Andy calls up The Atlantic's Ed Yong, who won the 2021 Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of the pandemic, to talk about how we got where we are now and where we need to go next. They cover what went wrong up to this point, why we can't think of vaccines as a panacea, and what Ed thinks about giving people in the US booster shots before many people around the world get their first dose. Plus, Andy weighs in on President Biden’s vaccinate-or-test requirements.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Watch President Biden’s remarks on his plan to stop the Delta variant and boost COVID-19 vaccinations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB1Awuu_DGc 
• Check out Andy on 60 Minutes Australia: https://youtu.be/_q_jyJrA8H8
• Read all of Ed’s writing in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/ed-yong/
• The Atlantic has compiled all their COVID-19 coverage, including the pieces Ed mentions in today’s episode, here: https://www.theatlantic.com/projects/our-essential-coronavirus-coverage/
• Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 
• Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

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