We discuss the role M&A can play in the launch and success of large-scale transformations. Our guests are Chris Hagedorn and Alex Liu. Chris is a leader in our Transformation Practice, where he designs and executes comprehensive transformations, including M&A integration and value capture to achieve rapid and sustainable performance improvement for clients. 

Alex is a leader in our M&A Practice. He works closely with senior leadership teams on large-scale mergers and brings expertise in realizing revenue-based synergies. 

Chris and Alex's recent McKinsey.com article: When a transaction forges a transformation 

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We discuss the role M&amp;A can play in the launch and success of large-scale transformations. Our guests are <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/chris-hagedorn">Chris Hagedorn</a> and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/alex-liu">Alex Liu. </a>Chris is a leader in our Transformation Practice, where he designs and executes comprehensive transformations, including M&amp;A integration and value capture to achieve rapid and sustainable performance improvement for clients. Alex is a leader in our M&amp;A Practice. He works closely with senior leadership teams on large-scale mergers and brings expertise in realizing revenue-based synergies. 
Chris and Alex's recent McKinsey.com article: <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/when-a-transaction-forges-a-transformation">When a transaction forges a transformation </a>
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In each episode of our weekly podcast, we interview the world’s highest-performing CEOs, CFOs, innovators, and McKinsey experts and discuss how they build the courage, clarity, conviction, and cohesion that allow their businesses to win by moving faster than the world around them. 

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192. Using M&A to launch a transformation

More than 55 percent of large spin-offs fail to deliver the expected value three years post-spin; this is true for both the parent and the new company. However, even in today’s complex macro environment, there is plenty of spin activity as companies look outside the portfolio in pursuit of more focused strategies, fit-for-purpose operating models, and optimized capital management.

Join us as Jamie Koenig and Anna Mattson, co-leaders of our Global Separations Practice, discuss their recent article on the topic and step through five critical moves that help increase the odds of spin-off success. They also share a wealth of insights gleaned from several decades of deal experience, including what a new SpinCo CEO should expect.  

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More than 55 percent of large spin-offs fail to deliver the expected value three years post-spin; this is true for both the parent and the new company. However, even in today&rsquo;s complex macro environment, there is plenty of spin activity as companies look outside the portfolio in pursuit of more focused strategies, fit-for-purpose operating models, and optimized capital management.
Join us as&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/jamie-koenig?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=CL4C">Jamie Koenig</a> and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/anna-mattsson?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=CL4C">Anna Mattson</a>, co-leaders of our Global Separations Practice, discuss <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/m-and-a/our-insights/beating-the-odds-what-really-matters-for-successful-spin-offs?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=CL4C">their recent article</a> on the topic and step through five critical moves that help increase the odds of spin-off success. They also share a wealth of insights gleaned from several decades of deal experience, including what a new SpinCo CEO should expect.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Related Insights
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/m-and-a/our-insights/beating-the-odds-what-really-matters-for-successful-spin-offs?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=CL4C">Beating the odds: What really matters for successful spin-offs</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/m-and-a/our-insights/top-m-and-a-trends">2026 M&amp;A trends: Navigating a rapidly rebounding market</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/when-separating-businesses-people-are-the-key-to-unleashing-value">When separating businesses, people are the key to unleashing value</a>

309. Five key moves to create value in spinoffs

Today’s board members face growing demands on their time. A challenging macro environment and ever-evolving business risks are increasing meeting frequency and requiring faster decision-making. For executives considering a board role, the developmental opportunity may be clear — but what does the role really involve?

In this episode, McKinsey senior partner emeritus and board director, Celia Huber speaks with Christiana Smith Shi. Christiana is the former President of Nike’s direct-to-consumer division and a seasoned board member with over 14 years of service, including on the boards of Williams Sonoma and Mondelēz International. She currently serves on the boards of Columbia Sportswear and UPS, and as Chair of Habitat for Humanity. In a wide-ranging conversation, Christiana opens the boardroom door to discuss topics including the differences between not-for-profit and corporate boards, the dynamics of CEO transitions, and what drives board effectiveness.

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Today&rsquo;s board members face growing demands on their time. A challenging macro environment and ever-evolving business risks are increasing meeting frequency and requiring faster decision-making. For executives considering a board role, the developmental opportunity may be clear &mdash; but what does the role really involve? In this episode, McKinsey senior partner emeritus and board director, Celia Huber speaks with Christiana Smith Shi. Christiana is the former President of Nike&rsquo;s direct-to-consumer division and a seasoned board member with over 14 years of service, including on the boards of Williams Sonoma and Mondelēz International. She currently serves on the boards of Columbia Sportswear and UPS, and as Chair of Habitat for Humanity. In a wide-ranging conversation, Christiana opens the boardroom door to discuss topics including the differences between not-for-profit and corporate boards, the dynamics of CEO transitions, and what drives board effectiveness.
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<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/leadership/the-board-perspective-number-4">The Board Perspective </a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-boards-can-tackle-geopolitical-risk">How boards can tackle geopolitical risk</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/mckinsey-technology/overview/cybersecurity/the-boards-role-in-managing-emerging-ai-risks">The board&rsquo;s role in managing emerging AI risks</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/mckinsey-technology/our-insights/the-ai-reckoning-how-boards-can-evolve">The AI reckoning: How boards can evolve</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/locations/mckinsey-client-capabilities-network/our-work/strategic-and-change-communications/the-communications-exchange/ceo-insights-forging-stronger-ceo-board-partnerships">CEO Insights: Forging stronger CEO&ndash;board partnerships</a>

308. From the C-Suite to the boardroom: Christiana Smith Shi on what it takes 

Buy-side carve-outs can create significant value for acquiring companies, but they can also present complex challenges. In this episode, we’re joined by Kameron Kordestani, Anna Mattson, and Rui Silva to discuss how leaders—particularly CFOs, integration managers, and CHROs—must balance financial structuring, operational planning, and people management to ensure a value-creating transition.

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Solving the carve-out conundrum

Buy-side carve-outs can create significant value for acquiring companies, but they can also present complex challenges. In this episode, we&rsquo;re joined by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kameronkordestani">Kameron Kordestani</a>, <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/anna-mattsson">Anna Mattson</a>, and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/rui-silva">Rui Silva</a> to discuss how leaders&mdash;particularly CFOs, integration managers, and CHROs&mdash;must balance financial structuring, operational planning, and people management to ensure a value-creating transition.
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<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/the-power-of-goodbye-how-carve-outs-can-unleash-value">The power of goodbye: How carve-outs can unleash value</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/solving-the-carve-out-conundrum">Solving the carve-out conundrum</a>

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