Well, a couple of excellent sounding opportunities for come and try this Sunday. Let's chat about it with the Program Manager for Blind Sports and Recreation, Victoria, Rachel de summa. Rachel, how are you? Good.

Well, a couple of excellent sounding opportunities for come and try this Sunday. Let's chat about it with the Program Manager for Blind Sports and Recreation, Victoria, Rachel de summa. Rachel, how are you? Good.

Thanks, Peter.

Thanks, Peter.

Now, these sound two wonderful opportunities. Tell us a bit about them. I guess. Let's talk about gymnastics first, because we've spoken about tennis in the past, but not too often about gymnastics. So tell us about this opportunity.

Now, these sound two wonderful opportunities. Tell us a bit about them. I guess. Let's talk about gymnastics first, because we've spoken about tennis in the past, but not too often about gymnastics. So tell us about this opportunity.

Yeah, sure. Well, um, the Boroondara Disability Sport and Recreation Hub is hosting a gymnastics come and try day. So at the YMCA they have a gymnastic program with lots of really experienced instructors. And they're really looking at branching out to be able to offer programs to young people with vision loss. And so this is a come and try day is a kind of pilot or an experience to like, see the level of interest of people who'd like to come along and give it a go. And then from there, um, with people who are interested, can have a chat with instructors about doing an ongoing weekend program. Okay. You've made a.

Yeah, sure. Well, um, the Boroondara Disability Sport and Recreation Hub is hosting a gymnastics come and try day. So at the YMCA they have a gymnastic program with lots of really experienced instructors. And they're really looking at branching out to be able to offer programs to young people with vision loss. And so this is a come and try day is a kind of pilot or an experience to like, see the level of interest of people who'd like to come along and give it a go. And then from there, um, with people who are interested, can have a chat with instructors about doing an ongoing weekend program. Okay. You've made a.

Great point there about the fact that these are trained instructors. So, you know, people are going to be in good hands, if I can put it that way.

Great point there about the fact that these are trained instructors. So, you know, people are going to be in good hands, if I can put it that way.

Yes, absolutely. Yeah. We've talked a lot about ratios and about slowing the class down and providing a lot of audio description. And so, um, yeah, instructors will make sure that they've got like 1 to 2, um, instructors per child, and we might even have some volunteers coming on board to be able to help out with, um, the class. So it should be quite a fun day. And gymnastics is such a great activity to do to help with balance and build confidence. And yeah, it's also lots of fun. So it should be a really good, good experience for people who want to come along and try it out. Yeah, a great.

Yes, absolutely. Yeah. We've talked a lot about ratios and about slowing the class down and providing a lot of audio description. And so, um, yeah, instructors will make sure that they've got like 1 to 2, um, instructors per child, and we might even have some volunteers coming on board to be able to help out with, um, the class. So it should be quite a fun day. And gymnastics is such a great activity to do to help with balance and build confidence. And yeah, it's also lots of fun. So it should be a really good, good experience for people who want to come along and try it out. Yeah, a great.

Thing about balance isn't that so, so important, isn't it? Because, you know, if you're a little bit, uh, unsteady on your feet. So that can lead to all sorts of issues.

Thing about balance isn't that so, so important, isn't it? Because, you know, if you're a little bit, uh, unsteady on your feet. So that can lead to all sorts of issues.

That's right. Yeah. It's quite common for people with vision loss to have falls or to feel unsteady on their feet. So gymnastics just really helps with all of those skills around body awareness and balance. And I'm just feeling more comfortable in your body as well.

That's right. Yeah. It's quite common for people with vision loss to have falls or to feel unsteady on their feet. So gymnastics just really helps with all of those skills around body awareness and balance. And I'm just feeling more comfortable in your body as well.

So people don't need any sort of prior experience. I guess if they just want to either, uh, you know, try it for the sake of trying or try something new. This is their opportunity.

So people don't need any sort of prior experience. I guess if they just want to either, uh, you know, try it for the sake of trying or try something new. This is their opportunity.

That's right. Yes. Yeah. And if people want to bring along siblings or friends, they're welcome to do that as well. So it's really a family friendly event.

That's right. Yes. Yeah. And if people want to bring along siblings or friends, they're welcome to do that as well. So it's really a family friendly event.

Great idea. And of course, if maybe your, uh, brother or sister had joined doing gymnastics and you're the person with a vision impairment, well, you can, uh, kind of catch up or maybe even get ahead by, uh, this come and try day.

Great idea. And of course, if maybe your, uh, brother or sister had joined doing gymnastics and you're the person with a vision impairment, well, you can, uh, kind of catch up or maybe even get ahead by, uh, this come and try day.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

How's the opportunity come about? Because, you know, sometimes you can have really good ideas, but it's kind of finding the people that are sort of willing to to take it on. How's that all happened?

How's the opportunity come about? Because, you know, sometimes you can have really good ideas, but it's kind of finding the people that are sort of willing to to take it on. How's that all happened?

Yeah, well, there's a person who's, um, really interested in doing gymnastics for people with vision loss. She works in the area of vision herself, and so she's done a lot of work, um, with young people in her other profession. And so now she really wants to bring gymnastics to people with vision loss because she really knows how beneficial it can be. And so it's really in partnership with a specific instructor who's got a real passion for including people with vision loss in gymnastics.

Yeah, well, there's a person who's, um, really interested in doing gymnastics for people with vision loss. She works in the area of vision herself, and so she's done a lot of work, um, with young people in her other profession. And so now she really wants to bring gymnastics to people with vision loss because she really knows how beneficial it can be. And so it's really in partnership with a specific instructor who's got a real passion for including people with vision loss in gymnastics.

All right. So both are trained in gymnastics and also the experience of working with people who are blind or low vision. So that's that sounds great. I mean, I guess, you know, the sort of, um, stuff that people will be doing will be, you know, very much introductory, but, you know, get a bit of an idea of the sort of things that it can lead to as well.

All right. So both are trained in gymnastics and also the experience of working with people who are blind or low vision. So that's that sounds great. I mean, I guess, you know, the sort of, um, stuff that people will be doing will be, you know, very much introductory, but, you know, get a bit of an idea of the sort of things that it can lead to as well.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So like, I'm not sure exactly what the activities will be, but I imagine like mats work and like just trying out the rings or bars and things like that. And um, yeah, just really kind of, um, easy, simple things to start off with, just to get a sense of it and make it men. And the program would be run on its own, so there won't be a lot of other background noise or other things happening. So that'll really help people to be able to focus and be able to hear what's going on. And, and um, yeah, it should be good.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So like, I'm not sure exactly what the activities will be, but I imagine like mats work and like just trying out the rings or bars and things like that. And um, yeah, just really kind of, um, easy, simple things to start off with, just to get a sense of it and make it men. And the program would be run on its own, so there won't be a lot of other background noise or other things happening. So that'll really help people to be able to focus and be able to hear what's going on. And, and um, yeah, it should be good.

You thought of everything because often, uh, background noise can be either a bit distracting or disorientating. So if it's a nice, quiet environment, I'm sure that will lead to better outcomes. Now, uh, we'll give people a chance to grab something to record or take down contact details, because obviously you'd like to know beforehand who'd like to come along. So it's this coming Sunday, the 16th. That's right.

You thought of everything because often, uh, background noise can be either a bit distracting or disorientating. So if it's a nice, quiet environment, I'm sure that will lead to better outcomes. Now, uh, we'll give people a chance to grab something to record or take down contact details, because obviously you'd like to know beforehand who'd like to come along. So it's this coming Sunday, the 16th. That's right.

Sunday, the 16th of June, um, from 1030 to 1130 at the Boroondara Sports Complex, which is 271 C Belmore Road in Balwyn. And you can email Dominique Collins, um, who works at the YMCA. Her email address is Dominique Dominique Ireland h o double l a n d at YMCA Org.au. Um, or you can give us a call at blind sports on 982288769.

Sunday, the 16th of June, um, from 1030 to 1130 at the Boroondara Sports Complex, which is 271 C Belmore Road in Balwyn. And you can email Dominique Collins, um, who works at the YMCA. Her email address is Dominique Dominique Ireland h o double l a n d at YMCA Org.au. Um, or you can give us a call at blind sports on 982288769.

Our sport that has been around for a little while and certainly growing as far as popularity and opportunity goes, is tennis. Yeah.

Our sport that has been around for a little while and certainly growing as far as popularity and opportunity goes, is tennis. Yeah.

So we've got a fantastic opportunity to, um, experience blind tennis with some of our foundational coaches, Robert Fletcher and. Baby David, who are, um, going to be running this session from 1 to 3 on the same day in the same place. And so this, um, opportunity is open to children and adults, and both Phoebe and Robert have done a foundational coaching course with Tennis Australia. So they've got experience in coaching. They're going to bring all of the materials needed, and they're going to have a really fun bunch of activities to do trying out blind tennis. So that's using the large foam audible walls and slightly larger rackets and practicing hitting the ball on on the hard courts in the, in one of the basketball stadiums at the Boroondara Sports Complex.

So we've got a fantastic opportunity to, um, experience blind tennis with some of our foundational coaches, Robert Fletcher and. Baby David, who are, um, going to be running this session from 1 to 3 on the same day in the same place. And so this, um, opportunity is open to children and adults, and both Phoebe and Robert have done a foundational coaching course with Tennis Australia. So they've got experience in coaching. They're going to bring all of the materials needed, and they're going to have a really fun bunch of activities to do trying out blind tennis. So that's using the large foam audible walls and slightly larger rackets and practicing hitting the ball on on the hard courts in the, in one of the basketball stadiums at the Boroondara Sports Complex.

So again, if people may be might have played tennis at some stage and, you know, their sight might not be what it used to be. Or maybe if they've always thought about wanting to play tennis. I mean, we've just had the French Open. So that's kind of been in the news and people think, well, you know, I'm blind or low vision. Can I play that sport? This is your opportunity as well.

So again, if people may be might have played tennis at some stage and, you know, their sight might not be what it used to be. Or maybe if they've always thought about wanting to play tennis. I mean, we've just had the French Open. So that's kind of been in the news and people think, well, you know, I'm blind or low vision. Can I play that sport? This is your opportunity as well.

Absolutely. Yeah. And you never know where it'll go. You know, I rob I play tennis, um, in his youth and then come back to it. Um, and it's been involved in, you know, being able to go overseas or interstate through playing tennis and, um, babies taking on tennis, starting off without any kind of sense of, oh, yeah, I'm good at ball sports or I'm good at sports and really found a way in the sport. So it's really great to see that. Yeah, that these opportunities are available and it's, um, going to be a really fun, relaxed activity. You don't have to be good at ball sports. You don't have to have played tennis before. It's really just about having fun and having a go.

Absolutely. Yeah. And you never know where it'll go. You know, I rob I play tennis, um, in his youth and then come back to it. Um, and it's been involved in, you know, being able to go overseas or interstate through playing tennis and, um, babies taking on tennis, starting off without any kind of sense of, oh, yeah, I'm good at ball sports or I'm good at sports and really found a way in the sport. So it's really great to see that. Yeah, that these opportunities are available and it's, um, going to be a really fun, relaxed activity. You don't have to be good at ball sports. You don't have to have played tennis before. It's really just about having fun and having a go.

We don't play for Grand Slam titles at the moment. Just for fun. You you mentioned Robert Fletcher. I mean, he is a very articulate, uh, friendly sort of guy. I've had the pleasure of interviewing Robert a number of times, and, uh, he certainly is a very, very passionate about promoting tennis. He loves his tennis. And in a sense, equally importantly, he wants to really get other people enthused about it as well.

We don't play for Grand Slam titles at the moment. Just for fun. You you mentioned Robert Fletcher. I mean, he is a very articulate, uh, friendly sort of guy. I've had the pleasure of interviewing Robert a number of times, and, uh, he certainly is a very, very passionate about promoting tennis. He loves his tennis. And in a sense, equally importantly, he wants to really get other people enthused about it as well.

Absolutely. Yes. Yes, that's very true. Yeah. Rob is a great ambassador for us at Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria. And he is he's really passionate about tennis and really wants everyone to get involved and really wants to raise the platform of blind tennis in the community and broadly as well. So he's a real asset to blind tennis and blind sports in general, like tennis.

Absolutely. Yes. Yes, that's very true. Yeah. Rob is a great ambassador for us at Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria. And he is he's really passionate about tennis and really wants everyone to get involved and really wants to raise the platform of blind tennis in the community and broadly as well. So he's a real asset to blind tennis and blind sports in general, like tennis.

Had a great day at the Australian Open. It was earlier this year wasn't it? I'm not sure if you were closely involved with that, but uh, uh, that got quite, uh, great coverage on TV that, uh, day at, uh, the Aussie Open. It did.

Had a great day at the Australian Open. It was earlier this year wasn't it? I'm not sure if you were closely involved with that, but uh, uh, that got quite, uh, great coverage on TV that, uh, day at, uh, the Aussie Open. It did.

Yeah. That was a really great day and.

Yeah. That was a really great day and.

A great way to kind of again, spread the message to, uh, the broader community about the opportunities that are out there. So that's tremendous. It's just a bit more about the coach that, uh, the coaching, um, uh, credentials, if you like, or the course that, uh, Robert and Phoebe have done, because that's a good thing as well. Like, not only can you be enthusiastic about it, but you can kind of take your enthusiasm to a level where you can, you know, spread the joy.

A great way to kind of again, spread the message to, uh, the broader community about the opportunities that are out there. So that's tremendous. It's just a bit more about the coach that, uh, the coaching, um, uh, credentials, if you like, or the course that, uh, Robert and Phoebe have done, because that's a good thing as well. Like, not only can you be enthusiastic about it, but you can kind of take your enthusiasm to a level where you can, you know, spread the joy.

Yeah, absolutely. So they did a great interview with the project on channel ten a little while ago. Phoebe and and Robert have done the, um, foundational coaching. So they're able to teach Hot Shots tennis, which is, um, uh, modified tennis program with smaller nets and, and adapted rules as well. And so they can offer tennis coaching to people who are blind and low vision and also to people who are sighted. You know, you're.

Yeah, absolutely. So they did a great interview with the project on channel ten a little while ago. Phoebe and and Robert have done the, um, foundational coaching. So they're able to teach Hot Shots tennis, which is, um, uh, modified tennis program with smaller nets and, and adapted rules as well. And so they can offer tennis coaching to people who are blind and low vision and also to people who are sighted. You know, you're.

With, uh, Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria, but it's great when an organization offers opportunities like this, uh, to be able to also get into that coaching sphere, because I guess, in a sense, we all want to play forever. But, uh, and if we're like Robert and Phoebe and want to sort of spread the word about the sport, it's good to get that, uh, basic, uh, what we call it kind of formal coaching in the air as well. Like the enthusiasm is great, but have that formal education if you like, to back that up as well as is such an important thing.

With, uh, Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria, but it's great when an organization offers opportunities like this, uh, to be able to also get into that coaching sphere, because I guess, in a sense, we all want to play forever. But, uh, and if we're like Robert and Phoebe and want to sort of spread the word about the sport, it's good to get that, uh, basic, uh, what we call it kind of formal coaching in the air as well. Like the enthusiasm is great, but have that formal education if you like, to back that up as well as is such an important thing.

Yeah, absolutely. Um, and it provides a career pathway. It provides another way to contribute. And it's also building skills. And I think because both Robert and Phoebe experienced vision loss that they can offer like unique skills in offering coaching to other people with vision loss because they really get what it's like and can really kind of, um, yeah, provide instruction and support in a way that maybe sighted coaches wouldn't necessarily be able to that lived experience.

Yeah, absolutely. Um, and it provides a career pathway. It provides another way to contribute. And it's also building skills. And I think because both Robert and Phoebe experienced vision loss that they can offer like unique skills in offering coaching to other people with vision loss because they really get what it's like and can really kind of, um, yeah, provide instruction and support in a way that maybe sighted coaches wouldn't necessarily be able to that lived experience.

And if there's a bit of frustration or maybe the fact that, uh, it's not happening for me, the way it, uh, the way I want it to, they can kind of empathize with that rather than, um, sort of saying, oh, yeah, you'll be okay. They've kind of lived it, been through it. So you can kind of believe what they tell you. Uh, as far as their experiences go.

And if there's a bit of frustration or maybe the fact that, uh, it's not happening for me, the way it, uh, the way I want it to, they can kind of empathize with that rather than, um, sort of saying, oh, yeah, you'll be okay. They've kind of lived it, been through it. So you can kind of believe what they tell you. Uh, as far as their experiences go.

Yes, absolutely. That lived experience.

Yes, absolutely. That lived experience.

Rachel, you talked about, uh, Robert and I think Phoebe as well, kind of traveling with tennis. I mean, that's the other thing. Okay, we've got to come and try day this Sunday, which will be fantastic, but you don't know what it could lead to in terms of, uh, national and international representation.

Rachel, you talked about, uh, Robert and I think Phoebe as well, kind of traveling with tennis. I mean, that's the other thing. Okay, we've got to come and try day this Sunday, which will be fantastic, but you don't know what it could lead to in terms of, uh, national and international representation.

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of opportunities in blind sports for international travel or a cultural exchange travel. There's lots of different things going on. It's really amazing what opportunities are out there for people once they get involved in sports.

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of opportunities in blind sports for international travel or a cultural exchange travel. There's lots of different things going on. It's really amazing what opportunities are out there for people once they get involved in sports.

Not just the fact that you get to travel, but kind of experience other cultures, meet people from other countries, etc. and kind of, you know, make a new, lasting relationships from things like that as well.

Not just the fact that you get to travel, but kind of experience other cultures, meet people from other countries, etc. and kind of, you know, make a new, lasting relationships from things like that as well.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely.

Because I think there's quite a good circuit now established as far as blind tennis goes, I think most states have got uh, uh, state titles or uh, events in their city. So you could, you know, at least travel, uh, Australia and then, uh, you know, if, uh, form and uh, sort of opportunities to provide themselves, you can take that further as well. Yeah. All right. So, so these events, the gymnastics and the tennis are both at the same venue but at different times.

Because I think there's quite a good circuit now established as far as blind tennis goes, I think most states have got uh, uh, state titles or uh, events in their city. So you could, you know, at least travel, uh, Australia and then, uh, you know, if, uh, form and uh, sort of opportunities to provide themselves, you can take that further as well. Yeah. All right. So, so these events, the gymnastics and the tennis are both at the same venue but at different times.

That's right. Yeah. The gymnast gymnastics in the morning from 1030 to 1130 and blind tennis from 1 to 3 p.m. in the afternoon.

That's right. Yeah. The gymnast gymnastics in the morning from 1030 to 1130 and blind tennis from 1 to 3 p.m. in the afternoon.

Could people kind of make a day of it, maybe come and try both.

Could people kind of make a day of it, maybe come and try both.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.

All right. Get your money's worth. We'll have that for you anyway, aren't they. They're both are free.

All right. Get your money's worth. We'll have that for you anyway, aren't they. They're both are free.

Both free events. Yes. All right.

Both free events. Yes. All right.

You just before you leave this. So we obviously speak to a number of people on this program and, uh, I note that over the last few years, uh, the, um, Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria offered featuring the blind sports, uh, sorry, the, uh, Victorian Sports Awards for some of your programs. That must be very satisfying. Uh, being involved in an organization like that.

You just before you leave this. So we obviously speak to a number of people on this program and, uh, I note that over the last few years, uh, the, um, Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria offered featuring the blind sports, uh, sorry, the, uh, Victorian Sports Awards for some of your programs. That must be very satisfying. Uh, being involved in an organization like that.

Yes, it is really satisfying. Yeah. We've been so fortunate, especially the ambassador program, that we've had a bit to do with. It's been really great to see how we could really involve people, um, who have experienced our programs to promote and, and really get involved in supporting us to share this, the good news about the things that we're doing. So it's been such a wonderful acknowledgement of the hard work that that we've been doing as an organization. And, um, the value of what we've been able to contribute to others, that that being acknowledged and recognized has been really quite special. And it's a.

Yes, it is really satisfying. Yeah. We've been so fortunate, especially the ambassador program, that we've had a bit to do with. It's been really great to see how we could really involve people, um, who have experienced our programs to promote and, and really get involved in supporting us to share this, the good news about the things that we're doing. So it's been such a wonderful acknowledgement of the hard work that that we've been doing as an organization. And, um, the value of what we've been able to contribute to others, that that being acknowledged and recognized has been really quite special. And it's a.

Great way to get the message across to the broader community. I mean, I guess, you know, the blindness community is quite close knit. Uh, you know, everyone kind of knows what everyone is doing, if you know what I mean. But it's kind of great when the, uh, broader community can kind of be aware of, eh, the opportunities and be the outcomes and the successful outcomes of a lot of these programs.

Great way to get the message across to the broader community. I mean, I guess, you know, the blindness community is quite close knit. Uh, you know, everyone kind of knows what everyone is doing, if you know what I mean. But it's kind of great when the, uh, broader community can kind of be aware of, eh, the opportunities and be the outcomes and the successful outcomes of a lot of these programs.

Yes. Yeah. To be able to share the stories more widely and to give people an awareness of, um, what's possible for people with vision loss and the amazing things that they're doing. So it's really great in that regard.

Yes. Yeah. To be able to share the stories more widely and to give people an awareness of, um, what's possible for people with vision loss and the amazing things that they're doing. So it's really great in that regard.

You can always tap in with potential or volunteers or coaches or people that would like to get involved with the sport as well. So there's kind of that, uh, extra benefit that can come about from it as well. Yes.

You can always tap in with potential or volunteers or coaches or people that would like to get involved with the sport as well. So there's kind of that, uh, extra benefit that can come about from it as well. Yes.

Yeah. Just spreading the word and letting people know that they can get involved as well, that there's something here for everyone. And we have some amazing volunteers on our program as well that we really couldn't do what we do without them. So really grateful for all of our volunteers. Um, that help out.

Yeah. Just spreading the word and letting people know that they can get involved as well, that there's something here for everyone. And we have some amazing volunteers on our program as well that we really couldn't do what we do without them. So really grateful for all of our volunteers. Um, that help out.

That's your volunteer was lost. But but you can never yeah. Try and recognize the work of volunteers. Enough. So, Rachel, just give us those details. So, uh, the venues and the times, and then maybe give us a dominiques and also, uh, the number to Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria, if people do want to find out more.

That's your volunteer was lost. But but you can never yeah. Try and recognize the work of volunteers. Enough. So, Rachel, just give us those details. So, uh, the venues and the times, and then maybe give us a dominiques and also, uh, the number to Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria, if people do want to find out more.

Sure. So it's at Boroondara Disability Sport and Recreation Hub, which is at the Boroondara Sports Complex, which is 271 C Belmore Road in Balwyn. Um, if people are wanting to get in touch with us about the program at Blind Sports Recreation Victoria, they can call 98228876 and if they're wanting to RSVP to the event, they can email Dominic Holland from YMCA. That's Dominic, Dominic E, Dot Holland, double L and at YMCA Torgau.

Sure. So it's at Boroondara Disability Sport and Recreation Hub, which is at the Boroondara Sports Complex, which is 271 C Belmore Road in Balwyn. Um, if people are wanting to get in touch with us about the program at Blind Sports Recreation Victoria, they can call 98228876 and if they're wanting to RSVP to the event, they can email Dominic Holland from YMCA. That's Dominic, Dominic E, Dot Holland, double L and at YMCA Torgau.

Rachel, you do a great job. Thank you for sparing a bit of time for us to tell us about that. Let's hope that people come along and, uh, well, who knows, in weeks, months, years to come, that could be the start of something really big and important. And if nothing else, they're going to have a lot of fun, which is a great starting point.

Rachel, you do a great job. Thank you for sparing a bit of time for us to tell us about that. Let's hope that people come along and, uh, well, who knows, in weeks, months, years to come, that could be the start of something really big and important. And if nothing else, they're going to have a lot of fun, which is a great starting point.

Yeah, well, there was a story of one person involved in gymnastics program.

Yeah, well, there was a story of one person involved in gymnastics program.

He started out and was doing gymnastics for at least five years, all the way up until became a teenager and really loved it. So it's a really great thing to get involved in. I can't recommend it highly enough. And also, Peter, just thank you so much for this fantastic opportunity to spread the word about the program. It's been a real pleasure to talk to you.

He started out and was doing gymnastics for at least five years, all the way up until became a teenager and really loved it. So it's a really great thing to get involved in. I can't recommend it highly enough. And also, Peter, just thank you so much for this fantastic opportunity to spread the word about the program. It's been a real pleasure to talk to you.

The pleasure's been mine. Rachel hahaha that's fantastic. That's, uh. Rachel December there. Who's the program manager for Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria. They do a great job with the community and they come and try day this coming Sunday. If you've missed any of those details, they're up on our Facebook page.

The pleasure's been mine. Rachel hahaha that's fantastic. That's, uh. Rachel December there. Who's the program manager for Blind Sports and Recreation Victoria. They do a great job with the community and they come and try day this coming Sunday. If you've missed any of those details, they're up on our Facebook page.