The gang talks about the pronatalist right in Trump's orbit, and historical examples of pronatalism from Japan, Spain, and Romania.

Sources:

https://www.vscw.ca/en/node/119

https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9780203059913-9/pronatalism-motherhood-franco-spain-mary-nash

https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9781438402062/html?lang=en

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15335899

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/237296749_Marriage_squeeze_and_changes_in_family_formation_historical_comparative_evidence_in_Spain_France_and_the_United_States_in_the_twentieth_century  

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ypdy05jl9o
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/trump-birthrate-proposals.html
https://www.heritage.org/marriage-and-family/report/treating-infertility-the-new-frontier-reproductive-medicine 
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/3/2/2155893/-Texas-Republican-channels-Stalin-and-Putin-to-glorify-motherhood 
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dot-memo-funds-communities-marriage-birth-rates_n_679bf8d8e4b0e1faebeef9c8

The gang talks about the pronatalist right in Trump's orbit, and historical examples of pronatalism from Japan, Spain, and Romania.
Sources:
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