In the Market with Janet ParshallWhile the nation witnesses a truly demonic level of hatred being leveled against Jewish students on college campuses, why are some Christian schools offering public displays of support for Israel and the Jewish people? Hear from the president of Colorado Christian University, Eric Hogue, as he shares how CCU is not only making a stand for biblical Truth, but is swimming at cross-current in the culture. Don’t miss this fascinating conversation.
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The Palestinians and the Israelis negotiate.
This is not over.
Hi friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. Very happy Monday to you. Hope you had an absolutely fabulous weekend. And we're going to start. And actually we're going to go this entire hour by focusing in on Israel and the Jewish people. What do we say on this program with great regularity. You go through life, what with the newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other. And one of the reasons we talk about that little piece of real estate, about the size of new Jersey on a regular basis, is because that's really the northern star for prophecy. If you go through life, as I said before, with that Bible, you can look at what's going on in the world today, but you can read in the Bible God's position, which, after all, is Dwight Moody called it. That book is the straight stick of truth. You got to measure all the crooked ideas that are out there being bought and sold in the marketplace of ideas. So it's imperative that we understand what God's position is on the nation of Israel. That was in 1948, the stunning fulfillment of prophecy. We shouldn't have been surprised. God always keeps his word. But that was nothing more, nothing less, and every bit of fulfillment of prophecy. I'm also watching that piece of real estate very carefully, because it's going to play a profound role in the end times as well. How do I know that same book that's in the other hand, opposite the newspaper tells me so. But then we've got this idea that's being floated around. Bad ideas. By the way, this is why we talk so often about the wolves in the marketplace of ideas. These people wearing the clothes of shepherds. But they're ravenous wolves, as it says in Scripture. Who said that somehow, between Malachi and Matthew, God changed his mind. And it's not the Jewish people anymore, and they weren't the chosen people. And then add to that the cultural rise of anti-Semitism that makes me think I'm somewhere in the 1930s in Berlin, Germany. Never again was the cry heard round the globe after 6 million plus Jews were destroyed simply because they were Jewish. By the way, if you don't believe in spiritual warfare, I give you that. If it isn't Hitler, then it's Herod. If it's not Herod, it's Pharaoh. There's constant, constant, constant movement against the Jewish people. And the Church of Jesus Christ needs to stand up and say e nuff when it comes to anti-Semitism. In fact, more to the point, we should be having Christian colleges say this is a safe place for Jewish students. I'm getting ahead of myself. Let me go to the headlines because over the weekend, oh my word. If you've been to Israel, if you've ever gone on a tour, where do you land? Right? Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv. You get in the bus and then you usually start driving to Jerusalem. Do you know that the Houthis actually fired a missile on Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv over the weekend? Can you imagine being on a tour when that happened? Not a fill in the blanks here CBN news.
Listen, the security cabinet today unanimously approved the plan to expand the Gaza operation, providing for the conquering of Gaza and holding the territories.
The army has the plans ready to take over the Gaza Strip. And the government thinks this should be done. The question is the timing and how do you balance between the need to bring back the hostages on one hand and destroying Hamas on the other hand?
The announcement comes one day after a Houthi missile hit Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion airport. Netanyahu warned the Houthis and Iran they both bear responsibility for the attack.
We will not tolerate it. We will take very strong action against them, and we always remember that they act with their patron. Iran's direction and support.
On X Netanyahu reposted an earlier message by President Trump blaming Iran for Houthi attacks and added, President Trump is absolutely right. Attacks by the Houthis emanate from Iran. Israel will respond to the Houthi attack against our main airport and at a time and place of our choosing. To the Iranian terror masters, this is the main entrance into David Ben Gurion Airport. Just across the road, you can see where the Houthi missile hit from nearly 1400 miles away.
Whoa!
Social media lit up with footage of when the missile hit about 350 yards from the main airport terminal. After the strike, the Houthis announced a complete aerial blockade of Ben-Gurion airport.
The airport operations were completely halted for more than an hour. With this, the Yemeni armed forces reaffirmed their warning to all international airlines to cease flights to Ben-Gurion airport as it has become unsafe for air navigation.
The attack left passengers stranded after multiple airlines temporarily canceled their flights. It's uncertain when those flights will resume. Also this weekend, Iran unveiled a new missile it says can bypass the U.S. anti-ballistic defense system with ease and said American bases are their targets.
If we are attacked, if a war is imposed on us, we will give a powerful response. We will attack their interests, their bases, without any reservations or limitations.
Meanwhile, IDF Chief of Staff General Eyal Zamir announced they're calling up tens of thousands of reserves in order to defeat the terror group and bring the hostages home. Chris Mitchell, CBN news, Jerusalem.
Wow. So retired General Amir Avivi from the Israeli Defense and Security Forum told CBN news that the Army has the plans ready to take over the Gaza Strip. The government thinks this should be done. The question is the timing and how do you balance between the need to bring back the hostages on the one hand and destroying Hamas on the other hand? Now, these goals are not contradictory. These goals can be achieved. Both of them. Now, you also heard Chris reporting the intersection. And we talk about this over and over and over again, that you understand that since, well, forever, but particularly since October 7th, 2023, this is a proxy war with Iran, whether they're funding Hamas or Hezbollah in Lebanon or the Houthis. This is about Iran. Iran continues to build their nuclear capability. And the chutzpah, if I can use a Yiddish term, to fire a missile at Ben Gurion Airport at 100% civilians. That's on a military base by any stretch of the imagination. You understand that they're notching this up a little bit, which explains why, over the weekend, while you were tending your garden, the U.S. Navy has moved yet another warship near Iran. The U.S. Navy has deployed the SS Milius, an aegis guided missile destroyer, into the Middle East region within striking distance of Iran. Now, I'm telling you, you and I know. And don't tell me for one minute Iran doesn't know that the U.S. presence is picking up in Iran as well. Newsweek is now reporting the ship was redeployed from its previous posting in the western Pacific, where it was patrolling in a supporting role to the USS Carl Vinson, a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth recently ordered the USS Harry S Truman, another carrier, to stay put in the eastern Mediterranean to support action against Yemeni based, Iranian funded Houthi rebels. You see all the points of intersection here and now. 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As for your copy of The Mediterranean Sea Rules, when you give a gift of any amount to in the market, call 877. Janet 58. That's 877 Janet 58 or go to in the market with Janet Parshall. So we've seen this unbelievably marked uptick in anti-Semitism, which simply means hatred toward the Jewish people. There's nothing new under the sun, as the writer of Ecclesiastes so aptly said. So we see this attempted demonic, and that's what it is. If you don't see it put on those lens of scripture, okay? Because you and I look at the world differently, we look at the world through the lens of Scripture. This is a demonic attack. I don't know the whys or the ways of Satan, but I'm pretty sure that in his ridiculous way of looking at things evil that he is, he thinks if he can eradicate the Jewish people, it relieves the world of the mythology. He thinks of a Jewish Messiah. Try though he may, he will never succeed. But very often God's people go along with that idea. And I cannot believe how I've often heard, even in Christian camps, anti-Semitic remarks. And again, bad theology makes for bad living and bad understanding of the word. Did God change his mind between Malachi and Matthew? And were the Jewish people replaced with the church? I don't think so. And why in Colorado, at the Colorado Christian University, has there not been one single pro-Palestinian protest? And why is the institution encouraging robust debate within the confines of the classroom? What did I tell you? The antidote for speech you don't agree with is not censorship. It's more speech. And that's exactly the principle they take at CCU. I am very excited to talk about this, this, this conversation. And I'm so very glad that we have the opportunity to spend the rest of the hour with Eric Hogue, who was named president of Colorado Christian University by the board of trustees in March of 2023, took the office in 20 and June 2023. Previously, he had served as VP of University Advancement at the school. Strong affinity for Christian Higher Ed got his Masters of Arts in Theological Studies from Liberty University, Go Flames, and a Bachelor of Science in business admin from William Jessup University, and he knows something about helping to raise money for schools, but he also understands the world around him. He's got a background in media, he knows how to fundraise. But I'll tell you what else, Eric you've got. You've got a spinal column. And I just want to thank you on behalf of other Christians who share your worldview for not backing down, raising a moistened finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing and following suit. You have said no, and they've seen your actions all the way back in the Holy Land, where CCU gets a letter to Don Sweeting thanking CCU for their support of the Jewish people. Wow. And double wow. Tell me about that.
Well, quite amazing. And it's great to be with you, Janet, to talk about this most concerning and most important issue. Uh, as a matter of fact, uh, the chancellor, Don Sweeting, is flying back from Israel right now. He was at the airport taking off this morning when it was under attack. Uh, he texted me at 2:00 in the morning in a shelter. And, uh, so he is still in the air from his second trip in Israel. But, yes, Benjamin Netanyahu sent a note and recognize the stance that Colorado Christian University took on the days after October 7th, and the position we have on our mission, and how our students have stood up for the Judeo-Christian understanding. You know, I think you know, you you hit it off at the the top of the hour when you simply said that there's an element of truth. Um, you know, you have to stand for a a study of truth, a foundation of truth if you want to know truth. There's the ability to understand it. And I think at CCU, our students are well educated in the humanities, with the humanities were meant to be and in liberal arts and in Western civilization. And they understand the ally we have in Israel. And they also understand their, uh, evangelical Christian perspective coming from a Judeo-Christian relationship and from an Old Testament origin. And we can break it down momentarily. But that truth, that foundation produces very intelligent students.
Exactly. And it's all about worldview and ideas. Good ideas have good consequences. Bad ideas have bad consequences. So I really want to go back to this idea, and I want to break down everything you said, because first principles here are extremely important. But when I hear these and I don't want to say pro-Palestinian because they're anti-Semitic, okay. And I don't, and let's just break that down. Number one, I don't like the false hypothesis that has been created that says you're either pro Jews or you're pro-Palestinian, but you can't be both. As a follower of Jesus Christ, I subscribe to his worldview that he's not willing that any should perish. But the only way you're going to have lasting peace between those two people groups is through the Prince of Peace himself. We have to talk about the geopolitics and contextualize it into this as well. So when they're chanting from the river to the sea, Eric, the first thing that goes through my mind is wanton ignorance. You don't even know what that means. You don't know what River, you don't know what sea. And I bet you've never read the PLO charter, which to this day calls for the annihilation of the Jewish people. I thought you wanted social justice. That's the antithesis, is it not?
It is. You're exactly right. One place we can stand is we can stand against evil. You would think that the common Joe and Jane would do that. So Hoss is evil. It's a terrorist organization embedded in the territory that is occupied by the Palestinians. And if the Palestinians had a little bit of room, as some of them are beginning to do, they would stand up and say, could you just get Hamas out of here as well? We stand with that truth. We might want to stand to begin there. But the element is, uh, you know, sloganising things doesn't make it intelligence, as a matter of fact, might want to understand geography before you start talking about rivers and seas. Streams. Um, and that too is also needing to be taught in our classrooms, even K through 12. It is ridiculous statement that you're going to stand on the side of evil because you things, you believe things, believe things, and geopolitics. Not to be fair, you know, this this argument of I stand against this principle of the Jewish state because it's not fair. The Palestinians, well, let's just talk about history a little bit and talk about what fairness really means or what it means in the context of understanding politics. One is a state, the other one is a territory. One has a Western civilization economy, the other does not. One fights against terrorism and evil. The other one is embedded with it. Let's just begin there and put that on the Ivy schools campuses and begin a conversation. You do that and you're shouted down because common sense turns into common nonsense in our higher education institutions in this country.
Yeah. Well said. Beautifully said. So let me just go to some of the slogans. Okay. And basically, I find it interesting that when some of the media outlets will stop these protesters and ask them to break down what they believe and what their concerns are, they're gobsmacked. They know it's a talking point. It's a it's a pre-printed placard that they carry to an event. Oftentimes, by the way, let the record reflect, Your Honor. These are paid protesters, but they don't even understand what you just you gave us a Cliff's Notes on the history and the territory and the governance. Hamas, by the way, is a terrorist organization. And if you look at Fatah, uh, you know, people do not have free elections in Gaza, by the way. They lived in abject poverty. Have you been there? I've been there, by the way. I've come under gunfire in Gaza. There is absolutely a heartbreaking condition. That's what happens when you're led by terrorists. By the way, I told you, I remember walking around with a member of the IDF, and he talked about the notebook that Yasser Arafat would contain in his pocket book. And in it he had all of the bank accounts in Switzerland, where all the U.S. aid was put, not to the people, to the terrorists back after this. We're spending the hour with Eric Hogue, who is the president of Colorado Christian University. And not only is a wonderful president, but he is unwavering as the captain of the ship at CCU and his commitment to the Jewish people and to the nation of Israel. And understanding as a Christian organization, that linkage just simply cannot be broken. And so at CCU they do not have on campus protests by any stretch of the imagination. But they do have robust debate. And I think that's Socratic approach toward learning is brilliant. You can break down mythology, you can deal with biases, and it's just something about the truth. You know, as John Adams once said, facts are stubborn things. And once you get those facts, boy, it just has a way of opening your eyes. It's one of the reasons why I'm always encouraging you to take a trip to Israel. Mark Twain said that travel is the best classroom. Go to Israel and you'll understand. The mythology promulgated by the BBC and the New York Times is nothing but indoctrination. See it for yourself. Eric. I remember sitting in a session in the Knesset, looking down, seeing an Arab member voting and making a proposal. And I thought, you don't have the equivalent in the Palestinian territories by any stretch of the imagination. So there's there's just so much mythology to break down. Let me go to the protests. I don't I a couple of things. My personal biases. I'll put them out there. I don't think they're organic. I think there's backdoor funding when they all show up at the same signs. It wasn't because they met at John's garage, and they all went on a Saturday afternoon and made those signs, somebody pre-printed all that stuff. And then you wonder, who is fomenting this? Where is this coming from? Now the Bible tells me to get wisdom, tells me to be as wise as a serpent and innocent as a dove. So aside from the fact that they're cutting class and that our propensity, given our sin nature, is to be nasty rather than to be Christ like, so all of that gets mixed in this cauldron that's percolating on college campuses. But what is it they hope to gain? Their biggest thing is stop the genocide, stop the aid, stop the apartheid. All of this is ignorant, ignorant, ignorant. They don't understand part of that triune relationship at all. But where do you think this animus is coming from?
Well, I agree with you that it's spiritual warfare. I mean, you have to start there and pause for a moment, uh, if indeed we can. And we collectively, as a culture and as a generation can call the Jews such fill in the blank and dispute their, uh, their history. Then, in essence, we're we're attacking 70% of the Holy Bible, and we are going at the core of origins. We're going, going at the core of Yahweh's specific revelation. And the covenant that leads to the new covenant. Erode all of that, and play that down to the dredges of protest or angst or even hate. And what you do is you turn God's specific revelation on its head, or you deny it, and you get lies that are truth about truths that are lied about. So I think that's the start. He is the enemy and he is a liar. Janet, we know to be true. He hates God's creation. He hates the imago day. And the imago day started in this land under that covenant with the Specific revelation of Yahweh through the prophets, through the Hebrew children. So he hates, he wants us to hate, and so that his hate can be complete and a generation's hate against God himself. That's the beginning. The other side of this is is an America that has been I mean, it's it's as if we we buy the lowest common denominator of intellect, and then we raise it to the highest privilege of position in our lives. These protests are simply amazing to listen to. If it would have been 911 back in 2001, the whole country was against terrorism. Nobody brought up geopolitics until later. Geopolitics leads after October 7th because it was embedded with a faculty that had an agenda. They changed the humanities, they changed liberal arts, and they denied truth and they led with wise. And you do that for 30, 35 years. Do a pretty good job of turning out a generation that no longer wants to identify with Israel.
Exactly. To that end, you wrote a stellar piece that was published in World magazine at the beginning of this year called Educated or Indoctrinated. And the subtitle says secular professors lean left and so do their students. So you're held captive in a classroom. No one knows this better than you. You're the president of CCU, so you're held in the classroom. You're under the tutelage of a teacher. You know that. You've got to spit back predominantly what the professor has taught you, or you're not going to get the passing grade. That's important to get the degree. It's important to get into grad school. So we see how the machinery works. But and if you decide to push back, if you decide to say, excuse me, but but I but that's not what the facts are. Excuse me, but I respectfully disagree. The student will often say, well, that's going to cost me my grade. I can't do that. And so they're sitting there like little sparrows being fed this toxic worm on a regular basis that really foments their animus. So, you know, I'm a firstborn. I'm a y person. So then it makes you wonder, how did they get in the teaching positions in the first place, to be so inundated in their animus that this is the platform they choose to take in the classroom? I'm stunned at the professors at the Ivy League schools that have come in support of these anti-Semitic rants. I'm stunned at the college presidents. I've watched them here when they come to Washington, D.C. on Capitol Hill and basically moved to the left and the right and not answer questions about dealing with anti-Semitism. And yet, these are the same people who will talk about social justice and Dei and all of the other blather of wokeness. And when it comes to putting shoe leather into it, not hating your Jewish students, they're in absentia. So I guess my question is, initially these schools, when you think of the Princetons, the Harvards, the Yale that started out at Christian universities, when you leave that biblical worldview, the reason that you were established was to build men as preachers of the word. And now all of a sudden you've got these indoctrinators. Is it just because these are the people who grew up in the 60s, and these are the residual ideas that they decided to harvest and grow.
Yes, in many ways. But they're also beholden to something that gives them the position without any consequence. It's called tenure. Tenure. They can do no wrong. They can offer their agenda and call it a curriculum and teach it all day long. They're bulletproof. They know.
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Absolutely. That's such an excellent point. Eric Hogue is with us. He is the current president of Colorado Christian University. By the way, the New York Post, of all things, profiled the fact that there were Christian schools that are inviting Jewish students to come to their campus where they could be safe. And you can read that letter. I've got it posted on my information page. This is a this is a winnowing wheat shaft, okay. Those who stand for truth and those who are being led away back after this. How do you keep your finger on the pulse of America while listening to the heartbeat of God's Word? On in the market, we look for God's perspective on current events. Become a partial partner today and keep this Christ centered program on the air. As a benefit, you'll receive exclusive resources every week prepared just for you. You'll get behind the scenes Intel from my email to yours. Call 877 Janet, 58 or go online to In the market with Janet Parshall.
John Adams to Thomas Jefferson. I quote, I will insist that Hebrews have done more to civilize man than any other nation on God's earth. End quote. Theodore Roosevelt quote. There can be no peace worth having unless the Jews are given control of Palestine. End quote. Harry S Truman I had faith in Israel before it was established. I have faith in it now. It has a glorious future before it, not just another sovereign nation, but as an embodiment of great ideals of our civilization. End quote. John F Kennedy quote. Let us make it clear that we will never turn our backs on our steadfast friends in Israel, whose adherence to the democratic way must be admired by all friends of freedom, end quote. Ronald Reagan quote. The people of Israel and America are historic partners in the global quest for human dignity and freedom. We will always, always remain at each other's side.
Well, that is Eric Hogue, president of Colorado Christian University, reminding us with facts, by the way, just facts, madam, that in fact, this is a country that has never turned its back on the Jewish people. And when the nation of Israel was established, has not turned our back. As of this date. Thank you, Lord, on the nation of Israel. My personal theory is the sun set on the British Empire, when Britain and its Commonwealth turned its back on Israel. And the rest, as they say, is history. By the way, quick word as we continue our conversation with Eric. There was an article that showed up in the New York Post in March of this year. It details a 16 page underground manual. This is what Eric and I were just talking about, that these there might be some organic participants that just decide to cut class and decide to join in on the free for all going on on the college campus. But these are paid actors, and you need to stop and consider who is the puppet master behind these puppets who couldn't tell you? As I said before, when they're chanting from the river to the sea, what river and what sea? And these are criminal anarchists. So at Columbia they were told to inflict, and I quote, maximum damage. And out of the booklet, this is what you read. Smashing stuff can also be very quick to do with an efficient sledgehammer in your hand. You can do a lot of damage. By the way, smashing windows only takes 1 or 2 swings, but air conditioning units, cameras and other external equipment can sabotage the profits of your target even further. Even using sledgehammers can get some safety gloves. You don't want to get cut, and you don't want to leave your blood on the site either. To avoid being tracked down. You think these people are just doing this spontaneously? Concrete can be used to fill up the pipes, and when it dries, your target will be in for a messy surprise. Fire extinguishers can be repurposed and refilled with blood red paint, so when it's sprayed it can make a big splash. Some key slogans you can use are Free Palestine and War Criminals. And if you're up to it and know the site back to front, then breaking into your target and damaging the contents inside is obviously a very effective tactic. Face covering is key. People of great commitment, aren't they? Cash is king when buying equipment, whether it's spray paint or sledgehammers. Don't leave a paper or digital trail. You know where this is never going to happen at Colorado Christian University. In fact, more to the point, after the horrible demonic attack on October 7th, 2023, CCU actually held a prayer vigil in December. Eric, not only did you pray, you helped raise money for the victims of October 7th. Talk to me about that.
Well, after October 7th, uh, many of our students and our student Senate, as well as, um, our faculty, uh, and leadership, uh, simply said, we have to do something. So we had a dinner, a kosher dinner. So we had to go outside of our, our catering and bring in a kosher caterer. Had a kosher, Sure. Uh, dinner prepared in the Great Hall on campus there in December, about 280 people were invited from local synagogues, rabbis, all of the constituency that wanted to attend. Majority of the people that were in the Great Hall were not a part of CCU, but they were a part of the community. We gave them the microphone, the stage. That's the sound bite you played. That was a greeting for them in, uh, at the dinner that night on campus. Afterward, we couldn't fit many students in, but afterward, a student prayer vigil for them. They left the hall, went outside with candles. Our students prayed for Israel and prayed for their synagogues and their families and relatives. Uh, facing the terrorism tears, Janet hugs. Uh, gratitude. Uh, I think I received 25 letters, some handwritten, some in cards. Just saying thank you, thank you. And and ultimately that night, we raised $1 million for ambulance and health care relief on the ground from Colorado Christian University. To this day, I am invited to synagogue events all across town just outside of Denver and the Metro, as if to say, you're a part of us, this Judeo-Christian thing, this relationship that means something to us as it means something to you. It was amazing.
Wow. Absolutely stunning. And Eric, it's so effective on so many levels. Number one, it was the right thing to do because a a follower of Christ needs to do this, right. We need to the Jew first and then the Gentile. You and I have been grafted on. This is the root of Jesse. I will bless those who bless them, curse those who curse them. We could go on and on and on and on. But also, what a wonderful way to show the love of the Jewish Messiah to our Jewish friends. So, and as you say, you're still invited to this day, so you're building these relationships. You know, Netanyahu knows not by accident, because he's seen it over and over and over again. The strongest supporters of the nation of Israel and of nation of Israel happens to be the evangelical community. It's imperative we never stop that.
You're exactly right. I have 4 or 5 Jewish community leaders who simply say this. You're our only friends, America. Now, the evangelical church, the evangelical church, and this university. You're the only friends we have to turn to at a time like this. That's why our chancellor doctor flying back, you know, under under attack. Just hours ago in Israel, still in the air, flying back. He was invited to Israel for ten days. He and his wife, our students go there every year for archaeological digs. They go to museums, they study the history. So there's a relationship here. And. And it's a relationship that is tight, that is intentional and is eternal in many ways. And so, um, from from your quote in reference to where we need to start first and how we continue that evidence God's blessing has fallen upon the relationship between evangelical Christians at Colorado Christian University and the Jewish community here, just outside of Denver.
Wow. Amen and amen. You said also, if you were to take out the Jews goodbye to 70% of the Bible. Can I just say my $0.02 worth? It's stunning. I am very grateful for those Bible institutions that keep Jewish studies in place. I don't know how you teach the scriptures without having a Jewish studies program, so thank you for underscoring that 70%. It's also a way of rooting out any seeds of anti-Semitism that might get planted in young hearts and minds who are going with the flow culturally and don't understand what the distinctive is here. And so that's part of the issue, too, when you have this robust dialogue in the classroom. Eric, how do you allow for this dialogue? Because part of it is education. I mean, obviously, you're going to tear down the mythology that some of these kids come to class with. But why do you allow it in the classroom? And what sorts of stories can you report right from the front lines in the classroom when you have these conversations.
Well, critical thinking number one. I mean, that's part of the liberal arts critical thinking. How should you think? How do you critically think? How do you disagree? Or how do you come to a conclusion where I cannot understand? But we're in a dialogue where I'm gaining some understanding of what you're trying to tell me. This, this element of coming together in in the academy where one is pressed to achieve the example for every evangelical Christian listening right now, is that we believe that God's Word is inspired, inerrant and infallible, right? Yes. So anything that attacks that core has to start in the Old Testament. If it does erode core, then the specific revelation of God, God's holy Word, is now tainted. So we start there in a classroom. Every one of our students have to take an Old Testament and a New Testament course. And we start in the Old Testament and we say God inspired. It is inerrant, infallible, and it reveals who Yahweh is. This is me, I am Yahweh. Monotheistic. And we start there. If that's not true, then he is not a God. He's one of many, right? Critical thinking begins, well, it can't be true because even though I'm nominal as a young believer in the Christian church, that can't be true, because that doesn't work critically. Because he is the only God. He is the way, the truth and the life. So says his son. So then you gravitate to the plane of truth, and you build upon that foundation going forward. That's what happens in Christ centered university education, and that's how we teach the Holy Word of God in a covenant start.
Amen. And one of the residuals of that of which there are many, I believe, is that this this very dangerous idea that's crept into some churches in this country that between Malachi and Matthew, God has changed his mind. If you're thinking critically, if you're reading scripturally, you cannot by any stretch of the imagination arrive at that conclusion. Am I right or wrong?
You're exactly right. You're spot on. I mean, the Old Covenant has now delivered the New covenant, and Jesus even said himself, I'm not changing no jot and tittle. This is the fulfillment. This is what my father has spoken of from years ago. That's why I am the I am. So there is no change. There is a continuance. And by the way, there still is a continuance, uh, as evangelical believers, and we're in the midst of hoping for that continuance. So it is it is a, a a continuance of education, a continuance of God's hand and his revelation in our lives. Janet, you're absolutely, positively right.
Well, let me take a break, Eric. I have so much to talk to you about. And I rue the fact that this hour is going far too quickly. Let me just do a round robin on a couple of things. Just general questions. Because if we don't have the privilege of sitting in a classroom at CCU and getting taught to think critically and biblically, which, by the way, Your Honor, let the record reflect those are not mutually exclusive positions. It's not an either or. It is a both and. And CCU is a perfect example of that kind of training, by the way. But some of the bad ideas that those who have graduated from college or are an older generation have picked up some of the bad ideas because they don't have a concretized biblical worldview, because they haven't been immersed in getting good Christian education and what the word has to say. So we'll do some of those questions when we return. Eric Hogue is with us. He's the president of Colorado Christian University, by the way. That is an award winning school. Uh, there's all kinds of metrics out there on exactly how excellently CCU is doing. I encourage you to learn more. So check out also the letter that showed up in the New York Post regarding Christian colleges inviting Jewish students to their safe campuses. Now, that's an example and a witness to the world back after this. Eric Hogue is with us. He is the president of Colorado Christian University. And for the record, CCU was named as one of America's Best Colleges by The Wall Street Journal. So, see, I wasn't making that up before. So, Eric, let me, if I can, to the individuals who don't have the privilege of sitting in the classroom at CCU and getting this rigorous worldview, biblical worldview along with academic excellence, these are questions that are out there in the marketplace of ideas. And I want you to help me walk through some of them. So what about Christians who say, well, they're not accepting Jesus. So therefore I don't need to pray for the Jewish people. I don't see them as chosen. I don't see anything different from the Jewish people than any other people group out there, because they have rejected Jesus. So therefore I wash my hands. How do we respond?
Well, number one, they ought to talk to about four of our graduates who are Messianic Jews who, uh, actually did not know Jesus when they were young and gave their life to Jesus. and now they are leading both in their careers. Two nurses and a lawyer, and one as a pastor of a messianic synagogue. The issue is it does matter that God chose them. It does. It does matter. It does matter that a holy God makes a choice. Okay. It matters. And it matters that he worked through them. And it matters that he brought his son through the line of David, and through that line of David and through that tribe. Jesus is our Savior and our Lord. All of that matters. It's not happenstance. There's orchestration, sovereign orchestration. So, number one, that matters. So if it matters, you need to see it. Study why it matters. And then when you study why it matters, who is who is trying to speak to. Where is revelation coming from and for what purpose? And that purpose would be Jesus, by the way, was a Jew. So that conclusion would it would it would compel you to give it some really good study and really good attention.
Mhm. Excellent. What about the fact that some people say, well, Israel is a markedly secular nation and it's nothing like the Israel we talked about in the Old Testament or we read about in history. It's a completely in fact, to that point. I'm not proud of this fact, but facts are important. If you look at a travel guide for the LGBTQ community, they'll tell you one of the great places to go if you're traveling the world for a vacation is to Tel Aviv. Yeah. And they have marches in the streets of Tel Aviv. Like we've got them here in Washington, D.C. so some would say, oh, they rejected God. Therefore I don't have to support Israel. Well, I got up this morning here in Washington, DC. I'm not sure we're doing so good here in the United States. Just my $0.02.
Well, I disagree with a lot of what the Israeli government may choose to do. Right? I disagree with a lot of what our government chooses to do. Uh, we're not saying that everybody is perfect. We're not saying that, uh, the the Israel government or a geopolitics gets a pass. Well, we are saying is that God's involvement is actual factual. And so the same way that our country, we believe one nation under God has God's hand in the midst of it. And you can't deny the fact that when this country was established, there was a hearkening to the Abrahamic covenant and understanding how we would consider justice and law and how the Supreme Court would work, looking for truth and doing it in a way that would be a profit statement, that we would be about justice. So we're not saying that everything that the, uh, politics of the country here or there is, is absolutely, positively what we believe to be righteous. What we are saying is that God's involvement, his revelation, is and it's worthy of our attention.
Exactly. You know, Eric, I've often said he could have used the picks the Normans, the Saxons, the Celts. He chose the Jews. His ways are not our ways. His thoughts are far above mine. I'm not going to argue with him, but I am going to recognize that he has used the Jewish people in a very powerful place in human history. If you've got an argument with that, you can take it up with the Lord when you see him face to face. In the meantime, the directive is to bless them who have blessed us over and over again, and he will curse those who curse them. Which takes me to another point. I grow weary of hearing these unsubstantiated declarations that are guttural utterances. They are not predicated on any truth whatsoever. But to say that Israel is a group of, quote, war criminals. I'm not a fan of the International Criminal Court by any stretch of the imagination. That's why I love national sovereignty, thank you very much. But constantly we see Netanyahu and the Israeli government being charged and taken up before the International Criminal Court. Or the second thing, not understanding world history is that Israel is in a, quote, apartheid nation. There is zero comparison between South Africa and what's going on in Israel. So again, if you don't study to show yourselves approved unto God, you're going to be sucked into the vortex of that cultural communication, but you're going to be led far afield from what are facts. So talk to me about how we break those arguments down.
Well, it sounds a lot like, uh, liberal ideology and ideology in the church that goes after Joshua in God's, uh, delivering in the land. Um, you know, ultimately a sovereign god, uh, wiping out a nation and moving protecting another nation or group of people in people have a rough time with it. And so, uh, last time I checked, uh, he sovereign and creator and can do whatever he wants to as a holy God against evil. Um, as it relates to this lump sum categorizing of people, um, in, I'll say it's just not it's not intellectual. We don't like it when it happens to us. And and we definitely don't like it when it happens to our country. Yet we we are free swingers in offering it around the world because of our own prejudices. And I must say, there are arguments made from ignorance that are based on prejudice that do not have the distilled wisdom of an education toward truth. And those four stages are very important to understand where you stand in today's culture for the glory of God.
Amen and amen. Eric, in a conversation that has gone by far too quickly, I would be remiss if I didn't say, okay, so I'm not a student at CCU and I'm not on a visit to Israel anytime soon, but I feel that I should be doing something to the people who are listening to our conversation now, all across the country. What does the follower of Christ do at this moment? As we said, you know, here's a missile being shot at Ben Gurion. Any person within the sound of my voice who has ever traveled to Israel, that's your port of entry into the country. So now you can see how close this is hitting. So what do we do? We can't call the State Department. We don't serve in the Pentagon. But yet there's a role we should play. What is that?
Number one pray. Pray for the peace of Israel. We're told to do that. Pray for the revelation of what God would have us to study and understand in the Old Testament, and pray that Jesus would give you opportunities to be a light and love in the midst of the tension for the glory of his name. Janet.
Um, Amen and amen. Eric. Thank you. What a wonderfully memorable conversation. I hope we have swept away the cobwebs of sloppy thinking, replaced it with clear biblical thinking, critical thinking, and that you will help to speak up for the nation of Israel. You will speak against anti-Semitic remarks wherever and whenever they occur, and we will be very grateful again, that salvation came by way of the Jews. It is inarguable. Thank you, God, for the role that the Jewish people have played and for our Jewish Messiah. Eric, thank you for a great conversation. Thank you friends. I'll see you next time on In the Market with Janet Parshall.
