Inside sources with Boyd Matheson

Inside sources with Boyd Matheson

last fall, Episcopalians in Utah welcomed a new bishop in september Bishop Phyllis Spiegel was consecrated as the 12th bishop of Utah for the Episcopal Church and we are just thrilled beyond belief to not just have her, but to have her in studio today to talk about her role, to talk about some of the important work that's happening and what's coming next. And bishop speaker, we are so thrilled to have you

last fall, Episcopalians in Utah welcomed a new bishop in september Bishop Phyllis Spiegel was consecrated as the 12th bishop of Utah for the Episcopal Church and we are just thrilled beyond belief to not just have her, but to have her in studio today to talk about her role, to talk about some of the important work that's happening and what's coming next. And bishop speaker, we are so thrilled to have you

welcome to inside sources,

welcome to inside sources,

what a delight to be here with you and your listeners today.

what a delight to be here with you and your listeners today.

Well, we are just thrilled and I know you have been just a little busy since september.

Well, we are just thrilled and I know you have been just a little busy since september.

It's been fast and furious, but really fun and fast and furious.

It's been fast and furious, but really fun and fast and furious.

Yeah, well, one of the things that I love about your approach is that you're, you're focused on this idea of deepening discipleship through that, that daily discipline and also just talking about that daily walk with God and give us a little sense of that

Yeah, well, one of the things that I love about your approach is that you're, you're focused on this idea of deepening discipleship through that, that daily discipline and also just talking about that daily walk with God and give us a little sense of that

this work came to the Episcopal Church through our presiding bishop, Bishop Michael curry some people know him from the royal wedding that he did, but he's our leader of, of the whole Episcopal Church worldwide. And

this work came to the Episcopal Church through our presiding bishop, Bishop Michael curry some people know him from the royal wedding that he did, but he's our leader of, of the whole Episcopal Church worldwide. And

he realized that the Episcopalians needed to go back to the roots of having a daily rule of life and I have to say boy, it changed my life. So the more it changed my life, the more I wanted to change other people's lives with it. So now it's just my soapbox and I stand on it at every chance I get So yeah, so there's seven practices that we bring into our daily life of, of turning, turning from our own ways to God's ways. So just stopping and saying, you know, trying to make a decision,

he realized that the Episcopalians needed to go back to the roots of having a daily rule of life and I have to say boy, it changed my life. So the more it changed my life, the more I wanted to change other people's lives with it. So now it's just my soapbox and I stand on it at every chance I get So yeah, so there's seven practices that we bring into our daily life of, of turning, turning from our own ways to God's ways. So just stopping and saying, you know, trying to make a decision,

well wait, am I the agent of that or or do I need to ask God? So this is like learning and praying and worshiping and blessing and going out in the world and then resting and that's countercultural. That last one,

well wait, am I the agent of that or or do I need to ask God? So this is like learning and praying and worshiping and blessing and going out in the world and then resting and that's countercultural. That last one,

We actually talk about that in the context of something I found from George MacDonald who said way back in the 1800s, that is not, it is not always required of man to work. There is such a thing as sacred idleness and he was worried that it was being neglected back in the

We actually talk about that in the context of something I found from George MacDonald who said way back in the 1800s, that is not, it is not always required of man to work. There is such a thing as sacred idleness and he was worried that it was being neglected back in the

1800 and so that rest, that pause is so important in our lives today.

1800 and so that rest, that pause is so important in our lives today.

George would not be happy with where we are doing, he

George would not be happy with where we are doing, he

would not, he would definitely not. So we love that whole idea of rest and and pausing and slowing down just to make sure we got our bearings straight in terms of what we are and where we're doing. You focus a lot on this community of christ building this sacred community, tell a little bit more about that and how you're trying to implement that here in the state of Utah

would not, he would definitely not. So we love that whole idea of rest and and pausing and slowing down just to make sure we got our bearings straight in terms of what we are and where we're doing. You focus a lot on this community of christ building this sacred community, tell a little bit more about that and how you're trying to implement that here in the state of Utah

community is probably the most important word. It's about reaching out to others. It's, it's a great commandment. So you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your soul and with all your mind and you will love your neighbor as you love yourself. So love of God and love of neighbor are inextricable. So

community is probably the most important word. It's about reaching out to others. It's, it's a great commandment. So you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your soul and with all your mind and you will love your neighbor as you love yourself. So love of God and love of neighbor are inextricable. So

so how I walk in my life as a disciple is how I walk with my neighbor and my neighbor is not to find as you know the people who live on my

so how I walk in my life as a disciple is how I walk with my neighbor and my neighbor is not to find as you know the people who live on my

street. Although I

street. Although I

have to say one of the things I love about Utah is I have amazing, I've got a great street. So there's there's a beauty to saying

have to say one of the things I love about Utah is I have amazing, I've got a great street. So there's there's a beauty to saying

it breaks our isolation right out of the last three years, isolation has been a huge word. Well let's put community in place of that, let's really build up who are the needs of others who are, whose needs are not being seen. And and when we think about that, that's not always people who are in house or the people who are below poverty line, we think about those, those neighbors, but also we have neighbors who are isolated

it breaks our isolation right out of the last three years, isolation has been a huge word. Well let's put community in place of that, let's really build up who are the needs of others who are, whose needs are not being seen. And and when we think about that, that's not always people who are in house or the people who are below poverty line, we think about those, those neighbors, but also we have neighbors who are isolated

through age or illness or um their family doesn't live near them. Yeah. So building community, it's the way we know God.

through age or illness or um their family doesn't live near them. Yeah. So building community, it's the way we know God.

Yeah, absolutely. And that that connectedness I think is such an important thing that I think we really lost during the course of the pandemic and not just the pandemic, I think even with all our technology, it was actually making us more disconnected than connected on the important things, those crucial convoy

Yeah, absolutely. And that that connectedness I think is such an important thing that I think we really lost during the course of the pandemic and not just the pandemic, I think even with all our technology, it was actually making us more disconnected than connected on the important things, those crucial convoy

and in that connection. I know one of the areas that you're really focusing on is is that connectedness as it relates to stepping in the breach in terms of getting across our differences and as it relates to racism and division, how are we approaching that as a disciple in community?

and in that connection. I know one of the areas that you're really focusing on is is that connectedness as it relates to stepping in the breach in terms of getting across our differences and as it relates to racism and division, how are we approaching that as a disciple in community?

We have a four pillars to what we call becoming beloved community. So that that phrase has been used since the civil rights time and so that becoming beloved community, the four pillars of tell the story. So that's the first way we go across the breach is we invite space, we create space

We have a four pillars to what we call becoming beloved community. So that that phrase has been used since the civil rights time and so that becoming beloved community, the four pillars of tell the story. So that's the first way we go across the breach is we invite space, we create space

and invite people in it to it to tell their story, which means we have to be really good listeners. We need your listening skills boy. Like that's that's what we need. So as we encounter people to start learning how to ask a really good question, you know when we're standing in the grocery store line

and invite people in it to it to tell their story, which means we have to be really good listeners. We need your listening skills boy. Like that's that's what we need. So as we encounter people to start learning how to ask a really good question, you know when we're standing in the grocery store line

ask a good question. Yeah.

ask a good question. Yeah.

And and an even better follow up question right? Because I think listening, I'm so glad you you started with that because to me listening is the most holy thing we can do for another person is not just to kind of listen and then say what we want to say but to truly listen and be listening. So intent that your natural response is another question

And and an even better follow up question right? Because I think listening, I'm so glad you you started with that because to me listening is the most holy thing we can do for another person is not just to kind of listen and then say what we want to say but to truly listen and be listening. So intent that your natural response is another question

yesterday three times during the day the story of jesus with the woman at the well came up in conversation and you know, when that happens boy, three times three times, Episcopalians love three, you know, Father son and Holy Spirit three is our number, but but it is, there's there's a message there and, and jesus sat and listened with this woman in the heat of the day. So I'm thinking about, you know, my 1st august in Salt Lake City,

yesterday three times during the day the story of jesus with the woman at the well came up in conversation and you know, when that happens boy, three times three times, Episcopalians love three, you know, Father son and Holy Spirit three is our number, but but it is, there's there's a message there and, and jesus sat and listened with this woman in the heat of the day. So I'm thinking about, you know, my 1st august in Salt Lake City,

sitting out on the front plaza of the Episcopal Church center and listening. You know, that's, that's some listening skills right there, that's, that's the teacher that we have on how to listen,

sitting out on the front plaza of the Episcopal Church center and listening. You know, that's, that's some listening skills right there, that's, that's the teacher that we have on how to listen,

I love that. Absolutely love that. Also want to get something, you've got an event coming up tomorrow, you've had some of your people down at a rooted in jesus conference, tell us about

I love that. Absolutely love that. Also want to get something, you've got an event coming up tomorrow, you've had some of your people down at a rooted in jesus conference, tell us about

that.

that.

So this conference happened just prior to Covid in Atlanta. So the whole Episcopal Church gathered together and brought people to say, we're gonna be rooted in jesus, we're gonna walk in the way of love, which is the way of jesus love and so brought people together and like what we would call like a huge revival. I mean, this thing was filled with spirit, the music was incredible.

So this conference happened just prior to Covid in Atlanta. So the whole Episcopal Church gathered together and brought people to say, we're gonna be rooted in jesus, we're gonna walk in the way of love, which is the way of jesus love and so brought people together and like what we would call like a huge revival. I mean, this thing was filled with spirit, the music was incredible.

And then Covid hit. And so everybody had this enthusiasm and then I couldn't go anywhere. So when the diocese of Utah wrote their profile looking for a new bishop, that was front and center, the questions, we want a bishop is gonna do something with our passion for rooted in jesus and I'm like, you are singing my song. And so I really, so from that time when I first read it in the profile a year and a half ago,

And then Covid hit. And so everybody had this enthusiasm and then I couldn't go anywhere. So when the diocese of Utah wrote their profile looking for a new bishop, that was front and center, the questions, we want a bishop is gonna do something with our passion for rooted in jesus and I'm like, you are singing my song. And so I really, so from that time when I first read it in the profile a year and a half ago,

it's here, it's tomorrow. So we, we are doing what we call a homecoming for the people who went to root it in, jesus, come on, let's get back, let's tell me what you heard, tell the story. That's right. So we're gonna start with that actually, we're gonna break into groups and say, what lit your heart

it's here, it's tomorrow. So we, we are doing what we call a homecoming for the people who went to root it in, jesus, come on, let's get back, let's tell me what you heard, tell the story. That's right. So we're gonna start with that actually, we're gonna break into groups and say, what lit your heart

on fire. What do you think the Episcopal Church should be doing in Utah? Who is it that we should be talking, who's our neighbor, who should we be loving? Like jesus loves and and that's, that's a hallmark of the Episcopal Church, is we love, we love broadly without barrier, you know? And so to, to really talk about that

on fire. What do you think the Episcopal Church should be doing in Utah? Who is it that we should be talking, who's our neighbor, who should we be loving? Like jesus loves and and that's, that's a hallmark of the Episcopal Church, is we love, we love broadly without barrier, you know? And so to, to really talk about that

um tomorrow, so we're gonna be, we're gonna be praying some good prayers, singing some good songs and really rooting ourselves in the love and power of jesus.

um tomorrow, so we're gonna be, we're gonna be praying some good prayers, singing some good songs and really rooting ourselves in the love and power of jesus.

I love that when, when you were describing that, because I love the way you can tell a story, the image that came to my mind with that, Covid break in between. So you have this rooted in jesus and then you have Covid and it was, I just had this visual of being everyone feeling being buried, uh, but they really weren't being buried, I think we were being planted.

I love that when, when you were describing that, because I love the way you can tell a story, the image that came to my mind with that, Covid break in between. So you have this rooted in jesus and then you have Covid and it was, I just had this visual of being everyone feeling being buried, uh, but they really weren't being buried, I think we were being planted.

We were dormant, right? It's the season of dormancy that allows the growth

We were dormant, right? It's the season of dormancy that allows the growth

bloom. I, I also know you've got a conference coming up in april, tell us about

bloom. I, I also know you've got a conference coming up in april, tell us about

that, that one's, maybe I'm excited about it, but also really nervous because that's, that's a big official act for me is the bishop. So robert's rules of order, you know, have somebody whispering in my ear

that, that one's, maybe I'm excited about it, but also really nervous because that's, that's a big official act for me is the bishop. So robert's rules of order, you know, have somebody whispering in my ear

bishop, you forgot to do so, But but we're gonna start it from the very beginning as the whole conference is gonna be organized according to becoming beloved community. So from the very, very first moment on, we're gonna have, and we always have an opening worship as we do in the church, we're gonna have an opening worship. But instead of doing it just amongst ourselves,

bishop, you forgot to do so, But but we're gonna start it from the very beginning as the whole conference is gonna be organized according to becoming beloved community. So from the very, very first moment on, we're gonna have, and we always have an opening worship as we do in the church, we're gonna have an opening worship. But instead of doing it just amongst ourselves,

we're gonna be out in prices where we're having it. I wanted to go into the middle of, of the state, the dioceses, the whole state. And so the region of the, I should say, of the physical church that, that I'm over the whole state of Utah plus page Arizona. So we're gonna be in price and we're going to invite the ecumenical leaders of the churches in price to join us for that worship. So we'll be out of the fairgrounds outside. Hopefully spring will be doing its thing and we won't be in too many parker's but, and and we're going to uh ask that

we're gonna be out in prices where we're having it. I wanted to go into the middle of, of the state, the dioceses, the whole state. And so the region of the, I should say, of the physical church that, that I'm over the whole state of Utah plus page Arizona. So we're gonna be in price and we're going to invite the ecumenical leaders of the churches in price to join us for that worship. So we'll be out of the fairgrounds outside. Hopefully spring will be doing its thing and we won't be in too many parker's but, and and we're going to uh ask that

the, the churches of christ pray for the work that we're doing as Episcopalians and then ask them what we can pray for for their work and that together we are more and that that's the community, there are not barriers in the body of christ,

the, the churches of christ pray for the work that we're doing as Episcopalians and then ask them what we can pray for for their work and that together we are more and that that's the community, there are not barriers in the body of christ,

So powerful, so, so powerful. Want to sneak in one last question before we run out of time here. So as you've begun this effort, as the 12th Bishop of the Episcopal Church here for the state of Utah,

So powerful, so, so powerful. Want to sneak in one last question before we run out of time here. So as you've begun this effort, as the 12th Bishop of the Episcopal Church here for the state of Utah,

what has surprised you? What have you learned since beginning this, this journey of discipleship here in the state of Utah.

what has surprised you? What have you learned since beginning this, this journey of discipleship here in the state of Utah.

The needs of people are great,

The needs of people are great,

the UN housed population has got to be addressed the needs that we all have of protecting the great salt lake of protecting our national monuments because we are, we are only as good as our land, right? And then uh, there's a lot of work to be done on racism. The Utes are a powerful part of our

the UN housed population has got to be addressed the needs that we all have of protecting the great salt lake of protecting our national monuments because we are, we are only as good as our land, right? And then uh, there's a lot of work to be done on racism. The Utes are a powerful part of our

Episcopal Church and I feel the need to create spaces for conversation within this state to lift up to lift up the needs of others. That's,

Episcopal Church and I feel the need to create spaces for conversation within this state to lift up to lift up the needs of others. That's,

it's what I'm called to. So I am really excited to be here and blessed to be in the state of Utah.

it's what I'm called to. So I am really excited to be here and blessed to be in the state of Utah.

We are thrilled to have you in the state of Utah and as you said, you have a big bite and along to coming with with everything that you have going on. And I have about 57,000 other questions. So this is not the end. This is just the end of the beginning today. But so thrilled to have joining us today. Bishop Phyllis Spiegel

We are thrilled to have you in the state of Utah and as you said, you have a big bite and along to coming with with everything that you have going on. And I have about 57,000 other questions. So this is not the end. This is just the end of the beginning today. But so thrilled to have joining us today. Bishop Phyllis Spiegel

of course consecrated as the 12th bishop of Utah for the Episcopal Church last fall. And uh, if you ever just wanna walk away with a smile on your face and a different view of your fellow travelers, just hang out with Bishop Spiegel uh it only takes five minutes. Bishop, thanks so much for joining us today.

of course consecrated as the 12th bishop of Utah for the Episcopal Church last fall. And uh, if you ever just wanna walk away with a smile on your face and a different view of your fellow travelers, just hang out with Bishop Spiegel uh it only takes five minutes. Bishop, thanks so much for joining us today.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

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