When the National Disability Insurance Scheme was created in 2013, it was proof that a rich society could find the money to help people living with a disability. This was social democracy at work.
Twelve years on, it has turned into a $62 billion behemoth, on track to cost more than the age pension.
The Albanese government last week admitted the scheme was at risk of collapse. It announced a root-and-branch overhaul to remove 300,000 Australians from the scheme in the space of a few years.
The man leading the contentious reform agenda is Health Minister Mark Butler.
The 55-year-old South Australian has emerged as one of Labor’s most energetic ministers, taking on big tasks in aged care, tobacco control and disability support.
He’s also been asked if he might be the next Labor leader after Anthony Albanese.
He joins this bonus episode of Inside Politics with chief political correspondent Paul Sakkal.
Background reading

Labor’s baby a ‘honeypot of fraud’ and the gas tax’s viral moment
25:20

No ‘drill baby drill’ moment: Chris Bowen on oil shock’s impact on green Australia
37:11

Matt Canavan on his love of EVs, and calling out Pauline Hanson
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