Are you worried about the possibility of The Second American Civil War? In Episode 1 of, 'It Could Happen Here,' Robert explains why 2016 was the first time he started to seriously worry about it.

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Are you worried about the possibility of The Second American Civil War? In Episode 1 of, 'It Could Happen Here,' Robert explains why 2016 was the first time he started to seriously worry about it. Learn more about your ad-choices at <a href="https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com">https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com</a>

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

The Second American Civil War

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Former Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino travelled to a racist conference in Europe, James and Mia break down his interviews there and what it tells us about the culture of the agency he spent decades in.

Sources:

https://remigrationsummit.com/ 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought 

https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/ 

http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/ 

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf 

https://www.cbp.gov/about 

https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444 

https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7Y

Former Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino travelled to a racist conference in Europe, James and Mia break down his interviews there and what it tells us about the culture of the agency he spent decades in.
Sources:
<a href="https://remigrationsummit.com/">https://remigrationsummit.com/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/">https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/">http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf">https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cbp.gov/about">https://www.cbp.gov/about</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444">https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7Y">https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7Y</a>

Bovino’s Visit to Europe

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This week we are collaborating with In The Belly Magazine to read you a short memoir piece about organizing behind bars.

This week we are collaborating with In The Belly Magazine to read you a short memoir piece about organizing behind bars.

CZM Book Club: Phone Resistance, by Safear Ness -- with In The Belly Magazine

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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. 

- Bears! And the Guys Who Don’t Like Them

- How to Potluck Your Way to a Union

- What’s In the DNC’s 2024 Autopsy

- The War on Iran and Convergences of Fascism

- Executive Disorder: California Elections, SCOTUS Approves GOP Map, Greg Bovino Update

You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today!

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Sources/Links:

Bears! And the Guys Who Don’t Like Them

https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/news/missing-hiker-and-bear-encounter-victim-identified.htm

https://www.hcn.org/issues/49-9/zinke-went-to-bears-ears-to-listen-but-supporters-felt-unheard/ 

https://x.com/RepRyanZinke/status/2054303113549381650?s=20 

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/10/25/16-30033.pdf 

https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/Endangered-Species-Act-at-50/ 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5829a2.htm 

https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/16/dying-wolf-struck-by-snowmobile-shown-off-in-wyoming-bar/ 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261982557_Efficacy_of_Firearms_for_Bear_Deterrence_in_Alaska 

https://www.bearwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/efficacy-of-bear-spray-smith-et-al.-2010.pdf 

https://alaskapublic.org/news/environment/2026-05-07/after-legal-challenge-alaska-judge-approves-states-revised-bear-cull-in-southwest-alaska 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28097859-250506-mulchatna/ 

https://www.akleg.gov/basis/Bill/Text/34?Hsid=HB0364A 

https://propakistani.pk/2026/05/28/mma-fighter-killed-in-bear-attack-in-canada/

How to Potluck Your Way to a Union

https://www.gofundme.com/f/MujiWorkersUnited


https://www.instagram.com/mujiworkersunited.pdx/

What’s In the DNC’s 2024 Autopsy

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/May-20-2026.pdf 

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/01/ken-martin-elected-dnc-party-chair-00201938

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-inside-story 

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/heres-what-i-told-the-dnc-autopsy-biden-harris-2024-lessons-democrats-2028

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-takeaways-vis

The War on Iran and Convergences of Fascism

Mohammad Ali Kadivar on the Iranian regime’s popular mobilization - https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/online-exclusive/why-the-iranian-regime-owns-the-streets/

Moustafa Bayoumi on the anti-Palestinian roots of Islamophobia - https://www.theguardian.com/news/article/2024/may/23/islamophobia-us-palestine-history  

Negar Razavi’s website - https://negarsrazavi.com/ 

Executive Disorder: California Elections, SCOTUS Approves GOP Map, Greg Bovino Update

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2061537793843532054?s=20 

https://x.com/Tomhennessey69/status/2061343239794299374

https://remigrationsummit.com/ 

https://www.politico.eu/article/afd-vox-mingle-with-ex-us-border-patrol-chief-white-nationalist-leader-at-remigration-summit/ 

https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/ 

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2061550046571528666?s=20 

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2061419519705223257?s=20 

https://www.axios.com/2026/06/01/trump-netanyahu-israel-lebanon-call 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/iran-may-used-chinese-missile-shoot-us-fighter-jet-sources-say-rcna347555 

https://www.patreon.com/posts/dont-confuse-and-159583359 

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mndeoj7qnk24 

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2026-11094.pdf

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/06/promoting-advanced-artificial-intelligence-innovation-and-security/ 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5905542-donald-trump-bill-pulte-odni-democratic-reaction/

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25a1314_7m58.pdf


https://www.scotusblog.com/2026/06/supreme-court-permits-alabama-to-use-congressional-map-struck-by-lower-court-as-racially-discrim/

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/03/nx-s1-5844678/trump-science-funding-omb-budget-office-rule-change

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aej3572

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adz9553

https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/this-new-omb-rule-is-bigger-than

https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/summary-of-key-changes-in-ombs-proposed

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/29/2026-10817/regulation-for-federal-financial-assistance

https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-slam-hhs-report-gender-affirming-care-youth

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/science-research-policy/2026/05/29/omb-proposes-rules-establishing-political

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.&nbsp;
- Bears! And the Guys Who Don&rsquo;t Like Them
- How to Potluck Your Way to a Union
- What&rsquo;s In the DNC&rsquo;s 2024 Autopsy
- The War on Iran and Convergences of Fascism
- Executive Disorder: California Elections, SCOTUS Approves GOP Map, Greg Bovino Update
You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for &ldquo;Cooler Zone Media&rdquo; and subscribe today!
<a href="http://apple.co/coolerzone">http://apple.co/coolerzone</a>
Sources/Links:
Bears! And the Guys Who Don&rsquo;t Like Them
<a href="https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/news/missing-hiker-and-bear-encounter-victim-identified.htm">https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/news/missing-hiker-and-bear-encounter-victim-identified.htm</a>
<a href="https://www.hcn.org/issues/49-9/zinke-went-to-bears-ears-to-listen-but-supporters-felt-unheard/">https://www.hcn.org/issues/49-9/zinke-went-to-bears-ears-to-listen-but-supporters-felt-unheard/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/RepRyanZinke/status/2054303113549381650?s=20">https://x.com/RepRyanZinke/status/2054303113549381650?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/10/25/16-30033.pdf">https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/10/25/16-30033.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/Endangered-Species-Act-at-50/">https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/Endangered-Species-Act-at-50/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5829a2.htm">https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5829a2.htm</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/16/dying-wolf-struck-by-snowmobile-shown-off-in-wyoming-bar/">https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/16/dying-wolf-struck-by-snowmobile-shown-off-in-wyoming-bar/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261982557_Efficacy_of_Firearms_for_Bear_Deterrence_in_Alaska">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261982557_Efficacy_of_Firearms_for_Bear_Deterrence_in_Alaska</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.bearwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/efficacy-of-bear-spray-smith-et-al.-2010.pdf">https://www.bearwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/efficacy-of-bear-spray-smith-et-al.-2010.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://alaskapublic.org/news/environment/2026-05-07/after-legal-challenge-alaska-judge-approves-states-revised-bear-cull-in-southwest-alaska">https://alaskapublic.org/news/environment/2026-05-07/after-legal-challenge-alaska-judge-approves-states-revised-bear-cull-in-southwest-alaska</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28097859-250506-mulchatna/">https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28097859-250506-mulchatna/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.akleg.gov/basis/Bill/Text/34?Hsid=HB0364A">https://www.akleg.gov/basis/Bill/Text/34?Hsid=HB0364A</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://propakistani.pk/2026/05/28/mma-fighter-killed-in-bear-attack-in-canada/">https://propakistani.pk/2026/05/28/mma-fighter-killed-in-bear-attack-in-canada/</a>
How to Potluck Your Way to a Union
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/MujiWorkersUnited">https://www.gofundme.com/f/MujiWorkersUnited </a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/mujiworkersunited.pdx/">https://www.instagram.com/mujiworkersunited.pdx/</a>
What&rsquo;s In the DNC&rsquo;s 2024 Autopsy
<a href="https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/May-20-2026.pdf">https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/May-20-2026.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/01/ken-martin-elected-dnc-party-chair-00201938">https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/01/ken-martin-elected-dnc-party-chair-00201938</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-inside-story">https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-inside-story</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/heres-what-i-told-the-dnc-autopsy-biden-harris-2024-lessons-democrats-2028">https://www.thebulwark.com/p/heres-what-i-told-the-dnc-autopsy-biden-harris-2024-lessons-democrats-2028</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-takeaways-vis">https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-takeaways-vis</a>
The War on Iran and Convergences of Fascism
Mohammad Ali Kadivar on the Iranian regime&rsquo;s popular mobilization - <a href="https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/online-exclusive/why-the-iranian-regime-owns-the-streets/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="56097b6b-eaef-4b2e-ba01-e8a4918470ab">https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/online-exclusive/why-the-iranian-regime-owns-the-streets/</a>
Moustafa Bayoumi on the anti-Palestinian roots of Islamophobia - <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/news/article/2024/may/23/islamophobia-us-palestine-history" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="9f3a7370-2221-42da-8a3b-6ace18c3e70d">https://www.theguardian.com/news/article/2024/may/23/islamophobia-us-palestine-history</a> &nbsp;
Negar Razavi&rsquo;s website - <a href="https://negarsrazavi.com/">https://negarsrazavi.com/</a>&nbsp;
Executive Disorder: California Elections, SCOTUS Approves GOP Map, Greg Bovino Update
<a href="https://x.com/atrupar/status/2061537793843532054?s=20">https://x.com/atrupar/status/2061537793843532054?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/Tomhennessey69/status/2061343239794299374">https://x.com/Tomhennessey69/status/2061343239794299374</a>
<a href="https://remigrationsummit.com/">https://remigrationsummit.com/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.politico.eu/article/afd-vox-mingle-with-ex-us-border-patrol-chief-white-nationalist-leader-at-remigration-summit/">https://www.politico.eu/article/afd-vox-mingle-with-ex-us-border-patrol-chief-white-nationalist-leader-at-remigration-summit/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/">https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2061550046571528666?s=20">https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2061550046571528666?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2061419519705223257?s=20">https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2061419519705223257?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/06/01/trump-netanyahu-israel-lebanon-call">https://www.axios.com/2026/06/01/trump-netanyahu-israel-lebanon-call</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/iran-may-used-chinese-missile-shoot-us-fighter-jet-sources-say-rcna347555">https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/iran-may-used-chinese-missile-shoot-us-fighter-jet-sources-say-rcna347555</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/dont-confuse-and-159583359">https://www.patreon.com/posts/dont-confuse-and-159583359</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mndeoj7qnk24">https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mndeoj7qnk24</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2026-11094.pdf">https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2026-11094.pdf</a>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/06/promoting-advanced-artificial-intelligence-innovation-and-security/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/06/promoting-advanced-artificial-intelligence-innovation-and-security/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5905542-donald-trump-bill-pulte-odni-democratic-reaction/">https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5905542-donald-trump-bill-pulte-odni-democratic-reaction/</a>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25a1314_7m58.pdf">https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25a1314_7m58.pdf </a>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/2026/06/supreme-court-permits-alabama-to-use-congressional-map-struck-by-lower-court-as-racially-discrim/">https://www.scotusblog.com/2026/06/supreme-court-permits-alabama-to-use-congressional-map-struck-by-lower-court-as-racially-discrim/</a> <a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/06/03/nx-s1-5844678/trump-science-funding-omb-budget-office-rule-change">https://www.npr.org/2026/06/03/nx-s1-5844678/trump-science-funding-omb-budget-office-rule-change</a>
<a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aej3572">https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aej3572</a>
<a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adz9553">https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adz9553</a>
<a href="https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/this-new-omb-rule-is-bigger-than">https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/this-new-omb-rule-is-bigger-than</a>
<a href="https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/summary-of-key-changes-in-ombs-proposed">https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/summary-of-key-changes-in-ombs-proposed</a>
<a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/29/2026-10817/regulation-for-federal-financial-assistance">https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/29/2026-10817/regulation-for-federal-financial-assistance</a>
<a href="https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-slam-hhs-report-gender-affirming-care-youth">https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-slam-hhs-report-gender-affirming-care-youth</a>
<a href="https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/science-research-policy/2026/05/29/omb-proposes-rules-establishing-political">https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/science-research-policy/2026/05/29/omb-proposes-rules-establishing-political</a>

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