This week, we’re joined by Scott Herren, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Cisco Systems, and Eric Kutcher, Senior Partner and Chair of McKinsey & Company, North America. They discuss the rationale for Cisco's recent acquisition, the role of CFOs in driving change within a company, the impact of AI on finance, and the current geopolitical and economic climate. 

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The Seasons of the CFO

Palo Alto Networks CFO on AI, cybersecurity, and the finance leader’s mandate

Data, analytics, and decisions: An interview with Teradata’s CFO

This week, we’re joined by <a href="https://newsroom.cisco.com/c/r/newsroom/en/us/executives/r-scott-herren.html#:~:text=R.,billion%20and%20approximately%2090%2C000%20employees.">Scott Herren</a>, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Cisco Systems, and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/eric-kutcher">Eric Kutcher</a>, Senior Partner and Chair of McKinsey &amp; Company, North America. They discuss the rationale for Cisco's recent acquisition, the role of CFOs in driving change within a company, the impact of AI on finance, and the current geopolitical and economic climate. Related insights:
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/the-four-seasons-of-the-cfo">The Seasons of the CFO</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/palo-alto-networks-cfo-on-ai-cybersecurity-and-the-finance-leaders-mandate">Palo Alto Networks CFO on AI, cybersecurity, and the finance leader’s mandate</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/data-analytics-and-decisions-an-interview-with-teradatas-cfo">Data, analytics, and decisions: An interview with Teradata’s CFO</a>

We talk with McKinsey partners and corporate executives on the challenges they face creating lasting strategies in a fast-changing world. We also examine the different ways these executives approach these challenges and the new and innovative ways they think of creating a vision for their enterprises.

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The world is moving faster, and as upheaval becomes the norm, vast business opportunities will be within the grasp of the extraordinary few.  But it takes bold people and courageous approaches to seize those opportunities and create value.

In each episode of our weekly podcast, we interview the world’s highest-performing CEOs, CFOs, innovators, and McKinsey experts and discuss how they build the courage, clarity, conviction, and cohesion that allow their businesses to win by moving faster than the world around them. 

The world is moving faster, and as upheaval becomes the norm, vast business opportunities will be within the grasp of the extraordinary few. &nbsp;But it takes bold people and courageous approaches to seize those opportunities and create value.
In each episode of our weekly podcast, we interview the world&rsquo;s highest-performing CEOs, CFOs, innovators, and McKinsey experts and discuss how they build the courage, clarity, conviction, and cohesion that allow their businesses to win by moving faster than the world around them.&nbsp;

218. Cisco Systems CFO on M&A, geopolitics, and the emerging AI opportunity

McKinsey research finds that companies executing transformations with rigor are much more likely to meet overall organizational transformation goals. Chris Hagedorn, Preeya Mody, and Michel Morenville join us to discuss what rigor really means in the context of transformation and how to embed it throughout the process, from setting the aspiration to mobilizing to delivering impact.

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Rigor: What it takes to turn ambition into impact

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Wave by McKinsey

McKinsey Insights on Transformation

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The powerful role financial incentives can play in a transformation

McKinsey Transformation on LinkedIn

McKinsey research finds that companies executing transformations with rigor are much more likely to meet overall organizational&nbsp;transformation goals. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/chris-hagedorn?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=CL4C">Chris Hagedorn</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/preeyamody">Preeya Mody</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelmorenville/">Michel Morenville</a> join us to discuss what rigor really means in the context of transformation and how to embed it throughout the process, from setting the aspiration to mobilizing&nbsp;to delivering impact.
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<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/rigor-what-it-takes-to-turn-ambition-into-impact">Rigor: What it takes to turn ambition into impact</a>
<a href="https://omny.fm/shows/inside-the-strategy-room/296-the-power-of-rigor-in-transformation">The power of rigor in transformation</a> (podcast episode)
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/how-we-help-clients/wave/overview">Wave by McKinsey</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights">McKinsey Insights on Transformation</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/how-to-gain-and-sustain-a-competitive-edge-through-transformation">How to gain and sustain a competitive edge through transformation</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/going-all-in-why-employee-will-can-make-or-break-transformations">Going all in: Why employee &lsquo;will&rsquo; can make or break transformations</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/growth-marketing-and-sales/our-insights/seven-principles-for-achieving-transformational-growth">Seven principles for achieving transformational growth</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/beyond-transformation-what-we-now-know-about-driving-bottom-line-performance">Beyond transformation: What we now know about driving bottom-line performance</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/the-powerful-role-financial-incentives-can-play-in-a-transformation">The powerful role financial incentives can play in a transformation</a>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mckinsey-transformation/">McKinsey Transformation on LinkedIn</a>

323. How to drive transformations with rigor 

Real estate is moving from stabilization to selective acceleration, with value creation becoming more targeted, operational, and execution-led. As capital concentrates in select sectors and strategies, leaders need sharper asset selection, disciplined capital structures, and stronger AI-enabled capabilities. Ben Dimson, Tripp Norton, and Aditya Sanghvi discuss how General Partners, Limited Partners, and real estate operators can turn market complexity into an advantage, drawing on research from their recent article.

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Real estate’s selective recovery

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2026 Global Private Markets Report: Private equity−clearer view, tougher terrain

Real estate is moving from stabilization to selective acceleration, with value creation becoming more targeted, operational, and execution-led. As capital concentrates in select sectors and strategies, leaders need sharper asset selection, disciplined capital structures, and stronger AI-enabled capabilities. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/ben-dimson?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=%7b%7blead.SFDC%20Id:default=CL4C%7d%7d">Ben Dimson</a>, <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Ftrippnorton&amp;data=05%7C02%7CClare_Kitada-SYDN%40external.mckinsey.com%7C9cf981f240e7412a8fab08df09158b39%7Ccc8936bc93824fff87cb6f55999549e7%7C0%7C0%7C639239660502865651%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=LXrLRRLkIpc960TcIa74AXYlQozOlYxl5GKN3HWxUD4%3D&amp;reserved=0">Tripp Norton</a>, and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/aditya-sanghvi">Aditya Sanghvi</a>&nbsp;discuss how General Partners, Limited Partners, and real estate operators can turn market complexity into an advantage, drawing on research from their recent <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/real-estate">article</a>. Related insights
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/real-estate">Real estate builds on new terrain</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/charts/real-estates-selective-recovery">Real estate&rsquo;s selective recovery</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/how-agentic-ai-can-reshape-real-estates-operating-model">How agentic AI can reshape real estate&rsquo;s operating model</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=%7b%7blead.SFDC%20Id:default=CL4C%7d%7d">2026 Global Private Markets Report</a><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/private-equity">: </a><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/private-equity">Private equity&minus;clearer view, tougher terrain</a>

322. Capturing value in real estate’s new terrain

Private equity is navigating one of its most challenging value creation environments in years, and winning firms are using M&A integration as a competitive weapon. Brian Dinneen and Matthew Maloney join us to discuss three high-impact integration strategies that leading sponsors are using to overcome these headwinds, based on their recent article.

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Transforming value creation in private equity portfolio companies (podcast)

Private Capital at McKinsey

Private equity is navigating one of its most challenging value creation environments in years, and winning firms are using M&amp;A integration as a competitive weapon. <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fbriandinneen%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7CClare_Kitada-SYDN%40external.mckinsey.com%7C7506471714a14b05d31808df091095a3%7Ccc8936bc93824fff87cb6f55999549e7%7C0%7C0%7C639239639019051631%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=HYiCoifRMPX8h0et4FegMlCm50f4qVKps51HeRwChAI%3D&amp;reserved=0">Brian Dinneen</a>&nbsp;and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/matthew-maloney?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=%7b%7blead.SFDC%20Id:default=CL4C%7d%7d">Matthew Maloney</a>&nbsp;join us to discuss three high-impact integration strategies that leading sponsors are using to overcome these headwinds, based on their recent <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-private-equity-is-using-m-and-a-integrations-to-overcome-headwinds?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=%7b%7blead.SFDC%20Id:default=CL4C%7d%7d">article</a>.
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<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-private-equity-is-using-m-and-a-integrations-to-overcome-headwinds">How private equity is using M&amp;A integrations to overcome headwinds</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/unlocking-full-potential-five-practices-reshaping-pe-value-creation">Unlocking full potential: Five practices reshaping PE value creation</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=%7b%7blead.SFDC%20Id:default=CL4C%7d%7d">2026 Global Private Markets Report</a><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/private-equity">: </a><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/private-equity">Private equity&minus;clearer view, tougher terrain</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/beating-the-odds-how-private-equity-firms-can-improve-exit-prospects">Beating the odds: How private equity firms can improve exit prospects</a>
<a href="https://omny.fm/shows/inside-the-strategy-room/306-transforming-value-creation-in-private-equity-portfolio-companies">Transforming value creation in private equity portfolio companies</a> (podcast) <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights">Private Capital at McKinsey</a>

218. Cisco Systems CFO on M&A, geopolitics, and the emerging AI opportunity

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