James sits down with Frances to hear firsthand what it is like for families of people in the asylum system right now and how even U.S. citizens can have their families torn apart by the Trump administration’s anti-asylum policies. 

Sources: 
https://x.com/ConsulMexCho/status/1966636249910738951  


https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/09/12/dhs-statement-ice-officer-seriously-injured-line-duty-and-shooting-chicago-during  


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James sits down with Frances to hear firsthand what it is like for families of people in the asylum system right now and how even U.S. citizens can have their families torn apart by the Trump administration&rsquo;s anti-asylum policies.&nbsp;
Sources:&nbsp; <a href="https://x.com/ConsulMexCho/status/1966636249910738951">https://x.com/ConsulMexCho/status/1966636249910738951</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/09/12/dhs-statement-ice-officer-seriously-injured-line-duty-and-shooting-chicago-during"></a>
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<a href="https://unraveledpress.com/what-happened-to-silverio-villegas-gonzalez/">https://unraveledpress.com/what-happened-to-silverio-villegas-gonzalez/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.284773/gov.uscourts.dcd.284773.37.0_2.pdf"></a>
<a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.284773/gov.uscourts.dcd.284773.37.0_2.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.284773/gov.uscourts.dcd.284773.37.0_2.pdf</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.284773/gov.uscourts.dcd.284773.41.0.pdf"></a>
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<a href="https://calmatters.org/inside-the-newsroom/2025/04/calmatters-partners-with-evident-media-on-a-documentary-exposing-truth-behind-border-patrol-raid/">https://calmatters.org/inside-the-newsroom/2025/04/calmatters-partners-with-evident-media-on-a-documentary-exposing-truth-behind-border-patrol-raid/</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/09/16/us/tyler-robinson-charges.html"></a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/09/16/us/tyler-robinson-charges.html">https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/09/16/us/tyler-robinson-charges.html</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie">https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/17/business/media/abc-jimmy-kimmel.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/17/business/media/abc-jimmy-kimmel.html</a>&nbsp;

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