The Combine Conversations series concludes on the final day of the 2025 NFL Combine with The Athletic’s NFL Draft analyst Dane Brugler and ESPN’s Matt Miller. Brugler joins Matt Taylor and Jeffrey Gorman on Radio Row at the Combine to discuss the strong depth of tight ends in this draft class and which players could be options for the Colts with the 14th overall pick. Miller then sits down with Matt Taylor and Casey Vallier to break down the Colts' biggest needs and explain why the secondary depth in this year’s draft is surprisingly thin.

Indianapolis Colts Podcasts will bring you exclusive interviews and in-depth breakdowns every week with our lineup of shows, including Instant Reaction, The Colts Show with JJ Stankevitz, The Jack Doyle Podcast and Inside Football with Rick Venturi. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts, and you can watch episodes on YouTube as well.

<p>Indianapolis Colts Podcasts will bring you exclusive interviews and in-depth breakdowns every week with our lineup of shows, including Instant Reaction, The Colts Show with JJ Stankevitz, The Jack Doyle Podcast and Inside Football with Rick Venturi. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts, and you can watch episodes on YouTube as well.</p>

Indianapolis Colts Podcasts will bring you exclusive interviews and in-depth breakdowns every week.

Indianapolis Colts Podcasts

Indianapolis Colts Podcasts will bring you exclusive interviews and in-depth breakdowns every week with our lineup of shows, including Instant Reaction, The Colts Show with JJ Stankevitz and Inside Football with Rick Venturi. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts, and you can watch episodes on YouTube as well.

<p>Indianapolis Colts Podcasts will bring you exclusive interviews and in-depth breakdowns every week with our lineup of shows, including Instant Reaction, The Colts Show with JJ Stankevitz and Inside Football with Rick Venturi. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts, and you can watch episodes on YouTube as well.</p>

Combine Conversations: Dane Brugler and Matt Miller

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