This is Vision Australia Radio's midsummer Festival. Carnival day live outside broadcast.

This is Vision Australia Radio's midsummer Festival. Carnival day live outside broadcast.

Are coming up, so you better get this party started.

Are coming up, so you better get this party started.

From Alexandra Gardens in Melbourne across the Vision Australia radio network. Visit midsummer for more.

From Alexandra Gardens in Melbourne across the Vision Australia radio network. Visit midsummer for more.

Welcome to our two music interviews and news coming your way. My name is Sam Colley and I'm here with an absolute icon of the community, Karen Negrini. For the next hour on Vision Australia Radio, joining us for the live Midsummer Outside broadcast from the Alexandra Gardens. So, Karen, it's so great to be here with you. Sam, did you just call.

Welcome to our two music interviews and news coming your way. My name is Sam Colley and I'm here with an absolute icon of the community, Karen Negrini. For the next hour on Vision Australia Radio, joining us for the live Midsummer Outside broadcast from the Alexandra Gardens. So, Karen, it's so great to be here with you. Sam, did you just call.

Me an icon?

Me an icon?

I did.

I did.

Wow. Okay, I think I'm going to get that as a tattoo. That is incredible. Thank you. I'm so flattered and so humbled at the same time.

Wow. Okay, I think I'm going to get that as a tattoo. That is incredible. Thank you. I'm so flattered and so humbled at the same time.

Ah, no worries at all. But, um, Karen, I think, um, let's have a bit of a chat before we, um, you know, get into things. Um, let's, um, go a bit of an overview of your journey from, you know, from day one right up to now where we are today.

Ah, no worries at all. But, um, Karen, I think, um, let's have a bit of a chat before we, um, you know, get into things. Um, let's, um, go a bit of an overview of your journey from, you know, from day one right up to now where we are today.

That's a really loaded question.

That's a really loaded question.

I know.

I know.

Right? Because honestly, I do not recognize the person I was before I started my work as an advocate. I was so timid and shy. And, you know, I often refer to it as being in the disability closet because I just wanted to hide my blindness as much as I could. And then I reached a stage where I could no longer do that. And after a lot of work, I really embraced my blindness. And it's a funny thing to say, but I feel like the blinder I got, the better I started to see myself. And now, like I said, I just feel like a different person. And I feel so. Look, I'm not going to lie, being blind is not the best thing, but I've learned to live with it and make the most out of life. And I just want other blind people to know, you know, if you're struggling, I promise you it gets better.

Right? Because honestly, I do not recognize the person I was before I started my work as an advocate. I was so timid and shy. And, you know, I often refer to it as being in the disability closet because I just wanted to hide my blindness as much as I could. And then I reached a stage where I could no longer do that. And after a lot of work, I really embraced my blindness. And it's a funny thing to say, but I feel like the blinder I got, the better I started to see myself. And now, like I said, I just feel like a different person. And I feel so. Look, I'm not going to lie, being blind is not the best thing, but I've learned to live with it and make the most out of life. And I just want other blind people to know, you know, if you're struggling, I promise you it gets better.

Oh, it certainly does. But, um, what's it been like to be an advocate over the past few years?

Oh, it certainly does. But, um, what's it been like to be an advocate over the past few years?

It started by accident, to be honest with you. So I have a background in marketing and communications and graphic design, which was a strange career to pick, knowing I'd be going blind. Uh, but it's when I had to retire and I say retire in air quotes because I had to retire because I was making mistakes, not because of incompetence, but just because I couldn't see things anymore. And I just started this Instagram account as a little way to release some pressure that I was, you know, internalizing about not being able to do this as a career anymore. And then little did I know that, you know, people started to follow me, and then they wanted to hear more from me. and that that's essentially how it all started. And now, you know, I feel blessed to say I've got thousands of followers from all around the world that actually want to listen to a blind person and want to see what a blind person does every day.

It started by accident, to be honest with you. So I have a background in marketing and communications and graphic design, which was a strange career to pick, knowing I'd be going blind. Uh, but it's when I had to retire and I say retire in air quotes because I had to retire because I was making mistakes, not because of incompetence, but just because I couldn't see things anymore. And I just started this Instagram account as a little way to release some pressure that I was, you know, internalizing about not being able to do this as a career anymore. And then little did I know that, you know, people started to follow me, and then they wanted to hear more from me. and that that's essentially how it all started. And now, you know, I feel blessed to say I've got thousands of followers from all around the world that actually want to listen to a blind person and want to see what a blind person does every day.

And finally, Karen, before we head into our first song, what's your role going to be across the Midsummer Carnival?

And finally, Karen, before we head into our first song, what's your role going to be across the Midsummer Carnival?

That is a beautiful question. So this is my second year as the community ambassador for midsummer. What that means is my job is to help midsummer make the festival more inclusive and more, uh, more at home for people that are blind or live with a disability in general. Obviously, I can only represent people that are blind or hearing impaired, but that is that is. The simple answer is to make midsummer a beautiful, safe, loving place for people that are blind.

That is a beautiful question. So this is my second year as the community ambassador for midsummer. What that means is my job is to help midsummer make the festival more inclusive and more, uh, more at home for people that are blind or live with a disability in general. Obviously, I can only represent people that are blind or hearing impaired, but that is that is. The simple answer is to make midsummer a beautiful, safe, loving place for people that are blind.

And I must say, it's been, you know, quite a range of stand out moments having you on talking vision over the years. It's, um, it's been very exciting to, um, you know, chat to you before you headed up to the Blind Australian of the year awards. People may have heard you, um, emceeing the awards up there. That was quite amazing to have that opportunity and head up to Brisbane and all that sort of thing.

And I must say, it's been, you know, quite a range of stand out moments having you on talking vision over the years. It's, um, it's been very exciting to, um, you know, chat to you before you headed up to the Blind Australian of the year awards. People may have heard you, um, emceeing the awards up there. That was quite amazing to have that opportunity and head up to Brisbane and all that sort of thing.

I know I feel like you and I are buddies, like, even though we haven't met in person that often, but I feel like we've spoken so many times, but it's such a fun feeling to be on the other side for a change. Like, normally I'm the one being interviewed, but today I get to interview with you and you're here to help me out in case I stuff up and I get to learn from an expert.

I know I feel like you and I are buddies, like, even though we haven't met in person that often, but I feel like we've spoken so many times, but it's such a fun feeling to be on the other side for a change. Like, normally I'm the one being interviewed, but today I get to interview with you and you're here to help me out in case I stuff up and I get to learn from an expert.

Well, you're not going to stuff up at all, Karen. I don't think that's possible. I think you're an absolute pro. And, um, you know, it's coming up to, I guess, six years of being involved with, um, radio and talking vision. So, you know, that's that's been an absolute pleasure to, you know, have so many important conversations on Vision Australia Radio. Um, especially with our, um, community of interest in mind, people out in the world with print disabilities and people who are blind or have low vision. So, you know, what does that sort of, um, mean for you to have those sort of, um, services for, you know, for yourself as somebody who is, um, legally blind and needs to sort of, um, access, you know, services in, you know, different ways and, you know, read the newspaper or stay up to date with all the news out there.

Well, you're not going to stuff up at all, Karen. I don't think that's possible. I think you're an absolute pro. And, um, you know, it's coming up to, I guess, six years of being involved with, um, radio and talking vision. So, you know, that's that's been an absolute pleasure to, you know, have so many important conversations on Vision Australia Radio. Um, especially with our, um, community of interest in mind, people out in the world with print disabilities and people who are blind or have low vision. So, you know, what does that sort of, um, mean for you to have those sort of, um, services for, you know, for yourself as somebody who is, um, legally blind and needs to sort of, um, access, you know, services in, you know, different ways and, you know, read the newspaper or stay up to date with all the news out there.

Look, I'm not just going to say this because I'm here with you guys, but I feel like Vision Australia, organizations like Vision Australia are life changing for people like us. Because growing up, you don't really think you know, at least back when I was younger, I didn't really think that someone would care enough about a blind person to do things like this. And now to be here with an organization that's doing that, helping people, that struggles, I can relate. It's just it's a beautiful feeling. It's just a beautiful feeling. Now.

Look, I'm not just going to say this because I'm here with you guys, but I feel like Vision Australia, organizations like Vision Australia are life changing for people like us. Because growing up, you don't really think you know, at least back when I was younger, I didn't really think that someone would care enough about a blind person to do things like this. And now to be here with an organization that's doing that, helping people, that struggles, I can relate. It's just it's a beautiful feeling. It's just a beautiful feeling. Now.

I think what we're actually going to do is head over to an interview with Karen and, um, you know, Karen. Karen, take it away. I'd love to hear from you both.

I think what we're actually going to do is head over to an interview with Karen and, um, you know, Karen. Karen, take it away. I'd love to hear from you both.

Hello, Karen. Thank you so, so much for being here.

Hello, Karen. Thank you so, so much for being here.

Thrilled to be here.

Thrilled to be here.

Well, let's let's start things off, because you're a really busy, busy person today. So I just want to ask you first. Well, firstly. Happy midsummer.

Well, let's let's start things off, because you're a really busy, busy person today. So I just want to ask you first. Well, firstly. Happy midsummer.

Happy midsummer.

Happy midsummer.

Thank you, thank you. How many years has midsummer now been going for?

Thank you, thank you. How many years has midsummer now been going for?

It's been going for 37 years. So it really is an iconic event in Melbourne's calendar and the nation's queer calendar. Um, and I just think every year it gets stronger and stronger.

It's been going for 37 years. So it really is an iconic event in Melbourne's calendar and the nation's queer calendar. Um, and I just think every year it gets stronger and stronger.

That that I can second that. Look, I've only been in Melbourne for about two and a half years now, and I can just see everything you're saying. There's there's so much merit there. Now, look, I'm going to ask this question on behalf of every blind person. Why? I mean, obviously I'm so happy that you're doing this, but why is midsummer doing everything it can to make the festival safe for blind people? And the reason I ask you this, Karen, is because in the disability sector, I guess blind people often feel ignored. Sam, I don't know if you agree with that.

That that I can second that. Look, I've only been in Melbourne for about two and a half years now, and I can just see everything you're saying. There's there's so much merit there. Now, look, I'm going to ask this question on behalf of every blind person. Why? I mean, obviously I'm so happy that you're doing this, but why is midsummer doing everything it can to make the festival safe for blind people? And the reason I ask you this, Karen, is because in the disability sector, I guess blind people often feel ignored. Sam, I don't know if you agree with that.

Mhm. Can't happen.

Mhm. Can't happen.

Yeah. So, Karen, tell me what what has made midsummer do this.

Yeah. So, Karen, tell me what what has made midsummer do this.

Um, I'm going to give you two answers. The first is and it's a general one, but it's true. Um, midsummer, um, believes really strongly in making sure that we're creating a festival that is as welcoming and accessible to everybody. Um, and our communities are incredibly diverse. And so, you know, we want to be a festival that's all ages, all cultures, all faiths or geographical locations. So we've reached out more to the regions. All, you know, life stages. And so that that's sort of a starting point for us is how we can include everyone. But then we also, um, eight years ago now, we identified a range of strategic priorities, which was who was missing. So we did a bit of a, you know, a look around, talking to lots of people who wasn't coming, um, and prioritize those groups that weren't, um, to try and actually find out why, but also to put in place strategies for how we would deal with that. Disability was one of those. Um, and of course, as you would know, disability itself is multiple different intersectional communities. Correct. So we then um, rather than try and take a scattergun approach, we really tried to partner with certain parts of the community so that we could do so in a really deep and meaningful way. And we also wanted to make sure that we weren't, um, you know, going, oh, well, we'll deal with the deaf community this year and next year we'll we won't do with them. We'll do with the blind community, which is.

Um, I'm going to give you two answers. The first is and it's a general one, but it's true. Um, midsummer, um, believes really strongly in making sure that we're creating a festival that is as welcoming and accessible to everybody. Um, and our communities are incredibly diverse. And so, you know, we want to be a festival that's all ages, all cultures, all faiths or geographical locations. So we've reached out more to the regions. All, you know, life stages. And so that that's sort of a starting point for us is how we can include everyone. But then we also, um, eight years ago now, we identified a range of strategic priorities, which was who was missing. So we did a bit of a, you know, a look around, talking to lots of people who wasn't coming, um, and prioritize those groups that weren't, um, to try and actually find out why, but also to put in place strategies for how we would deal with that. Disability was one of those. Um, and of course, as you would know, disability itself is multiple different intersectional communities. Correct. So we then um, rather than try and take a scattergun approach, we really tried to partner with certain parts of the community so that we could do so in a really deep and meaningful way. And we also wanted to make sure that we weren't, um, you know, going, oh, well, we'll deal with the deaf community this year and next year we'll we won't do with them. We'll do with the blind community, which is.

What happens.

What happens.

Normally. Right? So we kind of went every every time we reach out, we need to be going, okay. This is a long, long term community engagement that needs to continue, and we need to find the resources to add one every year. Absolutely. And so I think that that's really enabled us over the last couple of years. Blind and low vision has been a priority at one of those that we've really partnered with and and looked at how we could expand. You're a very big part of that. Oh thank you. And, you know, and that's a multi-year commitment from us to to make sure that, you know, not only are we finding out what we need to do and doing it, but that we're making sure that people know that that's going to be there and it's not going to be taken away, and that they can trust that, you know, that the experience of of going to an event and having the support structures, we know we don't get everything right every year and we'll continue to learn. Yeah. Um, but it's it's something we're incredibly passionate about.

Normally. Right? So we kind of went every every time we reach out, we need to be going, okay. This is a long, long term community engagement that needs to continue, and we need to find the resources to add one every year. Absolutely. And so I think that that's really enabled us over the last couple of years. Blind and low vision has been a priority at one of those that we've really partnered with and and looked at how we could expand. You're a very big part of that. Oh thank you. And, you know, and that's a multi-year commitment from us to to make sure that, you know, not only are we finding out what we need to do and doing it, but that we're making sure that people know that that's going to be there and it's not going to be taken away, and that they can trust that, you know, that the experience of of going to an event and having the support structures, we know we don't get everything right every year and we'll continue to learn. Yeah. Um, but it's it's something we're incredibly passionate about.

And Sam, I was there at the launch, the program launch that took place. And Karen's not just saying this. They actually practice what they preach.

And Sam, I was there at the launch, the program launch that took place. And Karen's not just saying this. They actually practice what they preach.

Oh for.

Oh for.

Sure. Every person that got on stage described it, described themselves. It was room descriptions. There was Auslan. It was just it felt like such a beautiful place to be where everyone felt included, no doubt. You know, and the theme this year is collective identities. And that's exactly what it felt like. Yeah.

Sure. Every person that got on stage described it, described themselves. It was room descriptions. There was Auslan. It was just it felt like such a beautiful place to be where everyone felt included, no doubt. You know, and the theme this year is collective identities. And that's exactly what it felt like. Yeah.

And the beauty there I was actually reflecting on this the other day because I was at another event which I was talking at, and of course, nobody there. It wasn't a midsummer event that nobody there was describing their clothes. And of course, when I got up to speak, the first thing I did was describe who I looked like, who I was, what I was wearing, and it suddenly made me realise that the more we do that, the more like I will do that wherever I go now, whether it's midsummer or not, and so will other speakers who have we've engaged and then people who hear me do it ask, why did you do that and explain it? So I think it cascades out.

And the beauty there I was actually reflecting on this the other day because I was at another event which I was talking at, and of course, nobody there. It wasn't a midsummer event that nobody there was describing their clothes. And of course, when I got up to speak, the first thing I did was describe who I looked like, who I was, what I was wearing, and it suddenly made me realise that the more we do that, the more like I will do that wherever I go now, whether it's midsummer or not, and so will other speakers who have we've engaged and then people who hear me do it ask, why did you do that and explain it? So I think it cascades out.

Yeah. And the fun thing, Karen, is like, you can get up on stage and be like, I look like Cindy Crawford. And people will just believe you.

Yeah. And the fun thing, Karen, is like, you can get up on stage and be like, I look like Cindy Crawford. And people will just believe you.

I wish I could get away with that.

I wish I could get away with that.

You can. You can get.

You can. You can get.

Away with anything. Now, for those of you that can't see us, obviously, because we're on the radio, that wasn't a blind pun. Uh, Karen, I would love for you to describe my cane to our listeners.

Away with anything. Now, for those of you that can't see us, obviously, because we're on the radio, that wasn't a blind pun. Uh, Karen, I would love for you to describe my cane to our listeners.

Absolutely. And it is incredibly amazing. At the moment, it's all folded down. Um, and so, you know, it's one of those wonderful canes that is easy to carry around because it folds down into not quite a matchstick, but almost. And then, um, when you fold it out, it becomes, you know, the practical, uh, instrument that it is. It's full of sparkles. There is not one part of it that isn't sparkly, other than a little white knob at the end, which is for touching the ground and giving you some stability. But it's got a red section, a whole lot of silver sparkly sections for the majority of it, and then a black handle.

Absolutely. And it is incredibly amazing. At the moment, it's all folded down. Um, and so, you know, it's one of those wonderful canes that is easy to carry around because it folds down into not quite a matchstick, but almost. And then, um, when you fold it out, it becomes, you know, the practical, uh, instrument that it is. It's full of sparkles. There is not one part of it that isn't sparkly, other than a little white knob at the end, which is for touching the ground and giving you some stability. But it's got a red section, a whole lot of silver sparkly sections for the majority of it, and then a black handle.

Wow, what a beautiful description. I'm actually concerned, Karen, that there will be drag queens out here that look at this cane and they might want to steal it from me.

Wow, what a beautiful description. I'm actually concerned, Karen, that there will be drag queens out here that look at this cane and they might want to steal it from me.

I want to steal it from you. That possibility.

I want to steal it from you. That possibility.

That actually brings me to a fun question, Karen. What would your drag name be?

That actually brings me to a fun question, Karen. What would your drag name be?

Oh, now, you know, I have never been asked that. And so I don't have an answer for you.

Oh, now, you know, I have never been asked that. And so I don't have an answer for you.

I'll give you a minute to think about it. Sam, what would your drag name be?

I'll give you a minute to think about it. Sam, what would your drag name be?

Oh. Wolfgang Funke.

Oh. Wolfgang Funke.

Well, my husband David has given me my drag name, which is, uh, caramel latte or potato spice, because I love potatoes and spice because I'm really spicy and feisty sometimes.

Well, my husband David has given me my drag name, which is, uh, caramel latte or potato spice, because I love potatoes and spice because I'm really spicy and feisty sometimes.

I'm going to turn the challenge around because when I started doing some work with deaf communities, I first learned very quickly that a deaf name has to be given to you. Yes. So I'm going to charge you over the next week to come up with my drag name.

I'm going to turn the challenge around because when I started doing some work with deaf communities, I first learned very quickly that a deaf name has to be given to you. Yes. So I'm going to charge you over the next week to come up with my drag name.

Ooh, ooh.

Ooh, ooh.

I think well, considering your name is Karen, which is, you know, I love you, Karen, but it's an unfortunate name in today's day and age to age to be called a Karen. But how about we call you Karen, but not a Karen?

I think well, considering your name is Karen, which is, you know, I love you, Karen, but it's an unfortunate name in today's day and age to age to be called a Karen. But how about we call you Karen, but not a Karen?

Okay, excellent.

Okay, excellent.

Yeah, I think that's a good one.

Yeah, I think that's a good one.

It's a.

It's a.

Start. Yeah.

Start. Yeah.

Karen, you are when you're not a Karen. Yeah.

Karen, you are when you're not a Karen. Yeah.

That's it.

That's it.

Oh, well, I think, um, you know, there's been an absolute pleasure to chat with you today, Karen. Now, Karen, did you have anything else you wanted to say to Karen before we, you know, continue?

Oh, well, I think, um, you know, there's been an absolute pleasure to chat with you today, Karen. Now, Karen, did you have anything else you wanted to say to Karen before we, you know, continue?

I just want to say a massive thank you, Karen, on behalf of every person that lives with a disability. And I'm not just saying this for the sake of it, I can't tell you how heartwarming it is to see, especially as a gay person. You know, like, I never felt welcome back then when I was single, I was ashamed to use my cane in public. I would not want to enter a bar or a club because I was so scared to be judged. And now we've got the biggest LGBTQIA+ festival here doing things like this. So on behalf of every queer person that has a disability, I just want to say a massive, massive thank you to you.

I just want to say a massive thank you, Karen, on behalf of every person that lives with a disability. And I'm not just saying this for the sake of it, I can't tell you how heartwarming it is to see, especially as a gay person. You know, like, I never felt welcome back then when I was single, I was ashamed to use my cane in public. I would not want to enter a bar or a club because I was so scared to be judged. And now we've got the biggest LGBTQIA+ festival here doing things like this. So on behalf of every queer person that has a disability, I just want to say a massive, massive thank you to you.

Oh, and thank you. Um, I'm thrilled that we have you as a community ambassador, and I'm looking forward to that relationship continuing for many years.

Oh, and thank you. Um, I'm thrilled that we have you as a community ambassador, and I'm looking forward to that relationship continuing for many years.

Likewise. Thank you so much, Karen. Is there anything you would like to say to our listeners?

Likewise. Thank you so much, Karen. Is there anything you would like to say to our listeners?

Uh, just that if you are listening and you want to come on down, please come on down. We've been officially open for about 15 minutes. Um, there's lots of resources there to help you understand what you can expect. Um, in coming along to Carnival. I'm sure visit in Australia can talk a bit about that sometime this morning. Um, and we're here to welcome you and make sure you have a fabulous day. Um, we'll be here right through till 9 p.m..

Uh, just that if you are listening and you want to come on down, please come on down. We've been officially open for about 15 minutes. Um, there's lots of resources there to help you understand what you can expect. Um, in coming along to Carnival. I'm sure visit in Australia can talk a bit about that sometime this morning. Um, and we're here to welcome you and make sure you have a fabulous day. Um, we'll be here right through till 9 p.m..

Is there anything you'd like to share about accessibility or just just letting our listeners know if you're blind, you know, you come here. This is what we've got on offer.

Is there anything you'd like to share about accessibility or just just letting our listeners know if you're blind, you know, you come here. This is what we've got on offer.

Yeah. Look, there's a lot of, um, a lot of advice here, and I'm sure that is something that Vision Australia will be talking about this morning. But we also, if you do get here, um, and need any support, um, you'll see lots and lots of people in midsummer t shirts, you'll hear, you know, you'll be able to ask for some support for that. You know, please, you know someone who's in a t shirt that's or security, um, who can actually call us? We've got an access number, um, that we can then call and have somebody meet you and provide you with some additional support. So we are going above and beyond where we can to make sure that everyone has a great day.

Yeah. Look, there's a lot of, um, a lot of advice here, and I'm sure that is something that Vision Australia will be talking about this morning. But we also, if you do get here, um, and need any support, um, you'll see lots and lots of people in midsummer t shirts, you'll hear, you know, you'll be able to ask for some support for that. You know, please, you know someone who's in a t shirt that's or security, um, who can actually call us? We've got an access number, um, that we can then call and have somebody meet you and provide you with some additional support. So we are going above and beyond where we can to make sure that everyone has a great day.

And I can say this because I was part of this, uh, thing that happened. All the volunteers have been trained on how to interact with a blind person. So you're not going to feel like an alien here. Come. Come see us. Come have fun at midsummer.

And I can say this because I was part of this, uh, thing that happened. All the volunteers have been trained on how to interact with a blind person. So you're not going to feel like an alien here. Come. Come see us. Come have fun at midsummer.

Please do now, Karen, um, what's been your favorite midsummer memory over the years that you've headed along to the carnival and to the festival more broadly?

Please do now, Karen, um, what's been your favorite midsummer memory over the years that you've headed along to the carnival and to the festival more broadly?

Oh, look, I don't have one favorite because, um, it literally changes every day and there's so many different things. Um, I'm always absolutely astounded how many people fit in to see the dog show in the afternoon and and to hear about the dog show and, um, and, uh, I think it's just the variety of people who are here and the variety of experiences and, um, and going back to that, all ages or lifestyles or cultures or faiths, um, this is a day when I think all of our diverse communities take that to heart and come together.

Oh, look, I don't have one favorite because, um, it literally changes every day and there's so many different things. Um, I'm always absolutely astounded how many people fit in to see the dog show in the afternoon and and to hear about the dog show and, um, and, uh, I think it's just the variety of people who are here and the variety of experiences and, um, and going back to that, all ages or lifestyles or cultures or faiths, um, this is a day when I think all of our diverse communities take that to heart and come together.

And what's it been like to be involved as, um, you know, some of one of the chief people involved in midsummer over the years, having that involvement and making all these wonderful things happen and being such a, you know, central role in that. What's you know, what what's that been like for you?

And what's it been like to be involved as, um, you know, some of one of the chief people involved in midsummer over the years, having that involvement and making all these wonderful things happen and being such a, you know, central role in that. What's you know, what what's that been like for you?

Uh, at times it can feel really relentless because there's, there's there's never enough hours in the day to do all the things we really want to do. But I feel really proud of what we've achieved and what we still want to achieve. There's always so much more to do. Um, and I think what really makes it worthwhile is every year, having so many people participate and reach out to us. Um, that you realise that that's why we do what we do is it is a, you know, we don't do it for ourselves. We do it. Although I'm sure we feel really good about that as well. But you, you're doing it for all of our diverse communities. And um, and we every year we hear from so many people, individual stories about what it's meant to them. Um, that makes it worthwhile for sure.

Uh, at times it can feel really relentless because there's, there's there's never enough hours in the day to do all the things we really want to do. But I feel really proud of what we've achieved and what we still want to achieve. There's always so much more to do. Um, and I think what really makes it worthwhile is every year, having so many people participate and reach out to us. Um, that you realise that that's why we do what we do is it is a, you know, we don't do it for ourselves. We do it. Although I'm sure we feel really good about that as well. But you, you're doing it for all of our diverse communities. And um, and we every year we hear from so many people, individual stories about what it's meant to them. Um, that makes it worthwhile for sure.

And we're going to do something a bit, um, exciting. We're going to go from Karen to Karen. Okay. I'm going to interview you, um, for a very brief moment. What's been your favourite midsummer memory?

And we're going to do something a bit, um, exciting. We're going to go from Karen to Karen. Okay. I'm going to interview you, um, for a very brief moment. What's been your favourite midsummer memory?

Well, this is my second year. It genuinely is the fact that as a blind person, I feel not just welcome, not just celebrated, but embraced. That is by far the best thing. Um, and I, you know, it's little attention to detail, the way the staff will interact with me, the way someone will come and help me when I'm at an event without making me feel like, you know, sometimes I feel like a lot of people, uh, mean to help you out, but, you know, it just gets awkward and uncomfortable because they're not sure how to deal with a blind person. But at midsummer, it just feels like I said, it just feels. It feels like home.

Well, this is my second year. It genuinely is the fact that as a blind person, I feel not just welcome, not just celebrated, but embraced. That is by far the best thing. Um, and I, you know, it's little attention to detail, the way the staff will interact with me, the way someone will come and help me when I'm at an event without making me feel like, you know, sometimes I feel like a lot of people, uh, mean to help you out, but, you know, it just gets awkward and uncomfortable because they're not sure how to deal with a blind person. But at midsummer, it just feels like I said, it just feels. It feels like home.

Oh for sure. And, you know, um, Karen, we'll go back to you. Um, you know, if people are heading along to midsummer. What, uh, you know, a few unmissable things that they should head along to. What's, you know, what should be right up the top of their priority list if they're heading down.

Oh for sure. And, you know, um, Karen, we'll go back to you. Um, you know, if people are heading along to midsummer. What, uh, you know, a few unmissable things that they should head along to. What's, you know, what should be right up the top of their priority list if they're heading down.

Uh, well, of course, we have three big outdoor community events. This is the first of them. We have another one on our final day on the 9th of February. Um, right in the middle. We've got Pride March. So they're the like, really, really big, um, you know, hundreds of thousands of people events. Um, we have a range of events that we've curated under what's called queer imaginings that we're really excited about, which also has a number of disability led projects in it. Um, it's sort of main project that's sort of the biggest one of those is called honour. Um, that's a really big free event on the 31st of January at Fed Square. So we're saying to everyone, please, um, come along to that. Um, you know, a couple of weeks ago that that venue was filled for Robbie Williams. We'd like to challenge that number of people coming along to that one for sure. Absolutely. Fill Fed Square and show just what queer communities can do.

Uh, well, of course, we have three big outdoor community events. This is the first of them. We have another one on our final day on the 9th of February. Um, right in the middle. We've got Pride March. So they're the like, really, really big, um, you know, hundreds of thousands of people events. Um, we have a range of events that we've curated under what's called queer imaginings that we're really excited about, which also has a number of disability led projects in it. Um, it's sort of main project that's sort of the biggest one of those is called honour. Um, that's a really big free event on the 31st of January at Fed Square. So we're saying to everyone, please, um, come along to that. Um, you know, a couple of weeks ago that that venue was filled for Robbie Williams. We'd like to challenge that number of people coming along to that one for sure. Absolutely. Fill Fed Square and show just what queer communities can do.

I believe we will have, um, somebody from honour, um, in a couple of hours time. We're going to be chatting to someone from there. So that'll be quite exciting to, you know, have them on, um, on the program. And you know what? What does it mean to be involved in that sort of intersectionality like we're talking today about, um, the, I guess, crossover between, you know, queerness and also blindness and low vision, but there's also so many other, um, elements out there, be they, you know, people who are POC, people who are First Nations, people who might have other disabilities, who have talked about what sort of, um, what's that been like for you and the midsummer team to have that involvement and, you know, welcome those sort of people into the fold? Yeah.

I believe we will have, um, somebody from honour, um, in a couple of hours time. We're going to be chatting to someone from there. So that'll be quite exciting to, you know, have them on, um, on the program. And you know what? What does it mean to be involved in that sort of intersectionality like we're talking today about, um, the, I guess, crossover between, you know, queerness and also blindness and low vision, but there's also so many other, um, elements out there, be they, you know, people who are POC, people who are First Nations, people who might have other disabilities, who have talked about what sort of, um, what's that been like for you and the midsummer team to have that involvement and, you know, welcome those sort of people into the fold? Yeah.

And a lot of that is about finding ways to partner with groups and effectively hand over the keys to parts of the festival to those communities. Um, obviously, honor is a, as a Bipoc, um, project. Um, and, you know, people of color communities are really important to us. Um, we also look at all ages. So, you know, we've got the women's circus, um, doing a show this year. Uh, which is been created by and with women and, um, who are in their 50s, 60s and 70s. Um, we also have a project this year, which I'm really it's called it Uncertain Time. Part of our Queer Imaginings programme that's actually been created for members of our communities with babies who are 12 months old or younger. Um, because people in our communities, when they're having children often find that a lot of the services that they're interacting with, it's a really, you know, exciting. But it's also a challenging time. And a lot of the services that you're dealing with just haven't been set up for the challenges of a queer rainbow family. Um, and so we're really excited to have that project, um, for, you know, those members of our community who are in the early stages of having a family with a really little baby, um, to be To be able to share the festival with them. With us.

And a lot of that is about finding ways to partner with groups and effectively hand over the keys to parts of the festival to those communities. Um, obviously, honor is a, as a Bipoc, um, project. Um, and, you know, people of color communities are really important to us. Um, we also look at all ages. So, you know, we've got the women's circus, um, doing a show this year. Uh, which is been created by and with women and, um, who are in their 50s, 60s and 70s. Um, we also have a project this year, which I'm really it's called it Uncertain Time. Part of our Queer Imaginings programme that's actually been created for members of our communities with babies who are 12 months old or younger. Um, because people in our communities, when they're having children often find that a lot of the services that they're interacting with, it's a really, you know, exciting. But it's also a challenging time. And a lot of the services that you're dealing with just haven't been set up for the challenges of a queer rainbow family. Um, and so we're really excited to have that project, um, for, you know, those members of our community who are in the early stages of having a family with a really little baby, um, to be To be able to share the festival with them. With us.

Sam, that reminds me, when I interviewed Karen at the red carpet, we were talking about babies and I asked Karen if we could have an event where people get to drag their babies up, and Karen said she'll think about it. So, Karen 2026, what do you think? Drag baby competition.

Sam, that reminds me, when I interviewed Karen at the red carpet, we were talking about babies and I asked Karen if we could have an event where people get to drag their babies up, and Karen said she'll think about it. So, Karen 2026, what do you think? Drag baby competition.

Always happy to talk to the community about any idea that they come up with.

Always happy to talk to the community about any idea that they come up with.

I just want to see babies with eyebrows.

I just want to see babies with eyebrows.

Oh for sure. Oh, but, um. Karen, was there anything else you wanted to, um, chat to Karen about before we wrap up?

Oh for sure. Oh, but, um. Karen, was there anything else you wanted to, um, chat to Karen about before we wrap up?

I feel like I could talk to Karen all day, but she's a really busy person today. I think we should let her go because her head's probably spinning in every direction.

I feel like I could talk to Karen all day, but she's a really busy person today. I think we should let her go because her head's probably spinning in every direction.

And you got a line up of other people that I'm sure you want to talk to.

And you got a line up of other people that I'm sure you want to talk to.

Oh, for sure. But, you know, it's just getting started here on the midsummer broadcast from the Alexandra Gardens. I believe we're about to head to a song. Um, so this is remedy with. I'm fine. And we've got the meter remix for you today, so please enjoy.

Oh, for sure. But, you know, it's just getting started here on the midsummer broadcast from the Alexandra Gardens. I believe we're about to head to a song. Um, so this is remedy with. I'm fine. And we've got the meter remix for you today, so please enjoy.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You're listening to Australia's Midsummer Carnival Day broadcast and that was I'm Fine, the metre remix by Remedy. Emma Coultry, known by her stage name remedy, is a Melbourne based artist who brings not only incredible talent to her music, but also a powerful message living with an invisible disability herself. Emma advocates for greater acceptance and self-love while supporting other artists with disabilities. Her debut EP, last Summer, released at just 22, blends soul, R&B, hip hop and pop, and through her platform, Emma encourages artists to prioritise their health and avoid burnout in an industry that often lacks accessibility. More to come from Alexandra Gardens in Melbourne. And, you know, speaking of that. It's great to be joined by Vision Australia radio and audio manager Conrad Brown, who's with us right now. Conrad, welcome. Thanks.

You're listening to Australia's Midsummer Carnival Day broadcast and that was I'm Fine, the metre remix by Remedy. Emma Coultry, known by her stage name remedy, is a Melbourne based artist who brings not only incredible talent to her music, but also a powerful message living with an invisible disability herself. Emma advocates for greater acceptance and self-love while supporting other artists with disabilities. Her debut EP, last Summer, released at just 22, blends soul, R&B, hip hop and pop, and through her platform, Emma encourages artists to prioritise their health and avoid burnout in an industry that often lacks accessibility. More to come from Alexandra Gardens in Melbourne. And, you know, speaking of that. It's great to be joined by Vision Australia radio and audio manager Conrad Brown, who's with us right now. Conrad, welcome. Thanks.

Happy midsummer guys.

Happy midsummer guys.

Happy midsummer to you. Now, firstly, Conrad, for any newbies tuning in today, could you share how long Vision Australia Radio has been broadcasting and when was the first broadcast?

Happy midsummer to you. Now, firstly, Conrad, for any newbies tuning in today, could you share how long Vision Australia Radio has been broadcasting and when was the first broadcast?

Well, Sam Vision Australia Radio has a really long history within the community broadcasting sector. We've been going in different kind of guises over the years, but we originally were what was known as an RP station and launched just over 42 years ago. Um, so yeah, we've been around for a while doing what we do, which is providing access to information, news, current affairs and specialist program for people with a disability.

Well, Sam Vision Australia Radio has a really long history within the community broadcasting sector. We've been going in different kind of guises over the years, but we originally were what was known as an RP station and launched just over 42 years ago. Um, so yeah, we've been around for a while doing what we do, which is providing access to information, news, current affairs and specialist program for people with a disability.

Karen. So, Conrad, this is quite a controversial question, I guess. Do you still think we need print radio? Because assistive technology continues to advance. So what do you feel about that?

Karen. So, Conrad, this is quite a controversial question, I guess. Do you still think we need print radio? Because assistive technology continues to advance. So what do you feel about that?

You know, it's it is. It's not controversial so much as what I think. It's kind of like it's an evolution of what we do. So I agree that there might not be as much need for the reading type radio programs that we do, but I do think that there's still a lot of people who technology is still a barrier. There's still a lot of, um, areas, I guess, where they may not be able to utilize the technology that potentially they could that would help them to be able to get access to information. So in that regard, we're still a really valuable service there. But as a radio service, we're evolving. We continue to do the reading programs, but we're really leaning into more specialist programs that are delivered for and by people with lived experience of a disability. And I think that's where we're heading towards in the future. And I think technology is actually our friend. You know, a lot of people are really scared of AI and things like that. I see it more that we embrace it to do the things that make what we do easier and gives us more time to do things that are creative and I guess more outside of the box.

You know, it's it is. It's not controversial so much as what I think. It's kind of like it's an evolution of what we do. So I agree that there might not be as much need for the reading type radio programs that we do, but I do think that there's still a lot of people who technology is still a barrier. There's still a lot of, um, areas, I guess, where they may not be able to utilize the technology that potentially they could that would help them to be able to get access to information. So in that regard, we're still a really valuable service there. But as a radio service, we're evolving. We continue to do the reading programs, but we're really leaning into more specialist programs that are delivered for and by people with lived experience of a disability. And I think that's where we're heading towards in the future. And I think technology is actually our friend. You know, a lot of people are really scared of AI and things like that. I see it more that we embrace it to do the things that make what we do easier and gives us more time to do things that are creative and I guess more outside of the box.

Mhm. And Conrad, why did Vision Australia see the need to get more involved with Midsummer Festival.

Mhm. And Conrad, why did Vision Australia see the need to get more involved with Midsummer Festival.

You know it's been something that I think has evolved again using that word again in a way that felt like a really great partnership and a meeting of the minds in lots of ways. Um, midsummer is doing so many great things within the queer community, and a part of that queer community is people with a disability. So it's really important that they look at, you know, access and inclusion. And they've done such a great job at reaching out to organizations like ours and others within the the sector that can help them connect with people and also make sure that they Can be doing what is actually needed for people within the community, rather than just trying to figure it out as they go. So I see it as a really great partnership. And just to be present and visible at an event like Midsummer Carnival, I think speaks volumes as well.

You know it's been something that I think has evolved again using that word again in a way that felt like a really great partnership and a meeting of the minds in lots of ways. Um, midsummer is doing so many great things within the queer community, and a part of that queer community is people with a disability. So it's really important that they look at, you know, access and inclusion. And they've done such a great job at reaching out to organizations like ours and others within the the sector that can help them connect with people and also make sure that they Can be doing what is actually needed for people within the community, rather than just trying to figure it out as they go. So I see it as a really great partnership. And just to be present and visible at an event like Midsummer Carnival, I think speaks volumes as well.

And this is not your first midsummer, is it, Conrad?

And this is not your first midsummer, is it, Conrad?

No, it's not my first rodeo.

No, it's not my first rodeo.

So what brings you back?

So what brings you back?

You know what I love? Midsummer. I was the general manager at Joy a few years ago. I've been with Vision Australia radio for nine years. You know, community broadcasting is in my blood. And I was at Joy for ten years working there and volunteering as well. So midsummer has always been a part of that station, but it's also a community event. As someone within the queer community as well that I've really gravitated towards. It's just so great to be in a space that is all accepting and, you know, a place where we can all come together. We don't get to do this often, so it's really nice that we get to make the most of it.

You know what I love? Midsummer. I was the general manager at Joy a few years ago. I've been with Vision Australia radio for nine years. You know, community broadcasting is in my blood. And I was at Joy for ten years working there and volunteering as well. So midsummer has always been a part of that station, but it's also a community event. As someone within the queer community as well that I've really gravitated towards. It's just so great to be in a space that is all accepting and, you know, a place where we can all come together. We don't get to do this often, so it's really nice that we get to make the most of it.

100%.

100%.

And yeah. And following on from that, Conrad, I think, um, the official community radio listener survey results suggest that about 25% of Vision Australia Radio's audience identify as being part of the LGBTQ+ community. So, you know, is that a surprising figure for you?

And yeah. And following on from that, Conrad, I think, um, the official community radio listener survey results suggest that about 25% of Vision Australia Radio's audience identify as being part of the LGBTQ+ community. So, you know, is that a surprising figure for you?

Do you know what? I think for some people, they probably would think it is. I feel like as society is starting to understand more the spectrum of sexuality and gender, that a lot more people are identifying with the LGBTQIA+ community in a way that they can feel connected to it. So I think, um, self-identifying as part of the community has become potentially easier for some people because they can see themselves represented in other In other ways that potentially weren't there, you know, even like 5 or 10 years ago, it was very much kind of a much more fixed idea of what the queer community looked like. And I just think that, you know, the disability community is so diverse as well. It makes a lot of sense to me that they make up a big part of the queer community as well.

Do you know what? I think for some people, they probably would think it is. I feel like as society is starting to understand more the spectrum of sexuality and gender, that a lot more people are identifying with the LGBTQIA+ community in a way that they can feel connected to it. So I think, um, self-identifying as part of the community has become potentially easier for some people because they can see themselves represented in other In other ways that potentially weren't there, you know, even like 5 or 10 years ago, it was very much kind of a much more fixed idea of what the queer community looked like. And I just think that, you know, the disability community is so diverse as well. It makes a lot of sense to me that they make up a big part of the queer community as well.

It's also so niche, you know, because, uh, most, most people that are sighted will not meet a blind person in their lifetime. So blind people are quite rare. You know, it sort of affects some people. They're like, oh, I feel so alone. For me, I love it because I feel like a celebrity, but within that space, like it's such a niche group. And then within that niche group, identifying as LGBTQIA+ makes you even more different in a way. You know.

It's also so niche, you know, because, uh, most, most people that are sighted will not meet a blind person in their lifetime. So blind people are quite rare. You know, it sort of affects some people. They're like, oh, I feel so alone. For me, I love it because I feel like a celebrity, but within that space, like it's such a niche group. And then within that niche group, identifying as LGBTQIA+ makes you even more different in a way. You know.

The minority within the minority.

The minority within the minority.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it's so great that we are acknowledging that our community is so much bigger than what we are told or what we, you know, what we see on social media or whatever. So it's. Yeah, it's really great.

So it's so great that we are acknowledging that our community is so much bigger than what we are told or what we, you know, what we see on social media or whatever. So it's. Yeah, it's really great.

Absolutely. And Conrad, you've been involved with or you've had, you know, senior positions in a number of community media organizations now, you know, you've been here for quite a while at um, Vision Australia Radio. But, um, people may also be familiar with your work on Joy 94.9. So, um, Conrad, what attracts you to this kind of work in these communities?

Absolutely. And Conrad, you've been involved with or you've had, you know, senior positions in a number of community media organizations now, you know, you've been here for quite a while at um, Vision Australia Radio. But, um, people may also be familiar with your work on Joy 94.9. So, um, Conrad, what attracts you to this kind of work in these communities?

Oh, Sam, some people might say I'm a sucker. Um, but.

Oh, Sam, some people might say I'm a sucker. Um, but.

Look, I never say that again. No, no, never say that.

Look, I never say that again. No, no, never say that.

So. Yeah. Yeah. Retract that. Um, look, I think what it comes down to is I've always had such a strong passion and affinity for community broadcasting. I love the way that it is inclusive, and that it's about accessibility and bringing people into a space for them to be able to speak to their community and to the broader general population as well. But, you know, it's a real privilege for me to me to be able to work in these spaces as well. Melbourne has such a strong community radio sector and you know, the opportunities within it are really wonderful. And I, you know, as a volunteer at Joy still, I work there for ten years. I still volunteer there now. I have done for the last eight years. And I've worked at Vision Australia for coming up nine years as well. Um, it's just really important to me. Um, you know, as cheesy as it sounds, I do like giving back. And I like being able to be part of something that actually does a lot of good.

So. Yeah. Yeah. Retract that. Um, look, I think what it comes down to is I've always had such a strong passion and affinity for community broadcasting. I love the way that it is inclusive, and that it's about accessibility and bringing people into a space for them to be able to speak to their community and to the broader general population as well. But, you know, it's a real privilege for me to me to be able to work in these spaces as well. Melbourne has such a strong community radio sector and you know, the opportunities within it are really wonderful. And I, you know, as a volunteer at Joy still, I work there for ten years. I still volunteer there now. I have done for the last eight years. And I've worked at Vision Australia for coming up nine years as well. Um, it's just really important to me. Um, you know, as cheesy as it sounds, I do like giving back. And I like being able to be part of something that actually does a lot of good.

Nothing wrong with being cheesy. And also, cheese is delicious.

Nothing wrong with being cheesy. And also, cheese is delicious.

It is very true, I can agree. So I guess what.

It is very true, I can agree. So I guess what.

Are the different ways people can access this radio channel? Um, are they podcast offerings? What would you like to tell people that are listening or haven't listened before? How can they access these amazing services?

Are the different ways people can access this radio channel? Um, are they podcast offerings? What would you like to tell people that are listening or haven't listened before? How can they access these amazing services?

Yeah, vision Australia Radio is, um, very much like, I guess a guess a lot of stations now we are everywhere. So you can listen to us on our Am, FM, digital radio signals. Wherever you are, you can go to VA radio.org to find out more about that. We have a really fantastic selection of podcast programs. A lot of them are specialist programs that are interview based. A lot of them are produced, presented and delivered by people within the blind and low vision community as well. Um, we also have some really fantastic, um, content that's available, um, across multiple platforms of special projects that we've done, one off series that look at things like employment, sport, um, yeah, we've got a lot of stuff. Our podcasts are on all the usual platforms. Um, but you can also go to VA radio org to find those as well. But yes, um, if you look hard enough, you will find Vision Australia Radio in all the corners of the internet.

Yeah, vision Australia Radio is, um, very much like, I guess a guess a lot of stations now we are everywhere. So you can listen to us on our Am, FM, digital radio signals. Wherever you are, you can go to VA radio.org to find out more about that. We have a really fantastic selection of podcast programs. A lot of them are specialist programs that are interview based. A lot of them are produced, presented and delivered by people within the blind and low vision community as well. Um, we also have some really fantastic, um, content that's available, um, across multiple platforms of special projects that we've done, one off series that look at things like employment, sport, um, yeah, we've got a lot of stuff. Our podcasts are on all the usual platforms. Um, but you can also go to VA radio org to find those as well. But yes, um, if you look hard enough, you will find Vision Australia Radio in all the corners of the internet.

Including talking vision. I've got to get that little plug in.

Including talking vision. I've got to get that little plug in.

One of our.

One of our.

One of our flagship shows.

One of our flagship shows.

Yeah. Full disclosure, I, um, I've got a bit of a vested interest in here, so, um. But anyway, um, during midsummer, Conrad, um, you know, we've spoken with, um, Karen and Karen before, um, about the intersection of disability and queerness. Um, for those who have, um, such identities. So do you think society's becoming more understanding of this crossover, or are we still trying to fit people in their individual boxes? Now, you did cover this a little bit before, but let's dig into that a little bit more.

Yeah. Full disclosure, I, um, I've got a bit of a vested interest in here, so, um. But anyway, um, during midsummer, Conrad, um, you know, we've spoken with, um, Karen and Karen before, um, about the intersection of disability and queerness. Um, for those who have, um, such identities. So do you think society's becoming more understanding of this crossover, or are we still trying to fit people in their individual boxes? Now, you did cover this a little bit before, but let's dig into that a little bit more.

You know what? Sam is someone who doesn't have a disability. I can only talk about what I've seen in my position, um, at Vision Australia Radio and in my time in the sector as well. And I do see better representation, more effort and, and actual consultation going on to make sure that people with a disability are included as well. But I still think we've got a long way to go, and it doesn't mean that it's not, uh, we're not doing well, but there's always areas for improvement. So I'm really, um, I think the future is, is going to be quite bright in how we can see representation of people with a disability, um, improve and increase. But there's work involved in that. And I'm sure, you know, both of you know, that to allow people into a space, you actually have to make an effort to do that and get the people that you want in there telling you what they need as well.

You know what? Sam is someone who doesn't have a disability. I can only talk about what I've seen in my position, um, at Vision Australia Radio and in my time in the sector as well. And I do see better representation, more effort and, and actual consultation going on to make sure that people with a disability are included as well. But I still think we've got a long way to go, and it doesn't mean that it's not, uh, we're not doing well, but there's always areas for improvement. So I'm really, um, I think the future is, is going to be quite bright in how we can see representation of people with a disability, um, improve and increase. But there's work involved in that. And I'm sure, you know, both of you know, that to allow people into a space, you actually have to make an effort to do that and get the people that you want in there telling you what they need as well.

Now, Conrad, Sam's going to be asking you all the intellectual.

Now, Conrad, Sam's going to be asking you all the intellectual.

Intelligent.

Intelligent.

Serious questions. I'm going to sort of mix it up.

Serious questions. I'm going to sort of mix it up.

Okay.

Okay.

What would your drag name be?

What would your drag name be?

Oh, um, that's really good. Well, I'm a Kiwi. Um, originally, I've been in Melbourne for 25 years, though, so I feel like I need something that encapsulates that as well. I really can't think of anything.

Oh, um, that's really good. Well, I'm a Kiwi. Um, originally, I've been in Melbourne for 25 years, though, so I feel like I need something that encapsulates that as well. I really can't think of anything.

TV, food. Cake.

TV, food. Cake.

Yeah, that's a good start.

Yeah, that's a good start.

Bring to the.

Bring to the.

Stage Kiwi fruit cake.

Stage Kiwi fruit cake.

I love it, yeah, yeah.

I love it, yeah, yeah.

That's it. I'm done.

That's it. I'm done.

And what's your favourite pride anthem?

And what's your favourite pride anthem?

Oh, um, you know what? I am quite, uh. I do lean towards kind of some of the classics. Um, I'm a bit of a Kylie fan in that regard. Um, but there is. Oh, man, there's so many. Um, yeah. I'll say Kylie. Uh, a bit of the devil, you know.

Oh, um, you know what? I am quite, uh. I do lean towards kind of some of the classics. Um, I'm a bit of a Kylie fan in that regard. Um, but there is. Oh, man, there's so many. Um, yeah. I'll say Kylie. Uh, a bit of the devil, you know.

And what about you, Sam?

And what about you, Sam?

What's your pride anthem?

What's your pride anthem?

Oh, um, I think, um, there was, um, one last year. I want to, um, highlight, but I can't remember the name of it. It's terrible.

Oh, um, I think, um, there was, um, one last year. I want to, um, highlight, but I can't remember the name of it. It's terrible.

Karen, you might not know this, but Sam and I were at a party recently. A karaoke party? Oh. That's true. And Sam was one of the standout talents. Ooh. Karaoke party. He can actually.

Karen, you might not know this, but Sam and I were at a party recently. A karaoke party? Oh. That's true. And Sam was one of the standout talents. Ooh. Karaoke party. He can actually.

That's right.

That's right.

He can hold a tune.

He can hold a tune.

Sam, can you.

Sam, can you.

Give us a little.

Give us a little.

Demo?

Demo?

Um, maybe later, but I think, um, you know, you can't go wrong with a good boy band, I think. Yeah. Yeah. No. Huge, huge.

Um, maybe later, but I think, um, you know, you can't go wrong with a good boy band, I think. Yeah. Yeah. No. Huge, huge.

And I think, I think we did a good version of a Queen song we did off the top of my head. Yeah, yeah. So Freddie Mercury, I think we did, um. Oh, God. Don't stop me now.

And I think, I think we did a good version of a Queen song we did off the top of my head. Yeah, yeah. So Freddie Mercury, I think we did, um. Oh, God. Don't stop me now.

Ah, don't stop me now.

Ah, don't stop me now.

But there's also, you know, classic like, um, ABBA and the Village People. I mean, those those transcend, you know, things. And, um, you know, ABBA had given me gimme, gimme a man after midnight.

But there's also, you know, classic like, um, ABBA and the Village People. I mean, those those transcend, you know, things. And, um, you know, ABBA had given me gimme, gimme a man after midnight.

So I think that might be, uh, Miss Kiwi fruit cakes.

So I think that might be, uh, Miss Kiwi fruit cakes.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, I'm going to.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, I'm going to.

Take royalty for that. I think we've given you a good name there.

Take royalty for that. I think we've given you a good name there.

I know I.

I know I.

Have to, I'll owe you. I'll credit you in my first show.

Have to, I'll owe you. I'll credit you in my first show.

So if your.

So if your.

Kiwi fruit cake.

Kiwi fruit cake.

My husband David.

My husband David.

Calls me potato.

Calls me potato.

Spice.

Spice.

Yeah. Oh, there you go.

Yeah. Oh, there you go.

Amazing.

Amazing.

Well, that's an amazing note to end on. Thank you so much, Conrad. That's Conrad Brown there and audio manager, and he'll be back in our final hour to co-host with our great friend Tess Herbert, so we're very much looking forward to it. Conrad, thank you so much for your time today.

Well, that's an amazing note to end on. Thank you so much, Conrad. That's Conrad Brown there and audio manager, and he'll be back in our final hour to co-host with our great friend Tess Herbert, so we're very much looking forward to it. Conrad, thank you so much for your time today.

Thanks so much, Sam. Thanks, Karen and happy midsummer to everyone and to everyone a happy midsummer.

Thanks so much, Sam. Thanks, Karen and happy midsummer to everyone and to everyone a happy midsummer.

See you later, fruitcake.

See you later, fruitcake.

Up next, we have True Colors by Inclusive, Melbourne's pioneering hip hop crew, composed of talented young artists who not only excel in rhyming and breakdancing, but also navigate the world with disabilities. For over a decade, they've been creating original music videos and performances, making significant impacts on both local and international hip hop scenes. Inclusive uses their platform to challenge societal perceptions of disability, addressing themes like discrimination, human rights, and independence through their powerful lyrics. That was true colours by buying cursive on Vision Australia Radio. Bit of a feisty anthem there. Love it. But, um. Yeah. You're listening to our live broadcast from Midsummer Carnival Day, where we celebrate the intersection of disability and queerness. Now to next up. We've got Oliver Ayres with us. Oliver is a disabled chance theatre maker, actor, writer and director, living and working between Naarm and Eora. Graduating with a BFA in Theatre from the VCA in 2021. He has performed and presented work nationally and internationally. Oliver joins us now as the director and co-writer of monster, the Demon Twink of Smith Street, showing at Chapel off chapel from January 20th 9th to February the 2nd as part of Midsummer Festival 2025. Oliver, welcome. Hello.

Up next, we have True Colors by Inclusive, Melbourne's pioneering hip hop crew, composed of talented young artists who not only excel in rhyming and breakdancing, but also navigate the world with disabilities. For over a decade, they've been creating original music videos and performances, making significant impacts on both local and international hip hop scenes. Inclusive uses their platform to challenge societal perceptions of disability, addressing themes like discrimination, human rights, and independence through their powerful lyrics. That was true colours by buying cursive on Vision Australia Radio. Bit of a feisty anthem there. Love it. But, um. Yeah. You're listening to our live broadcast from Midsummer Carnival Day, where we celebrate the intersection of disability and queerness. Now to next up. We've got Oliver Ayres with us. Oliver is a disabled chance theatre maker, actor, writer and director, living and working between Naarm and Eora. Graduating with a BFA in Theatre from the VCA in 2021. He has performed and presented work nationally and internationally. Oliver joins us now as the director and co-writer of monster, the Demon Twink of Smith Street, showing at Chapel off chapel from January 20th 9th to February the 2nd as part of Midsummer Festival 2025. Oliver, welcome. Hello.

Thank you so much for much for having me. It's such a pleasure to come on down. What a beautiful.

Thank you so much for much for having me. It's such a pleasure to come on down. What a beautiful.

Day.

Day.

I'm so glad you're here, Oliver. Because, um, part of the mid midsummer community ambassador role, I was always asked, you know, I get asked, what are the events you want to go for? And I'm browsing through the program and I see this, this event called the Demon Twink of Smith Street. And I was like, okay, I have to go here. So first things first. Where how on earth do you come up with a name like that? I love.

I'm so glad you're here, Oliver. Because, um, part of the mid midsummer community ambassador role, I was always asked, you know, I get asked, what are the events you want to go for? And I'm browsing through the program and I see this, this event called the Demon Twink of Smith Street. And I was like, okay, I have to go here. So first things first. Where how on earth do you come up with a name like that? I love.

It. Oh my goodness. I think it's just natural if you know Florian at all, which hopefully you can come to the show and get an idea for who they are. Um. It's pretty. Yeah, it's just naming exactly what is in the tin with Florian Wild. Very much demon twink energy.

It. Oh my goodness. I think it's just natural if you know Florian at all, which hopefully you can come to the show and get an idea for who they are. Um. It's pretty. Yeah, it's just naming exactly what is in the tin with Florian Wild. Very much demon twink energy.

Please tell me more, because my brain goes everywhere when I think of demon, demon twink. Like, just tell us more. Tell our listeners more about it.

Please tell me more, because my brain goes everywhere when I think of demon, demon twink. Like, just tell us more. Tell our listeners more about it.

Oh goodness me. So, um, the story of Florian Wild is that it's a persona, but it's also a true story about, um, uh, Louis, uh, who is Florian and how he is a transgender man? He is a drag queen. He's also a high school teacher, so he kind of encompasses the intersection between, like, these three, really, um, controversial identity points and kind of coalesces in the middle of all of that. So it's a really campy, fun, cabaret. Entertaining look at some actually quite serious, like, intense trans issues to navigate in the world. And his role as a teacher and also as a performer.