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Rep. Blake Moore Weighs in on the Debt Ceiling Agreement

Published May 30, 2023, 9:41 PM

It's the big news of the day.... President Biden and Speaker McCarthy have sent a debt ceiling deal to Congress to pass. Rep. Blake Moore joins Inside Sources to discuss the deal and why he's supporting it

Inside sources, inside sources, America's Voice of Reason Boyd Matheson on Utah's home for elevated conversation, inside sources on KSL news radio.

Welcome back to inside sources here on K S L News radio. Again, the breaking news of the hour of course is the pending announcement from Representative Chris Stewart uh expected to announce within the next 24 hours uh that he will be stepping down, uh which of course will trigger a,

a special election cycle and I, I need to correct myself, I was wrong. Uh Lindsay er, got it right. Uh In saying how this would actually play out that each of the registered political parties would be able to put forward a candidate in that special election. And again, a lot of that gets triggered based on

if the congressman steps down and if he gives a date in terms of when he would be vacating the chair, then that would trigger that whole process uh that the governor would, would set forth. So we'll continue to monitor and watch that. Uh Thanks to Lindsay er for her coverage as we continue to watch that one play out in the meantime, of course, a lot of things happening over the weekend, President Biden and Speaker mccarthy came to an agreement to raise the debt ceiling.

Uh Now, members of both parties are getting a rare opportunity and it shouldn't be rare or radical. They're actually having a chance to read the bill before they have to vote on it. Uh Leadership, of course, on both sides are whipping votes. Uh Someone who's in the room where all of this is happening is Utah's own representative Blake Moore who joins us on the line. Uh Representative, thanks for chiming in today.

Uh I'm very excited to discuss this. It's something I've been working on significant, a significant amount of time in the last several months. So, and I appreciate the coverage. You've, you've talked about it before. It's an important topic.

Yeah. So let's dig into it uh from, from your perspective, having a chance to, to get into it now and see what is actually in

there. We've been talking about it in the context of uh Congress has been broken for a while. I think this is a chance to break it open and have a different kind of conversation about both the debt and deficit spending. Tell us what you're finding in the bill. What is it that you see as the positives? What are the things that are going to be a challenge in the days ahead?

Well, I think the overarching positive side of this is, you know, for me personally, I I ran on a few key principles and you keep them simple sometimes, right? And for me, it was make sure I'm there to support Hill Air Force Base. It's an important aspect, it's directly related to congressional work,

be a part of reversing cul debt culture and of course, be an optimistic conservative voice for the next generation. So I I keyed on those three things and, and this will be the first time I get a chance to actually, you know, support

of a reversal of debt culture, right? And so all of the provisions in the bill, if you take it, if you take a look at the big picture, there's so many different angles to this, but this is a reduction in spending overall. Uh and this is gonna be my first opportunity in Congress to be supportive of something that reverses debt culture because to this point, it's just been no votes and candidly,

I've been in the minority party and there's no real burden of governing when you're in the minority. It's just, it's probably one of the most simple things you show up, you vote, no, uh you complain about it and I did a lot of that right. There was a lot of spending bills and I voted no against the vast majority of them. And you know, I'm proud of those votes and I stick by them because debt and deficit is something that's the most important thing to me and, and then this is something that turns the coin and now that I'm in the majority,

I get a chance to, to, to, to, to potentially support something and, and that, and that means a lot to me because I, I want to be active in this space and not just show up vote. No complain, collect the government paycheck and move on like that. That's just not something I want to do. Yeah.

And so let's, let's dig into that just a little bit as uh obviously, we know that the uh the, the far left and the far right flanks uh are, are gonna be the challenge for both Hakeem Jeffries and the, and the Democrats and the minority and speaker mccarthy, of course, uh and the Republicans on the right.

Uh And as you look at that and as you've been listening to some of your colleagues and hearing some of the, you hear the loud rumblings and grumblings from the edges. Uh and clearly this is going to have to be a bipartisan bill. That was the way it was decided between the president and the speaker. Uh as you look at that, what do you hear from kind of that problem solver to blue uh dog Democrat to, you know those on the right as well. What kind of coalition is forming? What are some of the conversations you're hearing?

Well, I think that some of the things the key on is when we started this several months ago, President Biden and his team made it very clear. They did not want to negotiate. They wanted a clean debt ceiling which means no concessions, no, no conditions whatsoever. They just wanted an increase in the debt ceiling and we stood firm as an entire group of uh the entire group that we said, no, that's just not going to happen. Um

And tried to put pressure on it. they tried to delay as much as possible. So that was a big that, that was the a significant win there. And then um you saw several other things in, in here that were kind of hard lines for us. And you know, it was, we wanted to spend more, we wanted to spend less than we spent last year. That's, that's the first time the debt ceiling has ever been used in my understanding, it was, you know, 10 years ago, some sequestration that took place

where we were able to successfully lower it a little bit. But I mean, this is, this is historic and the fact that we're actually gonna reduce spending year over year and put caps on it at very, very low rates, 1% cap. I mean, that's unheard of when inflation. Is that what it's at? So there's some really good things. But what, what I'm hearing is, you know, democrats, many Democrats and, and leadership, they did not want to make any concessions. They just thought, let's raise the, let's raise the debt ceiling, let's move on. And the folks on our side

that there are folks on our side that will never vote for a debt ceiling. And, you know, they may have made a promise here or there, but they were willing to come to the table on the limit, save grow bill that we passed a few weeks ago and I actually commend them for it. So when, um, there's gonna be Republican on Republican violence over the next few days and it's gonna go through a new cycle and it's just gonna, it, it is, it's a reality. Some didn't, some are gonna out are out there saying we didn't get enough

if we didn't get enough. Well, the political reality is, is that Republicans have to win more elections if they want to get a stronger bill and this nonsense of, you know, oh, what would you should, you should, you know, all presidential candidates, what would you do? Would you veto this? I'm like, what do you mean? Would you veto this? Like,

no, if we had a Republican in the White House, we would have a better deal. If we had the Senate, we would have a better deal. But we don't have those two versions and for us to get as much as we got by sticking together in the house.

Um, it's commendable and I'm excited to, to, to kind of see that we can actually, you know, so not everybody's end up voting for it. And they're complaining that we didn't get enough because it wasn't the same bill we passed three weeks ago, that was never gonna be signed into law. And everybody knows that and anybody that says otherwise is being disingenuous. So you have to come down because this has to be signed by the President United States

and, and this is where mccarthy landed and I appreciate him sticking up for those of us that are so focused on spending to be able to get some really significant wins. But it represents our political reality is you have to, you have to find a way to come together and, and, and, and make concessions on either side. And when I look at what we've got,

this is a significant debt ceiling um piece of legislation that, that, that we've got some significant wins. Yeah. And

I think that's an important component of this, that the American people continue to, to choose to have divided government.

Uh and that creates space for the integrity of compromise. And I think that's what you're describing in terms of what's been negotiated, how that has worked uh where you can have integrity in that whole process. Uh I know there's gonna be a vote on some of the, the rules uh component to all of this. And then of course, that will really tee up uh a vote in the house. Uh Tomorrow, I know you're heading back there uh for that vote as well. Anything in particular that you're watching that we should be watching over the next 24 hours?

No, I, I, I encourage folks to, to truly look into the actual um outcomes from this bill. There's a reduction in discretionary spending that hasn't happened in 10 years. We got permitting reform. Permitting reform is one of the most important aspects to, to um energy projects, energy leases that go on um

and being able to, to, to, to, to move that forward and use this leverage point to move it forward is a significant win. Um

And uh and, and that's, and that's related to, and you know, we've been complaining about COVID overspending and COVID, we're getting several, you know, it, I think approximately $28 billion back that we stood for to get to get to get that back. Is this gonna solve our debt? No. Is this gonna solve our deficit?

No, look, we have 200 extra billion dollars that we're paying in interest just from last year alone. There are major major problems with the, with the, with the budget. They're not going to be solved in one debt ceiling bill, but this is a step in the right direction and I want to continue to use this momentum to, to go back and, and

try to accomplish something that's so important to me. Yeah.

Fantastic. Representative Blake Moore, of course, uh first congressional district here in the state of Utah. Uh an important voice in a lot of these things as it relates to the spending that goes on in the country. Uh Representative Moore, thanks for carving out time on a busy day, uh full agenda tomorrow as well. Thanks so much for making time for us.

Thank you. All right. We'll go ahead and step aside for one last break. We'll come back some final thoughts. Stick around much more to come on inside sources here on K S L News radio. We'll be right back.

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