Robert and James sit down with Marianna Wright (director of the Butterfly Center) and Jenn Budd (a former Border Patrol officer) to talk about the newest anti-migrant fuckery at the U.S. / Mexico border.

Robert and James sit down with Marianna Wright (director of the Butterfly Center) and Jenn Budd (a former Border Patrol officer) to talk about the newest anti-migrant fuckery at the U.S. / Mexico border.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

The Deadly New Underwater Border Fence

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/5811e5ef-e819-4b17-8eef-b03c00169839/transcript

Dana El Kurd breaks down the ongoing debate among Palestinians about what should happen in Gaza, whether Hamas should disarm, and the role of armed tactics more generally.

(Please note this episode was recorded prior to the 2026 Iran War)

Sources:

Moral Matters in Hard Times - https://www.dohainstitute.org/en/Lists/ACRPS-PDFDocumentLibrary/moral-matters-in-hard-times.pdf

October 2025 poll of Palestinians - https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2096%20press%20release%20FINAL%20ENGLISH%2028%20Oct%202025.pdf

Disarmament reporting - https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2020639164602200358

Khaled Meshaal interview with Drop Site News - https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/hamas-leader-khaled-meshaal-interview-trump-maga-united-states-support-israel-gaza-netanyahu

Reconstruction of Gaza reporting - https://www.dw.com/en/trump-board-of-peace-backers-pledge-5-billion-for-gaza/a-75982195

Aljazeera reporting on Israeli backed gangs in Gaza - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/6/armed-militia-members-are-serving-as-israeli-agents-in-gaza-investigation

Panel interview in Gaza - https://youtu.be/gbG2HxwLHgk?si=im4SHWm6v0g60t75

Dana El Kurd breaks down the ongoing debate among Palestinians about what should happen in Gaza, whether Hamas should disarm, and the role of armed tactics more generally.
(Please note this episode was recorded prior to the 2026 Iran War)
Sources:
Moral Matters in Hard Times -&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dohainstitute.org/en/Lists/ACRPS-PDFDocumentLibrary/moral-matters-in-hard-times.pdf">https://www.dohainstitute.org/en/Lists/ACRPS-PDFDocumentLibrary/moral-matters-in-hard-times.pdf</a>
October 2025 poll of Palestinians - <a href="https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2096%20press%20release%20FINAL%20ENGLISH%2028%20Oct%202025.pdf">https://www.pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2096%20press%20release%20FINAL%20ENGLISH%2028%20Oct%202025.pdf</a>
Disarmament reporting - <a href="https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2020639164602200358">https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2020639164602200358</a>
Khaled Meshaal interview with Drop Site News - <a href="https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/hamas-leader-khaled-meshaal-interview-trump-maga-united-states-support-israel-gaza-netanyahu">https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/hamas-leader-khaled-meshaal-interview-trump-maga-united-states-support-israel-gaza-netanyahu</a>
Reconstruction of Gaza reporting - <a href="https://www.dw.com/en/trump-board-of-peace-backers-pledge-5-billion-for-gaza/a-75982195">https://www.dw.com/en/trump-board-of-peace-backers-pledge-5-billion-for-gaza/a-75982195</a>
Aljazeera reporting on Israeli backed gangs in Gaza - <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/6/armed-militia-members-are-serving-as-israeli-agents-in-gaza-investigation">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/6/armed-militia-members-are-serving-as-israeli-agents-in-gaza-investigation</a>
Panel interview in Gaza - <a href="https://youtu.be/gbG2HxwLHgk?si=im4SHWm6v0g60t75">https://youtu.be/gbG2HxwLHgk?si=im4SHWm6v0g60t75</a>

Palestinians Debate Armed Tactics

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/3ca8b058-31b3-4aec-8e1a-b4100000c90f/transcript

James and Gare talk about the world of private maritime security, pirates, and the strait of Hormuz.

Sources:

https://www.register-iri.com/wp-content/uploads/MN-2-011-39.pdf

https://en.mercopress.com/2009/04/26/cruise-ship-melody-fended-off-a-pirate-attack 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/48821900?searchText=&searchUri=&ab_segments=&searchKey=&refreqid=fastly-default%3Aa5c02fb4e4aea98208bb9f0b37780d3b&initiator=recommender&seq=1 

https://abcnews.com/Business/International/pirates-attack-us-flagged-maersk-alabama/story?id=9114429 

https://www.ospreyobserver.com/2011/11/riverview-resident-receives-commemorative-knife-after-surviving-pirate-attack/

James and Gare talk about the world of private maritime security, pirates, and the strait of Hormuz.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.register-iri.com/wp-content/uploads/MN-2-011-39.pdf">https://www.register-iri.com/wp-content/uploads/MN-2-011-39.pdf</a>
<a href="https://en.mercopress.com/2009/04/26/cruise-ship-melody-fended-off-a-pirate-attack">https://en.mercopress.com/2009/04/26/cruise-ship-melody-fended-off-a-pirate-attack</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/48821900?searchText=&amp;searchUri=&amp;ab_segments=&amp;searchKey=&amp;refreqid=fastly-default%3Aa5c02fb4e4aea98208bb9f0b37780d3b&amp;initiator=recommender&amp;seq=1">https://www.jstor.org/stable/48821900?searchText=&amp;searchUri=&amp;ab_segments=&amp;searchKey=&amp;refreqid=fastly-default%3Aa5c02fb4e4aea98208bb9f0b37780d3b&amp;initiator=recommender&amp;seq=1</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://abcnews.com/Business/International/pirates-attack-us-flagged-maersk-alabama/story?id=9114429">https://abcnews.com/Business/International/pirates-attack-us-flagged-maersk-alabama/story?id=9114429</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.ospreyobserver.com/2011/11/riverview-resident-receives-commemorative-knife-after-surviving-pirate-attack/">https://www.ospreyobserver.com/2011/11/riverview-resident-receives-commemorative-knife-after-surviving-pirate-attack/</a>

Shipping Security in the Strait of Hormuz

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/029861fe-8b6b-4152-9e37-b40d002192b5/transcript

Margaret reads you a story about the magic embeded into the mundane

Margaret reads you a story about the magic embeded into the mundane

CZM Book Club: Girls Who Look Through Glass, by Alex Smith

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/c176a8d7-c135-46e5-9cab-b40d01848a01/transcript

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