Former Senator Gerard Rennick joins Peter to discuss the formation of the People First Party, his departure from the Liberal Party, and his vision for Australia's political and economic future.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Gerard outlines the party's focus on federal economic reform, reducing government duplication, supporting regional Australia, and proposed changes to taxation, housing and childcare. He also shares his views on the National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS), including concerns about service delivery, accountability and ensuring support reaches those who need it most.

The discussion explores the challenges facing regional communities, the importance of listening to people's lived experiences when developing policy, and why Gerard believes Australia's political system needs significant reform.

Whether you agree or disagree with his views, this interview offers an insight into the ideas and priorities shaping one of Australia's emerging political movements ahead of the next federal election.