It's fantastic to walk into a program. Three times Premiership player for the Hawks and also the business development manager for AP joint, Josh Gibson. Josh, great to meet you. Thanks for your time.

It's fantastic to walk into a program. Three times Premiership player for the Hawks and also the business development manager for AP joint, Josh Gibson. Josh, great to meet you. Thanks for your time.

Thanks for having.

Thanks for having.

Me. I know it's a little bit after the ball, but congratulations. That's a very stellar career you had.

Me. I know it's a little bit after the ball, but congratulations. That's a very stellar career you had.

Ah thank you. I was, uh, very lucky to play in such a successful side. A lot of good players.

Ah thank you. I was, uh, very lucky to play in such a successful side. A lot of good players.

We might to come back and talk a bit more about that if we have time. But, um, you've done some interesting research regarding into joint pain and the amount of people that have got it and some of the repercussions from it, particularly for mild joint pain.

We might to come back and talk a bit more about that if we have time. But, um, you've done some interesting research regarding into joint pain and the amount of people that have got it and some of the repercussions from it, particularly for mild joint pain.

Yeah. That's correct. We put together the epi joint pain report. And really it just exposed the prevalence of mild joint pain within the Australian community, a community. Sorry. With our findings really showing the significant in uh, impact. If I can get my words out and widespread uh, issue uh, with, you know, mild joint pain with amongst Australian community.

Yeah. That's correct. We put together the epi joint pain report. And really it just exposed the prevalence of mild joint pain within the Australian community, a community. Sorry. With our findings really showing the significant in uh, impact. If I can get my words out and widespread uh, issue uh, with, you know, mild joint pain with amongst Australian community.

We surprised about some of the outcomes of the research.

We surprised about some of the outcomes of the research.

Probably I was I was really surprised that, you know, one third were reporting daily pain at a mild intensity level. And despite that prevalence, 1 in 7 of them actually blamed another factor, uh, for their, their pain. And, uh, I was really, really taken back by that stat.

Probably I was I was really surprised that, you know, one third were reporting daily pain at a mild intensity level. And despite that prevalence, 1 in 7 of them actually blamed another factor, uh, for their, their pain. And, uh, I was really, really taken back by that stat.

Another interesting, uh, kind of part of that is the fact that, uh, when people kind of reported that some people were saying, well, maybe it wasn't actually there or it might have been something else, you know, in terms of, I guess, the allied professionals that were treating them as well.

Another interesting, uh, kind of part of that is the fact that, uh, when people kind of reported that some people were saying, well, maybe it wasn't actually there or it might have been something else, you know, in terms of, I guess, the allied professionals that were treating them as well.

Yeah. And, um, you know, that was you know, the findings really highlighted that a lot of Aussies who have mild joint pain reported their current method for managing their pain, wasn't working or or wasn't sustainable for long term. And they all and they often, as you said, thought that their um, that they blame their mild joint pain being on being blamed on other factors. So it was really surprising to see those results.

Yeah. And, um, you know, that was you know, the findings really highlighted that a lot of Aussies who have mild joint pain reported their current method for managing their pain, wasn't working or or wasn't sustainable for long term. And they all and they often, as you said, thought that their um, that they blame their mild joint pain being on being blamed on other factors. So it was really surprising to see those results.

In terms of managing it. Uh, a number of people were kind of just taking over the counter medication and, I don't know, maybe hoping it would work, or perhaps a friend told them, maybe not necessarily, uh, sort of, uh, dedicated to their particular issue. Yeah.

In terms of managing it. Uh, a number of people were kind of just taking over the counter medication and, I don't know, maybe hoping it would work, or perhaps a friend told them, maybe not necessarily, uh, sort of, uh, dedicated to their particular issue. Yeah.

Look, a lot of people are using, you know, using a pain prevention method to try and seek relief. And and in doing that, they're using non-prescription painkillers, as you mentioned, over the counter stuff, anti-inflammatories, you know, paracetamol, ibuprofen, all of these type of things to to try and manage mild joint pain when really all you're doing there is uh, is treating pain, which is just a symptom.

Look, a lot of people are using, you know, using a pain prevention method to try and seek relief. And and in doing that, they're using non-prescription painkillers, as you mentioned, over the counter stuff, anti-inflammatories, you know, paracetamol, ibuprofen, all of these type of things to to try and manage mild joint pain when really all you're doing there is uh, is treating pain, which is just a symptom.

And I guess one of the things about something like that is that, you know, we often hear about, uh, particularly the long term effects of some of these medications that it can have on, um, sort of other parts of our body, if I can put it that way.

And I guess one of the things about something like that is that, you know, we often hear about, uh, particularly the long term effects of some of these medications that it can have on, um, sort of other parts of our body, if I can put it that way.

Yeah. You can. Look, I know myself from personal experience taking a lot of, um, anti-inflammatories and the effect that can have on your guts long term and, and, you know, that's why ultimately we came out with a product like, uh, achy joint. Our hero ingredient, epithallus, is, uh, it's 100% natural. So, yes, it is proven to work against mild joint aches and pains and mild osteoarthritis. But, you know, you're taking something that's that's natural and is safe to do so long term.

Yeah. You can. Look, I know myself from personal experience taking a lot of, um, anti-inflammatories and the effect that can have on your guts long term and, and, you know, that's why ultimately we came out with a product like, uh, achy joint. Our hero ingredient, epithallus, is, uh, it's 100% natural. So, yes, it is proven to work against mild joint aches and pains and mild osteoarthritis. But, you know, you're taking something that's that's natural and is safe to do so long term.

What about as far as, I guess, the the joints in the body that are most affected. Is there any information about that?

What about as far as, I guess, the the joints in the body that are most affected. Is there any information about that?

I it really is a case by case. You know, you see a lot of people, um, fingers, hands, you know, a big one coming into winter is people really noticing their fingers as it gets in those colder days. And, you know, the inability to to use them at full capacity. Another one, as you know, is going to be, um, things like knees. So, you know, they're the ones that really pop up as you start entering those winter months.

I it really is a case by case. You know, you see a lot of people, um, fingers, hands, you know, a big one coming into winter is people really noticing their fingers as it gets in those colder days. And, you know, the inability to to use them at full capacity. Another one, as you know, is going to be, um, things like knees. So, you know, they're the ones that really pop up as you start entering those winter months.

And we're talking about mild pain. So I guess it's not the sort of thing that, uh, you necessarily go to emergency for or necessarily need a knee replacement or a hip replacement, but that kind of annoying stuff. And as you say, a lot of people were kind of, uh, experiencing it every day, which is obviously impacting on their quality of life. Yeah, it.

And we're talking about mild pain. So I guess it's not the sort of thing that, uh, you necessarily go to emergency for or necessarily need a knee replacement or a hip replacement, but that kind of annoying stuff. And as you say, a lot of people were kind of, uh, experiencing it every day, which is obviously impacting on their quality of life. Yeah, it.

Is. And what you also know is that people, you see stories that people try to compensate, um, for those areas that are, that have got some discomfort. You know, I know myself, I'm playing football. I had some bad arthritis in one of my middle fingers, and it didn't like being in a bent position, so I'd always find that I'd grip the steering wheel harder with my left hand than my right hand to try and compensate for that sore finger. So, you know, that's where you start to see from people is that they, um, you know, they try to not use those, those limbs or body parts and, and, um, ultimately that's not going to help us long time and, and try to live out our life to the most fullest possible.

Is. And what you also know is that people, you see stories that people try to compensate, um, for those areas that are, that have got some discomfort. You know, I know myself, I'm playing football. I had some bad arthritis in one of my middle fingers, and it didn't like being in a bent position, so I'd always find that I'd grip the steering wheel harder with my left hand than my right hand to try and compensate for that sore finger. So, you know, that's where you start to see from people is that they, um, you know, they try to not use those, those limbs or body parts and, and, um, ultimately that's not going to help us long time and, and try to live out our life to the most fullest possible.

And I guess that's an important point, Josh, because you're a young man compared to many people who would be much older and you kind of think are mild joint pain, it's sort of, uh, impacting on older people. But obviously that's not necessarily the case.

And I guess that's an important point, Josh, because you're a young man compared to many people who would be much older and you kind of think are mild joint pain, it's sort of, uh, impacting on older people. But obviously that's not necessarily the case.

No it's not. And you know, like, I mean I'm in that 40 bracket. But again, in the study, we saw that 2 in 5 people over the age of 55 were enduring discomfort. So, you know, I still like to think that 55 is not that old Nate as well. But, uh, but no, as you say, like, you know, there are people, you know, below that age bracket that are that are suffering from mild joint aches and pains and probably aren't diagnosing it properly or paying it enough respect.

No it's not. And you know, like, I mean I'm in that 40 bracket. But again, in the study, we saw that 2 in 5 people over the age of 55 were enduring discomfort. So, you know, I still like to think that 55 is not that old Nate as well. But, uh, but no, as you say, like, you know, there are people, you know, below that age bracket that are that are suffering from mild joint aches and pains and probably aren't diagnosing it properly or paying it enough respect.

What about in terms of kind of other approaches I'm thinking in terms of. Maybe warming up if we're doing some exercise or indeed getting around to kind of doing a bit of movement, kind of use it rather than lose it, those sort of sort of other approaches as well as just sort of, you know, taking uh, substances or taking medications for it. Yeah.

What about in terms of kind of other approaches I'm thinking in terms of. Maybe warming up if we're doing some exercise or indeed getting around to kind of doing a bit of movement, kind of use it rather than lose it, those sort of sort of other approaches as well as just sort of, you know, taking uh, substances or taking medications for it. Yeah.

You're spot on. Look, you know, you know, be taking epigene is a, uh, is a wonderful way to help, no doubt. But, you know, people that are active and get up and are moving and trying to stretch and, and and stay mobile. A great ways to continue to, to minimize joint aches and pains over time. So, you know, but everyone sort of finds stretching annoying. But these are the type of things you can do that can really, um, be beneficial in the long term.

You're spot on. Look, you know, you know, be taking epigene is a, uh, is a wonderful way to help, no doubt. But, you know, people that are active and get up and are moving and trying to stretch and, and and stay mobile. A great ways to continue to, to minimize joint aches and pains over time. So, you know, but everyone sort of finds stretching annoying. But these are the type of things you can do that can really, um, be beneficial in the long term.

And you kind of touched on it briefly, but we're now we're into June into June, I should say. And, you know, I think there's no doubt, uh, regardless of whether we've got a lot of pain or a bit of pain, it all seems a bit worse during the winter. No it does.

And you kind of touched on it briefly, but we're now we're into June into June, I should say. And, you know, I think there's no doubt, uh, regardless of whether we've got a lot of pain or a bit of pain, it all seems a bit worse during the winter. No it does.

These are the months that it pops up in those in those colder months, for it takes our body a little bit longer to get going. So any, any um, joint aches and pains are amplified in those colder, colder months of the year for sure.

These are the months that it pops up in those in those colder months, for it takes our body a little bit longer to get going. So any, any um, joint aches and pains are amplified in those colder, colder months of the year for sure.

Can you tell us a bit more about, uh, the work that's gone into, uh, your or your product? And also, I guess the research from the, um, what the results from the research that's gone on into it. Yeah.

Can you tell us a bit more about, uh, the work that's gone into, uh, your or your product? And also, I guess the research from the, um, what the results from the research that's gone on into it. Yeah.

Look, as you said, we've done that here in study at Interpath. We just we specialize in making joint products. We look at joint health. So we've got epi joint, which is our human product. We've also made uh, we have another brand called foresight that we've made for cats, dogs and horses. So we've been doing this for a long period of time. And joint health is what we know. And and that's why we came out with epi joint. It's it's very simple. It's a very small soft gel capsule. Um, so you're not going to get pill fatigue. I know that that's such a thing. People worry about having to take these big horse pills, but it's very small and very effective. So and the great thing is that Sonic Chemist Warehouse. So it seems to be there's a chemist warehouse near everyone these days.

Look, as you said, we've done that here in study at Interpath. We just we specialize in making joint products. We look at joint health. So we've got epi joint, which is our human product. We've also made uh, we have another brand called foresight that we've made for cats, dogs and horses. So we've been doing this for a long period of time. And joint health is what we know. And and that's why we came out with epi joint. It's it's very simple. It's a very small soft gel capsule. Um, so you're not going to get pill fatigue. I know that that's such a thing. People worry about having to take these big horse pills, but it's very small and very effective. So and the great thing is that Sonic Chemist Warehouse. So it seems to be there's a chemist warehouse near everyone these days.

That's so true. What about the kind of the active ingredient or the thing that makes it work? Can you share that with us? Yeah.

That's so true. What about the kind of the active ingredient or the thing that makes it work? Can you share that with us? Yeah.

So it's, uh, it's called epi talas. It's a patent ingredient that we've got. And it's patented for chondrocyte cell proliferation. So the ability to regenerate cartilage and and also as an anti-inflammatory. So two really strong, um, effective points there. And being natural, it's a, uh, it's a great alternative to some of the other options on the market.

So it's, uh, it's called epi talas. It's a patent ingredient that we've got. And it's patented for chondrocyte cell proliferation. So the ability to regenerate cartilage and and also as an anti-inflammatory. So two really strong, um, effective points there. And being natural, it's a, uh, it's a great alternative to some of the other options on the market.

Is there kind of a derivative derivative of, uh, chondroitin. Is it like that?

Is there kind of a derivative derivative of, uh, chondroitin. Is it like that?

No, it's a different conjugate. And so it's, uh, it comes from a plant. Um, and yeah, it's uh, bio orientalis. So, um, very different to, to other products that people have have probably tried in the past.

No, it's a different conjugate. And so it's, uh, it comes from a plant. Um, and yeah, it's uh, bio orientalis. So, um, very different to, to other products that people have have probably tried in the past.

And if people on the conventional medication or other medication, is there any contra indicators?

And if people on the conventional medication or other medication, is there any contra indicators?

Oh, look, you know, it's always something that you've got to speak to your GP and make sure that there is, um, that there's no going to be side effects by taking other medications as well. But, you know, being a natural product haven't seen any of those results. But again, you need to you need to check with your GP.

Oh, look, you know, it's always something that you've got to speak to your GP and make sure that there is, um, that there's no going to be side effects by taking other medications as well. But, you know, being a natural product haven't seen any of those results. But again, you need to you need to check with your GP.

Yeah. Good. Have a good relationship with them and or your pharmacist. Josh and I get a chance to speak to her three times. Um, uh, AFL premiership player too often. So do you reflect much back on your career?

Yeah. Good. Have a good relationship with them and or your pharmacist. Josh and I get a chance to speak to her three times. Um, uh, AFL premiership player too often. So do you reflect much back on your career?

I'm trying to watch it. Uh, watch footy for now and on. And that tends to take you back to the glory days. But, you know, it's, um. We've got our Premiership reunion coming up this weekend, so for for what is it, uh, 2014. So I'm sure there'll be many of stories told and memories shared on this Saturday afternoon.

I'm trying to watch it. Uh, watch footy for now and on. And that tends to take you back to the glory days. But, you know, it's, um. We've got our Premiership reunion coming up this weekend, so for for what is it, uh, 2014. So I'm sure there'll be many of stories told and memories shared on this Saturday afternoon.

And you talked about the had good teammates. I guess that's part of the issue as well. Or part of the challenge that you need to get a good team together. And you came from another club to get to Hawthorn at the right time. Sometimes it's all about the timing.

And you talked about the had good teammates. I guess that's part of the issue as well. Or part of the challenge that you need to get a good team together. And you came from another club to get to Hawthorn at the right time. Sometimes it's all about the timing.

It is. Yeah. If you're you're talking about business decision, I'd have to say it was a pretty smart one because, uh, you know, I look back and win three grand finals and three premierships and play in four grand finals in a row. Was was a pretty special moment.

It is. Yeah. If you're you're talking about business decision, I'd have to say it was a pretty smart one because, uh, you know, I look back and win three grand finals and three premierships and play in four grand finals in a row. Was was a pretty special moment.

And what about, uh, working in the work that you do now? Is that kind of almost through lived experience? Uh, you touched on them having issues with your fingers, etc.? Is that kind of what got you into this area of work and sort of, uh, promotion? Uh, well.

And what about, uh, working in the work that you do now? Is that kind of almost through lived experience? Uh, you touched on them having issues with your fingers, etc.? Is that kind of what got you into this area of work and sort of, uh, promotion? Uh, well.

I'm very big into the horse space as well. Um, I do an Aussie sport called Campdrafting. So, you know, from the years of me being an athlete, I was, you know, really understand how important it is to look after your body. And, and, you know, I think probably people just get on a horse and think you kick them and they can just run all day. And that's not the case. So, you know, through through that field and foresight, it was a it was a natural punch. It made in heaven. And here we are.

I'm very big into the horse space as well. Um, I do an Aussie sport called Campdrafting. So, you know, from the years of me being an athlete, I was, you know, really understand how important it is to look after your body. And, and, you know, I think probably people just get on a horse and think you kick them and they can just run all day. And that's not the case. So, you know, through through that field and foresight, it was a it was a natural punch. It made in heaven. And here we are.

A lot of people are very fond of their pets, aren't they. You talked about horses, but cats are dogs in particular. They can be a lot of comfort to people who might be on their own. Uh, you know, things like helping reduce blood pressure in aged care facilities. Pets can be really, really important. So, uh, it kind of important to look after them as well, though it certainly is.

A lot of people are very fond of their pets, aren't they. You talked about horses, but cats are dogs in particular. They can be a lot of comfort to people who might be on their own. Uh, you know, things like helping reduce blood pressure in aged care facilities. Pets can be really, really important. So, uh, it kind of important to look after them as well, though it certainly is.

And as you said, they're an extension of our families, uh, you know, whether they're almost like another child. So, um, you know, they, they play a really important role in your life in so many facets from relieving stress and all of these type of things. And they are companion animals, and we want to look after them as well.

And as you said, they're an extension of our families, uh, you know, whether they're almost like another child. So, um, you know, they, they play a really important role in your life in so many facets from relieving stress and all of these type of things. And they are companion animals, and we want to look after them as well.

Josh, if people want to find out more, where's the good place to go? Chemist warehouse? I guess he touched on.

Josh, if people want to find out more, where's the good place to go? Chemist warehouse? I guess he touched on.

Yeah. Of course you can drop into Chemist Warehouse and speak to a pharmacist or, uh, pop online and visit our website, which is web joint global.

Yeah. Of course you can drop into Chemist Warehouse and speak to a pharmacist or, uh, pop online and visit our website, which is web joint global.

Terrific. We can put that up on Facebook. Josh, great to catch up. As I said, not every day you get a chance to speak to a three times Premiership player. But I've really enjoyed it. And uh, all the best for you and your future.

Terrific. We can put that up on Facebook. Josh, great to catch up. As I said, not every day you get a chance to speak to a three times Premiership player. But I've really enjoyed it. And uh, all the best for you and your future.

Thanks so much.

Thanks so much.

Appreciate it. That's sir Josh Gibson there talking to us about epi joint. Uh, he's the business development manager for EPI and certainly very, very important to look after your joints.

Appreciate it. That's sir Josh Gibson there talking to us about epi joint. Uh, he's the business development manager for EPI and certainly very, very important to look after your joints.