What if the monster under the bed is more afraid of you than you are of him?

That's the question Kristin and Montell Jordan asked their son one night — and it became the seed for their new children's book, *Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed*.

In this episode, Ben sits down with the Jordans to talk about:
• Why fear left unattended in childhood often becomes trauma in adulthood
• How 32 years of marriage, ministry, and music shaped their approach to raising brave kids
• Montell's journey as a two-time prostate cancer survivor — and what early detection made possible
• Kristin's role as caregiver, and how vulnerability protects intimacy
• Why humility is the doorway to inviting God into your hardest seasons
• The difference between spending time with your kids and investing in them

September is Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. If you're a man over 40 — or you love one — this conversation matters.

Grab the book, share this with a friend who needs it, and subscribe for more honest conversations on faith, family, and doing hard things together.

Timestamps
00:57 Meet Montell and Kristin Jordan
01:33 The story behind Shiloh
04:57 Flipping fear into empathy
09:14 Why fear was the first lesson
13:02 Montell's cancer journey
15:46 Doing hard things together
17:34 Inviting God into the scariest moments
21:49 Faith woven into a good story
28:08 From heathen to marriage ministry
34:27 Investing time with the next generation
36:50 Prostate cancer: early detection saves lives
42:29 Final cries to God

What if the monster under the bed is more afraid of you than you are of him?
That's the question Kristin and Montell Jordan asked their son one night &mdash; and it became the seed for their new children's book, *Shiloh and the Not-So-Scary Girl Above His Bed*.
In this episode, Ben sits down with the Jordans to talk about: &bull; Why fear left unattended in childhood often becomes trauma in adulthood &bull; How 32 years of marriage, ministry, and music shaped their approach to raising brave kids &bull; Montell's journey as a two-time prostate cancer survivor &mdash; and what early detection made possible &bull; Kristin's role as caregiver, and how vulnerability protects intimacy &bull; Why humility is the doorway to inviting God into your hardest seasons &bull; The difference between spending time with your kids and investing in them
September is Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. If you're a man over 40 &mdash; or you love one &mdash; this conversation matters.
Grab the book, share this with a friend who needs it, and subscribe for more honest conversations on faith, family, and doing hard things together.
Timestamps 00:57 Meet Montell and Kristin Jordan 01:33 The story behind Shiloh 04:57 Flipping fear into empathy 09:14 Why fear was the first lesson 13:02 Montell's cancer journey 15:46 Doing hard things together 17:34 Inviting God into the scariest moments 21:49 Faith woven into a good story 28:08 From heathen to marriage ministry 34:27 Investing time with the next generation 36:50 Prostate cancer: early detection saves lives 42:29 Final cries to God

We’re all looking for something.

 

In If You Can Hear Me, Ben Higgins sits down with people from all walks of life—celebrities, thinkers, everyday folks—to talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope.

 

These are honest conversations about the big stuff: identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith, and everything in between. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out.

 

If you’ve ever felt like there must be more to the story—this show is for you.

We&rsquo;re all looking for something.
&nbsp;
In If You Can Hear Me, Ben Higgins sits down with people from all walks of life&mdash;celebrities, thinkers, everyday folks&mdash;to talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope.
&nbsp;
These are honest conversations about the big stuff: identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith, and everything in between. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out.
&nbsp;
If you&rsquo;ve ever felt like there must be more to the story&mdash;this show is for you.

If You Can Hear Me

Why Montell and Kristin Jordan Traded Platinum Records for Prayer and Picture Books

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