Hi there friend. This is Janet Parshall. Thank you so much for downloading this broadcast. And as always, I hope you hear something that's going to help you grow up in him and encourage you to get out there in the marketplace of ideas so you can let your light so shine. You can influence and occupy, and you can seek the welfare of the city. But before you go and listen, let me take one moment to tell you about this month's truth tool. It's called The Anointed One, and it's really a marvelous way to study the scriptures. It takes the four Gospels, combines them all together, but writes it in chronological order. Now, it was never designed to replace your Bible. Read it alongside your Bible. So you have the original text of God's Word, but also just so you can better understand who Jesus is and what he's done for us to be able to read it chronologically. All four of the Gospels condensed together is really a remarkable way to start to understand who the Savior is. It's called the Anointed One, and it's yours for a gift of any amount. We're listener supported radio, so it's my way of saying thank you. When you make a contribution. You can do that by calling 877 Janet 58 877 Janet 58. Make a gift of any amount and I'll send you the Anointed one. Or you can give online, if you prefer in the market with Janet parshall.org. Scroll to the bottom of the page. There's the cover of the book. Click on and make your donation. While you're there, consider becoming a partial partner. Those are people who give every single month at a level of their own choosing as my way of saying thank you. You always get the monthly truth tool, but you get a weekly newsletter that includes my writing and an audio piece just for my partial partners. So please consider giving to In the Market with Janet Parshall, call 877 Janet 58 877 Janet 58 or online at in the market with Janet parshall.org. Now please enjoy the broadcast.

Hi there friend. This is Janet Parshall. Thank you so much for downloading this broadcast. And as always, I hope you hear something that's going to help you grow up in him and encourage you to get out there in the marketplace of ideas so you can let your light so shine. You can influence and occupy, and you can seek the welfare of the city. But before you go and listen, let me take one moment to tell you about this month's truth tool. It's called The Anointed One, and it's really a marvelous way to study the scriptures. It takes the four Gospels, combines them all together, but writes it in chronological order. Now, it was never designed to replace your Bible. Read it alongside your Bible. So you have the original text of God's Word, but also just so you can better understand who Jesus is and what he's done for us to be able to read it chronologically. All four of the Gospels condensed together is really a remarkable way to start to understand who the Savior is. It's called the Anointed One, and it's yours for a gift of any amount. We're listener supported radio, so it's my way of saying thank you. When you make a contribution. You can do that by calling 877 Janet 58 877 Janet 58. Make a gift of any amount and I'll send you the Anointed one. Or you can give online, if you prefer in the market with Janet parshall.org. Scroll to the bottom of the page. There's the cover of the book. Click on and make your donation. While you're there, consider becoming a partial partner. Those are people who give every single month at a level of their own choosing as my way of saying thank you. You always get the monthly truth tool, but you get a weekly newsletter that includes my writing and an audio piece just for my partial partners. So please consider giving to In the Market with Janet Parshall, call 877 Janet 58 877 Janet 58 or online at in the market with Janet parshall.org. Now please enjoy the broadcast.

Here are some of the news headlines we're watching.

Here are some of the news headlines we're watching.

The conference was over. The president won a pledge.

The conference was over. The president won a pledge.

From Americans worshiping government over God. An extremely.

From Americans worshiping government over God. An extremely.

Rare safety move by.

Rare safety move by.

A major in 17 years. The Palestinians and Israelis negotiated.

A major in 17 years. The Palestinians and Israelis negotiated.

We hear a lot about the.

We hear a lot about the.

Hi friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall and a very happy Thursday to you. Hope you're having a wonderful day. Glad you're going to join us. We're going to cover a lot of territory this hour. I want to start with the report from I-24. That's a news channel in Israel, by the way. You know, there's so much going on all the time in Israel. It's why so often in these news blocks, the first story that I share with you is Israel. And I do it for a multiplicity of reasons, not the least of which is if you're going through life with the Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other, you don't ever want to take your eyes off of Israel. That's very much germane to prophecy, the fulfillment of prophecy. If you don't believe me, get in the word. Certainly Israel is in the news almost every single day, and I don't think that's by accident, because the core of all of this is very much a spiritual conflict. The father of lies, the great accuser himself, cannot stand the Jewish people. Why? Because I must think that he thinks if he could eradicate the Jewish people, then there would be no Jewish Messiah. and therefore he would have eliminated the one he hates the most. Well, sorry. I know who's going to tell him. You want to tell him that? It doesn't end real well. Okay, I'll tell him. Bottom line is, whether it's feral, whether it's Herod, or whether it's Hitler, or whether it's what we're seeing today, this, or whether it's Hamas. You see this constant move to annihilate the Jewish people. So we always need to be praying for the peace of Jerusalem. That is a biblical directive, by the way, and it's an either or. It's time for us to grow up. By the way, saying that you are pro-Israel doesn't mean you're anti the people who live in Gaza. Raise your hand if you've been to Gaza. I have my hand has been there. It's some of the worst poverty I've ever seen in the world. I remember a woman living under a piece of cardboard leaning against a building. That, of course, was before Craig and I came under gunfire when we went into Gaza. But that's a story for another day. The bottom line it is not an either or terrorists. You realize there is no state of Palestine and Hamas is not a government entity. It's a terrorist organization. And when Yasser Arafat was alive, when you would Craig and I would travel through Israel and we would move, uh, not taking groups, but we would be traveling by ourselves, and we would probably have a private guide that would take us. We'd go into towns and everything would be rubble, poverty, dust, dirt, except for one building. And I would say, whose building is that? Well, that's one of the many homes that Yasser Arafat owns. And Yasser Arafat was known to walk around with a notebook in his pocket, where he kept all of the bank accounts, where he would take foreign aid, and he would keep it for himself to make sure that he was living high off the hog. But his people didn't. That's terrorism. That's the working definition of terrorism. So my heart breaks for the Gazan people who are under the heavy boot of a terrorist organization. So being pro-Israel doesn't make you anti the people who live in Gaza. That's flawed, sloppy thinking. But you cannot say that Israel doesn't have a right to a be a sovereign nation. They were approved by the United. First of all, they were approved by God. I give you the book of Deuteronomy. If you want to read the deed of the land, open up the Old Testament. But you realize in 1948, the United Nations recognizes the state of Israel in the first nation state, was the United States to say we affirm their existence. And the next day things got rough for Israel, and it's been that way since they have started their existence as a Jewish state, not as the Jewish people, but as a Jewish state. It is said, as the only land on planet Earth that is built with the rifle in one hand and the shovel in the other, constantly having to protect itself. So that continues to this day. I turn now back to the I24 news report that I want to give you. So we've been watching what's been happening with the unrest in Syria. And this in fact, it's not stopped by the way it continues in Syria. But now you've got outside agitators that are fomenting it even more, and who knows how that's going to end. Now, Israel is very concerned that Syrian rebels could seize chemical weapons. Here's the report from I24.

Hi friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall and a very happy Thursday to you. Hope you're having a wonderful day. Glad you're going to join us. We're going to cover a lot of territory this hour. I want to start with the report from I-24. That's a news channel in Israel, by the way. You know, there's so much going on all the time in Israel. It's why so often in these news blocks, the first story that I share with you is Israel. And I do it for a multiplicity of reasons, not the least of which is if you're going through life with the Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other, you don't ever want to take your eyes off of Israel. That's very much germane to prophecy, the fulfillment of prophecy. If you don't believe me, get in the word. Certainly Israel is in the news almost every single day, and I don't think that's by accident, because the core of all of this is very much a spiritual conflict. The father of lies, the great accuser himself, cannot stand the Jewish people. Why? Because I must think that he thinks if he could eradicate the Jewish people, then there would be no Jewish Messiah. and therefore he would have eliminated the one he hates the most. Well, sorry. I know who's going to tell him. You want to tell him that? It doesn't end real well. Okay, I'll tell him. Bottom line is, whether it's feral, whether it's Herod, or whether it's Hitler, or whether it's what we're seeing today, this, or whether it's Hamas. You see this constant move to annihilate the Jewish people. So we always need to be praying for the peace of Jerusalem. That is a biblical directive, by the way, and it's an either or. It's time for us to grow up. By the way, saying that you are pro-Israel doesn't mean you're anti the people who live in Gaza. Raise your hand if you've been to Gaza. I have my hand has been there. It's some of the worst poverty I've ever seen in the world. I remember a woman living under a piece of cardboard leaning against a building. That, of course, was before Craig and I came under gunfire when we went into Gaza. But that's a story for another day. The bottom line it is not an either or terrorists. You realize there is no state of Palestine and Hamas is not a government entity. It's a terrorist organization. And when Yasser Arafat was alive, when you would Craig and I would travel through Israel and we would move, uh, not taking groups, but we would be traveling by ourselves, and we would probably have a private guide that would take us. We'd go into towns and everything would be rubble, poverty, dust, dirt, except for one building. And I would say, whose building is that? Well, that's one of the many homes that Yasser Arafat owns. And Yasser Arafat was known to walk around with a notebook in his pocket, where he kept all of the bank accounts, where he would take foreign aid, and he would keep it for himself to make sure that he was living high off the hog. But his people didn't. That's terrorism. That's the working definition of terrorism. So my heart breaks for the Gazan people who are under the heavy boot of a terrorist organization. So being pro-Israel doesn't make you anti the people who live in Gaza. That's flawed, sloppy thinking. But you cannot say that Israel doesn't have a right to a be a sovereign nation. They were approved by the United. First of all, they were approved by God. I give you the book of Deuteronomy. If you want to read the deed of the land, open up the Old Testament. But you realize in 1948, the United Nations recognizes the state of Israel in the first nation state, was the United States to say we affirm their existence. And the next day things got rough for Israel, and it's been that way since they have started their existence as a Jewish state, not as the Jewish people, but as a Jewish state. It is said, as the only land on planet Earth that is built with the rifle in one hand and the shovel in the other, constantly having to protect itself. So that continues to this day. I turn now back to the I24 news report that I want to give you. So we've been watching what's been happening with the unrest in Syria. And this in fact, it's not stopped by the way it continues in Syria. But now you've got outside agitators that are fomenting it even more, and who knows how that's going to end. Now, Israel is very concerned that Syrian rebels could seize chemical weapons. Here's the report from I24.

Syrian rebels continue their swift advance on areas controlled by the Assad regime across the country. Facing embarrassment by the insurgents surprise success on the battlefield, Syria's allies are engaged in a blame game, pointing the finger at a surprising culprit.

Syrian rebels continue their swift advance on areas controlled by the Assad regime across the country. Facing embarrassment by the insurgents surprise success on the battlefield, Syria's allies are engaged in a blame game, pointing the finger at a surprising culprit.

The Zionist regime has been actively supporting various terrorist groups. Their goal is clearly to weaken the resistance in Syria. As one of the key elements in the resistance against occupation, it's always an old Israeli plot to disrupt security of the whole region and sow discord between various Islamic groups and countries.

The Zionist regime has been actively supporting various terrorist groups. Their goal is clearly to weaken the resistance in Syria. As one of the key elements in the resistance against occupation, it's always an old Israeli plot to disrupt security of the whole region and sow discord between various Islamic groups and countries.

Even Russia, with whom Israel maintains diplomatic ties. Alluded to the so-called suspicious timing of the rebel offensive.

Even Russia, with whom Israel maintains diplomatic ties. Alluded to the so-called suspicious timing of the rebel offensive.

It is.

It is.

Simply impossible not to notice that this attack was carried out on the same day that the agreement on the Cessation of Hostilities between Israel and Lebanese Hezbollah came into.

Simply impossible not to notice that this attack was carried out on the same day that the agreement on the Cessation of Hostilities between Israel and Lebanese Hezbollah came into.

Effect. There is no.

Effect. There is no.

Doubt that the terrorist groups would not have dared to undertake such a daring action, without the instigation and comprehensive support of external forces that are seeking to provoke a new round of armed confrontation in Syria.

Doubt that the terrorist groups would not have dared to undertake such a daring action, without the instigation and comprehensive support of external forces that are seeking to provoke a new round of armed confrontation in Syria.

The Iranian axis access routinely accuses the United States and Israel of supporting extremist groups in the region. That's mainly due to Israel's continued strikes on Assad regime and Hezbollah targets in Syria, including Tuesday's drone strike eliminating Hezbollah's liaison to the Syrian army. But Israel is currently more concerned that Islamist rebels, or Iranian militias operating in Syria could get a hold of Assad's chemical weapons.

The Iranian axis access routinely accuses the United States and Israel of supporting extremist groups in the region. That's mainly due to Israel's continued strikes on Assad regime and Hezbollah targets in Syria, including Tuesday's drone strike eliminating Hezbollah's liaison to the Syrian army. But Israel is currently more concerned that Islamist rebels, or Iranian militias operating in Syria could get a hold of Assad's chemical weapons.

We are constantly monitoring what is happening in Syria. We are determined to protect Israel's vital interests and also to preserve the achievements of the war.

We are constantly monitoring what is happening in Syria. We are determined to protect Israel's vital interests and also to preserve the achievements of the war.

With the rebels seizing control of military sites belonging to the Assad regime, the IDF assesses that Israel might be forced to take preemptive action in order to prevent them from obtaining advanced weaponry. Such an operation would not only impact Syria, but could have implications on the entire Middle East.

With the rebels seizing control of military sites belonging to the Assad regime, the IDF assesses that Israel might be forced to take preemptive action in order to prevent them from obtaining advanced weaponry. Such an operation would not only impact Syria, but could have implications on the entire Middle East.

And that's why we share these stories with you. Implications for the entire Middle East. Now, again, if you're going through life with the newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other. Those days are coming. It's not if, it's when they come. So we continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. We continue to pray for wisdom for the leaders that try to deal with life in that part of the world. We pray for the protection of the innocent people who are caught in the crosshairs of bad terrorist organizations. So you've got terrorist organizations in Lebanon, you've got terrorist organizations in Syria, you've got terrorist organizations, um, just surrounding the nation of Israel. And then you've got the Mediterranean on the west side of the country as well. So very tumultuous times, but not surprising if you're rooted in the word. So stay in the word so that you can make sense of what's going on in the newspaper every single day. Quick word about this month's truth tool. It's the anointed one. The author put the four gospels together in chronological order. It's not to replace your Bible. You stay in the Bible. First lesson always Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. But wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to read chronologically what the four gospels tell you, so that you could see all of the things happening in the order in which they're told, in the different ways in the four Gospels. It's an absolutely fabulous book, and it's going to make you fall in love very much with the Gospels. Craig and I were just talking over the weekend. The man who led Craig to the Lord said, study your Bible absolutely from Genesis to Revelation, but never wander far from the Gospels. Isn't that great advice? Spot on. The anointed One yours for a gift of any amount, just call 877 Janet 58 877 Janet 58. Any amount will send you a copy of the Anointed One or online at in the market with Janet parshall.org. Thanks, friends. We're going to take a break. Be right back. If you could read all four Gospels in one book to hear the story of Jesus in chronological order, would you? Well, that's why I've chosen The Anointed One as this month's truth tool. Use this book, along with your Bible, to truly grasp who Jesus is and what he did for us. As for your copy of The Anointed One, when you give a gift of any amount in the market, call 877 Janet 58. That's 877 Janet 58 or go to in the market with Janet parshall.org. So I have to credit my husband for helping me fall in love with archaeology because like so many of you, I thought it was just dusty stones. What in the world could be so interesting about the science of archaeology? Well, if you fall in love with God's Word, you have to get pretty excited about archaeology, particularly when archaeological finds in Israel, again and again and again affirm the historicity and the validity of the scriptures. That's one of the reasons why we should be interested in archaeology. So very often you'll hear me talk about the latest archaeological finds through the IAA, or you'll hear me talk about some find that recently substantiates and dates something that's going on in history. In fact, there was just a coin found that affirms the first temple in Israel. You'll have to get my commentary to read that, but it's just an amazing find. But in the world of archaeological finds in the Jewish state. Perhaps there is none more exciting and more important than finding the Dead Sea Scrolls. In fact, Greg even has a Bible called the Dead Sea Scrolls Bible, which really translates exactly what's there. The closest I've ever come to seeing the Dead Sea Scrolls, or part of them, was the Museum of the Scroll in Israel, where the Book of Isaiah goes all the way around in this gorgeously designed building. And if I were to open my Bible and read it, and if I could read Hebrew, I would say that almost jot and tittle. It's a match. So it's really exciting to be able to see that even the rocks cry out as Scripture says. Well, guess what? If you live in the western part of the United States, you have an opportunity to see something Craig and I would love to be able to see. And that is the Dead Sea Scrolls. Here. To tell you more about this is Melissa Geller. She's the chief marketing officer for the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute. Melissa, the warmest of welcomes. Now, the first thing I want to ask you is put together the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and why you would even have these artifacts in the first place.

And that's why we share these stories with you. Implications for the entire Middle East. Now, again, if you're going through life with the newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other. Those days are coming. It's not if, it's when they come. So we continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. We continue to pray for wisdom for the leaders that try to deal with life in that part of the world. We pray for the protection of the innocent people who are caught in the crosshairs of bad terrorist organizations. So you've got terrorist organizations in Lebanon, you've got terrorist organizations in Syria, you've got terrorist organizations, um, just surrounding the nation of Israel. And then you've got the Mediterranean on the west side of the country as well. So very tumultuous times, but not surprising if you're rooted in the word. So stay in the word so that you can make sense of what's going on in the newspaper every single day. Quick word about this month's truth tool. It's the anointed one. The author put the four gospels together in chronological order. It's not to replace your Bible. You stay in the Bible. First lesson always Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. But wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to read chronologically what the four gospels tell you, so that you could see all of the things happening in the order in which they're told, in the different ways in the four Gospels. It's an absolutely fabulous book, and it's going to make you fall in love very much with the Gospels. Craig and I were just talking over the weekend. The man who led Craig to the Lord said, study your Bible absolutely from Genesis to Revelation, but never wander far from the Gospels. Isn't that great advice? Spot on. The anointed One yours for a gift of any amount, just call 877 Janet 58 877 Janet 58. Any amount will send you a copy of the Anointed One or online at in the market with Janet parshall.org. Thanks, friends. We're going to take a break. Be right back. If you could read all four Gospels in one book to hear the story of Jesus in chronological order, would you? Well, that's why I've chosen The Anointed One as this month's truth tool. Use this book, along with your Bible, to truly grasp who Jesus is and what he did for us. As for your copy of The Anointed One, when you give a gift of any amount in the market, call 877 Janet 58. That's 877 Janet 58 or go to in the market with Janet parshall.org. So I have to credit my husband for helping me fall in love with archaeology because like so many of you, I thought it was just dusty stones. What in the world could be so interesting about the science of archaeology? Well, if you fall in love with God's Word, you have to get pretty excited about archaeology, particularly when archaeological finds in Israel, again and again and again affirm the historicity and the validity of the scriptures. That's one of the reasons why we should be interested in archaeology. So very often you'll hear me talk about the latest archaeological finds through the IAA, or you'll hear me talk about some find that recently substantiates and dates something that's going on in history. In fact, there was just a coin found that affirms the first temple in Israel. You'll have to get my commentary to read that, but it's just an amazing find. But in the world of archaeological finds in the Jewish state. Perhaps there is none more exciting and more important than finding the Dead Sea Scrolls. In fact, Greg even has a Bible called the Dead Sea Scrolls Bible, which really translates exactly what's there. The closest I've ever come to seeing the Dead Sea Scrolls, or part of them, was the Museum of the Scroll in Israel, where the Book of Isaiah goes all the way around in this gorgeously designed building. And if I were to open my Bible and read it, and if I could read Hebrew, I would say that almost jot and tittle. It's a match. So it's really exciting to be able to see that even the rocks cry out as Scripture says. Well, guess what? If you live in the western part of the United States, you have an opportunity to see something Craig and I would love to be able to see. And that is the Dead Sea Scrolls. Here. To tell you more about this is Melissa Geller. She's the chief marketing officer for the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute. Melissa, the warmest of welcomes. Now, the first thing I want to ask you is put together the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and why you would even have these artifacts in the first place.

That's a great question. It's a long way of saying I work for the foundation, but the foundation supports the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum. So the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition actually is on display inside the Reagan Museum.

That's a great question. It's a long way of saying I work for the foundation, but the foundation supports the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum. So the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition actually is on display inside the Reagan Museum.

Wow. That's what I thought. And if you've never gone, you should go particularly get on the airplane, sit in the office. It's absolutely fabulous. It's historic, and you need to see all of that. So tell me how the foundation came into possession for this?

Wow. That's what I thought. And if you've never gone, you should go particularly get on the airplane, sit in the office. It's absolutely fabulous. It's historic, and you need to see all of that. So tell me how the foundation came into possession for this?

Yeah. So since 2012, we've been bringing in really world class special exhibitions to the Reagan Library. It's a great way for us to grow our audience, reach new audiences, and be a resource for the community as something to see of real historical significance. And we've been very fortunate. Our last big exhibition was actually on Auschwitz. But we also have fun things like Star Wars and the Titanic. So back in 2018, when we heard the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition was going to come out, come back out to tour somewhere around 2020, 2021, we really jumped on the list. You know, in addition to just being such a historically significant exhibition, President Reagan himself had such a deep faith in Christianity, such a belief in God. He believed his life was spared during the assassination attempts to do something good with his life. And we knew that this exhibition needed to be at his presidential library. So when the EAA was finally ready to tour the exhibition in 2024, we jumped at the chance to be the first location for this new tour.

Yeah. So since 2012, we've been bringing in really world class special exhibitions to the Reagan Library. It's a great way for us to grow our audience, reach new audiences, and be a resource for the community as something to see of real historical significance. And we've been very fortunate. Our last big exhibition was actually on Auschwitz. But we also have fun things like Star Wars and the Titanic. So back in 2018, when we heard the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition was going to come out, come back out to tour somewhere around 2020, 2021, we really jumped on the list. You know, in addition to just being such a historically significant exhibition, President Reagan himself had such a deep faith in Christianity, such a belief in God. He believed his life was spared during the assassination attempts to do something good with his life. And we knew that this exhibition needed to be at his presidential library. So when the EAA was finally ready to tour the exhibition in 2024, we jumped at the chance to be the first location for this new tour.

Outstanding. I think he would be thrilled that it's being displayed at the Ronald Reagan Library and the Foundation. That's fabulous. So now that the AIA has released them, for them to be put on tour again is the foundation the first stop for the U.S. for the scrolls?

Outstanding. I think he would be thrilled that it's being displayed at the Ronald Reagan Library and the Foundation. That's fabulous. So now that the AIA has released them, for them to be put on tour again is the foundation the first stop for the U.S. for the scrolls?

We are. We're the first location for this new, maybe 4 or 5 city tour. And we are also the only location on the West Coast, so we're really proud of that. Wow.

We are. We're the first location for this new, maybe 4 or 5 city tour. And we are also the only location on the West Coast, so we're really proud of that. Wow.

I got to tell you, being in Washington, D.C., I'm thinking, hey, how come the Museum of the Bible didn't get the first crack on this? So kudos to you for getting the first display for this. I think that's fabulous.

I got to tell you, being in Washington, D.C., I'm thinking, hey, how come the Museum of the Bible didn't get the first crack on this? So kudos to you for getting the first display for this. I think that's fabulous.

We worked really hard at it.

We worked really hard at it.

I bet you did. And years ahead, which I think is absolutely fabulous. What's really cool is that it's not. Well, first of all, this is radio. So we have to paint on the canvas of the mind of our listeners. So I want to start first with the scrolls. And there's a whole bunch of other artifacts that are part of this, and I can't wait for you to tell us about that as well. But for the scrolls themselves, just a little background. When were they found? How were they found? Tell me the story of the young man who finds it in the cave. I mean, the story in and of itself is miraculous.

I bet you did. And years ahead, which I think is absolutely fabulous. What's really cool is that it's not. Well, first of all, this is radio. So we have to paint on the canvas of the mind of our listeners. So I want to start first with the scrolls. And there's a whole bunch of other artifacts that are part of this, and I can't wait for you to tell us about that as well. But for the scrolls themselves, just a little background. When were they found? How were they found? Tell me the story of the young man who finds it in the cave. I mean, the story in and of itself is miraculous.

Yeah, clearly, you know the story. It is just one of miraculous. What a great word. I mean, literally this in 1947, a teenager who was a sheepherder, um, um, you know, out in the Judean desert near the Qumran caves was literally out herding sheep and goats. And one of the animals gets loose into what goes into one of the caves. So he starts throwing rocks into the caves to try and lure the animal out. And he throws in a rock and he hears the shattering of a pot, and he follows the noise and is smart enough to realize that he has broken something with something very valuable Go inside and he reached out to authorities and in time they realized he had literally found the Dead Sea Scrolls 2000 year old manuscripts that had been hidden in these caves.

Yeah, clearly, you know the story. It is just one of miraculous. What a great word. I mean, literally this in 1947, a teenager who was a sheepherder, um, um, you know, out in the Judean desert near the Qumran caves was literally out herding sheep and goats. And one of the animals gets loose into what goes into one of the caves. So he starts throwing rocks into the caves to try and lure the animal out. And he throws in a rock and he hears the shattering of a pot, and he follows the noise and is smart enough to realize that he has broken something with something very valuable Go inside and he reached out to authorities and in time they realized he had literally found the Dead Sea Scrolls 2000 year old manuscripts that had been hidden in these caves.

Unbelievable. And does God not have a sense of humor? It's a shepherd boy that finds these scrolls. Don't miss that. Which I think is fabulous.

Unbelievable. And does God not have a sense of humor? It's a shepherd boy that finds these scrolls. Don't miss that. Which I think is fabulous.

And they were. And because they were in these really dry, arid desert caves and they were they were protected from the sun and the wind and the rain, they were preserved. And yes, many of the scrolls are just small fragments. Um, you know, damaged from, you know, over 2000 years of elements, but many of them are in good condition. And we're really fortunate that one of the scrolls we have is almost a full scroll. And it's from the Book of Psalms, and it's one of the Psalms. And in fact, they say that it's from the Book of Psalms, but wasn't published in the Book of Psalms. And it's actually David talking about why he was chosen. And he talks about how his brothers were more handsome and his brothers had better hair and all these different things. But yet he was chosen to spread God's word and we have that one on display.

And they were. And because they were in these really dry, arid desert caves and they were they were protected from the sun and the wind and the rain, they were preserved. And yes, many of the scrolls are just small fragments. Um, you know, damaged from, you know, over 2000 years of elements, but many of them are in good condition. And we're really fortunate that one of the scrolls we have is almost a full scroll. And it's from the Book of Psalms, and it's one of the Psalms. And in fact, they say that it's from the Book of Psalms, but wasn't published in the Book of Psalms. And it's actually David talking about why he was chosen. And he talks about how his brothers were more handsome and his brothers had better hair and all these different things. But yet he was chosen to spread God's word and we have that one on display.

Wow, that is absolutely stunning. So again, my first mind goes to and I love, by the way, Israeli antiquities. When I go, I always I love the fact a that the country is so judicious about saying it has to be authenticated. Craig and I have never purchased an antiquity without the certificate, knowing that it's been vetted and that they're not going to sell everything they've got. By the way, these are national treasures. They're global treasures, by the way, so we want to protect them. But when how does one transport like the Psalm scroll, knowing how old it is and it's able to be toured without having any, um, deprivation of what its quality as an antiquity.

Wow, that is absolutely stunning. So again, my first mind goes to and I love, by the way, Israeli antiquities. When I go, I always I love the fact a that the country is so judicious about saying it has to be authenticated. Craig and I have never purchased an antiquity without the certificate, knowing that it's been vetted and that they're not going to sell everything they've got. By the way, these are national treasures. They're global treasures, by the way, so we want to protect them. But when how does one transport like the Psalm scroll, knowing how old it is and it's able to be toured without having any, um, deprivation of what its quality as an antiquity.

So great question. So this exhibition will be here nine months, and then it will travel to about 3 or 4 other locations. Each scroll can only be on display for three months every five years. Wow. So although we have this exhibition for nine months, every three months they will bring us a new set of eight scrolls. So the Psalm scroll will never be on display again as part of this exhibition as it tours. Pretty remarkable. It travels in first class on an airplane in a very locked, environmentally secure, you know, museum quality box, um, hand carried through security and then stored in our facility or wherever, whichever museum it's going to. Wow.

So great question. So this exhibition will be here nine months, and then it will travel to about 3 or 4 other locations. Each scroll can only be on display for three months every five years. Wow. So although we have this exhibition for nine months, every three months they will bring us a new set of eight scrolls. So the Psalm scroll will never be on display again as part of this exhibition as it tours. Pretty remarkable. It travels in first class on an airplane in a very locked, environmentally secure, you know, museum quality box, um, hand carried through security and then stored in our facility or wherever, whichever museum it's going to. Wow.

Indiana Jones has nothing on this, by the way. This is just I love this kind of stuff. Now, there's a more elements to this, and I want you to know about it again. Anybody on my friends on the West Coast who are listening? If you're in that neck of the woods, make this a trip. And if you have children, they'll never forget this. We've got more with Melissa right after this. The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute, which is tied to the Ronald Reagan Library, is announcing it has a new exhibit called Dead Sea Scrolls, the exhibition. It opened November 22nd, and the exhibit will mark the Dead Sea Scrolls return to the U.S. for the first time in almost a decade and will celebrate the 75th anniversary of one of the most significant archaeological discoveries in modern history. Boy, you can't say that enough. What a thrilling treat for me personally to talk to Melissa Giller. She's the chief marketing officer for the Ronald Reagan Foundation, and I'm thrilled that you get to find out about this again. If you're headed anywhere in that neck of the woods in the next several months, you definitely want to put this on your to do list, because this is history. That is just one of the most significant archaeological finds ever. But if you love the Word of God, you definitely want to see this. One of the things that's also part of this. And Melissa, I've seen this, I've seen this in Israel. Craig and I lead tours there all the time. And that's the so-called Jesus boat. It's the Sea of Galilee boat. This is no small thing. How in the world is this packed up and moved to California?

Indiana Jones has nothing on this, by the way. This is just I love this kind of stuff. Now, there's a more elements to this, and I want you to know about it again. Anybody on my friends on the West Coast who are listening? If you're in that neck of the woods, make this a trip. And if you have children, they'll never forget this. We've got more with Melissa right after this. The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute, which is tied to the Ronald Reagan Library, is announcing it has a new exhibit called Dead Sea Scrolls, the exhibition. It opened November 22nd, and the exhibit will mark the Dead Sea Scrolls return to the U.S. for the first time in almost a decade and will celebrate the 75th anniversary of one of the most significant archaeological discoveries in modern history. Boy, you can't say that enough. What a thrilling treat for me personally to talk to Melissa Giller. She's the chief marketing officer for the Ronald Reagan Foundation, and I'm thrilled that you get to find out about this again. If you're headed anywhere in that neck of the woods in the next several months, you definitely want to put this on your to do list, because this is history. That is just one of the most significant archaeological finds ever. But if you love the Word of God, you definitely want to see this. One of the things that's also part of this. And Melissa, I've seen this, I've seen this in Israel. Craig and I lead tours there all the time. And that's the so-called Jesus boat. It's the Sea of Galilee boat. This is no small thing. How in the world is this packed up and moved to California?

Well, so.

Well, so.

Let me be clear what you saw. I can't even imagine. So magnificent. Not what we have. The actual boat is so fragile. Yes, it can't actually travel, as I'm sure you know. It took him 11 years to get it out of the water, and it took him ten years to dry it out so they can't travel it. So what they've done is they've taken fragments of the boat and fragments of the boat is what's traveling. Um, so we sort of have a setup where you see, um, a sort of replica recreation of what the boat might have looked like or did look like. And then the actual wood fragments of the boat are in a case.

Let me be clear what you saw. I can't even imagine. So magnificent. Not what we have. The actual boat is so fragile. Yes, it can't actually travel, as I'm sure you know. It took him 11 years to get it out of the water, and it took him ten years to dry it out so they can't travel it. So what they've done is they've taken fragments of the boat and fragments of the boat is what's traveling. Um, so we sort of have a setup where you see, um, a sort of replica recreation of what the boat might have looked like or did look like. And then the actual wood fragments of the boat are in a case.

Wow.

Wow.

How fabulous. Well, it hopefully it will get people excited enough to say, I want to see the rest of the boat. And you'll pack up and you'll go to Israel and see it for yourself.

How fabulous. Well, it hopefully it will get people excited enough to say, I want to see the rest of the boat. And you'll pack up and you'll go to Israel and see it for yourself.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

So let me talk about some of the other things that are there, because every one of these I would want to see. You've got some ossuaries. Explain to our friends what those are and why these are significant.

So let me talk about some of the other things that are there, because every one of these I would want to see. You've got some ossuaries. Explain to our friends what those are and why these are significant.

They're really significant because they are, um, stone boxes, I guess you could call them actually used to hold bones. And because in the Jewish faith and the need to be kosher and different things like that, they there was actually a cleansing process used before the bones would go in the ossuaries, and we have five of them on display.

They're really significant because they are, um, stone boxes, I guess you could call them actually used to hold bones. And because in the Jewish faith and the need to be kosher and different things like that, they there was actually a cleansing process used before the bones would go in the ossuaries, and we have five of them on display.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Unbelievable. And that's history in and of itself to see something like that. Um, talk to me about the shekels. I think this is absolutely fabulous.

Unbelievable. And that's history in and of itself to see something like that. Um, talk to me about the shekels. I think this is absolutely fabulous.

The shekels.

The shekels.

Are fabulous. We have a whole section in the exhibition about Pilgrimage Road. And pilgrimage road was the road in which the people would take about three times a year for different festivals and holidays, where they would make the trek to the Second Temple. And along the way was a marketplace. And so we have items in this section that were found in the excavation, but also found in this area where a bunch of bunch of shekels, because when you made it to the temple, you had to pay a half shekel as basically a tithe of of, you know, your respect of the money that you made to the temple. And they found some of these shekels on the way in Pilgrimage road, and we have them on display in our exhibition.

Are fabulous. We have a whole section in the exhibition about Pilgrimage Road. And pilgrimage road was the road in which the people would take about three times a year for different festivals and holidays, where they would make the trek to the Second Temple. And along the way was a marketplace. And so we have items in this section that were found in the excavation, but also found in this area where a bunch of bunch of shekels, because when you made it to the temple, you had to pay a half shekel as basically a tithe of of, you know, your respect of the money that you made to the temple. And they found some of these shekels on the way in Pilgrimage road, and we have them on display in our exhibition.

Unbelievable. And they were minted in tyre, right. Is that correct?

Unbelievable. And they were minted in tyre, right. Is that correct?

Yes, that's exactly correct.

Yes, that's exactly correct.

Wow.

Wow.

Wow. Just seeing again. This is not. This isn't. You know, I remember the first time I saw so many of these things in Israel, I would turn to Craig and I would say my husband and I would say, this isn't Disneyland. These aren't replications. These are the real things. And if that doesn't take your breath away, then then wake up. Oh, sleeper, as the scriptures say, because you need to recognize the fact that this is an affirmation of the history that we're taught in the Word of God. And this is history, which just confirms what we know to be true. So talk to me also about Masada, because every tour, every trip I've ever taken to Israel, I think we've gone up to Masada. And it's such a significant story of of courage, of sacrifice, of dedication. And you've got some objects from Masada. Talk to me about this.

Wow. Just seeing again. This is not. This isn't. You know, I remember the first time I saw so many of these things in Israel, I would turn to Craig and I would say my husband and I would say, this isn't Disneyland. These aren't replications. These are the real things. And if that doesn't take your breath away, then then wake up. Oh, sleeper, as the scriptures say, because you need to recognize the fact that this is an affirmation of the history that we're taught in the Word of God. And this is history, which just confirms what we know to be true. So talk to me also about Masada, because every tour, every trip I've ever taken to Israel, I think we've gone up to Masada. And it's such a significant story of of courage, of sacrifice, of dedication. And you've got some objects from Masada. Talk to me about this.

Well, you know, we have a couple of really historic objects in the Masada section, so, you know, it sounds like obviously, you know the story, but no one really knows if it was a massacre of the Romans upon the Jews or a mass suicide. And so there is a whole gallery, um, talking about Masada as well as, some items that were found in that area are on display. But to take you to a different region, and I'm not sure if you saw this in the release, but we also have the Magdala Stone. Yes, the Magdala Stone, not from Masada, um, but from a town called Magdalena or Magdala. Sorry, named for Mary Magdalene. But if you look at the stone, this stone has never left Israel. Um, it's never been anywhere other than Israel. Um, it's A2000 year old stone that they believed was used to hold, um, the Torah in the temple, and they believe it was in the city named after Mary Magdalene, of which the city that Jesus worshiped in. Wow. And it's the in on the stone is the oldest known carving of a seven branched menorah. And the stone is just this stunning piece of artwork. And as we tour people through the exhibition, it's one of the few items that I really see people stopping at and taking in as really like a marvel wonder.

Well, you know, we have a couple of really historic objects in the Masada section, so, you know, it sounds like obviously, you know the story, but no one really knows if it was a massacre of the Romans upon the Jews or a mass suicide. And so there is a whole gallery, um, talking about Masada as well as, some items that were found in that area are on display. But to take you to a different region, and I'm not sure if you saw this in the release, but we also have the Magdala Stone. Yes, the Magdala Stone, not from Masada, um, but from a town called Magdalena or Magdala. Sorry, named for Mary Magdalene. But if you look at the stone, this stone has never left Israel. Um, it's never been anywhere other than Israel. Um, it's A2000 year old stone that they believed was used to hold, um, the Torah in the temple, and they believe it was in the city named after Mary Magdalene, of which the city that Jesus worshiped in. Wow. And it's the in on the stone is the oldest known carving of a seven branched menorah. And the stone is just this stunning piece of artwork. And as we tour people through the exhibition, it's one of the few items that I really see people stopping at and taking in as really like a marvel wonder.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Unbelievable. So. Oh, there's so many questions I have for you, Melissa. First of all, when this exhibition does, because I so admire and respect the way Israel protects its antiquities. I mean, it's really they're they're so cognizant. In fact, I've talked to IDF officers who have told me that they'll have grids. And if they ever have to do bombing in an area, they go out of their way not only to minimize any human collateral, because that's the way IDF conducts itself. But if there's antiquities, they go out of their way to try to protect them as well. That's how seriously they take this. And, you know, when you stop and think about it, when people are when the rising tide of anti-Semitism is out there, you want to be able to say, wait a minute, we, the land was given to us. I gave you the book of Deuteronomy. And these artifacts affirm that as well. So it's important, I think, in a current day culture to understand why these replicas are so very important. But security so does the IAA have security travel with these pieces? I mean, how do you protect them? Because they're irreplaceable.

Unbelievable. So. Oh, there's so many questions I have for you, Melissa. First of all, when this exhibition does, because I so admire and respect the way Israel protects its antiquities. I mean, it's really they're they're so cognizant. In fact, I've talked to IDF officers who have told me that they'll have grids. And if they ever have to do bombing in an area, they go out of their way not only to minimize any human collateral, because that's the way IDF conducts itself. But if there's antiquities, they go out of their way to try to protect them as well. That's how seriously they take this. And, you know, when you stop and think about it, when people are when the rising tide of anti-Semitism is out there, you want to be able to say, wait a minute, we, the land was given to us. I gave you the book of Deuteronomy. And these artifacts affirm that as well. So it's important, I think, in a current day culture to understand why these replicas are so very important. But security so does the IAA have security travel with these pieces? I mean, how do you protect them? Because they're irreplaceable.

Right. So when the items travel, they're actually they travel with members of the EAA. However, when they arrive at your location, you have to have armed guards watching the trucks as they're offloaded and unloaded into your galleries. And then, because we are a government institution, we have high security in our museum. But as you said, so important for people to see these in a time of antisemitism.

Right. So when the items travel, they're actually they travel with members of the EAA. However, when they arrive at your location, you have to have armed guards watching the trucks as they're offloaded and unloaded into your galleries. And then, because we are a government institution, we have high security in our museum. But as you said, so important for people to see these in a time of antisemitism.

Absolutely, absolutely. Oh, Melissa, I have I've had goosebumps through this whole conversation. I am thrilled that you have them. Congratulations on procuring them for the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute and to any friends listening. And I've got a whole bunch of them on the western part of the United States. If you can possibly put this in your travel agenda for the next several months, you're really going to be wise to have made that choice. Melissa, thank you for a fabulous conversation, and congratulations on being able to show the artifacts back after this. How do you keep your finger on the pulse of America while listening to the heartbeat of God's Word? On in the market, we look for God's perspective on current events. Become a partial partner today and keep this Christ centered program on the air. As a benefit, you'll receive exclusive resources every week prepared just for you. You'll get behind the scenes Intel from my email to yours. Call 877 Janet, 58 or go online to in the market with Janet parshall.org. So let's talk about climate and energy. And we're going to have that conversation with Steve Gorham. Great to have him back on the program again. Executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America. He's the author of four books on energy, climate change and sustainable development, with over 100,000 copies in print. His latest book, and I've Got It linked on my website for your perusal, is called Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. And we're so glad that, Steve, you're with us again. So many things to talk about. Let me roll up my sleeves and dive in first to cop. We've just had Cop 29 and in Abidjan, first of all, for friends listening across the country who don't know, explain what cop is and then give me your assessment of what took place in Azerbaijan.

Absolutely, absolutely. Oh, Melissa, I have I've had goosebumps through this whole conversation. I am thrilled that you have them. Congratulations on procuring them for the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute and to any friends listening. And I've got a whole bunch of them on the western part of the United States. If you can possibly put this in your travel agenda for the next several months, you're really going to be wise to have made that choice. Melissa, thank you for a fabulous conversation, and congratulations on being able to show the artifacts back after this. How do you keep your finger on the pulse of America while listening to the heartbeat of God's Word? On in the market, we look for God's perspective on current events. Become a partial partner today and keep this Christ centered program on the air. As a benefit, you'll receive exclusive resources every week prepared just for you. You'll get behind the scenes Intel from my email to yours. Call 877 Janet, 58 or go online to in the market with Janet parshall.org. So let's talk about climate and energy. And we're going to have that conversation with Steve Gorham. Great to have him back on the program again. Executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America. He's the author of four books on energy, climate change and sustainable development, with over 100,000 copies in print. His latest book, and I've Got It linked on my website for your perusal, is called Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. And we're so glad that, Steve, you're with us again. So many things to talk about. Let me roll up my sleeves and dive in first to cop. We've just had Cop 29 and in Abidjan, first of all, for friends listening across the country who don't know, explain what cop is and then give me your assessment of what took place in Azerbaijan.

Hey, Janet, great to join you again. Yeah, we just last month they finished cop 29. Cop means conference of the parties. It's an annual United Nations climate conference. We've now had 29 of these. They started in 1995. This one was in Baku, Azerbaijan. And it's really the the height of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy, if you will. Across the world we had more than 60,000 people that that flew there either on commercial or private jets. So it's probably the biggest carbon dioxide emitting event of the of the year. And if you go to if you go to Baku, I haven't been there, but but pictures show that there are oil derricks out in the Caspian Sea and all around the city. And it was really, I think it was the first place in the world where oil was actually drilled for. It was a little bit earlier than even the United States, but it was it was a very rocky conference. There were two big issues. One was the amount of money that should be transferred from the United States and Europe and other wealthy nations to the developing nations, and the developing nations wanted to wanted about $1.3 trillion a year by 2035. They wanted that kind of a commitment. They finally settled, settled. And I put that in quotes on 300 billion a year. But the deal was announced 20 something like 30 hours late. And there were a lot there was a lot of dissension that actually the chairman didn't even recognize. So that was a big issue.

Hey, Janet, great to join you again. Yeah, we just last month they finished cop 29. Cop means conference of the parties. It's an annual United Nations climate conference. We've now had 29 of these. They started in 1995. This one was in Baku, Azerbaijan. And it's really the the height of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy, if you will. Across the world we had more than 60,000 people that that flew there either on commercial or private jets. So it's probably the biggest carbon dioxide emitting event of the of the year. And if you go to if you go to Baku, I haven't been there, but but pictures show that there are oil derricks out in the Caspian Sea and all around the city. And it was really, I think it was the first place in the world where oil was actually drilled for. It was a little bit earlier than even the United States, but it was it was a very rocky conference. There were two big issues. One was the amount of money that should be transferred from the United States and Europe and other wealthy nations to the developing nations, and the developing nations wanted to wanted about $1.3 trillion a year by 2035. They wanted that kind of a commitment. They finally settled, settled. And I put that in quotes on 300 billion a year. But the deal was announced 20 something like 30 hours late. And there were a lot there was a lot of dissension that actually the chairman didn't even recognize. So that was a big issue.

Well, can I just stop you there for a second? Just because this is why I'm so glad you started with this point, by the way, because these are Marxist ideology. We need to understand that. So this idea of and it's about moving resources predominantly from the northern to the southern hemisphere. So now they've settled on this figure of $300 billion. But my question is, why do they want to move the resources financially, and who are going to be the benefactors of this? And why do they think that money is the solution?

Well, can I just stop you there for a second? Just because this is why I'm so glad you started with this point, by the way, because these are Marxist ideology. We need to understand that. So this idea of and it's about moving resources predominantly from the northern to the southern hemisphere. So now they've settled on this figure of $300 billion. But my question is, why do they want to move the resources financially, and who are going to be the benefactors of this? And why do they think that money is the solution?

Well, that is very strange too. But yeah, the the well, it's for years the West. Europe and the United States have said we have a dangerous global warming and we've caused the problem. Our nations have caused the problem. And so all the and so all these conferences, the developing nations come and attend, and they want payments to them so that they can help grow and help, quote, fight against human caused climate change. And there are a lot of quotes. For example, I think the Panama delegation said that if they got all this money transferred, that we could we could halt climate change and a lot of other things. When, you know, climate is dominated by nature, not human. Humans are not in control of the Earth and the Earth's climate. But but nevertheless, that's what's going on.

Well, that is very strange too. But yeah, the the well, it's for years the West. Europe and the United States have said we have a dangerous global warming and we've caused the problem. Our nations have caused the problem. And so all the and so all these conferences, the developing nations come and attend, and they want payments to them so that they can help grow and help, quote, fight against human caused climate change. And there are a lot of quotes. For example, I think the Panama delegation said that if they got all this money transferred, that we could we could halt climate change and a lot of other things. When, you know, climate is dominated by nature, not human. Humans are not in control of the Earth and the Earth's climate. But but nevertheless, that's what's going on.

Wait, wait, you mean that 7.0 earthquake off the coast of San Francisco today that generated tsunami warnings? We can't control that now.

Wait, wait, you mean that 7.0 earthquake off the coast of San Francisco today that generated tsunami warnings? We can't control that now.

Just about everything now. Earthquakes and landslides and and all sorts of things are blamed on man made global warming. Um, and but anyway, so the other big issue was, uh, the idea that they need to get rid of coal, oil and natural gas hydrocarbon fuels. And it was agreed at Cop 28 a year ago that that was going to be a big push, but it was hardly mentioned this year. Uh, the host, Ilham Aliyev, the Azerbaijan president, the first day said oil and gas were a gift from God. And then OPEC backed him up. And so he had a big battle with a lot of, uh, between a lot of people. And then overall, we've had the the re-election of Donald Trump and second term. And this really casts a shadow over everything because Mr. Trump pulled us out of the Paris climate agreement in 2018. Uh, President Biden restored the United States to be part of that agreement. But, uh, Mr. Trump's going to pull it out again. So, uh, you know, everybody's looking at that and going, wow, what's going to happen with this? Is this going to stop all our climate efforts?

Just about everything now. Earthquakes and landslides and and all sorts of things are blamed on man made global warming. Um, and but anyway, so the other big issue was, uh, the idea that they need to get rid of coal, oil and natural gas hydrocarbon fuels. And it was agreed at Cop 28 a year ago that that was going to be a big push, but it was hardly mentioned this year. Uh, the host, Ilham Aliyev, the Azerbaijan president, the first day said oil and gas were a gift from God. And then OPEC backed him up. And so he had a big battle with a lot of, uh, between a lot of people. And then overall, we've had the the re-election of Donald Trump and second term. And this really casts a shadow over everything because Mr. Trump pulled us out of the Paris climate agreement in 2018. Uh, President Biden restored the United States to be part of that agreement. But, uh, Mr. Trump's going to pull it out again. So, uh, you know, everybody's looking at that and going, wow, what's going to happen with this? Is this going to stop all our climate efforts?

Well, and again, they need the United States desperately. But so many points that you've just made in the first topic we're discussing. Can I go back to the idea that Azerbaijan is in the business of drilling for oil? I thought an oil was anathema. The fossil fuels are the bane of the climate alarmist worldview. And so they picked a country like Azerbaijan to hold this. Why did they set it in an oil producing country?

Well, and again, they need the United States desperately. But so many points that you've just made in the first topic we're discussing. Can I go back to the idea that Azerbaijan is in the business of drilling for oil? I thought an oil was anathema. The fossil fuels are the bane of the climate alarmist worldview. And so they picked a country like Azerbaijan to hold this. Why did they set it in an oil producing country?

Yeah, I don't know why they did that in the last two were the other one was in, in in Qatar, I believe Abu Dhabi, Qatar last year. So it is a little bit strange. But you know, that really points out how fruitless these efforts have been. World energy consumption has increased, uh, by about 45% in the last 20 years. A global carbon dioxide emissions continue to rise. Also, they're up about 40% in the last two decades. And if you look at at at the world energy consumption, according to the International Energy Agency, in 2021, we still got 80% of the world, got 80% of its energy from coal, oil and gas, the same as in 1999. So these meetings really aren't doing anything except, you know, this idea that they can transfer a whole bunch of money to developing nations. And that's why a lot of these nations participate.

Yeah, I don't know why they did that in the last two were the other one was in, in in Qatar, I believe Abu Dhabi, Qatar last year. So it is a little bit strange. But you know, that really points out how fruitless these efforts have been. World energy consumption has increased, uh, by about 45% in the last 20 years. A global carbon dioxide emissions continue to rise. Also, they're up about 40% in the last two decades. And if you look at at at the world energy consumption, according to the International Energy Agency, in 2021, we still got 80% of the world, got 80% of its energy from coal, oil and gas, the same as in 1999. So these meetings really aren't doing anything except, you know, this idea that they can transfer a whole bunch of money to developing nations. And that's why a lot of these nations participate.

And then once we send them the money, of course, we're going to track it carefully to make sure it only goes for issues dealing with climate change. Correct?

And then once we send them the money, of course, we're going to track it carefully to make sure it only goes for issues dealing with climate change. Correct?

Yeah, it's it really is kind of goofy. And the other thing is we used to give foreign aid to nations under the foreign aid banner, but now those have been increasingly converted to be tied to climate goals. It's almost half of the aid that is going from from the United States to other nations now has to be tied to a climate goal. So it's really kind of a distortion of of the way things ought to be. but in any case, this is not going to have a measurable effect on global temperatures in any case.

Yeah, it's it really is kind of goofy. And the other thing is we used to give foreign aid to nations under the foreign aid banner, but now those have been increasingly converted to be tied to climate goals. It's almost half of the aid that is going from from the United States to other nations now has to be tied to a climate goal. So it's really kind of a distortion of of the way things ought to be. but in any case, this is not going to have a measurable effect on global temperatures in any case.

Yeah, exactly. And by the way, so when we talk about that money now and you astutely pointed out it isn't just a foreign aid package now it's with pinpoint specificity. We say this aid has to be done to rectify problems with the climate, allegedly. But that's one thing. And for the average person hearing that, it's like, oh, isn't that good? They're going to fix the climate. Well, no, what they're really going to do is destroy jobs and industry. And you're particularly talking about poverty in some of these countries, and you're going to make it even harder for our fellow man to make a living, not easier, all under the guise of protecting the planet. So let me see if I've got this right. This is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. So we're going to save the planet, but we're going to destroy the people who live on it, right?

Yeah, exactly. And by the way, so when we talk about that money now and you astutely pointed out it isn't just a foreign aid package now it's with pinpoint specificity. We say this aid has to be done to rectify problems with the climate, allegedly. But that's one thing. And for the average person hearing that, it's like, oh, isn't that good? They're going to fix the climate. Well, no, what they're really going to do is destroy jobs and industry. And you're particularly talking about poverty in some of these countries, and you're going to make it even harder for our fellow man to make a living, not easier, all under the guise of protecting the planet. So let me see if I've got this right. This is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. So we're going to save the planet, but we're going to destroy the people who live on it, right?

Well, that really seems to be the goal of much of this. Um, and I always want to quote Jacques. Jacques Cousteau, the famous oceanographer who said we should have no more than 1 billion people on the planet. So he wants to get rid of. He wanted to get rid of about 80% of the people that were living on the earth. And some people just are very radical in that point of view. But as we know, the Bible and teaches us that God wanted us to be fruitful and multiply and to and to cultivate the world, and that's that's what we should be doing.

Well, that really seems to be the goal of much of this. Um, and I always want to quote Jacques. Jacques Cousteau, the famous oceanographer who said we should have no more than 1 billion people on the planet. So he wants to get rid of. He wanted to get rid of about 80% of the people that were living on the earth. And some people just are very radical in that point of view. But as we know, the Bible and teaches us that God wanted us to be fruitful and multiply and to and to cultivate the world, and that's that's what we should be doing.

Amen. And, Steve, it's really about your first principles in your worldview. You can look at your fellow man as the great polluter, or you can look at him as the great potential for producing. And I think when you start that first step that really dictates your entire perspective on this problem. And by the way, it wasn't just Jacques Cousteau. Now you've got Bill gates, who's singing the same song, and you've got Jane Goodall singing the same song about the problem is Mankind. Well, if you don't start out by believing in human exceptionalism and you see, man is the problem, not as the solution that's going to dictate everything else you want to do. But I think the insidious part about this, and I'm so glad you and I have regular conversations because we're called to expose the deeds of darkness. It all sounds so good to say. I want to protect the climate and I want to protect the environment. Isn't that wonderful and good? But really and truly, it seems a lot more like we're going to have hegemony with a complete global entity that's going to dictate the lifestyles for people in other countries, which is anathema to Scripture. That's why national sovereignty is so important. And number two, there almost seems to be a religion. This reminds me of Romans chapter one, where we've juxtaposed our affections from the creator to the created, and somehow the created has greater ascendancy than the one who created us in the first place.

Amen. And, Steve, it's really about your first principles in your worldview. You can look at your fellow man as the great polluter, or you can look at him as the great potential for producing. And I think when you start that first step that really dictates your entire perspective on this problem. And by the way, it wasn't just Jacques Cousteau. Now you've got Bill gates, who's singing the same song, and you've got Jane Goodall singing the same song about the problem is Mankind. Well, if you don't start out by believing in human exceptionalism and you see, man is the problem, not as the solution that's going to dictate everything else you want to do. But I think the insidious part about this, and I'm so glad you and I have regular conversations because we're called to expose the deeds of darkness. It all sounds so good to say. I want to protect the climate and I want to protect the environment. Isn't that wonderful and good? But really and truly, it seems a lot more like we're going to have hegemony with a complete global entity that's going to dictate the lifestyles for people in other countries, which is anathema to Scripture. That's why national sovereignty is so important. And number two, there almost seems to be a religion. This reminds me of Romans chapter one, where we've juxtaposed our affections from the creator to the created, and somehow the created has greater ascendancy than the one who created us in the first place.

Yeah, I like to call it an ideology. I don't want to disparage religion with this, but it is. It is powerful. Many people believe it. There's a lot of good news, though, that people don't read about in the headlines. One of those is deforestation. We're still losing forests globally, but the rate of deforestation is declining every decade, according to the United States United Nations data. And by 2040 or 2050, we will probably not be growing forests around the world. We have about two thirds of the nations that have stable or growing forests. Another one is agriculture. The U.N. also has noted that the land for for cropland and pasture land has actually been declining globally since about the year 2000. For many, many years, we're using more and more land to to feed the population, but that is now declining. Farmers are actually giving more land back to nature. They're so productive. They don't need to use so much land. So there are a number of good trends that nobody really hears about. Yeah.

Yeah, I like to call it an ideology. I don't want to disparage religion with this, but it is. It is powerful. Many people believe it. There's a lot of good news, though, that people don't read about in the headlines. One of those is deforestation. We're still losing forests globally, but the rate of deforestation is declining every decade, according to the United States United Nations data. And by 2040 or 2050, we will probably not be growing forests around the world. We have about two thirds of the nations that have stable or growing forests. Another one is agriculture. The U.N. also has noted that the land for for cropland and pasture land has actually been declining globally since about the year 2000. For many, many years, we're using more and more land to to feed the population, but that is now declining. Farmers are actually giving more land back to nature. They're so productive. They don't need to use so much land. So there are a number of good trends that nobody really hears about. Yeah.

I'm so glad that we talked to you so we can hear about some of these things. I want to take a break, Steve, but when we come back, we know that the president elect is picking members of his cabinet, heads of various commissions that are extremely important. And as we say here in Washington, D.C., people are policy. So when we come back, I'd like for you to talk to me about who the president elect has chosen for his EPA administrator and also has his energy secretary. And what that means. You just talked about Cop 29 ending about a month ago. What does that mean? And you rightly, I think, identified where it will go under this new president elect when it comes to some of these issues about climate change. But the people who are put in positions that have a direct impact with the environment, climate and In energy. I want to know more about them and where they'll probably take us if they're confirmed to those positions. I'm so glad that Steve Gorham is with us. I want you to read his new book, by the way. It's called Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. It's a fabulous book, by the way. Steve is executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America. Back after this. Break. Steve Gorham is with us, executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America, the author of four books on energy, climate change and sustainable development. His latest book is entitled Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. I've got a link in my website for your perusal. Click on through so you can learn how to get your own copy. So much to talk about in this last segment, Steve. So again, let's talk about the two individuals that president elect Trump has chosen to head the EPA and the Department of Energy. Who are they?

I'm so glad that we talked to you so we can hear about some of these things. I want to take a break, Steve, but when we come back, we know that the president elect is picking members of his cabinet, heads of various commissions that are extremely important. And as we say here in Washington, D.C., people are policy. So when we come back, I'd like for you to talk to me about who the president elect has chosen for his EPA administrator and also has his energy secretary. And what that means. You just talked about Cop 29 ending about a month ago. What does that mean? And you rightly, I think, identified where it will go under this new president elect when it comes to some of these issues about climate change. But the people who are put in positions that have a direct impact with the environment, climate and In energy. I want to know more about them and where they'll probably take us if they're confirmed to those positions. I'm so glad that Steve Gorham is with us. I want you to read his new book, by the way. It's called Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. It's a fabulous book, by the way. Steve is executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America. Back after this. Break. Steve Gorham is with us, executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America, the author of four books on energy, climate change and sustainable development. His latest book is entitled Green Breakdown The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. I've got a link in my website for your perusal. Click on through so you can learn how to get your own copy. So much to talk about in this last segment, Steve. So again, let's talk about the two individuals that president elect Trump has chosen to head the EPA and the Department of Energy. Who are they?

Yeah. Well, Mr. Trump has done a much better job. He's learned from his first term. If you remember the first term, he didn't promote or, uh, pick cabinet folks until maybe February, March and into the next year. He's done all that already. And the two he has selected that could have big, big impacts on climate and energy policy are Lee Zeldin, uh, for the Environmental Protection Agency administrator, and Chris Wright as energy secretary. Uh, Lee Zeldin is a is a former um, representative, congressional representative from the state of New York. And he has said, quote, we will restore U.S. energy dominance, revitalize our auto industry, bring back American jobs, make the U.S. a global leader in AI. We'll do so while protecting access to clean air and water. But Mr. Zeldin is a a climate realist, if you will. He's skeptical of the theory of man made warming. And the EPA, just in the last year, has passed two big regulations has finalized them that are likely to be rolled back under Zeldin. The first is a regulation on power plant emissions, which would require coal plants and even natural gas plants to put in carbon dioxide capture and storage or be closed down. And we currently have 25 states that are that are suing to block this regulation. And so it's very possible that that either the EPA or maybe the the Department of Justice under Trump will not decide to defend this situation. And this would be struck down. The second big one is they passed a rule on automobile carbon dioxide emissions, which would force automakers, it's estimated by the EPA to ship 68% of of vehicles as electric vehicles by 2032. In other words, it would be very hard to start getting and using the traditional gasoline vehicles. So that's another one that could be struck down as well. And those would be big, big changes. And then there are others as well.