Andrew sits down with Gare and James to explain the history of borders and how states have used them to control people

Andrew sits down with Gare and James to explain the history of borders and how states have used them to control people

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

Borders with Andrew

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/54e33c57-b895-4724-8f86-af2c00069093/transcript

Margaret reads you part two (of two) of her own story.

Margaret reads you part two (of two) of her own story.

CZM Book Club: Everything that Isn't Winter, by Margaret Killjoy, Part Two

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/e6660bca-a295-4808-9c53-b3c1001195e3/transcript

In the first of five episodes, James describes his journey to the Darién gap in Southern Panama, and the journeys that thousands of migrants take each week on one of the most dangerous land migration routes on earth.

Original Air Date: 10.28.24

Sources:

https://www.notiparole.com

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaDkSwh1Jk/?igsh=bmgyanBteW10czd5

https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/20/archives/a-new-canaldug-by-atom-bombs-nuclear-energy-is-the-key-to-replacing.html

https://www.themanual.com/outdoors/darien-gap-feature/

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/18/panama-darien-gap-jose-raul-mulino

https://americasquarterly.org/article/the-darien-gaps-fearsome-reputation-has-been-centuries-in-the-making/

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/10/27/the-darien-gap-a-deadly-extension-of-the-us-border

https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/supporting_resources/jmhs.pdf

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/20/snakes-swamps-whisky-british-explorers-went-ultimate-boys-adventure/

https://www.strausscenter.org/publications/asylum-processing-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-august-2024/

https://www.gob.mx/inm/prensa/el-gobierno-mexicano-y-el-inm-articulan-corredor-emergente-de-movilidad-segura-para-el-traslado-de-personas-extranjeras-con-cita-cbp-one

https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-23/kidnapping-and-escape-of-95-ecuadorian-migrants-in-chiapas-if-you-continue-informing-we-will-return-them-in-bags.html

https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Asylum-Policies-Harm-Black-Asylum-Seekers-FACTSHEET-formatted.pdf

https://respondcrisistranslation.org/en/newsb/cbp-ones-obscene-language-errors-create-more-barriers-for-asylum-seekers

https://www.msf.org/lack-action-sees-sharp-rise-sexual-violence-people-transiting-darien-gap-panama

In the first of five episodes, James describes his journey to the Dari&eacute;n gap in Southern Panama, and the journeys that thousands of migrants take each week on one of the most dangerous land migration routes on earth.
Original Air Date: 10.28.24
Sources:
<a href="https://www.notiparole.com" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="05469464-63d5-41d3-b7f4-dbc97aa01b8e">https://www.notiparole.com</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaDkSwh1Jk/?igsh=bmgyanBteW10czd5" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="36ca1c0e-3a99-469b-b302-cf7e7226e606">https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaDkSwh1Jk/?igsh=bmgyanBteW10czd5</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/20/archives/a-new-canaldug-by-atom-bombs-nuclear-energy-is-the-key-to-replacing.html" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="46d83a64-76ae-4acf-b813-c8001428d0a1">https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/20/archives/a-new-canaldug-by-atom-bombs-nuclear-energy-is-the-key-to-replacing.html</a>
<a href="https://www.themanual.com/outdoors/darien-gap-feature/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="8106c760-0d4a-426f-99ed-fd7b6f367395">https://www.themanual.com/outdoors/darien-gap-feature/</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/18/panama-darien-gap-jose-raul-mulino" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="131c8d68-36f2-4555-8f3e-18f6a297fefd">https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/18/panama-darien-gap-jose-raul-mulino</a>
<a href="https://americasquarterly.org/article/the-darien-gaps-fearsome-reputation-has-been-centuries-in-the-making/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="fe22b786-20d1-47f4-938c-832dacc2b0b8">https://americasquarterly.org/article/the-darien-gaps-fearsome-reputation-has-been-centuries-in-the-making/</a>
<a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/10/27/the-darien-gap-a-deadly-extension-of-the-us-border" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="cc434d8e-7cf8-4770-92df-d4848d7a9529">https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/10/27/the-darien-gap-a-deadly-extension-of-the-us-border</a>
<a href="https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/supporting_resources/jmhs.pdf" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="b97b5ee6-8eb8-48da-be5d-645bdf1682c0">https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/supporting_resources/jmhs.pdf</a>
<a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/20/snakes-swamps-whisky-british-explorers-went-ultimate-boys-adventure/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="8e126441-ff4c-4e7c-ad01-b52a0f782e5e">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/20/snakes-swamps-whisky-british-explorers-went-ultimate-boys-adventure/</a>
<a href="https://www.strausscenter.org/publications/asylum-processing-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-august-2024/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="52b414ed-875c-40f2-b135-38a032107ddd">https://www.strausscenter.org/publications/asylum-processing-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-august-2024/</a>
<a href="https://www.gob.mx/inm/prensa/el-gobierno-mexicano-y-el-inm-articulan-corredor-emergente-de-movilidad-segura-para-el-traslado-de-personas-extranjeras-con-cita-cbp-one" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="d0aa546a-6c5a-4a72-af9d-f836d745c825">https://www.gob.mx/inm/prensa/el-gobierno-mexicano-y-el-inm-articulan-corredor-emergente-de-movilidad-segura-para-el-traslado-de-personas-extranjeras-con-cita-cbp-one</a>
<a href="https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-23/kidnapping-and-escape-of-95-ecuadorian-migrants-in-chiapas-if-you-continue-informing-we-will-return-them-in-bags.html" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="cfe86fe6-9617-4ddb-8d1b-af710563ce7f">https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-23/kidnapping-and-escape-of-95-ecuadorian-migrants-in-chiapas-if-you-continue-informing-we-will-return-them-in-bags.html</a>
<a href="https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Asylum-Policies-Harm-Black-Asylum-Seekers-FACTSHEET-formatted.pdf" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="662b6583-14e8-4846-a5df-9c3f373c68a0">https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Asylum-Policies-Harm-Black-Asylum-Seekers-FACTSHEET-formatted.pdf</a>
<a href="https://respondcrisistranslation.org/en/newsb/cbp-ones-obscene-language-errors-create-more-barriers-for-asylum-seekers" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ec56a1a2-4eb1-4264-8877-3d796c49650f">https://respondcrisistranslation.org/en/newsb/cbp-ones-obscene-language-errors-create-more-barriers-for-asylum-seekers</a>
<a href="https://www.msf.org/lack-action-sees-sharp-rise-sexual-violence-people-transiting-darien-gap-panama" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="a369a72b-9208-409e-ac89-b7698b605d0f">https://www.msf.org/lack-action-sees-sharp-rise-sexual-violence-people-transiting-darien-gap-panama</a>

CZM Rewind: The Green Hell: Migration Through the Darién Gap

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/f3c32bc2-5de4-41e2-a95a-b3b6016919f0/transcript

Mia talks about the new Abundance movement, its ideas and how it operates as a Trojan horse for its funders Peter Thiel and the Koch Brothers.

Orignal Air Date: 9.9.25

Sources:

https://thebaffler.com/latest/whats-the-matter-with-abundance-harris?ref=newintermag.com

https://newintermag.com/abundance-big-techs-bid-for-the-democratic-party/#fn16

https://archive.vn/zgPJ8

https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Abundance-Ecosystem-Report-Final.pdf

https://www.semafor.com/article/08/17/2025/with-the-argument-the-left-gets-a-new-publication

http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2022/01/washingtons-newest-think-tank-institute.html

https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism

https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/

https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis

https://www.abundancedc.org/speakers

https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis

https://archive.vn/GKRmw#selection-377.0-377.19

https://www.theargumentmag.com/about

https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/dc-attorney-general-inks-first-settlement-realpage-price-fixing-lawsuit-2025-06-02/

https://www.economicliberties.us/press-release/economic-liberties-launches-2025-end-rental-price-fixing-campaign/

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/17/the-cost-of-anticompetitive-pricing-algorithms-in-rental-housing/

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters

https://techfascism.substack.com/p/the-network-state-and-infrastructure

Mia talks about the new Abundance movement, its ideas and how it operates as a Trojan horse for its funders Peter Thiel and the Koch Brothers.
Orignal Air Date: 9.9.25
Sources:
<a href="https://thebaffler.com/latest/whats-the-matter-with-abundance-harris?ref=newintermag.com" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="eb4ca10f-8997-4436-bc62-99627567331b">https://thebaffler.com/latest/whats-the-matter-with-abundance-harris?ref=newintermag.com</a>
<a href="https://newintermag.com/abundance-big-techs-bid-for-the-democratic-party/#fn16" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="dbee7002-e304-48e3-8242-80f619766df2">https://newintermag.com/abundance-big-techs-bid-for-the-democratic-party/#fn16</a>
<a href="https://archive.vn/zgPJ8" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="c781478c-7ac2-4e4d-a72a-c60c64502d32">https://archive.vn/zgPJ8</a>
<a href="https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Abundance-Ecosystem-Report-Final.pdf" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="4efcf235-9b99-4c52-bea8-3882dba73e64">https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Abundance-Ecosystem-Report-Final.pdf</a>
<a href="https://www.semafor.com/article/08/17/2025/with-the-argument-the-left-gets-a-new-publication" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="ebf0beac-5275-4d99-9728-af3d9a5080be">https://www.semafor.com/article/08/17/2025/with-the-argument-the-left-gets-a-new-publication</a>
<a href="http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2022/01/washingtons-newest-think-tank-institute.html" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="02dce182-703c-432d-bfdc-37ca411c8214">http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2022/01/washingtons-newest-think-tank-institute.html</a>
<a href="https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="eb148a41-ad28-4c57-a4ac-a923d76fe25a">https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism</a>
<a href="https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="d58380d7-65e1-42f3-9c09-f1d585ae5c2e">https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/</a>
<a href="https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="f43a53cf-79e9-4aed-a9e2-a979b71e5e02">https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis</a>
<a href="https://www.abundancedc.org/speakers" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="017b746a-250e-493b-93a8-c592f772f56f">https://www.abundancedc.org/speakers</a>
<a href="https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="026246d1-6ca1-4fe0-8e9d-ba08758b9e58">https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis</a>
<a href="https://archive.vn/GKRmw#selection-377.0-377.19" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="67812499-6540-4347-96e1-1cb945f40730">https://archive.vn/GKRmw#selection-377.0-377.19</a>
<a href="https://www.theargumentmag.com/about" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="1fe50121-cd02-4cb5-8564-89d7e06229ab">https://www.theargumentmag.com/about</a>
<a href="https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="d81c977d-db8a-4fc9-94dc-22303e1fdc4c">https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/</a>
<a href="https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/dc-attorney-general-inks-first-settlement-realpage-price-fixing-lawsuit-2025-06-02/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="a6fff789-3224-4180-9904-29c5e9b57952">https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/dc-attorney-general-inks-first-settlement-realpage-price-fixing-lawsuit-2025-06-02/</a>
<a href="https://www.economicliberties.us/press-release/economic-liberties-launches-2025-end-rental-price-fixing-campaign/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="1306d546-b963-480d-8ac8-fa53217d2a11">https://www.economicliberties.us/press-release/economic-liberties-launches-2025-end-rental-price-fixing-campaign/</a>
<a href="https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/17/the-cost-of-anticompetitive-pricing-algorithms-in-rental-housing/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="a8af16c0-1ff2-418b-8b47-fde55a20b245">https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/17/the-cost-of-anticompetitive-pricing-algorithms-in-rental-housing/</a>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="c964ee89-5ce0-432d-946c-44a5ed1b8c36">https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters</a>
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="661c75ee-0183-45fa-bb29-03d888edd60d">https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters</a>
<a href="https://techfascism.substack.com/p/the-network-state-and-infrastructure" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="57a27208-1a1f-41f5-8a30-cac234c2a47e">https://techfascism.substack.com/p/the-network-state-and-infrastructure</a>

CZM Rewind: Abundance, Or How To Sell Tech Fascism To Liberals

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/fdf6d344-cfe2-4c8b-956e-b3b60169028a/transcript

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