The volume. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Insall Garage Podcast. I'm Cayl Hamilton along with A. J. Wallace on rad again cam Heart. Today we got our very own Baltimore raven Tony Jefferson. Um, you're in Cali right now, right, San Diego, California, my guy, pretty mid city. Um, just whatever, just from whatever, I just know from you just said, my guy, guy. But I appreciate you coming on t J. So obviously we got some downtime right now. What you've been doing, Honestly, Bro, I just been training, working working out on a couple of places on the weekends, but for the most part, I've just been trying to get the body right, getting pressed for this training camp. Honestly, you know, being with the family. You know, life's good, Brofe's good. From San Diego, Yeah, Born and race, Like you said, get ready for camp was because obviously it's my first NFL camp. What's NFL training camp like compared to like college football in europinion or just like the Ravens training camp, or like regular our our training camp is like, uh, I feel like it's not like many other training camps we go. Ham basically like we're really good. After the weather doesn't make any better. It's really it's really a tough camp. But um, but at the end of the day, after being in it so long and then missing it last year, I'm kind of looking looking forward to it. Always found out like the harder the camp store and training camp. That clash of the teams are the team is like during the seasons because you know, everybody literally has to go up to that grind together. Just like any camp, you get tired of seeing the same people every day, be are on the same dudes every day. I think it brings us closer at the end of the day, So I'm looking forward to. Why do you think the Ravens do a little differently or go a little harder For the most part, I think the mindset just not with not with the players, but like with everyone in the building from the top down. I feel like the mindsets is different. Like we we train hard, we work hard, and we reap the benefits of it. And I think that's why that's the reason the organization is the way it is, UM primarily because you know, we work and it's it's not just the players, it's upstairs that their mental's kind of the same way that if you look in our weight room, then Kyle can tell you we got a bunch of our coaches, front office guys. They're all working out, coming at six am, do their workout. So it's kind of like a whole organizational thing. I feel like, and um, I feel like keeping that type of like mindset is gonna continue to help them be the organization they are for sure. I was you can't hear you, bro, Cage can carry it out, but he's not going to save your your thro bro, just take it off, Bren, y'all hear me? Now, Yeah, I don't know what that was. First of all, at least say, uh, how long is training camp for y'all? Set up for us at last and month in college, but I mean, how long does the NFL trainney camp last? Well, NFL training camp like, so when we first get there, everybody has some going to the hotel, We stay in the hotels. I believe after like two and a half weeks, the coach, let's the coach, that's the bets going back home. But now there's only three preseason games, so so I would say it's roughly around maybe six weeks we started July and then first game September eleven. So the cuts be September four. So July through September four really is gonna be the full duration of training camp under the rookies get to go home. Do you know, Kyler, you have no idea the rookies. They don't. They can't go back to their house until after the last preseason. So cool. Yeah, that's news to me. So yeah, the Bringer ether that core bro Wifish. Oh yeah, for sure. My roommates already know. I got the hundred ft ether net that ran through the whole house. Had to tape it on the walls so I could play my game. So, like you said, from San Diego, went to o U with Oklahoma. Talk about that experience you left in three to share, like how the experience it was. I know you'all played another Dame I think no Dame Beach, All right, Yeah it was. It was a smooth little night game. You know you had you had draw quarterback number five. I forgethers amble ever since every ghost, every yeah, every every Ghoston. Yeah, he tried to run a QB draw smack that boy later off the ground. He laying on the ground like two minutes he came back in the game. Yeah, yeah, I went to I went to Oklahoma. Bro, I'm from San Diego, so that was kind of like a culture shock to me once I got there. Yeah, why why did you decided to go to Owe? You well, Bro, it was so hard for me to like pick a school and like stick with it. Like I committed to like six different schools in high school. But they kept minding me, Bro, every life sounded good. I was like, all right, I'm gonna committ well. First off, like after my freshman year, my very first offer was from Stafford. It was from Harbor's brother. So I committed right on the spotlight. Yeah I'm coming here. So then, like I think it was the following year that they asked me, like retake my essay tars some so I was like, yeah, bus out like that happened everything like that. After that, ended up committed to uh U c l A. You know, I was up the street, my boy. Yeah, I went there, So I was going to u c l A all the time. From there, I committed to USC. So this is actually a funny story. When I was at I was committed to u c l A at the time, and then I took an unofficial visit to USC while they were playing U C. L A. And from straight minutes, I'm on the side. I'm on the sideline of USC, like there are warm ups and all the players like, I said, I haven't going up to you said like like almost every other weekend like hang with the players and stuff. And they saw me on the sideline, they like, oh, like cursed. They're cussing me out, like talking about all this mess. So then I'm on the USC side and they're like, man, damn man. I'm like, yeah, so I committed to you, committed to sc man, I'm like, yeah, he's my brother's last was Irvan Meyer at Florida. He almost he almost got me bro. He was telling me that I was gonna be the starting running back because I played running back at this time. I like verbally committed there, and then he ended up getting sick or whatever happened with him at Florida, something happened. I ended up committing in Oklahoma just because I needed to go somewhere where the coaching was like stable, because when I was at the Army on American Game, Pete Carey got in trouble with this thing m hmm. I think that's a Reggie Bush thing. So I just committed to Oklahoma. BA. I was like whatever, Like I took a visit to Oklahoma and I had like the worst visit like I could possibly ever have. Like my my host just left me at a party by myself. I was like, and then and then then he took the money. You know they give you a little recruit money. Yeah, like my man like my man's bag. That didn't give me no food or nothing. So I was like, yeah, I'm having back here. But Bro, so you was thinking about going to what six schools and one year? Bro, it was like picking it was like picking a prom dress, like well not for me, but you know the reference. I didn't know you played running back too, all right, so you in the B gap US safety you are running back? Who wins me against me? You against you? You against you get one yard line. It's a rap stop that stop that stop that stop stop bro Kyle stop Bro. You should my practice ships like randomly like doing routes like bro stop like he played played played DV. Yeah, the sever you spoke about like how hard Okaoma was coming in at what point in time to like click for you because you left after three So was it your freshman year or your sophomore year? My freshman year, like the football part wasn't hard. It was like the workouts, Like I guess I just wasn't like that in tune with like how hard workouts would be. But like when when the past come on, like in the spring and like in the spring game and stuff like, I was bawling up. So I ended up starting like my freshman year, I got a freshman All American. It wasn't It wasn't like the the football part. It was just like the other going to class and going like waking up at five am, being on the track, then going to class. You would have hated another dame. Yeah, it was about to stay another day. Brian Pulling recruited me heavy out another day. Yeah, you want you want to be there bad, Just like Stafford. They brought up the S A. T. S. Brough. I'm telling you, like once they brought that up, but I was not doing that. I was not redoing my sat S. So obviously you had a great career at OE you and decided to leave early going to the draft, went undrafted. I know that wasn't what you thought. Was gonna happen going into it. Just talk about like your whole mental throughout that process, like even making a decision to come out, like how it was received, all that stuff. I had a really pretty solid career. Um my first years, I didn't play safety at all. I played uh nickel and like that out that backg roll, So I didn't I didn't move to safety till my last year. I came out early because they you know, they did a little meeting and they tell you what you're great, like great they give you. I had a second round grade, second and third round grade, and at that point, bro, I felt like I had did what I was supposed to do, like on the football shield for the next level. I took my chance and I went to the I went to the draft. Stoops wasn't too like happy about the decision that I had made, but I already had made up my mind. I saw what I was gonna do. I went in the eighth round. I was eighth round, first pick. And show me when I was training for the draft, I'm not gonna lie like I thought. I had it in the bag. I think if I could go back, I wouldn't have trained in Hollywood in l A. You wouldn't have or you would have. I wouldn't have explain that, like would you. I was training in Hollywood, Bro, like man's pretty stuff, and I had I had just turned to me one like that, So Bro, I was I was outside, bro, first time in l A, having a little cash my pocket. Like I don't think you know, I don't think I was as focused on us as I should have been. Two days before my combine, I like strained Miami. You know me, I'm competitive. I'm like if I'm gonna just go, I'm gonna I'm gonna compete anyway. I go running forty run, run slow as hell. But Bro, can y'all answer this? Maybe y'all canswer because that's something got this answer? So, like my first unfisal round with four six to second unofficial rund was four six four? How the hell do they come up with the official time at four point seven five? B? Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, it was weird this year too, because like the officials would go up and then officials would go down, like because it's hand started, like it's a right there hand starting it. So like what's the official time going from? There's no way that like you could, like even if they were talking about my unofficials hand time, there's no way it's what like the hand time is a bad way off from that. I don't know. I still understand how that happened. But I had to run a four seving five and then my first drills I did with the dB, I pop my hamstring. I didn't really have no numbers besides my four point seven five and my tape. So teams felt like I didn't fit the prototypical size and safety and they probably they felt like all slow. So I went on drafted, signed with a Z, and I just went on from there. I was playing e zy with Matthew. Was that pretty cool? What was he like as a teammate. He's probably one of the better leaders I've been around. Um, he can motivate you. I was kind of like throwing into the fire as a as a rookie, because especially as undrafted rookie, like when you're undrafted, like they're not accounting for you to like make the team, so like you're there to want to be a camp body because they need bodies so that their starters and the guys that they know they were going to make the team can have some rest and to you're just a cheaper option for them, like towards the town end of the roster. And I still kind of had a hamstring like issue, like the first couple of weeks. So we had our rookie minicamp. I think I did okay, nothing like flashy, and then um, once a training camp came around. I don't know what was going on, but like I was on the scout team and I'll go against like our ones against Carson Palmer, and like Larks, I was just catching like everything, like from the center field. I was just picking everything off. So they started giving me more reps and it was unforced because one of the auto guys I got injured. And so this was our third, uh third preseason game and I got two picks. I got the game with an interception. That game really like solidified my spot on on the roster. During those years, we were called like no flies on I think or some savage or some some man, but we were we were fired. I was able to like watch them. What's big for me, it's like people's mindsets, like when they're playing, Like where's their mind at? Like how do they react to things? Not just football wise, but like what's their attitude? I got to build off of their energy. Um, they taught me a lot just from the standpoint of like covering, because when I got into the league, I wasn't really that big of a cover guy. But like they took the time out of their day after practice to help me with techniques and stuff. So you always called like no flies on. But y'allways in the same and we kind of talked about about this a little bit, like y'all are in the same division as the Seahawks, right, was that when they were like coming up like Legion of Boom and all that stuff at the same time. Yeah, when I came in there, the Leason of Boom was like they were in their prime, Like they were where they're supposed to be at Earl Cam. Sure they were on point, like every time like we played them, and um, you know, we we had our battles. I just remember, like our thing was like we're never really too worried about them. We were more worried about ourselves because we're pretty fly to, you know what I mean. So it wasn't really tripping off what they had going on. Would you say the biggest difference, Um, coming in as an undrafted free agent to being a VET on Ravens. Now, what do you what do you think the biggest difference is mindset wise, how you approach coming into a season, the most part being undrafted, like you really have to like earn your reps as a VET. Especially with me being on the Rams. I've been there for a while. I feel like they know what they're gonna get out of me. It's just a matter of like showing like my movements and that type of stuff. So like like everything is about like keeping your body fresh, keeping me like everything like intact diet, because like when you're when you're a rookie and you're young, like you can get away with that stuff. Like I used to when I was an aazy. When I was a rookie, I used to I was wilding because I wasn't starting. I was. I was out in scott I was on a s U S campus, Like I went there, bro, Like I was on mill app Like, Bro, They're like, bro, don't you play for the Cardinals. I'm like, yeah, I'm only twenty one though, so it's good. Bro. I could go out and I can do all that, and I could wake up at six seven in the morning and go run and sprint and do all that. Like now I can't do that. I know, I need my paper rest. I know, I gotta like diet correctly or I'm gonna get fat like stuff like that. Me being on the rabies, I kind of get a glimpse of what it's like and how different it can be around the league, just in terms of how teams are operating, like how day to the schedule is, and like you obviously know that, like you've been with San fran being with Daisy, being Baltimore. What would you say is like one thing that's consistent with all three teams and then the one thing that is consistently different with everything go on. I can't really speak too much about San France because like I was only there for like a few months. But what I do know is like Shanahan great coach, um one of the smartest like offensive like gurus that I got to like go against. I just remember being a training camp like and I'm trying to I'm going home. I'm trying to figure out this dude's offense, like just by tendencies and stuff, and like he just does somebody like crazy like same tendency, but total different play So I really respected him. Um, you know the aspect of like being a play caller. When I was in San France, I got like that Cali feel like things were just like a little laid back practice. It was more about it was more mental practices and physical practices. Um, it was more about keeping guys fresh. And like in Baltimore, it's it was more like we're gonna put our hardcaps on and gonna go to work. It's more family oriented. In Baltimore. You're more kind of free to be who you are, like Harbor says, you're allowed to just like let your your personality shine, you know what I mean. So it's not like that everywhere. And as I was, I felt like I was walking on eggshells every day. And a lot of that came with the uncertainty of like me being on the roster just because I was undrafted. But it wasn't very like family oriented, like you not just like bringing your kids in when when you want. There's no like day cares. It wasn't like how it is in Baltimore, Like it was more like business business structure. I felt like I was walking on egg shows every year. I was in that Oh god, I never felt safe. I never felt like they truly respected what I had done on the football field while I was there, even even up until my last year, because what they what they had for me when I was because at that time I was the number I was like the number one or two safety the league at that time. When I came out my pay day, which was after my twenty sixteen years, I still felt like they didn't like appreciate my talents. When I was there, it was just so much uncertainty. I'm like where I was gonna be at? How do you deal with that? Like, because obviously you gotta go home every day and come back to facility like going into free agency. Also, did you know, like all I need to go somewhere where I know I'm wanted, I know I'm needed, like appreciated. Ione Lie, it was tough in the league, Like everything is like a weekly basis thing. So you can have a great game week two, and then if week three your average, and then week four you play bad, Week five your average, week six you play bad weekcept me play like if you're constantly like just not like putting out like consistent good tape, it's gonna mess with you mentally, and like for my first couple of years and a zy, like my tape was just like average and good, like I had splash space here and there, but like I never really had the opportunity because I wasn't a full starter. So it's like I wasn't truly getting my opportunity until my last year. So like coming home week to week and I'm like, dang, I don't even know if they want me here, Like they just signed another safety They're probably bringing them in to replace me. Like I've had those conversations so many times, so that just added a lot of stress. But I have my son and then I just had to I just have a great support system, I feel like from my family when things like we're seeming dark, like in certain situations, they were always there. So not to get mushy, but family, like the family did kind of like keep me up uphill, like during like certain situations, going to a place that you knew because like you said, Baltimore's family oriented and like you signed a contract with them. That's some of that playing to it. Like coming from easy where like it felt a little like kind of cold at times somewhere that's more warmer. Yeah, so like the consensus around the league. I think everybody knows this. When once you like if you're gonna like obviously, you get treated differently than like undrafted or a guy who's gonna pay like bat minimum. My agent had told me, like, you're gonna get a lot of money. So we had a bunch of teams like hand us up and we're trying to figure it out. But what stood out to me was obviously my boy Eric went don't have hit me up. You know, I ran some a couple of times. I know a lot about him because he played for the Sender with Charges, so he's kind of like a legend out here. I just had great conversations with him, and like throughout the whole free agency process, like I feel like the Ravens was like kind of the only team that I just did everything like correctly, and like that kind of mattered to me. I just felt like they really wanted me, and it kind of made the decision kind of easy just because I played defense and you just think about the history of the Ravens defense and like being a part of that, we kind of made that. It's just an easy for me. I only hear the inside scoop and uh, pretend Coles now here, you know, what's the inside scoop and Coles of teammate is we'd is we know. Yeah, he's a little goopball. You know, he'd be trying to like hide it. But I'll see right I see, I see right through. He's a troll like me, bro, we get it. But he's cool. He's cool. I mean on the field, you know, the front of the time we've doing on the field together, Like it's been straight a couple of times we want him to shut up because you called the wrong call. A couple of times form like yo, like I got I got this, They're gonna be they're gonna be saying lee and it's robbed my guy. Like it's definitely been like two times when there was no post and that was that was definitely what I mean, we bro, But yeah, that's straight. I mean for a rookie, and our defense is not that easy. And I feel like Cows done a good job picking it up. Um, you know he's there was like one day I don't know if like him and his girlfriend like arguing or whatever, but he like came in he was like acting all sad, like like, bro, you're you okay? What the fuck? I called him out on it and it hasn't happened since, so we're good. I mean, but him like as a teammate, like it's like off the field and stuff, like he's solid, but he's like, wait, disrespectful. I asked him to like doing me a favor. I can you go kick me up? I said, can you go kick me up something? Bro? He's like, oh, yeah sure. I was like, yeah, I'll reimburse you, like when you get it. Before he left, I was like, oh yeah, bro, can you please give me a case or that. I'm like, He's like, yeah, for sure, Bro, I got you. So he like brings it in the next day. I'm like, bro, where's the case at bro? And he's like, oh, I forgot. You couldn't remember what I was like, it was a lot going on, Like I was just like that playbook at the time, like it was just too much going on my head. That's me. That's what I mean. I won't forget next time, though. It's all good as a vet for like a younger dB coming in be usually assumed like the big brother roll or do you just let him figure out it on his own, and then help him out once he makes doing the stakes that you have made or know that he's gonna make. I like to let the rookies like settling themselves first get used to it, and then when you said the big brother roll, like I view everybody on my team as like a brother, you know, like whether you're older or younger, Like I treat everybody the same. Just like I don't be trying to like bully or like you know, be negative. I'm not. I'm not a negative person. So like everybody that's in the locker room was like free game, you're getting roasted or like we're just gonna have some fun or whatever. When I see something, obviously from rookie, I'm gonna say something, whether you know, whether it's on the shild off the field. But other than now, once we're on the team together, like I just dread everybody, it was like family. T J. Outside of the garage is like this little segment that we had where people sending questions like fun stuff or whatever. Did you just check yourself out? Yeah? Well I was making sure like uh so, like people sending questions or whatever, it's like fun stuff and you just give your opinion or your answer to it. This week's questions comes from John Paul Lewis. It says you get to pick any song to become America's new national anthem. What song are you picking? Oh, that's a good one. I'm gonna have to go with uh in a minute, my little baby bro as a national anthem? Are you asking me? Or like, do you want to say I respected? Respected? Yam? Have to go with the Empire state of Mind? By jeez, expect that. That's a good choice. I was gonna say sweater weather um to hear it all the time. All Right, you're not finished a say like everybody's charts, but mind bro, Well you guys are just like hello, random, like Cam's like New York related, like Empire state of Mind, like Connor is a classic, like in a minute, came out to like you know what I'm saying, Like, come a little hard. You guessed it you. I'm gonna go with Daddy's Birthday young, Okay, expect everybody, So I'm gonna go party in the USA Miley cyrus by the Bank. Why are you laughing? Right? You want that? You would want that to be the national anthem? Bro? I never heard that song and been like, dang, I don't really want to hear this surrep bro rapid questions. I'm just gonna rally off like a twenty five or so questions you anthon as stats, you can okay, whatever first thing comes to mind, all right? Every year Tory Proba, Country or city City, pancakes or waffles, pancakes, my guy two picks or game saving interception games. It's gotta be a game, bro, Midwest or West Coast. Al Right, we already know that home we're away games as a player or coach as a player? Uh, home games as a coach away game? Cake or ice cream? Ice cream? Favorite pizza topping Pepperoni? Would you rather have Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss on your team? Calvin Johnson beat your lake beach? Would you rather Coverico or TiO for a whole game too? Favorite Halloween costume as a kid. My parents don't let me so dress up or celebrate ho Bro, but stop stopping for pops getting mad? All right? I was just leave it at that big ear Tupac tupac. Last thing you cook? I don't cook, all right, Rather have a lizard a snake all mess with snakes like that lizard. Favorite holiday, favorite holidays, Christmas? FaceTime you text text please, And that's I appreciate that because I FaceTime to you the other day. Uh, just text you next time. My faults her breakfast or dinner breakfast favorite spot on o US campus, pickle pizza, chicken or steak steak. Favorite restaurant in Baltimore Jimmy seafood. What don't you just throw up? Yo? Received for I'm trying to get coming on this lane. Uh last four Chipotle or Chick fil A, Instagram or Twitter Twitter. Most underrated DV in the league. Most underrated d Jimmy Ward. I did not put this on here, Kyle or Marlon Humphrey. I don't know what the criteria is, but I'm just you're Rockie. Bro. That all right. I think you did well on that. I think you did well. Uh yeah, So that's it. We're gonna wrap it up there. T J P. You coming on. I'll see you pretty soon. So you gotta report bro Monday, this upcoming Monday. Oh that's trick. No, I'm getting more working. I'm getting that working early. You feel mesh stop, Bro, appreciate you coming on, Bro, yeh see you appreciate you h

The volume. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Insall Garage Podcast. I'm Cayl Hamilton along with A. J. Wallace on rad again cam Heart. Today we got our very own Baltimore raven Tony Jefferson. Um, you're in Cali right now, right, San Diego, California, my guy, pretty mid city. Um, just whatever, just from whatever, I just know from you just said, my guy, guy. But I appreciate you coming on t J. So obviously we got some downtime right now. What you've been doing, Honestly, Bro, I just been training, working working out on a couple of places on the weekends, but for the most part, I've just been trying to get the body right, getting pressed for this training camp. Honestly, you know, being with the family. You know, life's good, Brofe's good. From San Diego, Yeah, Born and race, Like you said, get ready for camp was because obviously it's my first NFL camp. What's NFL training camp like compared to like college football in europinion or just like the Ravens training camp, or like regular our our training camp is like, uh, I feel like it's not like many other training camps we go. Ham basically like we're really good. After the weather doesn't make any better. It's really it's really a tough camp. But um, but at the end of the day, after being in it so long and then missing it last year, I'm kind of looking looking forward to it. Always found out like the harder the camp store and training camp. That clash of the teams are the team is like during the seasons because you know, everybody literally has to go up to that grind together. Just like any camp, you get tired of seeing the same people every day, be are on the same dudes every day. I think it brings us closer at the end of the day, So I'm looking forward to. Why do you think the Ravens do a little differently or go a little harder For the most part, I think the mindset just not with not with the players, but like with everyone in the building from the top down. I feel like the mindsets is different. Like we we train hard, we work hard, and we reap the benefits of it. And I think that's why that's the reason the organization is the way it is, UM primarily because you know, we work and it's it's not just the players, it's upstairs that their mental's kind of the same way that if you look in our weight room, then Kyle can tell you we got a bunch of our coaches, front office guys. They're all working out, coming at six am, do their workout. So it's kind of like a whole organizational thing. I feel like, and um, I feel like keeping that type of like mindset is gonna continue to help them be the organization they are for sure. I was you can't hear you, bro, Cage can carry it out, but he's not going to save your your thro bro, just take it off, Bren, y'all hear me? Now, Yeah, I don't know what that was. First of all, at least say, uh, how long is training camp for y'all? Set up for us at last and month in college, but I mean, how long does the NFL trainney camp last? Well, NFL training camp like, so when we first get there, everybody has some going to the hotel, We stay in the hotels. I believe after like two and a half weeks, the coach, let's the coach, that's the bets going back home. But now there's only three preseason games, so so I would say it's roughly around maybe six weeks we started July and then first game September eleven. So the cuts be September four. So July through September four really is gonna be the full duration of training camp under the rookies get to go home. Do you know, Kyler, you have no idea the rookies. They don't. They can't go back to their house until after the last preseason. So cool. Yeah, that's news to me. So yeah, the Bringer ether that core bro Wifish. Oh yeah, for sure. My roommates already know. I got the hundred ft ether net that ran through the whole house. Had to tape it on the walls so I could play my game. So, like you said, from San Diego, went to o U with Oklahoma. Talk about that experience you left in three to share, like how the experience it was. I know you'all played another Dame I think no Dame Beach, All right, Yeah it was. It was a smooth little night game. You know you had you had draw quarterback number five. I forgethers amble ever since every ghost, every yeah, every every Ghoston. Yeah, he tried to run a QB draw smack that boy later off the ground. He laying on the ground like two minutes he came back in the game. Yeah, yeah, I went to I went to Oklahoma. Bro, I'm from San Diego, so that was kind of like a culture shock to me once I got there. Yeah, why why did you decided to go to Owe? You well, Bro, it was so hard for me to like pick a school and like stick with it. Like I committed to like six different schools in high school. But they kept minding me, Bro, every life sounded good. I was like, all right, I'm gonna committ well. First off, like after my freshman year, my very first offer was from Stafford. It was from Harbor's brother. So I committed right on the spotlight. Yeah I'm coming here. So then, like I think it was the following year that they asked me, like retake my essay tars some so I was like, yeah, bus out like that happened everything like that. After that, ended up committed to uh U c l A. You know, I was up the street, my boy. Yeah, I went there, So I was going to u c l A all the time. From there, I committed to USC. So this is actually a funny story. When I was at I was committed to u c l A at the time, and then I took an unofficial visit to USC while they were playing U C. L A. And from straight minutes, I'm on the side. I'm on the sideline of USC, like there are warm ups and all the players like, I said, I haven't going up to you said like like almost every other weekend like hang with the players and stuff. And they saw me on the sideline, they like, oh, like cursed. They're cussing me out, like talking about all this mess. So then I'm on the USC side and they're like, man, damn man. I'm like, yeah, so I committed to you, committed to sc man, I'm like, yeah, he's my brother's last was Irvan Meyer at Florida. He almost he almost got me bro. He was telling me that I was gonna be the starting running back because I played running back at this time. I like verbally committed there, and then he ended up getting sick or whatever happened with him at Florida, something happened. I ended up committing in Oklahoma just because I needed to go somewhere where the coaching was like stable, because when I was at the Army on American Game, Pete Carey got in trouble with this thing m hmm. I think that's a Reggie Bush thing. So I just committed to Oklahoma. BA. I was like whatever, Like I took a visit to Oklahoma and I had like the worst visit like I could possibly ever have. Like my my host just left me at a party by myself. I was like, and then and then then he took the money. You know they give you a little recruit money. Yeah, like my man like my man's bag. That didn't give me no food or nothing. So I was like, yeah, I'm having back here. But Bro, so you was thinking about going to what six schools and one year? Bro, it was like picking it was like picking a prom dress, like well not for me, but you know the reference. I didn't know you played running back too, all right, so you in the B gap US safety you are running back? Who wins me against me? You against you? You against you get one yard line. It's a rap stop that stop that stop that stop stop bro Kyle stop Bro. You should my practice ships like randomly like doing routes like bro stop like he played played played DV. Yeah, the sever you spoke about like how hard Okaoma was coming in at what point in time to like click for you because you left after three So was it your freshman year or your sophomore year? My freshman year, like the football part wasn't hard. It was like the workouts, Like I guess I just wasn't like that in tune with like how hard workouts would be. But like when when the past come on, like in the spring and like in the spring game and stuff like, I was bawling up. So I ended up starting like my freshman year, I got a freshman All American. It wasn't It wasn't like the the football part. It was just like the other going to class and going like waking up at five am, being on the track, then going to class. You would have hated another dame. Yeah, it was about to stay another day. Brian Pulling recruited me heavy out another day. Yeah, you want you want to be there bad, Just like Stafford. They brought up the S A. T. S. Brough. I'm telling you, like once they brought that up, but I was not doing that. I was not redoing my sat S. So obviously you had a great career at OE you and decided to leave early going to the draft, went undrafted. I know that wasn't what you thought. Was gonna happen going into it. Just talk about like your whole mental throughout that process, like even making a decision to come out, like how it was received, all that stuff. I had a really pretty solid career. Um my first years, I didn't play safety at all. I played uh nickel and like that out that backg roll, So I didn't I didn't move to safety till my last year. I came out early because they you know, they did a little meeting and they tell you what you're great, like great they give you. I had a second round grade, second and third round grade, and at that point, bro, I felt like I had did what I was supposed to do, like on the football shield for the next level. I took my chance and I went to the I went to the draft. Stoops wasn't too like happy about the decision that I had made, but I already had made up my mind. I saw what I was gonna do. I went in the eighth round. I was eighth round, first pick. And show me when I was training for the draft, I'm not gonna lie like I thought. I had it in the bag. I think if I could go back, I wouldn't have trained in Hollywood in l A. You wouldn't have or you would have. I wouldn't have explain that, like would you. I was training in Hollywood, Bro, like man's pretty stuff, and I had I had just turned to me one like that, So Bro, I was I was outside, bro, first time in l A, having a little cash my pocket. Like I don't think you know, I don't think I was as focused on us as I should have been. Two days before my combine, I like strained Miami. You know me, I'm competitive. I'm like if I'm gonna just go, I'm gonna I'm gonna compete anyway. I go running forty run, run slow as hell. But Bro, can y'all answer this? Maybe y'all canswer because that's something got this answer? So, like my first unfisal round with four six to second unofficial rund was four six four? How the hell do they come up with the official time at four point seven five? B? Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, it was weird this year too, because like the officials would go up and then officials would go down, like because it's hand started, like it's a right there hand starting it. So like what's the official time going from? There's no way that like you could, like even if they were talking about my unofficials hand time, there's no way it's what like the hand time is a bad way off from that. I don't know. I still understand how that happened. But I had to run a four seving five and then my first drills I did with the dB, I pop my hamstring. I didn't really have no numbers besides my four point seven five and my tape. So teams felt like I didn't fit the prototypical size and safety and they probably they felt like all slow. So I went on drafted, signed with a Z, and I just went on from there. I was playing e zy with Matthew. Was that pretty cool? What was he like as a teammate. He's probably one of the better leaders I've been around. Um, he can motivate you. I was kind of like throwing into the fire as a as a rookie, because especially as undrafted rookie, like when you're undrafted, like they're not accounting for you to like make the team, so like you're there to want to be a camp body because they need bodies so that their starters and the guys that they know they were going to make the team can have some rest and to you're just a cheaper option for them, like towards the town end of the roster. And I still kind of had a hamstring like issue, like the first couple of weeks. So we had our rookie minicamp. I think I did okay, nothing like flashy, and then um, once a training camp came around. I don't know what was going on, but like I was on the scout team and I'll go against like our ones against Carson Palmer, and like Larks, I was just catching like everything, like from the center field. I was just picking everything off. So they started giving me more reps and it was unforced because one of the auto guys I got injured. And so this was our third, uh third preseason game and I got two picks. I got the game with an interception. That game really like solidified my spot on on the roster. During those years, we were called like no flies on I think or some savage or some some man, but we were we were fired. I was able to like watch them. What's big for me, it's like people's mindsets, like when they're playing, Like where's their mind at? Like how do they react to things? Not just football wise, but like what's their attitude? I got to build off of their energy. Um, they taught me a lot just from the standpoint of like covering, because when I got into the league, I wasn't really that big of a cover guy. But like they took the time out of their day after practice to help me with techniques and stuff. So you always called like no flies on. But y'allways in the same and we kind of talked about about this a little bit, like y'all are in the same division as the Seahawks, right, was that when they were like coming up like Legion of Boom and all that stuff at the same time. Yeah, when I came in there, the Leason of Boom was like they were in their prime, Like they were where they're supposed to be at Earl Cam. Sure they were on point, like every time like we played them, and um, you know, we we had our battles. I just remember, like our thing was like we're never really too worried about them. We were more worried about ourselves because we're pretty fly to, you know what I mean. So it wasn't really tripping off what they had going on. Would you say the biggest difference, Um, coming in as an undrafted free agent to being a VET on Ravens. Now, what do you what do you think the biggest difference is mindset wise, how you approach coming into a season, the most part being undrafted, like you really have to like earn your reps as a VET. Especially with me being on the Rams. I've been there for a while. I feel like they know what they're gonna get out of me. It's just a matter of like showing like my movements and that type of stuff. So like like everything is about like keeping your body fresh, keeping me like everything like intact diet, because like when you're when you're a rookie and you're young, like you can get away with that stuff. Like I used to when I was an aazy. When I was a rookie, I used to I was wilding because I wasn't starting. I was. I was out in scott I was on a s U S campus, Like I went there, bro, Like I was on mill app Like, Bro, They're like, bro, don't you play for the Cardinals. I'm like, yeah, I'm only twenty one though, so it's good. Bro. I could go out and I can do all that, and I could wake up at six seven in the morning and go run and sprint and do all that. Like now I can't do that. I know, I need my paper rest. I know, I gotta like diet correctly or I'm gonna get fat like stuff like that. Me being on the rabies, I kind of get a glimpse of what it's like and how different it can be around the league, just in terms of how teams are operating, like how day to the schedule is, and like you obviously know that, like you've been with San fran being with Daisy, being Baltimore. What would you say is like one thing that's consistent with all three teams and then the one thing that is consistently different with everything go on. I can't really speak too much about San France because like I was only there for like a few months. But what I do know is like Shanahan great coach, um one of the smartest like offensive like gurus that I got to like go against. I just remember being a training camp like and I'm trying to I'm going home. I'm trying to figure out this dude's offense, like just by tendencies and stuff, and like he just does somebody like crazy like same tendency, but total different play So I really respected him. Um, you know the aspect of like being a play caller. When I was in San France, I got like that Cali feel like things were just like a little laid back practice. It was more about it was more mental practices and physical practices. Um, it was more about keeping guys fresh. And like in Baltimore, it's it was more like we're gonna put our hardcaps on and gonna go to work. It's more family oriented. In Baltimore. You're more kind of free to be who you are, like Harbor says, you're allowed to just like let your your personality shine, you know what I mean. So it's not like that everywhere. And as I was, I felt like I was walking on eggshells every day. And a lot of that came with the uncertainty of like me being on the roster just because I was undrafted. But it wasn't very like family oriented, like you not just like bringing your kids in when when you want. There's no like day cares. It wasn't like how it is in Baltimore, Like it was more like business business structure. I felt like I was walking on egg shows every year. I was in that Oh god, I never felt safe. I never felt like they truly respected what I had done on the football field while I was there, even even up until my last year, because what they what they had for me when I was because at that time I was the number I was like the number one or two safety the league at that time. When I came out my pay day, which was after my twenty sixteen years, I still felt like they didn't like appreciate my talents. When I was there, it was just so much uncertainty. I'm like where I was gonna be at? How do you deal with that? Like, because obviously you gotta go home every day and come back to facility like going into free agency. Also, did you know, like all I need to go somewhere where I know I'm wanted, I know I'm needed, like appreciated. Ione Lie, it was tough in the league, Like everything is like a weekly basis thing. So you can have a great game week two, and then if week three your average, and then week four you play bad, Week five your average, week six you play bad weekcept me play like if you're constantly like just not like putting out like consistent good tape, it's gonna mess with you mentally, and like for my first couple of years and a zy, like my tape was just like average and good, like I had splash space here and there, but like I never really had the opportunity because I wasn't a full starter. So it's like I wasn't truly getting my opportunity until my last year. So like coming home week to week and I'm like, dang, I don't even know if they want me here, Like they just signed another safety They're probably bringing them in to replace me. Like I've had those conversations so many times, so that just added a lot of stress. But I have my son and then I just had to I just have a great support system, I feel like from my family when things like we're seeming dark, like in certain situations, they were always there. So not to get mushy, but family, like the family did kind of like keep me up uphill, like during like certain situations, going to a place that you knew because like you said, Baltimore's family oriented and like you signed a contract with them. That's some of that playing to it. Like coming from easy where like it felt a little like kind of cold at times somewhere that's more warmer. Yeah, so like the consensus around the league. I think everybody knows this. When once you like if you're gonna like obviously, you get treated differently than like undrafted or a guy who's gonna pay like bat minimum. My agent had told me, like, you're gonna get a lot of money. So we had a bunch of teams like hand us up and we're trying to figure it out. But what stood out to me was obviously my boy Eric went don't have hit me up. You know, I ran some a couple of times. I know a lot about him because he played for the Sender with Charges, so he's kind of like a legend out here. I just had great conversations with him, and like throughout the whole free agency process, like I feel like the Ravens was like kind of the only team that I just did everything like correctly, and like that kind of mattered to me. I just felt like they really wanted me, and it kind of made the decision kind of easy just because I played defense and you just think about the history of the Ravens defense and like being a part of that, we kind of made that. It's just an easy for me. I only hear the inside scoop and uh, pretend Coles now here, you know, what's the inside scoop and Coles of teammate is we'd is we know. Yeah, he's a little goopball. You know, he'd be trying to like hide it. But I'll see right I see, I see right through. He's a troll like me, bro, we get it. But he's cool. He's cool. I mean on the field, you know, the front of the time we've doing on the field together, Like it's been straight a couple of times we want him to shut up because you called the wrong call. A couple of times form like yo, like I got I got this, They're gonna be they're gonna be saying lee and it's robbed my guy. Like it's definitely been like two times when there was no post and that was that was definitely what I mean, we bro, But yeah, that's straight. I mean for a rookie, and our defense is not that easy. And I feel like Cows done a good job picking it up. Um, you know he's there was like one day I don't know if like him and his girlfriend like arguing or whatever, but he like came in he was like acting all sad, like like, bro, you're you okay? What the fuck? I called him out on it and it hasn't happened since, so we're good. I mean, but him like as a teammate, like it's like off the field and stuff, like he's solid, but he's like, wait, disrespectful. I asked him to like doing me a favor. I can you go kick me up? I said, can you go kick me up something? Bro? He's like, oh, yeah sure. I was like, yeah, I'll reimburse you, like when you get it. Before he left, I was like, oh yeah, bro, can you please give me a case or that. I'm like, He's like, yeah, for sure, Bro, I got you. So he like brings it in the next day. I'm like, bro, where's the case at bro? And he's like, oh, I forgot. You couldn't remember what I was like, it was a lot going on, Like I was just like that playbook at the time, like it was just too much going on my head. That's me. That's what I mean. I won't forget next time, though. It's all good as a vet for like a younger dB coming in be usually assumed like the big brother roll or do you just let him figure out it on his own, and then help him out once he makes doing the stakes that you have made or know that he's gonna make. I like to let the rookies like settling themselves first get used to it, and then when you said the big brother roll, like I view everybody on my team as like a brother, you know, like whether you're older or younger, Like I treat everybody the same. Just like I don't be trying to like bully or like you know, be negative. I'm not. I'm not a negative person. So like everybody that's in the locker room was like free game, you're getting roasted or like we're just gonna have some fun or whatever. When I see something, obviously from rookie, I'm gonna say something, whether you know, whether it's on the shild off the field. But other than now, once we're on the team together, like I just dread everybody, it was like family. T J. Outside of the garage is like this little segment that we had where people sending questions like fun stuff or whatever. Did you just check yourself out? Yeah? Well I was making sure like uh so, like people sending questions or whatever, it's like fun stuff and you just give your opinion or your answer to it. This week's questions comes from John Paul Lewis. It says you get to pick any song to become America's new national anthem. What song are you picking? Oh, that's a good one. I'm gonna have to go with uh in a minute, my little baby bro as a national anthem? Are you asking me? Or like, do you want to say I respected? Respected? Yam? Have to go with the Empire state of Mind? By jeez, expect that. That's a good choice. I was gonna say sweater weather um to hear it all the time. All Right, you're not finished a say like everybody's charts, but mind bro, Well you guys are just like hello, random, like Cam's like New York related, like Empire state of Mind, like Connor is a classic, like in a minute, came out to like you know what I'm saying, Like, come a little hard. You guessed it you. I'm gonna go with Daddy's Birthday young, Okay, expect everybody, So I'm gonna go party in the USA Miley cyrus by the Bank. Why are you laughing? Right? You want that? You would want that to be the national anthem? Bro? I never heard that song and been like, dang, I don't really want to hear this surrep bro rapid questions. I'm just gonna rally off like a twenty five or so questions you anthon as stats, you can okay, whatever first thing comes to mind, all right? Every year Tory Proba, Country or city City, pancakes or waffles, pancakes, my guy two picks or game saving interception games. It's gotta be a game, bro, Midwest or West Coast. Al Right, we already know that home we're away games as a player or coach as a player? Uh, home games as a coach away game? Cake or ice cream? Ice cream? Favorite pizza topping Pepperoni? Would you rather have Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss on your team? Calvin Johnson beat your lake beach? Would you rather Coverico or TiO for a whole game too? Favorite Halloween costume as a kid. My parents don't let me so dress up or celebrate ho Bro, but stop stopping for pops getting mad? All right? I was just leave it at that big ear Tupac tupac. Last thing you cook? I don't cook, all right, Rather have a lizard a snake all mess with snakes like that lizard. Favorite holiday, favorite holidays, Christmas? FaceTime you text text please, And that's I appreciate that because I FaceTime to you the other day. Uh, just text you next time. My faults her breakfast or dinner breakfast favorite spot on o US campus, pickle pizza, chicken or steak steak. Favorite restaurant in Baltimore Jimmy seafood. What don't you just throw up? Yo? Received for I'm trying to get coming on this lane. Uh last four Chipotle or Chick fil A, Instagram or Twitter Twitter. Most underrated DV in the league. Most underrated d Jimmy Ward. I did not put this on here, Kyle or Marlon Humphrey. I don't know what the criteria is, but I'm just you're Rockie. Bro. That all right. I think you did well on that. I think you did well. Uh yeah, So that's it. We're gonna wrap it up there. T J P. You coming on. I'll see you pretty soon. So you gotta report bro Monday, this upcoming Monday. Oh that's trick. No, I'm getting more working. I'm getting that working early. You feel mesh stop, Bro, appreciate you coming on, Bro, yeh see you appreciate you h