants-sources-say-2025-01-25/</a>
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/bishonentype.bsky.social/post/3luq3qktltc2n">https://bsky.app/profile/bishonentype.bsky.social/post/3luq3qktltc2n</a>

CZM Rewind: Dogwhistle Politics and Nazi Code Hunting

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/393b0101-ed25-4c73-80e8-b3e50018af66/transcript

To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias

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