EP 1,218 - CONCRETE vs. CORNFIELDS: THE RIVALRY OF KNICKS vs. PACERS/BEATING BOSTON IS PLEASURE/MISSING MY SHOW BUT SEEING GAME 6

Published May 20, 2025, 4:29 AM

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And then there was nineteen ninety five, which was a painful, painful, painful, painful series seven games, nineteen ninety five Eastern Conference Finals. The window had opened up. Michael Jordan retired. Patrick Ewing gets the ball.

Top of the key, one step, two step, finger.

Roll, It rolls around, It rolls around, It rolls around, It rolls around, and it bounces off.

And I'll tell you something.

When the Knicks lost to the Indiana Pacers in nineteen ninety five at the Garden Game seven, a little piece of my Knicks fandom died. I was rewatching highlights from that game and remembering the horror, the horror of that layup not going in by our guy, our warrior, Patrick, you and get rolling out. And this is before cell phones, this is before the internet. But it played on a loop around New York, New York one ESPN. In my head, in my heart, in my head, we were discussing it. We were talking about it. How could that lay up? That finger roll by Patrick? You were not going Why didn't you dunk it?

Patrick? We don't blame Patrick.

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Jalen Brown talks about what it really feels like to lose in a series to the New York Knicks, and now it's time to bring on Reggie Miller, Dale, Davis Antonio, Davis, Rick Smith's, Mark Jackson, Bobby Knight, Steve Offford, and the miserable much hated Indiana Pacers. Oh yeah, the Knicks. The Indiana Pacers are in the Eastern Conference Final. I'm talking about it all on a high flying, brand new banging The Iron Reports Stereo Pocket is coming up right now, Miles, Jeorge A. K.

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The Iron Rappaport ceial podcasts here, BIGINNI Boom, have no fear. The I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast is in the place to be. Welcome to the Iron Dome of Disruption. Welcome to the Ziggety Zone of Disruption. The name is Michael Rappaport aka the Inflamed Ashkenazi aka the Sultan of Sniff, aka the Gringo man Dingo aka the Raging Bullshit or I hope everybody's feeling real good. Hope everybody's feeling real safe. Hope everybody is feeling really sane. Iron Rapport Stereo pocket is coming live and direct from New York City. Oh yeah, Nueve, York, the home of the Eastern Conference Finals, which is going down this week. I'm gonna get to that soon. New York City, greatest city in the world, especially this time of the year. The weather's fantastic. The leaves are coming in, the cherry blossoms or cherry.

But I don't know.

There's some kind of something at the Box Tree something. I was in Central Park this morning on one of my I need to start doing tours walk and Talk tours with me Michael Rapport through Central Park. Beautiful time of year. I walked at a high pace this morning. I wonder, just walking do anything for you? I jogged for about four to five minutes, but mostly was walking. I broke a sweat. Does walking really do anything for you? You see these studies walking does this? Walking does that? If you do it at this pace, if you do it at that sort of a clip, walking with joy does something for me. I felt fantastic walking through Central Park today. Anyway, I'm Rapport Stereal podcast. I want to give a shout out to the people that came to see me perform this weekend in Albany and in Connecticut. I was in Connecticut, had a great show in Manchester, Connecticut, and then I had Saturday night. I was supposed to be there Friday night. I had two great shows. Saturday night, I had a big, big mistake. Big mistake me, mister New York does not know the geographical makeup.

Of the state of New York.

I was performing in Albany, which I learned is only two and a half hours away from New York City by car. Albany is two and a half hours from Manhattan by car three if you're in traffic. Obviously traffic could do anything but two hours thirty five forty minutes. My dumb ass decided, for some reason, without checking, to book a flight to Albany. So Friday morning, I get to Laguandia, and despite the fact that it's just a flight to Albany, I always wund up getting to the airport early. I believe my flight was at eleven forty. I got to the airport at ten. So I'm sitting around, I'm getting my coffee, I'm on my computer, I'm lollygagging, I'm chilling. I'm hanging out at the airport. About half an hour before the flight, they go, oh, your flight's pushed to one ten Like, all right, it's not bad. Sucks, but it's not bad. So you know, I get up, I move around, I do this, I do that. Pop up bap ba bah get a arnold palmer, have a little salad. I say, I'm gonna eat early instead of eating in Albany. Bop up, bop up bob. Then they go, oh, your flight's been pushed to three something. Oh, okay, this is a pain in the ass, but things could be worse. Things could be worse. At this point, I've been at the airport for about three hours, but things can be worse. Even my wife said, you're handling.

This pretty good. I go, yeah, things could actually be a lot a lot worse. Bop up up up boh, bop up, bup bup bo. I'm in the airport, I'm walking around. I tell you something.

People in the airport when you see a big celebrity like me, and you sneak a photo of me. This happened three times in three hours at Laguadia, in the Delta, in the Delta gates, three times, people picking up their phone and sneaking pictures of me. I'm like, yo, you might as just ask I see you, because now you've got a picture of me looking into your phone, like, what the fuck are you taking the picture of I see you sneak taking the picture. Just ask for the picture. I'll smile, I'll look directly into the camera. And it's always dudes like, just say what's up, Mike rap? Just say what's up, Mike crap? So I could give you a handsome, smiley picture. We chit chat and we talk about whatever. I don't understand why people when they see a big star like myself, they try to sneak pick pictures of me. Anyway, at this point, like I said, I've been in the airport three hours. Then my flight gets pushed again to five forty, and I'm like, all right, well now we're pushing it because my show was starting early. But I look, they say, if you get in it's six forty, you can make it. You know, I could probably make it to the club, you know, seven fifteen.

Bop up, bah bah bah.

Maybe the show starts a little late, Pop up up, Papa. I'm sitting around getting a little nervous. I call my agent, start to call the club in Albany, the Funny Moone in Albany, Great Club.

Great.

People hate being late, do not like being late for anything, certainly don't want to be late for a show that people have paid their hard earned money to come see me perform at in Albany. Next thing, you know, they go, boom, your flight's at six forty. I go, oh, motherfucker, motherfucker. So now I'm like, I'm gonna miss my show. I'm gonna miss my show. So I call the club. I go, this is what happened. I was at the airport. Dota da da da. They're a little slow to get back to me.

I call my agent. I'm at the airport, Da da da. I'm scurrying around.

I never even think to check in the weeks leading up to my show in Albany or the day of maybe I just drive up there, or maybe I take a train or a bus. It didn't even cross my mind anyway. At around five o'clock, I go, I'm just gonna go home. I have to cancel my fucking show and I'm gonna go home. So I get into cab, go home. Tell the club, I'm so sorry. The flight was canceled, it was delayed.

It was da da da da da. It was this.

I'm not gonna make it. And they're like, you could just drive, and I go, what do you mean? So I look on ways it goes it's only three hours and thirty three minutes away. But at this point I'm all the way in Queens. I'm at Laguadia. I won't make it there untill eight thirty. The show starts at seven. I'm just like, this is fucked and it's my fault and I have to eat it. And I go, there's no way and there's Ubers, and I start checking Ubers, and no Ubers will take me to Albany, and it's just as a mess.

Anyway, I had to cancel my Friday night show.

Oh, because mister New York does not know the geographical nature of the state of New York.

I do now.

I do now because the next day after I had to cancel my Friday night show. And again, if there's anybody watching, listen to the Iron Rapport stereo podcast. I sincerely apologize about having to cancel my Friday night show in Albany, but I did make it up there bright and early Saturday for my two kickass great shows in Albany. I have a couple of shows coming up in Baltimore. I'll be in Baltimore June fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth at the Port Michael Rappaport at the Port in Baltimore. Michael Rapaport at the Port in Baltimore. Tickets are available at Michael Rapportcomedy dot com. The only good thing about me missing my show Friday night in Albany, and I mean this sincerely because again I don't scoff at missing work. I don't scoff at being late. I don't play around with people's times, people's honey. The only good thing is that I was able to make it back to my apartment and watch game six, Game six right Knicks and six. It didn't go to Game seven Boston. I was able to watch Game six of the Knicks versus the Boston Celtics in my apartment alone. My wife wasn't there, and I watched the Knicks decimate the Boston Celtics.

And it felt really good.

Watching the Knicks decimate the Boston Celtics. And I don't care that the great Jason Tatum and we wish you a speedy recovery. I don't care that he wasn't there for Game six. We had one game five before his terrible injury, and again we want him to be back. I never want wish injury on any opponents. The Knicks beat the shit, I mean, they beat the dog doodoo out of the Boston Celtics in Game six and ruin them. And it was glorious. And I said before the Knicks and the Celtics, this is not a long term rivalry.

It is more about Boston, New York.

It's more about the Red Sox, the Yankees, the Red Sox, the Mets, the Bruins, the Rangers, the Bruins, the Islanders. I'll even go the Bruins and the New Jersey Devils. It's more about Peyton Manning. It's more more about Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, the Patriots and the Giants. It's about Boston. It's about New York. But Jalen Brown, the star, the star of the Boston Celtics, who played very, very well, especially in Game five. But it wasn't enough, was it.

Jylen Brown.

I say that with all due respect, I like you heard, this guy's like a borderline genius. He's like a you know, astrophysicist and all that stuff. Great player, competitive, smart, he said after the game.

And this is a well thought out young man. This is Jalen Brown.

This is a smart, well thought out, well spoken genius. This guy's a genius. They said, he's literally like an astro physicist. He could be flying rocket chips or you know, doing like computers and all this stuff. He said, and I quote, losing to the New York Knicks feels like a death. And I'm glad you said that, Jalen Brown. I'm glad you said that. Losing to the New York Knicks feels like a death. It should feel like a death. It should feel horrible that the Knicks beats you. It should feel horrible anytime New York beats any Boston team.

It is like a death.

Whether you want to admit it or not. It's not like a thousand cuts. It's not like a punch in the face. It's not like a gut punch.

It's a death. The Knicks beat the Celtics, We beat the shit out of you.

And I'm glad you had the the courage and the Honies and the basketballs to admit what it felt like.

Jaylen Brown.

You said it, not my words. You said, losing to the Knicks feels like a death. It didn't feel like a death to me. It didn't feel like a death. To New York Nick fans.

It felt good. It felt really good.

Your pain, Jaylen Brown, and I say this with all due respect, was our pleasure. Your pain, Peyton Pritchard, sixth Man of the Year was our pleasure. Al Horford, Joe Missoula, Derek White, Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, Danny Ainge, Robert Parrish, the late Great Red Rback and the rest of you. It felt fantastic, toss, But I hope it stung you. Boston, I hope it stung you. Mark Wahlberg, I hope it stung you. Donny Walberg. I hope it stun you. Ronnie, Bobby Ricky and Mike, Johnny Gill and all a new edition. I hope it hurt and it still hurts. It didn't hurt us.

It felt good. It felt real good. Oh yeah.

Podcast.

And now we have the.

Eastern Conference Finals of twenty twenty five, and this is exactly the way it should be. The New York Knickerbockers, who I affectionately call the New York nerder Bockers because they are nerds, hard nosed, tough basketball nerds. They stick together, they play together, They appreciate, they understand what it means to put on a New York Nick jersey. And I'm sure some of you haters are going, what does it mean, Mike? They haven't won a championship since nineteen seventy three. I know that we all know that, but it's beyond championships. It is the city game, New York, Madison Square Garden, it is the mecca.

I didn't make it up.

I wasn't the person who said Madison Square Garden is the mecca, but it is in fact the mecca. You can argue, you could debate all you want, but all you gotta do is google Wikipedia. The mecca Madison Square Garden will show up, whether you like it or not.

But this is.

Deep, deep seated, real resentment, disdain. I don't even want to use the word hate. It's a disdain. The New York Knicks and the Boston Celtics, that's not a basketball rivalry. Boston and New York is a sports rivalry. The New York Knicks and the Indiana Pacers, that is a basketball rivalry. It's a long, long, heated, much discussed. There has been documentaries made about it, there has been books written about it. There's memes made. There's good guys, there's bad guys. There's history. There's Reggie Miller, there's Spike Lee. But even before that, Indiana thinks they invented basketball. The state of Indiana loves basketball. It's like the way Texas thinks about high school football and college football and professional football. That's what Indiana thinks about basketball.

Hoosiers.

Gene Hackman, the late great Gene Hackman, Steve Alford, Larry Joe Byrd, Oscar Robertson, John Wooden, Coach John Wooden, the Great Bobby Knight, Indiana State, the Hick from French, Lick, the pass, the jump shot. They're like, oh, we play the right way, we make the pass, we play fundamentals, we play the right way. We're Indiana Basketball. Yay Hoosiers. This ain't a movie.

This is reality. This ain't a movie. This is reality. Okay.

Barnes and bounce passes versus concrete, concrete versus the cornfields.

No blood, no foul, you shoot jump shots. We wiggle, wiggle wiggle.

New York City is the home the origins of the point God, Damon in Bailey, Pearl Washington, Larry Joe Bird, Bernard King. When you see Larry Joe Byrd, ask him about Bernard King, doctor j Kareem abdul Jabbar from New York.

Indiana's a great basketball state, but it ain't New York.

But in the nineties, when you think about the rivalry the Knicks and the Pacers, and like I said, there's been yo. Go to ESPN watch this documentary called Winning Time. Get yourself focused, get yourself prepared. It's one of the first thirty for thirties winning time. It's all about the Knicks and the Pacers, the Pacers and the Knicks, and we duked it out ninety three. We duked it out. Knicks first, the Pacers, first round, the Knicks one three to one. Ninety four Conference Finals. The Knicks won four games, two three. Things got murky after that. Things got real murky after that. And then there was nineteen ninety five, which was a painful, painful, painful, painful series seven games, nineteen ninety five Eastern Conference Finals. The window had opened up. Michael Jordan retired. Patrick Ewing gets the ball top of the key, one step, two step, finger roll, It rolls around, It rolls around, It rolls around, It rolls around, and then.

It bounces off. And I'll tell you something.

When the Knicks lost to the Indiana Pacers in nineteen ninety five at the Garden Game seven, a little piece of my Knicks fandom died. I was rewatching highlights from that game and remembering the horror, the horror of that layup not going in by our guy, our warrior, Patrick Youing, it rolling out, And this is before cell phones.

This is before the Internet.

But it played on a loop around New York, New York one ESPN. In my head, in my heart, in my head, we were discussing it. We were talking about it. How could that lay up? That finger roll by Patrick? You were not going Why didn't you dunk? Get Patrick? We don't blame Patrick, but I will say when I was thinking about the Knicks vers the Pacers in nineteen ninety five Game seven, After that loss, I went from being a young fan who grew up watching Ray Williams, Bill Cartwright, Marvin Webster, Michael Ray Richardson aka Sugar Ray Richardson, Trent Tucker, Larry or Banister and so forth and so on, to when we got John Starks, Charles Oakley, of course, Patrick Ewing and so forth and so on. But that loss in nineteen ninety five took me from being a young fan with you know, hope and aspirations of the Knicks winning the championship. It took me into man fanhood. My youth was stripped away. I lost something that night when the Knicks lost in Game seven and nineteen ninety five.

It was painful.

It was It was a really really painful thing because as good as the Knicks did going forward, and the Knicks won the Eastern Conference Finals in ninety nine.

Of course we never got over the hump. We lost in the finals. Again.

I just knew that the Knicks were not gonna win a championship. I just knew that the Patrick Ewing Knicks were not gonna win a championship in nineteen ninety five when Patrick missed that finger, and again I don't blame Patrick, I just I was like, it's just not gonna happen. I couldn't deal with the pain. We had been so close yet so far. But the Knicks and the Indiana Pacers, and those Indiana Pacers teams with Reggie fucking Miller, snaggletooth Reggie Miller, funny faced, funny looking Reggie Miller, Vern Fleming, and then of course they got them Davis Boys Antonio and Dale, Derek McKee, Rick Smith's, and then they acquired Mark Jackson, our guy, the Indiana Pacers. You made me hate my guy, Mark Jackson. I hated Mark Jackson when he was on the Pacers. All of New York did. That's our guy, Mark Jackson is our guy. Saint John's Rookie of the Year from a New York Nick and then somehow somewhere you acquired him in Indie. He shaved his head, he started shimmying. Mark Jackson started shimmying, and he made me sick. Those teams made me sick, Austin Kroscher, all those teams made me six Those nineteen ninety Indiana Pacers teams made me sick. And we went three and three, three series to the Pacers, three series to the Knicks. And Reggie pushed us, and we pushed him, and he put on a show in the garden. He taunted and haunted John Starks. But Reggie Miller, John Starks, Charles Oakley, Derek Harper, Glenn doc Rivers, Anthony Mason, the late great Anthony Mason, we haunted and taunted you. To Reggie Miller, you had some great knights in New York, but we also had some great knights in Indiana, and we had some great knights at your expense. And you never got over the hump. We never got over the hump by Humpy the Regi Miller, the Knicks never got over the hump.

Neither did you.

And I recently saw Reggie Miller on an interview talking about what it was like going against the Knicks and then going against the Bulls, and then going against the Lakers and Kobe and Shaq. And he said, he replays the games over and over and over and over and over.

And they said, do you have to watch him? He goes, I don't have to watch them. I replay them over and over and over and over and over and over.

Reggie Miller is haunted and I love it. I realized when I was watching The Last Dance when it came on during the pandemic, which seems like so long ago. Man, the Pandemic seems like so long ago. But when that Last Dance came on along with Tiger King, there was a few other ski pole moments of TV and popular culture during the pandemic. But when the Last Dance came on and Reggie Miller was talking about his duels with Michael Jordan, and he he was not scared of Michael Jordan, and he brought it to Michael Jordan. But you also never got over that hump, did you. Michael Jordan owned you, Regi Miller, and you you pushed him. You had some great moments, you physically pushed them. You made some great shots, but you never got over that hump, and I'm glad I wouldn't have it any other way. Regi Miller, Regi Miller, your pain is my pleasure. Your pain is New York's pleasure.

Huh huh.

Podcast.

I realized watching the Last Dance.

Thirty years later, twenty something years later, twenty something years later, after the Knicks and the Pacers were duking it out in those great games during the nineties, those great series during the nineties, I realized during the Last Dance, when Reggie Miller's snaggletooth face popped up on the screen, that Reggie Miller is my single.

Least favorite athlete of all time.

Nothing personal, It's not personal. I'm sure Reggie Miller is a great guy personally. I don't want to get to know him personally because I enjoy hating Reggie Miller as an Indiana Pacer. I enjoy hating Reggie Miller as an antagonist in the NBA.

And I saw Reggie Miller. I told you this story before.

I saw Regie Miller a couple of years after he retired in New York in a restaurant I can't remember where, or at a party or at a pre party at a restaurant or.

Something, and he said to me, you're done talk and shit and I said, yeah, yeah, I am. And he shook my hand, gave me five, tapped it up, blah blah blah blah blah. But I realized, Regie Miller, that was fake. At the time, it felt real, but it was fake.

Because as the dust and the time goes on, and I think about the Pacers, the Knicks, the Knicks, the Pacers, and the rivalry and the dirtiness and the taunting and the headbutting and the provoking and the antagonizing you did.

To the New York Knicks, I don't have to like you, inspect you. I don't have to like you.

And I know that so many New York fans of my age, because the younger ones that are out there in the garden and they're great, screaming and yelling, climbing up things, climbing to the tops of buildings, tiktoking, dancing, doing it. The great young Nick fans. They can't appreciate how much their fathers and the older Nick fans in New York really don't like you. Rick Schmid's you made me hate Chris Mullen Byron Scott. Larry Bird was coaching Isaiah Thomas. I couldn't stand you. The Roy Hibbert era of the Indiana Pacers, the Paul George era of the Indiana Pacers. And now we got Tye Tye Halliburton, fly Tye Halliburton, and you beat us last year in Game seven because we fell apart. Og had a hammy. I mean, I was at Game seven last year when the Knicks literally I almost went on the court that you guys need you need a fresh body out there, because we fell apart at the scenes. The New York Knicks fell apart at the scenes, and of course the Pacers won Game seven in the Garden, and it was it was hard to swallow. It was it was hard to swallow. It's hard watching the Knicks lose. It's hard watching the Knicks loose Game seven. It's hard watching the Knicks loose Game seven at the Garden. But it was even harder that it was first the Indiana Pacers, the disgusting, much hated Indiana Pacers, and their fans hate us too, and they're nasty. I was there nineteen ninety nine Conference finals. I was at a game in Indiana. I was with Spike Lee. I'm surprised I made it out alive. These are sick, rabid, crazy fans in Indiana, scary people. I was at that game. I think it was Game three in Indiana. We flew in and we flew out. You couldn't get a hotel room.

We'd still do.

Who knows what we'd still be missing in action if we had gotten hotel rooms in Indiana. They were mean, They were nasty, yelling, evil little fuckers out there in Indiana. But this is what it's all about, NBA basketball, and it's gonna be great. It's gonna be a great series. It's gonna be about matchups. It's gonna be about ty Resee, it's gonna be about Josh Hart. It's gonna be about the point guards.

Again.

You got ty Resee Halliburton, ty Ty Halliburton versus Jalen Brunson.

The clutch Player of the Year earned.

Earn that the best player in the playoffs consistently this year earned that.

Yeah, I said it.

Sorry Sga, Sorry ant Man, Sorry Jokick and the tempo. The pacers like the push push push, push push. We need big Cat, big Bodega. Karl Anthony Towns with all his many actions, Karl Anthony Towns on a different day, different night. His voice changes, his accidents change. We need him to go hard and play hard and dominate. We need him and have a big, dominant series. And the bench contributions. Listen, their bench is a little deeper. We only got two. We got Mitch and we got Deuce. Mitch and Deuce. Deuce and Mitch, and that's all we need to seven man rotation for the most part. I'm predicting right now that the New York Knicks take down the miserable, nasty, unlikable.

They're not likable.

Nobody likes the Indiana Pacers except for Indiana Pacer fans. Nobody likes the Indiana Pacers and Tyrese Halliburton except for Indiana Pacer fans.

I'm predicting right now on WAX. Oh yeah, I'm on WAX.

I'm predicting right now that the New York Knicks decimate and dominate, close, hard fought five games. I got the Knicks and five, baby, I got the Knicks in five going to the NBA Finals in twenty twenty five. The Knicks ini go into the NBA Finals in twenty twenty five. You heard it first from me, mister New York Michael Rappaport aka the Gringo man Dingo.

There, I said it. I feel a lot better now, Nixon five.

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