In Black And White: Jen Kelly, war, citizen military forces, Gary McKay,

Jen talks to Gary McKay who at 19 enlisted in the citizen military forces for six years, and ended up in Vietnam.

19-year-old Gary McKay was determined to avoid being sent to Vietnam, so he enlisted in the Citizen Military Forces for six years instead. But as fate would have it, Gary wound up in Vietnam anyway and earned a Military Cross for extraordinary bravery under fire. He tells his amazing story.


Learn more about Gary's book at:
https://livinghistorytv.com and http://garymckay.com.au/

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19-year-old Gary McKay was determined to avoid being sent to Vietnam, so he enlisted in the Citizen Military Forces for six years instead. But as fate would have it, Gary wound up in Vietnam anyway and earned a Military Cross for extraordinary bravery under fire. He tells his amazing story.
 Learn more about Gary's book at: <a href="https://livinghistorytv.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://livinghistorytv.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1658979626210000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3VIkTMjhFntBj9JKMhnK3-">https://livinghistorytv.com</a> and <a href="http://garymckay.com.au/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://garymckay.com.au/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1658979626210000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0Qt4Qoyoaf8wKDkmPTxmLA">http://garymckay.com.au/</a> Like the show? Go to <a href="https://heraldsun.ccom.au/ibaw" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://heraldsun.ccom.au/ibaw&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1658979626210000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1I64u3FAwurfrNPLKDdHI9">https://heraldsun.ccom.au/ibaw</a> for more

From alleyway gangsters to cold war spies to eccentric entrepreneurs, Australian history is full of colourful but forgotten characters. Host Jen Kelly talks with experts, historians and yarn spinners to uncover the untold stories of some of our most interesting and offbeat ancestors. 

From alleyway gangsters to cold war spies to eccentric entrepreneurs, Australian history is full of colourful but forgotten characters. Host Jen Kelly talks with experts, historians and yarn spinners to uncover the untold stories of some of our most interesting and offbeat ancestors.

A podcast miniseries about Melbourne's forgotten characters. Presented by the Herald Sun

In Black and White

Host Jen Kelly talks with experts and historians to uncover the untold stories of some of our most interesting and offbeat ancestors.

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In Black and White: George Augustus Robinson

WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. When George Augustus Robinson was employed as the Chief Protector of Tasmania's Aboriginal people, he proclaimed he was there to 'do good' for the indigenous population. Instead, he took from the very people who had already had everything taken from them. Cassandra Pybus joins the show with more.

WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. When George Augustus Robinson was employed as the Chief Protector of Tasmania's Aboriginal people, he proclaimed he was there to 'do good' for the indigenous population. Instead, he took from the very people who had already had everything taken from them. Cassandra Pybus joins the show with more.

Note: This episode contains graphic descriptions relating to the deaths of indigenous people.

Learn more about Pybus's book, A Very Secret Trade: The dark story of gentlemen collectors in Tasmania, at https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/books/9781761066344

WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. When George Augustus Robinson was employed as the Chief Protector of Tasmania's Aboriginal people, he proclaimed he was there to 'do good' for the indigenous population. Instead, he took from the very people who had already had everything taken from them. Cassandra Pybus joins the show with more.
Note: This episode contains graphic descriptions relating to the deaths of indigenous people.
Learn more about Pybus's book, A Very Secret Trade: The dark story of gentlemen collectors in Tasmania, at <a href="https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/books/9781761066344" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/books/9781761066344&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1715646351398000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3yrr_Aut2nmJ5GtMW4S1Qf">https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/books/9781761066344</a>

A macabre act of betrayal

In Black and White podcast: the most unpopular commander during World War I

The story of the most unpopular commander during World War I

He was dubbed the most unpopular AIF commander of World War I, thanks to a series of bungles and mismanagement. But was James McCay mad, bad, or just another hapless officer caught in the slaughter of the trenches? Military historian Mat McLachlan joins the show to discuss.

More on Mat's work at: https://battlefields.com.au/
Like the show? Go to heraldsun.com.au/ibaw for more 

He was dubbed the most unpopular AIF commander of World War I, thanks to a series of bungles and mismanagement. But was James McCay mad, bad, or just another hapless officer caught in the slaughter of the trenches? Military historian Mat McLachlan joins the show to discuss. More on Mat's work at: <a href="https://battlefields.com.au/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://battlefields.com.au/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1715045148433000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3iMuJTAN40sTae7ytOxpDl">https://battlefields.com.au/</a> Like the show? Go to <a href="http://heraldsun.com.au/ibaw" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://heraldsun.com.au/ibaw&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1715045148433000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1sgQenAy9M9GtuYE7jNg_0">heraldsun.com.au/ibaw</a> for more

The Butcher of Fromelles

In Black and White podcast: William Shum who showed modern Australians how to dress themselves

The story of William Shum who showed modern Australians how to dress themselves

Before TV, social media and the internet, Australians turned to magazines to help define their style.And for 43 years William Shum was one of the titans of print who showed modern Australians how to dress themselves - and the places they lived.Now his granddaughter, author Sue Walker, joins the show to recount his colourful life.

More about the book here.

Like the show? Get features, backgrounders and more at heraldsun.com.au/ibaw

Before TV, social media and the internet, Australians turned to magazines to help define their style.And for 43 years William Shum was one of the titans of print who showed modern Australians how to dress themselves - and the places they lived.Now his granddaughter, author Sue Walker, joins the show to recount his colourful life. More about the book <a href="https://www.jeffreysbooks.com.au/p/untold-story-of-william-shum-editor-of-australian-home-beautiful-1926-1946?barcode=9780947349691&amp;selected_category=21118">here.</a> <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffreysbooks.com.au/p/untold-story-of-william-shum-editor-of-australian-home-beautiful-1926-1946?barcode=9780947349691&amp;selected_category=21118__;!!F0Stn7g!E_pLBUQqNfqK4B768JTFXASAFyc6VBVwStosbF2_diEoW6UMyqjdxQLk1nT8y4dQWfdJiU2IMck-kdjNnEVhP3l4-Q$" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffreysbooks.com.au/p/untold-story-of-william-shum-editor-of-australian-home-beautiful-1926-1946?barcode%3D9780947349691%26selected_category%3D21118__;!!F0Stn7g!E_pLBUQqNfqK4B768JTFXASAFyc6VBVwStosbF2_diEoW6UMyqjdxQLk1nT8y4dQWfdJiU2IMck-kdjNnEVhP3l4-Q$&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1714440485867000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3fNr75BNnQ-d2PyV2bNhhg"></a>
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