Companies that execute transformations with rigor are much more likely to achieve their goals, generate higher total shareholder returns, and enjoy better organizational health. In this episode, Preeya Mody and Dominic Skerritt join host Sean Brown to share insights from their latest research on the role of rigor in driving and sustaining successful transformations. They discuss what defines rigor in a transformation, explore the three elements that rigorous transformations consistently demonstrate, and share practical advice for sustaining momentum without burning out teams.

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Companies that execute transformations with rigor are much more likely to achieve their goals, generate higher total shareholder returns, and enjoy better organizational health. In this episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/preeyamody/">Preeya Mody</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominic-skerritt/">Dominic Skerritt</a> join host Sean Brown to share insights from their latest research on the role of rigor in driving and sustaining successful transformations. They discuss what defines rigor in a transformation, explore the three elements that rigorous transformations consistently demonstrate, and share practical advice for sustaining momentum without burning out teams.
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Generative AI is reshaping the way investors evaluate opportunities and replacing much of the manual work involved in completing an outside-in diligence. Firms that adapt the fastest during this transition have the most to gain. To discuss how the deployment of gen AI in diligence can give organizations an investment edge and explore the shift from traditional diligence to AI-enabled, outside-in analysis we&rsquo;re joined by <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/david-pralong">David Pralong</a>, a senior partner and the global leader of our Transformation Practice,&nbsp; William Bundy, a partner in our Washington D.C office, <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/chase-covington">Chase Covington</a>, a partner based in our New York office, and Laura Borton, a consultant also based in our New York office.
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