Former Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino travelled to a racist conference in Europe, James and Mia break down his interviews there and what it tells us about the culture of the agency he spent decades in.

Sources:

https://remigrationsummit.com/ 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought 

https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/ 

http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/ 

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf 

https://www.cbp.gov/about 

https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444 

https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7Y

Former Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino travelled to a racist conference in Europe, James and Mia break down his interviews there and what it tells us about the culture of the agency he spent decades in.
Sources:
<a href="https://remigrationsummit.com/">https://remigrationsummit.com/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/">https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/">http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf">https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.cbp.gov/about">https://www.cbp.gov/about</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444">https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7Y">https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7Y</a>

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

Bovino’s Visit to Europe

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The gang discuss election fraud claims in California, a pogrom targeting immigrants in Northern Ireland, DOJ investigations into healthcare for trans youth, new denaturalization cases against 17 people, and Greg Bovino’s potential 2028 presidential run. 

Sources: 

https://www.independent.com/2026/06/04/new-details-emerge-about-leadup-to-largest-fire-in-channel-islands-history/

https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-reports-19th-death-of-2026-georgian


https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.293201/gov.uscourts.mad.293201.106.0.pdf


https://x.com/JacobEngels/status/2062157399255847030?s=20 

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2026CF000289&countyNo=55&index=0&mode=details 

https://www.whois.com/whois/bovino2028.com 

https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2064422223541154065?s=20


https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text 

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/whats-in-the-secure-america-act/


https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/compromised-votes-still-being-counted-right-wing-media-promote-election-misinformation

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116690027934241490


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28199744-dorcasopn060526/ 

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-moves-strip-us-citizenship-17-naturalized-sex-offenders-fraudsters-drug 

https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-26-108886/index.html 

https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2026/06/25-5087-2176040.pdf


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-resolution-end-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-and


https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/


https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche


https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-parents-say-mount-sinai-plans-to-share-trans-childrens-records-with-trump-administration


https://gothamist.com/news/mamdani-admin-weighs-how-to-provide-care-for-nyc-trans-kids-amid-trump-backlash

https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/06/transcript--mayor-mamdani-appears-on-wnyc-s-the-brian-lehrer-sho


https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/metropolitan/services/lgbtq-health-center/  

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/14/us/julio-sosa-celis-ice-minneapolis-shooting.html 

https://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2026/May/castro-arrested

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064457103134343170?s=20 

https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2064393192162660733?s=20 

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064290478091067601?s=20 

https://t.co/lY0s8D3jZy 

https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/2064336646376505687?s=20 

https://x.com/Reuters/status/2064794729477447978?s=20

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/europe/northern-ireland-knife-attack-belfast-intl

https://bsky.app/profile/enddbelfast.bsky.social/post/3mnxbrtzgsk2y

The gang discuss election fraud claims in California, a pogrom targeting immigrants in Northern Ireland, DOJ investigations into healthcare for trans youth, new denaturalization cases against 17 people, and Greg Bovino&rsquo;s potential 2028 presidential run.&nbsp;
Sources:&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.independent.com/2026/06/04/new-details-emerge-about-leadup-to-largest-fire-in-channel-islands-history/">https://www.independent.com/2026/06/04/new-details-emerge-about-leadup-to-largest-fire-in-channel-islands-history/</a>
<a href="https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-reports-19th-death-of-2026-georgian">https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/ice-reports-19th-death-of-2026-georgian </a>
<a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.293201/gov.uscourts.mad.293201.106.0.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.293201/gov.uscourts.mad.293201.106.0.pdf </a>
<a href="https://x.com/JacobEngels/status/2062157399255847030?s=20">https://x.com/JacobEngels/status/2062157399255847030?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2026CF000289&amp;countyNo=55&amp;index=0&amp;mode=details">https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2026CF000289&amp;countyNo=55&amp;index=0&amp;mode=details</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.whois.com/whois/bovino2028.com">https://www.whois.com/whois/bovino2028.com</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2064422223541154065?s=20">https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2064422223541154065?s=20 </a><a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text"></a>
<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text">https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/2/text</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/whats-in-the-secure-america-act/">https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/whats-in-the-secure-america-act/</a> 
<a href="https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/compromised-votes-still-being-counted-right-wing-media-promote-election-misinformation">https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-trump/compromised-votes-still-being-counted-right-wing-media-promote-election-misinformation</a> 
<a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116690027934241490">https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116690027934241490 </a>
<a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28199744-dorcasopn060526/">https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28199744-dorcasopn060526/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-moves-strip-us-citizenship-17-naturalized-sex-offenders-fraudsters-drug">https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-moves-strip-us-citizenship-17-naturalized-sex-offenders-fraudsters-drug</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-26-108886/index.html">https://files.gao.gov/reports/GAO-26-108886/index.html</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2026/06/25-5087-2176040.pdf">https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2026/06/25-5087-2176040.pdf </a>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-resolution-end-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-and">https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-landmark-resolution-end-pediatric-gender-affirming-care-and </a><a href="https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/"></a>
<a href="https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/">https://www.acluok.org/news/senate-bill-904-faq/ </a><a href="https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche"></a>
<a href="https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche">https://www.aclu.org/qa-coe-et-al-v-blanche </a>
<a href="https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-parents-say-mount-sinai-plans-to-share-trans-childrens-records-with-trump-administration">https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-parents-say-mount-sinai-plans-to-share-trans-childrens-records-with-trump-administration </a>
<a href="https://gothamist.com/news/mamdani-admin-weighs-how-to-provide-care-for-nyc-trans-kids-amid-trump-backlash">https://gothamist.com/news/mamdani-admin-weighs-how-to-provide-care-for-nyc-trans-kids-amid-trump-backlash</a> 
<a href="https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/06/transcript--mayor-mamdani-appears-on-wnyc-s-the-brian-lehrer-sho">https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/06/transcript--mayor-mamdani-appears-on-wnyc-s-the-brian-lehrer-sho </a>
<a href="https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/metropolitan/services/lgbtq-health-center/">https://www.nychealthandhospitals.org/metropolitan/services/lgbtq-health-center/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/14/us/julio-sosa-celis-ice-minneapolis-shooting.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/14/us/julio-sosa-celis-ice-minneapolis-shooting.html</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2026/May/castro-arrested">https://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2026/May/castro-arrested</a> 
<a href="https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064457103134343170?s=20">https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064457103134343170?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2064393192162660733?s=20">https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/2064393192162660733?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064290478091067601?s=20">https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2064290478091067601?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://t.co/lY0s8D3jZy">https://t.co/lY0s8D3jZy</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/2064336646376505687?s=20">https://x.com/DanLamothe/status/2064336646376505687?s=20</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://x.com/Reuters/status/2064794729477447978?s=20">https://x.com/Reuters/status/2064794729477447978?s=20</a> 
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/europe/northern-ireland-knife-attack-belfast-intl">https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/europe/northern-ireland-knife-attack-belfast-intl</a>
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/enddbelfast.bsky.social/post/3mnxbrtzgsk2y">https://bsky.app/profile/enddbelfast.bsky.social/post/3mnxbrtzgsk2y</a>

Executive Disorder: Pogrom in Belfast, Trans Healthcare, Denaturalization Cases 

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Dana El Kurd speaks to Andrew Leber, assistant professor of political science and Middle East and North Africa politics, with an expertise in Saudi Arabia and the Arab Gulf states. Andrew outlines the different positions of the Gulf states in response to the ongoing war on Iran, the competing visions for the region posed by the UAE and Saudi Arabia, and the role of Israel in their calculations. 

Sources:

Andrew Leber’s profile and articles - https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber 

How Palestine is linked to domestic grievances - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567

Dana El Kurd speaks to Andrew Leber, assistant professor of political science and Middle East and North Africa politics, with an expertise in Saudi Arabia and the Arab Gulf states. Andrew outlines the different positions of the Gulf states in response to the ongoing war on Iran, the competing visions for the region posed by the UAE and Saudi Arabia, and the role of Israel in their calculations.&nbsp;
Sources:
Andrew Leber&rsquo;s profile and articles - <a href="https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="80658420-124a-4674-a724-64be2c2554d7">https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber</a>&nbsp;
How Palestine is linked to domestic grievances - <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="7a1f98a8-1157-44f6-b8c7-38caec3ad6ab">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567</a>

The Arab Gulf States in the Line of Fire

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Andrew talks with Garrison about how the jailing of political prisoners in Spain  inadvertently sparked the Filipino labor movement and helped globalize the anti-imperialist struggle of the late 19th and early 20th century.

Andrew talks with Garrison about how the jailing of political prisoners in Spain&nbsp; inadvertently sparked the Filipino labor movement and helped globalize the anti-imperialist struggle of the late 19th and early 20th century.

The Globalization of Resistance with Andrew

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