Robert and Mia talk with famed No Fly List hacker maia arson crimew about the shady industry of stalkerware, spy software that allows people to spy on their victims' devices.

Robert and Mia talk with famed No Fly List hacker maia arson crimew about the shady industry of stalkerware, spy software that allows people to spy on their victims' devices.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

Stalkerware ft. maia arson crimew

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/c89882ab-e6e8-4f39-a30f-b13900239f00/transcript

Garrison and Mia unravel whether the DHS is posting coded nazi messages, and discuss the limits of treating anti fascism as an easter egg hunt.

Original Air Date: 08.07.25

Sources:

https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/

https://files.libcom.org/files/[Mark_Fisher]_Capitalist_Realism_Is_There_no_Alte(BookZZ.org).pdf

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trumps-immigration-record-far-high-arrests-low-deportations-rcna217752

https://michiganadvance.com/2025/04/09/ice-director-envisions-amazon-like-mass-deportation-system-prime-but-with-human-beings/ 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-refuses-us-military-flight-deporting-migrants-sources-say-2025-01-25/

https://bsky.app/profile/bishonentype.bsky.social/post/3luq3qktltc2n

Garrison and Mia unravel whether the DHS is posting coded nazi messages, and discuss the limits of treating anti fascism as an easter egg hunt.
Original Air Date: 08.07.25
Sources:
<a href="https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/">https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/</a>
<a href="https://files.libcom.org/files/[Mark_Fisher]_Capitalist_Realism_Is_There_no_Alte(BookZZ.org).pdf">https://files.libcom.org/files/[Mark_Fisher]_Capitalist_Realism_Is_There_no_Alte(BookZZ.org).pdf</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trumps-immigration-record-far-high-arrests-low-deportations-rcna217752">https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trumps-immigration-record-far-high-arrests-low-deportations-rcna217752</a>
<a href="https://michiganadvance.com/2025/04/09/ice-director-envisions-amazon-like-mass-deportation-system-prime-but-with-human-beings/">https://michiganadvance.com/2025/04/09/ice-director-envisions-amazon-like-mass-deportation-system-prime-but-with-human-beings/ </a>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-refuses-us-military-flight-deporting-migrants-sources-say-2025-01-25/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-refuses-us-military-flight-deporting-migrants-sources-say-2025-01-25/</a>
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/bishonentype.bsky.social/post/3luq3qktltc2n">https://bsky.app/profile/bishonentype.bsky.social/post/3luq3qktltc2n</a>

CZM Rewind: Dogwhistle Politics and Nazi Code Hunting

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/393b0101-ed25-4c73-80e8-b3e50018af66/transcript

Margaret reads you excerpts from a book explaining the ins and outs of mutual aid.

Margaret reads you excerpts from a book explaining the ins and outs of mutual aid.

CZM Book Club: Mutual Aid by Dean Spade, Part One

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/fbfff4f9-68b8-4dbb-9eb4-b3e40023aed3/transcript

Gaza and the Board of Peace feat. Dana El Kurd

Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota

Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota 2

To Catch A Fascist

Executive Disorder

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. 

- Gaza and the Board of Peace feat. Dana El Kurd

- Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota

- Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota, Pt. 2

- To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias

- Executive Disorder: Alex Pretti Shooting, DHS Funding Bill & Rojava

You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today!

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Sources/Links:

Gaza and the Board of Peace feat. Dana El Kurd

UNOCHA on ceasefire violations - https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/humanitarian-situation-update-353-gaza-strip 

BBC on the Yellow Line - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgxl6zkenqo

Aljazeera on the 20 point plan - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/16/us-declares-phase-two-of-gaza-ceasefire-but-what-did-phase-one-deliver 

The Huffington Post on Putin’s invite - https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-has-invited-vladimir-putin-to-join-his-gaza-board-of-peace-kremlin-says_uk_696e0478e4b0fb912e9948f8?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1768820090 

Aljazeera on Board of Peace - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/18/trumps-board-of-peace-appears-to-seek-wider-mandate-beyond-gaza 

Who is Nikolay Mladenov - https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/1/15/who-is-nickolay-mladenov-the-diplomat-tasked-with-disarming-gaza 

Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota

Rent Support for neighbors in Phillips:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need

Rent Support for neighbors in Central:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families

Rent Support for neighbors in Powderhorn:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis

Supplies for Political Art Making:

https://givebutter.com/spno

Protective Gear for Legal Observers:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe

Diapers and Menstrual Supplies:

https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2

Abolish ICE Shirts:

https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e

Northstar Front Line Street Medics:

https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth

Twin Cities Swoletariat Bail Fund:

Venmo: @TCSwoletariat

Cashapp: $TCSwoletariat

To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias

Preorder Chris' book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767 

The article Chris mentioned about Spit & Dan: https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/

Executive Disorder: Alex Pretti Shooting, DHS Funding Bill & Rojava

https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fHjlCV6d7gVSHjiN&t=1222&v=Amhb8PK_an8&feature=youtu.be

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388288892112

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/26/greg-bovino-agents-victims-pretti-minneapolis-shooting/88361659007/ 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.107.0.pdf 

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.109.0.pdf 

https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115968824541011312 

https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3mdg7b7k5nc2q 

https://newrepublic.com/article/205723/dem-senator-harsh-new-takedown-trump-hits-home-breaking-point 

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-287 

https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015826728644391063?s=20

https://x.com/MayorFrey/status/2015917704725622985?s=20

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM7ap12vPo

https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2016564180757725221?s=20 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump 

https://x.com/cspan/status/2016557604282011748?s=20 

https://prospect.org/2026/01/26/ice-trump-democrats-funding-department-homeland-security-alex-pretti-minnesota/

https://www.axios.com/2026/01/26/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-government-shutdown

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs

https://www.axios.com/local/boston/2025/04/29/patriots-plane-guantanamo

https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/pats-team-plane-apparently-used-for-ice-deportation-flights

https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/29/new-england-patriots-charter-jet-guantanamo

https://apnews.com/article/ihan-omar-vinegar-attack-minneapolis-385a30eaf6acc40d6ba5c6c45c09304d

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.&nbsp;
- Gaza and the Board of Peace feat. Dana El Kurd
- Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota
- Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota, Pt. 2
- To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias
- Executive Disorder: Alex Pretti Shooting, DHS Funding Bill &amp; Rojava
You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for &ldquo;Cooler Zone Media&rdquo; and subscribe today!
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Sources/Links:
Gaza and the Board of Peace feat. Dana El Kurd
UNOCHA on ceasefire violations - <a href="https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/humanitarian-situation-update-353-gaza-strip" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="4572c6f2-6b93-474d-8a44-80c0788a13de">https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/humanitarian-situation-update-353-gaza-strip</a>&nbsp;
BBC on the Yellow Line - <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgxl6zkenqo" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="8b19497b-3524-49d8-8c1b-f0e4a25f8224">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgxl6zkenqo</a>
Aljazeera on the 20 point plan - <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/16/us-declares-phase-two-of-gaza-ceasefire-but-what-did-phase-one-deliver" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="e5ee7676-8c51-4ee3-8dc6-1fba19c5ac47">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/16/us-declares-phase-two-of-gaza-ceasefire-but-what-did-phase-one-deliver</a>&nbsp;
The Huffington Post on Putin&rsquo;s invite - <a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-has-invited-vladimir-putin-to-join-his-gaza-board-of-peace-kremlin-says_uk_696e0478e4b0fb912e9948f8?utm_term=Autofeed&amp;utm_medium=Social&amp;utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1768820090" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="9d1a395d-f372-4c44-97af-7719c73e518d">https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-has-invited-vladimir-putin-to-join-his-gaza-board-of-peace-kremlin-says_uk_696e0478e4b0fb912e9948f8?utm_term=Autofeed&amp;utm_medium=Social&amp;utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1768820090</a>&nbsp;
Aljazeera on Board of Peace - <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/18/trumps-board-of-peace-appears-to-seek-wider-mandate-beyond-gaza" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="455f9b8e-24c9-447e-8312-0109ef6aa4ea">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/18/trumps-board-of-peace-appears-to-seek-wider-mandate-beyond-gaza</a>&nbsp;
Who is Nikolay Mladenov - <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/1/15/who-is-nickolay-mladenov-the-diplomat-tasked-with-disarming-gaza">https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/1/15/who-is-nickolay-mladenov-the-diplomat-tasked-with-disarming-gaza</a>&nbsp;
Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota
Rent Support for neighbors in Phillips:
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need</a>
Rent Support for neighbors in Central:
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families">https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families</a>
Rent Support for neighbors in Powderhorn:
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis</a>
Supplies for Political Art Making:
<a href="https://givebutter.com/spno">https://givebutter.com/spno</a>
Protective Gear for Legal Observers:
<a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe">https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe</a>
Diapers and Menstrual Supplies:
<a href="https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2">https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2</a>
Abolish ICE Shirts:
<a href="https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e">https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e</a>
Northstar Front Line Street Medics:
<a href="https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth">https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth</a>
Twin Cities Swoletariat Bail Fund:
Venmo: @TCSwoletariat
Cashapp: $TCSwoletariat
To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias
Preorder Chris' book:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="d404bd8f-e8a9-4b4d-988e-a823bc57d071">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767</a>&nbsp;
The article Chris mentioned about Spit &amp; Dan:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/">https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/</a>
Executive Disorder: Alex Pretti Shooting, DHS Funding Bill &amp; Rojava
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fHjlCV6d7gVSHjiN&amp;t=1222&amp;v=Amhb8PK_an8&amp;feature=youtu.be">https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fHjlCV6d7gVSHjiN&amp;t=1222&amp;v=Amhb8PK_an8&amp;feature=youtu.be</a>
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388288892112">https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388288892112</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid">https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/26/greg-bovino-agents-victims-pretti-minneapolis-shooting/88361659007/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/26/greg-bovino-agents-victims-pretti-minneapolis-shooting/88361659007/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.107.0.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.107.0.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.109.0.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.109.0.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426">https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115968824541011312">https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115968824541011312</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3mdg7b7k5nc2q">https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3mdg7b7k5nc2q</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/205723/dem-senator-harsh-new-takedown-trump-hits-home-breaking-point">https://newrepublic.com/article/205723/dem-senator-harsh-new-takedown-trump-hits-home-breaking-point</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-287">https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-287</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015826728644391063?s=20">https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015826728644391063?s=20</a>
<a href="https://x.com/MayorFrey/status/2015917704725622985?s=20">https://x.com/MayorFrey/status/2015917704725622985?s=20</a>
<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/">https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM7ap12vPo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM7ap12vPo</a>
<a href="https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2016564180757725221?s=20">https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2016564180757725221?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump">https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/cspan/status/2016557604282011748?s=20">https://x.com/cspan/status/2016557604282011748?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://prospect.org/2026/01/26/ice-trump-democrats-funding-department-homeland-security-alex-pretti-minnesota/">https://prospect.org/2026/01/26/ice-trump-democrats-funding-department-homeland-security-alex-pretti-minnesota/</a>
<a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/01/26/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-government-shutdown">https://www.axios.com/2026/01/26/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-government-shutdown</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs">https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs</a>
<a href="https://www.axios.com/local/boston/2025/04/29/patriots-plane-guantanamo">https://www.axios.com/local/boston/2025/04/29/patriots-plane-guantanamo</a>
<a href="https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/pats-team-plane-apparently-used-for-ice-deportation-flights">https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/pats-team-plane-apparently-used-for-ice-deportation-flights</a>
<a href="https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/29/new-england-patriots-charter-jet-guantanamo">https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/29/new-england-patriots-charter-jet-guantanamo</a>
<a href="https://apnews.com/article/ihan-omar-vinegar-attack-minneapolis-385a30eaf6acc40d6ba5c6c45c09304d">https://apnews.com/article/ihan-omar-vinegar-attack-minneapolis-385a30eaf6acc40d6ba5c6c45c09304d</a>

It Could Happen Here Weekly 217

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