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Great CEOs know that the transition to their successor will define their legacy and cement the strength of what they’ve built. We speak with three McKinsey experts about how the best CEOs prepare for the final phase of their tenure. We're joined by <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/carolyn-dewar">Carolyn Dewar</a>, a senior partner in our Bay Area office, <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/blair-epstein">Blair Epstein,</a> a partner also based in San Fransisco, and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/kurt-strovink">Kurt Strovink</a>, a senior partner in our New York office. 
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We're joined by Charles Conn and Rob McLean, AM, the co-authors of The Imperfectionists: Strategic Mindsets for Uncertain Times. 

Charles is an investor, environmentalist, and entrepreneur. He co-founded Monograph, a venture firm, and was previously CEO of the Rhodes Trust in Oxford. He is the Board Chair of Patagonia and sits on The Nature Conservancy European Council. He was the founding CEO of Ticketmaster-Citysearch and a partner at McKinsey & Company. 

Rob is a Director Emeritus of McKinsey & Company, a Trustee of The Nature Conservancy in Australia and Asia, and a Director of the Paul Ramsay Foundation, Australia’s largest philanthropic foundation. He is the former Dean of the Australian Graduate School of Management. He was a Fulbright Scholar at the Columbia University Graduate School of Business.

Rob and Charles' books can be found here: https://bulletproofproblemsolving.com/

You can also listen to their previous interview on Inside the Strategy Room or read the edited transcript on McKinsey.com. 

 

We're joined by Charles Conn and Rob McLean, AM, the co-authors of <a href="The%20Imperfectionists:%20Strategic%20Mindsets%20for%20Uncertain%20Times">The Imperfectionists: Strategic Mindsets for Uncertain Times</a>. Charles is an investor, environmentalist, and entrepreneur. He co-founded Monograph, a venture firm, and was previously CEO of the Rhodes Trust in Oxford. He is the Board Chair of Patagonia and sits on The Nature Conservancy European Council. He was the founding CEO of Ticketmaster-Citysearch and a partner at McKinsey &amp; Company.&nbsp; Rob is a Director Emeritus of McKinsey &amp; Company, a Trustee of The Nature Conservancy in Australia and Asia, and a Director of the Paul Ramsay Foundation, Australia&rsquo;s largest philanthropic foundation. He is the former Dean of the Australian Graduate School of Management. He was a Fulbright Scholar at the Columbia University Graduate School of Business.
Rob and Charles' books can be found here: <a href="https://bulletproofproblemsolving.com/">https://bulletproofproblemsolving.com/</a>
You can also listen to <a href="https://link.chtbl.com/x8aOezMq">their previous interview on Inside the Strategy Room</a> or read the <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/want-better-strategies-become-a-bulletproof-problem-solver">edited transcript</a>&nbsp;on McKinsey.com.&nbsp;
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Corporate boards face increased complexity today, with heightened geopolitical risk key among the concerns they must consider as they guide the companies they serve. In this episode, three experts on boards and geopolitics discuss how boards can best adapt to this new normal. Dominic Barton is board chair for the metals and mining company Rio Tinto, and also for the impact investment firm Leapfrog investments. He's also a senior advisor and partner at the AI investment firm Radical Ventures. Previously, Dom served as Canada’s ambassador to China. And before that he was a McKinsey senior partner who served as our global managing partner for three terms. Frithjof Lund is a senior partner who leads our Board Services Practice as well as our Norway office. He helps boards of directors improve corporate governance. Ziad Haider is a partner and our global director of geopolitical risk. He is based in our Singapore office, and counsels CXOs and boards on how to build out their capabilities to better understand, monitor, and mitigate geopolitical risk.

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Corporate boards face increased complexity today, with heightened geopolitical risk key among the concerns they must consider as they guide the companies they serve.&nbsp;In this episode, three experts on boards and geopolitics discuss how boards can best adapt to this new normal.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.riotinto.com/en/about/board-of-directors/dominic-barton">Dominic Barton</a> is board chair for the metals and mining company Rio Tinto, and also for the impact investment firm Leapfrog investments. He's also a senior advisor and partner at the AI investment firm Radical Ventures. Previously, Dom served as Canada&rsquo;s ambassador to China. And before that he was a McKinsey senior partner who served as our global managing partner for three terms. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/frithjof-lund">Frithjof Lund </a>is a senior partner who leads our Board Services Practice as well as our Norway office. He helps boards of directors improve corporate governance. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/ziad-haider">Ziad Haider</a> is a partner and our global director of geopolitical risk. He is based in our Singapore office, and counsels CXOs and boards on how to build out their capabilities to better understand, monitor, and mitigate geopolitical risk. 
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Too often, business transformation is treated as a short-term exercise or financial goal. In this episode, three of our transformation experts share the core elements of a sustained transformation, in which mindsets shift, expectations change, and new heights are reached.

Stephan Görner is a senior partner and the global co-leader of our Transformation Practice. He was joined by senior partner Michael Bucy and associate partner Rachel McKlindon.

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Too often, business transformation is treated as a short-term exercise or financial goal. In this episode, three of our transformation experts share the core elements of a sustained transformation, in which mindsets shift, expectations change, and new heights are reached. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/rts/our-people" data-attrib-id="link-200dacb8-2a34-416d-9f14-b04e6e0a3bf5">Stephan G&ouml;rner</a> is a senior partner and the global co-leader of our&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights">Transformation Practice</a>. He was joined by senior partner <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/michael-bucy" data-attrib-id="link-a3bcd792-e6e5-49f9-94e3-b11ddc0b3210">Michael Bucy</a> and associate partner <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-mcklindon-3b03a653/" data-attrib-id="link-08818834-1ba7-4be4-9ca0-6f03847f697c">Rachel McKlindon</a>.
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