Andrew talks with Gare about humankind’s better nature, despite self-fulfilling prophecies of selfishness and cruelty.
Sources:
Humankind by Rutger Bregman
A Paradise Built In Hell by Rebecca Solnit

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CZM Book Club: Girls Who Look Through Glass, by Alex Smith
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It Could Happen Here Weekly 223
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