Robert and Mia talk with famed No Fly List hacker maia arson crimew about the shady industry of stalkerware, spy software that allows people to spy on their victims' devices.

Original Air Date: 3.20.24

Robert and Mia talk with famed No Fly List hacker maia arson crimew about the shady industry of stalkerware, spy software that allows people to spy on their victims' devices.
Original Air Date: 3.20.24

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

CZM Rewind: Stalkerware ft. maia arson crimew

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/86f32103-f768-4b22-991a-b24f014c0691/transcript

James and Gare talk about the world of private maritime security, pirates, and the strait of Hormuz.

Sources:

https://www.register-iri.com/wp-content/uploads/MN-2-011-39.pdf

https://en.mercopress.com/2009/04/26/cruise-ship-melody-fended-off-a-pirate-attack 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/48821900?searchText=&searchUri=&ab_segments=&searchKey=&refreqid=fastly-default%3Aa5c02fb4e4aea98208bb9f0b37780d3b&initiator=recommender&seq=1 

https://abcnews.com/Business/International/pirates-attack-us-flagged-maersk-alabama/story?id=9114429 

https://www.ospreyobserver.com/2011/11/riverview-resident-receives-commemorative-knife-after-surviving-pirate-attack/

James and Gare talk about the world of private maritime security, pirates, and the strait of Hormuz.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.register-iri.com/wp-content/uploads/MN-2-011-39.pdf">https://www.register-iri.com/wp-content/uploads/MN-2-011-39.pdf</a>
<a href="https://en.mercopress.com/2009/04/26/cruise-ship-melody-fended-off-a-pirate-attack">https://en.mercopress.com/2009/04/26/cruise-ship-melody-fended-off-a-pirate-attack</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/48821900?searchText=&amp;searchUri=&amp;ab_segments=&amp;searchKey=&amp;refreqid=fastly-default%3Aa5c02fb4e4aea98208bb9f0b37780d3b&amp;initiator=recommender&amp;seq=1">https://www.jstor.org/stable/48821900?searchText=&amp;searchUri=&amp;ab_segments=&amp;searchKey=&amp;refreqid=fastly-default%3Aa5c02fb4e4aea98208bb9f0b37780d3b&amp;initiator=recommender&amp;seq=1</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://abcnews.com/Business/International/pirates-attack-us-flagged-maersk-alabama/story?id=9114429">https://abcnews.com/Business/International/pirates-attack-us-flagged-maersk-alabama/story?id=9114429</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.ospreyobserver.com/2011/11/riverview-resident-receives-commemorative-knife-after-surviving-pirate-attack/">https://www.ospreyobserver.com/2011/11/riverview-resident-receives-commemorative-knife-after-surviving-pirate-attack/</a>

Shipping Security in the Strait of Hormuz

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/029861fe-8b6b-4152-9e37-b40d002192b5/transcript

Margaret reads you a story about the magic embeded into the mundane

Margaret reads you a story about the magic embeded into the mundane

CZM Book Club: Girls Who Look Through Glass, by Alex Smith

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/c176a8d7-c135-46e5-9cab-b40d01848a01/transcript

The Clinton Epstein Deposition

Is the Economy About to Explode?

Criminalization of ICE Watch in Minneapolis

The Fake Crisis Behind Trump's Tariffs

Executive Disorder

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. 

- UFOs, Spies, and Pizzagate: The Clinton Epstein Deposition 

- Is the Economy About to Explode?

- Outlaw: Criminalization of ICE Watch in Minneapolis

- The Fake Crisis Behind Trump's Tariffs

- Executive Disorder: War on Iran, Kristi Noem, Sea Mines in the Strait of Hormuz, Proton Mail

You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today!

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Sources/Links:

UFOs, Spies, and Pizzagate: The Clinton Epstein Deposition

https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-clintons-must-be-held-accountable-for-refusing-to-comply-with-duly-issued-bipartisan-subpoenas/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiAk6WXc0M


https://www.cpr.org/2026/02/26/lauren-boebert-photo-hillary-clinton-pausing-epstein-deposition/


https://nypost.com/2026/03/03/us-news/hillary-clintons-team-demanded-beauty-lighting-for-oversight-deposition-was-wary-of-looking-like-a-hostage-source/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgJrYKAl6T0

Is the Economy About to Explode?

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/04/south-korea-stocks-kospi.html

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/persian-gulf-oil-squeeze-d9a39190

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/09/nikkei-225-hang-seng-index-kospi-crude-wti-brent-oil-futures-iran-war-gulf-hormuz.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/08/stock-market-today-live-updates.html

https://x.com/weijia/status/2031086856679412042?s=20

Outlaw: Criminalization of ICE Watch in Minneapolis

To learn more about how the law is used to crush dissent, check out the other episodes of Outlaw, an anti-repression podcast. Follow https://www.instagram.com/outlaw.pod/ on Instagram & @outlawpod.bsky.social Bluesky, & Substack https://outlawpodcast.substack.com/subscribe Get in touch: outlawpod@proton.me

Solidarity with Isavela: Support Her Legal Fight https://www.gofundme.com/f/solidarity-with-isavela-support-her-legal-fight

Follow Home Girlz 4 Isa to stay updated on her case https://www.instagram.com/homegirlz4isa

Help keep vulnerable Minneapolis neighbors housed: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need

The Fake Crisis Behind Trump's Tariffs

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/10/senate-democrats-bill-small-businesses-trump-tariffs

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/trumps-new-tariffs-shift-focus-balance-payments-economists-see-no-crisis-2026-02-24/

https://archive.vn/E3fwh#selection-479.0-482.0

https://www.toyassociation.org/PressRoom2/News/2026-News/court-orders-refunds-for-ieepa-tariffs-implementation-process-ongoing.aspx

https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2026/feb/us-dollar-role-as-reserve-currency

https://sudanreeves.org/2018/05/10/the-collapse-of-sudans-economy-is-accelerating-along-with-human-suffering/

https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/page-one-economics/2016/11/01/international-trade

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macroeconomics/ap-open-economy-international-trade-and-finance/the-balance-of-payments/a/the-balance-of-payments

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/bolivias-balance-payments-crisis-brings-back-bad-memories

https://www.elibrary.imf.org/display/book/9781557758286/ch02.xml

https://www.krwg.org/local-viewpoints/2026-03-10/scotus-decision-on-tariffs

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gov-healey-demands-refunds-mass-182527561.html

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5775500-businesses-sue-trump-tariffs/

https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/page-one-economics/2025/oct/what-is-the-balance-of-payments

https://www.investopedia.com/insights/what-is-the-balance-of-payments/

https://www.congress.gov/bill/93rd-congress/house-bill/10710/text

https://www.rba.gov.au/education/resources/explainers/the-balance-of-payments.html

https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-434-back-to-the-1970s-again

https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/files/docs/publications/frbslreview/rev_stls_196103.pdf

https://muse.jhu.edu/article/952314

https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/022/0003/003/article-A003-en.xml

https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3545&context=faculty_scholarship

Executive Disorder: War on Iran, Kristi Noem, Sea Mines in the Strait of Hormuz, Proton Mail

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-isis-supporters-charged-attempting-detonate-explosive-devices-during-protests-outside 

https://www.npr.org/2026/03/05/nx-s1-5737562/justice-department-missing-epstein-files-trump

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/09/trump-is-delaying-texas-senate-endorsement-to-pressure-gop-senators-on-save-america-act-00819991?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/president-trump-secures-historic-commitment-to-keep-electricity-costs-down-amid-data-center-boom/ 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-advances-energy-affordability-with-the-ratepayer-protection-pledge/ 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/ratepayer-protection-pledge/ 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/03/ratepayer-protection-pledge-proclamation/

https://newsroom.ap.org/editorial-photos-videos/detail?itemid=91c3f239c18349fdb409f901c50b7e71&mediatype=video

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-cuba-may-or-may-not-be-friendly-takeover-2026-03-09/

https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/03/cuba-trump-iran-venezuela/686203/ 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/06/politics/trump-cuba-marco-rubio-fall

https://archive.ph/n8IuV#selection-615.200-615.231

https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me/post/3mgfkfdazls2c

Shield of the Americas - Doral 2026 

https://x.com/Sec_Noem/status/2029647010002055467 

https://www.usaspeShield of the Americas - Doral 2026nding.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70CMSW25P00000055_7012_-NONE-_-NONE- 

https://fbodaily.com/archive/2025/08-August/21-Aug-2025/FBO-07556474.htm 

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2026/markwayne-mullin-smell-of-war/ 

​​https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/many-150-us-troops-wounded-so-far-iran-war-sources-say-2026-03-10/ 

https://x.com/Southcom/status/2030056869624955036?s=20 

https://x.com/SecWar/status/2029675198115401932?s=20 

https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2025/09/terrorist-designations-of-los-choneros-and-los-lobos 

https://x.com/Southcom/status/2029011785567572285?s=20 

https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/ 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/03/commitment-to-countering-cartel-criminal-activity/ 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/06/russia-iran-intelligence-us-targets/ 

https://hengaw.net/en/reports-and-statistics-1/2026/03/article-6 

https://x.com/BaxtiyarGoran/status/2031747170588577931?s=20 

https://www.patreon.com/posts/trump-model-for-152819826?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link 

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.&nbsp;
- UFOs, Spies, and Pizzagate: The Clinton Epstein Deposition&nbsp;
- Is the Economy About to Explode?
- Outlaw: Criminalization of ICE Watch in Minneapolis
- The Fake Crisis Behind Trump's Tariffs
- Executive Disorder: War on Iran, Kristi Noem, Sea Mines in the Strait of Hormuz, Proton Mail
You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for &ldquo;Cooler Zone Media&rdquo; and subscribe today!
<a href="http://apple.co/coolerzone">http://apple.co/coolerzone</a>
Sources/Links:
UFOs, Spies, and Pizzagate: The Clinton Epstein Deposition
<a href="https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-clintons-must-be-held-accountable-for-refusing-to-comply-with-duly-issued-bipartisan-subpoenas/">https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-clintons-must-be-held-accountable-for-refusing-to-comply-with-duly-issued-bipartisan-subpoenas/</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiAk6WXc0M">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siiAk6WXc0M </a>
<a href="https://www.cpr.org/2026/02/26/lauren-boebert-photo-hillary-clinton-pausing-epstein-deposition/">https://www.cpr.org/2026/02/26/lauren-boebert-photo-hillary-clinton-pausing-epstein-deposition/ </a>
<a href="https://nypost.com/2026/03/03/us-news/hillary-clintons-team-demanded-beauty-lighting-for-oversight-deposition-was-wary-of-looking-like-a-hostage-source/">https://nypost.com/2026/03/03/us-news/hillary-clintons-team-demanded-beauty-lighting-for-oversight-deposition-was-wary-of-looking-like-a-hostage-source/ </a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgJrYKAl6T0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgJrYKAl6T0</a>
Is the Economy About to Explode?
<a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/04/south-korea-stocks-kospi.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/04/south-korea-stocks-kospi.html</a>
<a href="https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/persian-gulf-oil-squeeze-d9a39190">https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/persian-gulf-oil-squeeze-d9a39190</a>
<a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/09/nikkei-225-hang-seng-index-kospi-crude-wti-brent-oil-futures-iran-war-gulf-hormuz.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/09/nikkei-225-hang-seng-index-kospi-crude-wti-brent-oil-futures-iran-war-gulf-hormuz.html</a>
<a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/08/stock-market-today-live-updates.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/08/stock-market-today-live-updates.html</a>
<a href="https://x.com/weijia/status/2031086856679412042?s=20">https://x.com/weijia/status/2031086856679412042?s=20</a>
Outlaw: Criminalization of ICE Watch in Minneapolis
To learn more about how the law is used to crush dissent, check out the other episodes of Outlaw, an anti-repression podcast. Follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/outlaw.pod/">https://www.instagram.com/outlaw.pod/</a> on Instagram &amp; @outlawpod.bsky.social Bluesky, &amp; Substack <a href="https://outlawpodcast.substack.com/subscribe">https://outlawpodcast.substack.com/subscribe</a>&nbsp;Get in touch: outlawpod@proton.me
Solidarity with Isavela: Support Her Legal Fight <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/solidarity-with-isavela-support-her-legal-fight">https://www.gofundme.com/f/solidarity-with-isavela-support-her-legal-fight</a>
Follow Home Girlz 4 Isa to stay updated on her case <a href="https://www.instagram.com/homegirlz4isa">https://www.instagram.com/homegirlz4isa</a>
Help keep vulnerable Minneapolis neighbors housed: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need</a>
The Fake Crisis Behind Trump's Tariffs
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/10/senate-democrats-bill-small-businesses-trump-tariffs">https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/10/senate-democrats-bill-small-businesses-trump-tariffs</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/trumps-new-tariffs-shift-focus-balance-payments-economists-see-no-crisis-2026-02-24/">https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/trumps-new-tariffs-shift-focus-balance-payments-economists-see-no-crisis-2026-02-24/</a>
<a href="https://archive.vn/E3fwh#selection-479.0-482.0">https://archive.vn/E3fwh#selection-479.0-482.0</a>
<a href="https://www.toyassociation.org/PressRoom2/News/2026-News/court-orders-refunds-for-ieepa-tariffs-implementation-process-ongoing.aspx">https://www.toyassociation.org/PressRoom2/News/2026-News/court-orders-refunds-for-ieepa-tariffs-implementation-process-ongoing.aspx</a>
<a href="https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2026/feb/us-dollar-role-as-reserve-currency">https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2026/feb/us-dollar-role-as-reserve-currency</a>
<a href="https://sudanreeves.org/2018/05/10/the-collapse-of-sudans-economy-is-accelerating-along-with-human-suffering/">https://sudanreeves.org/2018/05/10/the-collapse-of-sudans-economy-is-accelerating-along-with-human-suffering/</a>
<a href="https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/page-one-economics/2016/11/01/international-trade">https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/page-one-economics/2016/11/01/international-trade</a>
<a href="https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macroeconomics/ap-open-economy-international-trade-and-finance/the-balance-of-payments/a/the-balance-of-payments">https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macroeconomics/ap-open-economy-international-trade-and-finance/the-balance-of-payments/a/the-balance-of-payments</a>
<a href="https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/bolivias-balance-payments-crisis-brings-back-bad-memories">https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/bolivias-balance-payments-crisis-brings-back-bad-memories</a>
<a href="https://www.elibrary.imf.org/display/book/9781557758286/ch02.xml">https://www.elibrary.imf.org/display/book/9781557758286/ch02.xml</a>
<a href="https://www.krwg.org/local-viewpoints/2026-03-10/scotus-decision-on-tariffs">https://www.krwg.org/local-viewpoints/2026-03-10/scotus-decision-on-tariffs</a>
<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gov-healey-demands-refunds-mass-182527561.html">https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/gov-healey-demands-refunds-mass-182527561.html</a>
<a href="https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5775500-businesses-sue-trump-tariffs/">https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5775500-businesses-sue-trump-tariffs/</a>
<a href="https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/page-one-economics/2025/oct/what-is-the-balance-of-payments">https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/page-one-economics/2025/oct/what-is-the-balance-of-payments</a>
<a href="https://www.investopedia.com/insights/what-is-the-balance-of-payments/">https://www.investopedia.com/insights/what-is-the-balance-of-payments/</a>
<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/93rd-congress/house-bill/10710/text">https://www.congress.gov/bill/93rd-congress/house-bill/10710/text</a>
<a href="https://www.rba.gov.au/education/resources/explainers/the-balance-of-payments.html">https://www.rba.gov.au/education/resources/explainers/the-balance-of-payments.html</a>
<a href="https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-434-back-to-the-1970s-again">https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-434-back-to-the-1970s-again</a>
<a href="https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/files/docs/publications/frbslreview/rev_stls_196103.pdf">https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/files/docs/publications/frbslreview/rev_stls_196103.pdf</a>
<a href="https://muse.jhu.edu/article/952314">https://muse.jhu.edu/article/952314</a>
<a href="https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/022/0003/003/article-A003-en.xml">https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/022/0003/003/article-A003-en.xml</a>
<a href="https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3545&amp;context=faculty_scholarship">https://scholarship.law.columbia.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3545&amp;context=faculty_scholarship</a>
Executive Disorder: War on Iran, Kristi Noem, Sea Mines in the Strait of Hormuz, Proton Mail
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-isis-supporters-charged-attempting-detonate-explosive-devices-during-protests-outside">https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-isis-supporters-charged-attempting-detonate-explosive-devices-during-protests-outside</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/03/05/nx-s1-5737562/justice-department-missing-epstein-files-trump">https://www.npr.org/2026/03/05/nx-s1-5737562/justice-department-missing-epstein-files-trump</a>
<a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/09/trump-is-delaying-texas-senate-endorsement-to-pressure-gop-senators-on-save-america-act-00819991?utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_source=dlvr.it">https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/09/trump-is-delaying-texas-senate-endorsement-to-pressure-gop-senators-on-save-america-act-00819991?utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_source=dlvr.it</a>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/president-trump-secures-historic-commitment-to-keep-electricity-costs-down-amid-data-center-boom/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/president-trump-secures-historic-commitment-to-keep-electricity-costs-down-amid-data-center-boom/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-advances-energy-affordability-with-the-ratepayer-protection-pledge/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2026/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-advances-energy-affordability-with-the-ratepayer-protection-pledge/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/ratepayer-protection-pledge/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/ratepayer-protection-pledge/</a>&nbsp;
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