I Am all in. Oh, I am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, we're back. I am Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All In Podcast with my heart radio ladies and gentlemen. What an episode? Rory's Dance? What is going on? Where's Luke? Luke was not in the episode? Did I shoot some scenes and they got cut? I don't remember. I don't know you have any clue, because my gut feeling is that you you did a scene for this episode that they had to cut, and it was known if you didn't work for a week, the audience couldn't handle it was too powerful. It was too powerful. Were you surprised when you watched the episode and you weren't in it? No, I was too engaged in the episode. I didn't I didn't care. I told you I don't like watching myself, so I was kind of happy. At what point did you realize I'm not in this um after it was done and I said, wait, I wasn't in that. I really enjoyed this episode. I realized until the second time I watched it. I had a call Danielle and I was like, what Scott in that the seeds of my podcast career planted early on. Yes, I need a backup plan. No, I was in the episode. No, the diner was in the background and when she ran out of miss Patties and said, no, I have to get home. I have to get home. No, let me explain it to your as being in it. Well, it's in my contract, guess. But I got paid for that episode. But do you remember any scenes that just didn't make it there? There might have been that scene with Sean Gunn and I in a massive fist fight, but it probably No, No, not at all. No, I just wasn't it. I guess I wasn't in the episode. You didn't save your scripts, did you sure? I did. I have every single script in plastic, and I have every single rehearsal script, and I have every single table read script. I have literally hundreds of scripts. Hello, can you go into the garage where all the gum is and find out if that script is in there, because maybe there's something in the script. Dude, those scripts are in storage in a vault guarded by Doberman pinchers with razor wire. That's how you're gonna put your kid into college with that money? My kid's gonna get a scholarship, a robotics scholarship. He's not gonna need me to pay for it. I just you don't think there's something in the script that was a scene that you shot but then they had to edit it out because did that ever happen? No? No, no, no. The planning of those scripts was very detailed and very specific, and um, I think they must have been getting feedback for the first six or seven episodes that maybe it was I was taking over the show and they had to pull the character. I mean, Suki was barely in it. Suki was barely in it. Michelle wasn't in it. Wait was he? Michelle was not in it? Was it? No? No, no, no, yeah, it was early on. They were still figuring out, you know, where the character was going and you know what was happening. I mean, I don't know. No, I wasn't in it, but Luke's diner was in it in the background, and that's enough. Well, and the end of the episode, I know, I'm going out of order, but the end of the episode was garly dramatic, like that was hardcore, Like when she's like, you're going on the pill and Rory's like, you know, I wouldn't sleep with him. Like the whole thing was like, Oh, this is the worst thing they've had yet. Yeah, that was a that was a real I mean your kids out to I mean, she she fell asleep because Emily gave her some pills, right she got Lauren felt I mean Laura I fell asleep because she was on mild sedatives her back there was no Suki gave it to her, right and and yeah, they both fell asleep. And I don't know, you know what really a couple of he I was thinking about this last night. I said, teenage seventeen year olds. They're not drinking, Uh, they're they're in there falling in love or they're in love. They're excited, they're excitable, they're full of energy. How do they walk into Miss Patties and then all of a sudden fall asleep because we know it was only like, wasn't it was maybe ten thirty they bail on the dance early. It might have been ten What the heck happened in Miss Patties that they just fell asleep? I mean they didn't smoke a joint worn out from the fight with Tristan and the stacking of the beans and worn out. It's a Tacos suki bro. When I was seventeen, I didn't conk once. I don't care how much stress I had in my day. Seventeen year olds can stay until four in the morning without for three days in her own and they're still like bouncing around. I mean, wow, maybe there's a gas leak in Miss Patties. I think it happened, because then we get the crazy scene where she's running and why it happened. Dude, they're nodding out. I don't know. I just wanted to point that out to the paying audience. It's like, what, well, okay, so really it's a Emily lore life fight that then came a lure like Rory catastrophe. That was just typical dumping on your kid after you'd had a confrontation with your mother. You know, the big ugly monster that Emily can be. Um. I mean, she's right, but she's wrong at the same time, right, and Rory called her out on it. Rory kind of said, this is not about me, this is about your mom's right. I wasn't all together surprised when she started opening up on on Rory right away. Because you know she supported her. I trust my kid in this, but you know, I don't know. It kind of makes sense, uh, that mother of her really triggers her. I mean really, and it was they were getting along and yeah, so then we were in for a big old boom. But you know, Rory kind of deserve that she was out all night. She conned at ten thirty. What it's not So from Laurelized point of view, she's probably thinking the same thing. I'm thinking. You're a teenager, you don't conk what's going on. You have too much energy to Oh, I just fell asleep and miss Patty's I wouldn't have believed it either. I think a mother would think my kid's been in a car accident. I think all that fear. Yeah, and I and I know that Laurel I was thinking, um um, I'm just fronting from my mother to defend my kid. But I'm still pissed at my kid because I want a damn explanation. But I'm not going to break in front of my mother because I'm not going to give her the satisfaction that she's right but wrong doing this inside my own home. Amazing performance by all three, completely nailed it, nail just killed it. Just beautiful stuff. Um, and I mean, what can you say? What can you say? Uh, perfect ending, sitting down, covering herself, breaking down, just one of those days and just be a mom. You know every mom goes through it. It's real life happening before our eyes. It's three generations of real life happening before our eyes. Um. Yeah, just wonderful stuff, wonderful, great episode. It's the episode I started liking Dane and Tristan. I really thought Paris was certifiable. Good God, oh my god. And with the cousin and the whole thing is god sad. And then first when Tristan is buying the ticket and he sort of teases, like you got a date, the first time he's actually vulnerable with Rory. I mean that's when he we see that he needs her, wants her, really likes her. It's not just a game now, it's like he really needs there's a need there. Um, there was a need before just to play the game, because he's just testing her the way Laura I tested Max, you know what I mean, and tests me and you know that kind of thing distance distantance. So um yeah, but I mean the takeaway from me, is is in that dynamic with those characters. The only thing that dated that show for me was the behavior of Paris. I mean, that kind of behavior was isn't gonna fly today? Isn't amazing how that particular character in that situation didn't age well. I mean, like I said, like I said previously, I mean, if she can't handle Um, if she can't handle Rory and and and Tristan, if she's gonna trigger to that degree where she's like physically and verbally violent, like bordering on psychosis, how is she going to handle Harvard? I mean, there's a thousand Tristan's there. There's there's a thousand Rorris there. I mean, she's gonna freak out over there in Harvard. Harvard's ten thousand students, it's ten thousand students undergraduates, and it's twenty graduate students. So you know, it's it's it's not a huge campus. It's not a huge college, but it's you know, there's enough people there. Paris is going to be in trouble. She's not a type of person you want to go to Harper No. I mean you know that that Paris is always sort of on the edge of good God losing it. But I mean she came on glued. I'm glued perfect. She came on glued through that entire she started abusing the poor little fellow sitting next to her who was getting the change. At least she didn't recite Shakespeare and somebody's here here well, I mean, at least that's you know, that's sort of harnessing the rage and turning it into something else, which is you know, there's there's some art and that, there's some there's that that's poetic. But I mean she's just out and out, just like Lunacy throughout the whole episode. You kind of do love the comic relief teenage noss of Louise and Madeline. They're always there to just be teenage like and kind of honey and Madeleine always having the last word and coming off like a nice person. But what the hell she dealing with Louise, which makes it even more funny. It's like, what are they doing together? It's like Madeline kind of playing along the the goofy sidekick, and she doesn't she's not really into it, but she is, and she says she's sorry, and you're a nice persons all of a hot mess at that dance, that's for sure. Um, And where were the teachers to break up that fight? They were dancing, they were all day. I saw a lot of older people on the dance floor dancing. They were the teachers, they had to be. Couldn't have been the students, you know. But Dean, boy, he didn't waste any time, doesn't He gets her on the dance floor. Let's make out. Let's go. And Tristan wanted to make out with that date too, even in his like longing for Rory, he was like, Okay, I'll make out with my date too. Did she become more desirable because she had Dean there? Who become more desirable? Oh? God? Far more? Are you kidding? I mean, you bring a kid like Dean into the prom and everybody's gonna be talking about I was not the prom, but the dance, but everybody's gonna be talking about a gossip me gossiping about him? And uh. I thought Dean did very well for himself in this episode. He really was a stand up guy. He became he was crowned the boyfriend and he he deserves her heart at that At that point in time, I mean that's that's a very very chivalrous, romantic, Uh, A manly thing to do is like get away from my girlfriend. You know, it's wonderful. And you know, as old fashioned as that seemed, it's you know, sometimes it's necessary, and it was necessary in that situation. And she was being harassed by Um Tristan. I mean it's just no matter how much you know I liked him, or he's becoming vulnerable. I mean, he was a problem. I mean, she was going to Chiltern, trying to learn, trying to further her education and get into Harvard, and you've got this jackass kid just just mocking her, just disrespecting her every time he showed up. Um, even though his reasons for it are probably understandable, You're right, he really he's a jerk to her. He's a total jerk, and he's inappropriate. And I yeah, I think I think both those characters probably they're not aging well you know what I mean. Yeah, there were there were a few parts where it was a little bit like whoa this is? That's that's very two thousand. It's very two thousand. Okay, everybody, we're gonna take a break when we come back. We're gonna talk more about Tristan, the wonderful Tristan, the complex Tristan. We'll be back. Yeah, sorrybody, We're we're gonna get into a little bit of Chad Michael Murray Tristan uh memories here. Uh. He was just on the Today Show and he was discussing how people react to his character in a very surprising way to him and I think a surprising way to us and everybody listening. People came up to him and and said that they actually really loved his character. He you know, he he was expecting. You know, usually people are you know, are very critical of his character, you know, negative encounters with fans, but he says they've they've been very positive, and he's very surprised by it. So let's let's get into that a little bit, because this is a big episode for Tristan. And uh, what do you guys think about this? Do you love him? Do you hate him? Do you love to hate him? And also we sort he changed changes a little bit too right now. He's pretty awful. I wanted to love him, and I did love him, and I wanted to give him a hug when he was standing there when the camera hit him and he was watching Dean and Rory kiss on the dance floor. I felt bad for the guy. I've been that guy. I've been in his shoes. Every guy has been in his shoes with a girl that he wants. And I was no Tristan. I mean, I'm not trying to compare myself to Tristan. Uh, but that hurts. That's a gut shot. You're gutted, and boy I felt bad for I wanted to give him a hug. I started liking very similar to you in the episode before seeing Max and Laurela. It was sort of that same gut wrenching Yes, Scott, I totally agree with you. Up until this episode, I was very much like, oh, he calls her rry, can he please stop? He's so snobby and annoying and popular. And this episode, I I it took a second. I was like, oh, no, there's something more there, Like I got a little soft spot for him. It was the first time that I actually felt that way. And and it was when Rory was standing in line to buy the ticket for the dance and he came up and he was his arrogant jackass self, But then you realize that he really, he's getting a little more vulnerable with her, He's revealing a little more, and he's asking her, you know, still indirectly, but asking her to go to the dance with him, and it bothers him. So I kind of started like, oh, okay, all right, isn't it amazing what vulnerability does. It's just it's just it's just gosh. Preston is exactly that guy, the guy that's popular and handsome but insecure and sort of deals with it by being kind of a jerk. It made me think hard, what's going on at his home? What's happening with mommy and daddy? What's going on? I mean, it's like, there's there's some bad stuff going on. His dad drinking is what's his dad treating him like crap? Is dad having an affair? It's like, what's going are their mental issues at home? What's happening that poor kid? Agree with you? I felt the same way, And I also thought he was the ultimate pulls your hair because he likes you. That That was then I started becoming like feeling parental toward him, like wanting to reach out and and take his hand and say, hey, bud, let's let's let's go on a little walk, you know, and tell me what's going on in your life. And you know, I wanted to help him. I'm at that stage of my life where I have a little bit of wisdom, you know, a little bit, and and I really wanted to help that kid. And I thought, boy, he's in trouble. He's in big trouble because he's looking like he's going to fail in life, like if he's if he's this way, he's this wound up. And I know Rory is extraordinary, for for sure, she's extraordinary, but uh, and I have the same thought about Paris too. If she's this wound up about Rory at at Chilton, what the hell is she going to react like when she gets to Harvard when there's a thousand Rory's and there's a thousand Tristan's. I agree, it sort of makes sense why Chad Michael Murray recently said that people come up and say I love Tristan because they must understand what's really going on. But first you're like, he's such an ass. But as an actor, right, the sensitivity of Chad and what he did in that moment and the way he looked at her and the way he felt it completely transformed my opinion of him. It made me see that's called layering a character character and that's again right, writing, great acting. These kids are really good actors. Jesus. These kids are so young and they're so good at what they do. I think I think he was eighteen at the time too. They're just kids. It's not surprising that this show got him the lead on One Tree Hill. It, Yeah, it's not surprising at all. I mean, he's showing a real depth of uh. I mean, just wow. His soul was ruined watching her dance with and kissing ruined. He was just ruined. And the way he kind of went limp a little bit and he you know, he confronted Dean and you know, hey, we haven't met, and then and then he escalated. But even the way he did that, and that's a tough scene for for Chad to play because he's got to come off tough, but he also has to, you know, go limp a little bit in the face of an obviously stronger uh and a more righteous Dean in the situation, and it's like, how does he play it? So at a certain point in that scene, the confrontation scene with Dean. With Dean is I think he realized and he made his choice as an actor. He realized that he was in the wrong, that he was the weaker person, and that Dan Dean made him realize that, and he actually felt shame. I felt the same way physically, he sort of really Yeah, he kind of gave up so beautifully. Yes, it was. It was. It's so difficult to do, and he did it beautifully. He did it beautifully. He kind of manned up. But then he, you know, he knew he was in the wrong, and I think he pulled back because he realized that, especially when he went in for the last time and and and Dean just said before they started pushing each other, Um, he just kind of you could see in his eyes a light go out a little bit like this, he wasn't going to get his way. And I think it was almost he was almost doing it because he didn't want to get his way. I think he did it because he wanted Dean to beat him up. I think he did it because he thought he deserved to get beaten up. Yeah. I don't think any of what you're saying is wrong. I think you're kind of right. I can't decide if he's spoiled or what the deal is, but yeah, I think he's just super sad on the inside. I think he's he's very wealthy, he's very privileged. He's so handsome. Yeah, great looking kid, and it's got everything going for him. But boy, what a facade because there's a hurt, wounded soul behind that thing, and it's so interesting to see it. It's really interesting for him to peel that layer back and to show us that he's not. Yeah, I'm a I'm a jackass and I know I'm a jackass, and I don't like it, so please beat me up, because why else would you? Why else would you challenge somebody who's, like, you know, three inches taller than you are. It's interesting when we read that Chad gets that reaction. We did like an informal poll, Danielle where they're like, what happened? It was pretty split forty eight in favor of Tristan and don't like him. So I think we get the opinions from people who like him and hate him. It's like, I I sort of loved it, hate him. Yes, the character allows you to really, you know, vent on somebody like that, because we've all had people like that in our lives, right, um um. But I don't know, I'm I like him, I want to get to know him now. I'm interested in like finding out what's going on with him. Yeah, you really kind of love Tristan and Dean in this episode. I mean, I still think Tristan's he's a eighteen he's a kid, he's seventeen, you know. I mean, come on, those kids are They're so filled with confidence, you know, and you know, nothing really bad has happened to them yet. Nobody's ever said no to them yet. They just haven't been out in the world. But I think in Tristan's background, something's going wrong and it's and it's and it's going it's going wrong, like right now as it's happening, and he's he's freaked out by it. You know, maybe the parents split up, Maybe the parents are fighting a lot or splitting up, or who the heck knows. Yeah, And I think I think he's probably just a very sensitive, very intelligent boy who was probably a very sweet boy, and he's getting abused. Somebody's abusing him. Maybe his father is verbally abusing him or being too rough. With him or cutting him down? You know, who knows? Who the hell knows? But it's like I want to know. I want to know what it is. What's his damage? Boy, let's get him on. I want to I wanna because he has more insight and he, you know, made these choice, maybe had some conversations with Amy about background that's not in the show. So it would be interesting to find pretty sweet guy. He's a sweet guy in their life, as you know. Yeah, he's a good dude. Okay, Danielle, tell us how we're going to solve this conundrum. So we have one listener that is calling it right now, Easton, if you want to let her in from the waiting room. Her name is Amelia. Hates him, she likes him. Hello, Amelia, Hi, how you doing? Goodness? My goodness? Right pack at you? How are you doing? Let me? Where are you calling in from? Look at the sweatshirt? Got the Luke sweatshirt on? There you go representing alright? Where you Where are you from? Amelia? Joshua Tree, California? Oh my god, you're out in the desertn't really working for my my temperature outside? No? No, no, what's it out there? Something crazy? Yeah? The Desert. Thank God for free on. So you have either a question or a comment for us? Oh well, I mean, yeah, you guys um in your stories. So he talked about Tristan um if people liked him or didn't like him, And I know a lot of people probably don't like him, but I mean I don't like him, like I want to hang out with Tristan. But I think as a character he's really dynamic. There's a lot there and I love to unpack that stuff. As a viewer, I like that he's kind of puts up a facade. I mean he's a teenager, so you remember that. I mean I started watching the show when I was ten, so I didn't pick up any of this then. But um, you know he's a teenager. He's figuring it out. And I think that he just wants validation from girls at school, boys school, his parents, and he gets it obviously in the wrong ways. So he puts up this like not a very nice guy saw it. So he's kind of misunderstood. But there's moments where you could see he has like a heart and a soul. They're fleeting, but they happen, Um, And I just think he's really misunders that he does it to himself. But he's a teenager, so you know, she engages with him. You know, she doesn't just walk away or ignore him. There's some sort of push pool there because she always sort of ping pongs with him, meaning Rory. Yeah, I mean, and he's a cutie pie. I mean it's Chad Michael Murray. So I'm not complaining. If I was in high school with Chad Michael Murray, I'd probably be like, all right, So I mean, well, you know, um, we were discussing this and this episode is specifically, um Rory's dance when she goes to children dance and they getting Dean and and Tristan get into there, you know, almost fisticuffs. Um. You know, I started liking I started liking Tristan because just for the reasons that you just stated, because there's something there. There's maybe something going wrong in his home life and he doesn't know how to handle it, and he's internalizing it. It's being out in all these ways and he's probably he's you know, he's mimicking both his parents, right, So he's being imprinted in a very negative way somehow over a period of time, and he's you know he's coming off like this, this giant jerk, and I'm sure I see that from his behavior in this episode that he is not a giant jerk. I don't think he. I think there's something very sweet and soulful there and he's lost it. He's lost himself and he needs to get himself back, which is why I think and obviously he thinks Rory can help him. Yeah, I completely agree. I feel like and even if he's like getting that negative imprint from his parents, maybe even they're not giving him enough attention, so he's like, how can I get attention, I'll act out, um, And yeah, I just think there's not a lot of self love there. There's not, like feel like, there's a lot of self doubt within himself, and he acts out negatively and he sees something good in Rory, which I mean he doesn't. I mean, she's just she's just a breath of fresh air and completely unaffected and beautiful and breezy and smart, and it's probably everything he's been looking for and hasn't been able to find. I mean, it's like it's either it's either Louise or or it's hurts Rory, which line you're gonna stand in right, I mean Louise right right. Yeah, she's still nice to him. She like finds the good in him, and you think he sees that and picks up on that. So it's like, Okay, even though I called you marry and I was that typical like I don't know, school grade school, like I'm going to be mean to you because I like you attitude. She's looked past that and it's just shown him kindness. And I mean anyone that's I feel like like him is going to look at that and be like, hey, wait a minute, I like you. She's she's look, she's a little she's a little rough with him. I mean she she gives him his do uh when they're standing in line, when she's buying the tickets. I mean she's really kind of going after him a little bit. I mean she's she's returning service beautifully. Yeah, I love it, especially when she yells at him after she hits the deer. I mean I appreciate that. So yeah, I just think there's a quality about Tristan that I'm intrigued by. Now. I'm fascinated. I want to I want to get to know him a little better. And I hope. And I haven't seen the episodes obviously, I've just I've stopped at Rory's dance, but I'm I'm intrigued to see how he develops. And I'm starting to like Dean too. But I know I've been listening and I'm like, no, no, but I didn't like the Boogie night thing and hey, now it's my turn and you know this kissing and the thing and and the Dozies marketing. I know I didn't like all that stuff, but you know it's like now this fresh episode and he's, uh, he's he's being a good boyfriend and it's kind of cool because she's, you know, hey, so what do we you my boyfriend? And it's like, I don't know, you want me to be? It is, it's very it is very sweet and he's a sweet kid. He's showing that side of himself. Um, so, Amelia, so thank you for coming on. It was a very interesting discussion. Oh well, thank you. We really appreciate the input. Um, and good luck with your photography out there in Joshua Tree and thank you and thank you. This is crazy. You're Luke, I mean your Scott, but you're Luke. And I've been watching you since I was ten and your show shaped me and I just this is amazing, So thank you so much, wonderful. We've had a lot of fun and uh and nice talking to you. Yeah you too, thank you. All right, sweetheart, I think we've got somebody in the waiting room, uh for a fan question, and let's let's get question. We need a high so let's let's jump into your question. You emailed a question and we're curious. Go ahead and give us your question. Okay. So um, in season one, episode nine, where Rory goes to the dance, UM, Emily sitting on the couch with Flora Lae and she's trying, um, some smashed bananas on toast, and when Emily gets up from the couch, there's a piece of neon green tape those under the chair where she's been sitting. And then in season six, episode thirteen, Friday Night is all Right for Fights, Suki and Loria la are in an outdoor flower market and they have the same piece of neon green tape that's on their jackets, and UM, I'm assuming that it's like a place marker for where they stand or the jackets that they were supposed to use for the scene and then it maybe just didn't get removed. But UM, I'm wondering if you could maybe speak to that a little bit more on um, what is like to be an actor and have such intense dialogue and um and be having to move at a certain place, being a certain position, um, especially being like um for your character being in the diner being um, cooking or cleaning or busting a table at the same time while you're while you're acting. So, yes, you're you're right about the tape. It every actor gets a color designation. I guess the green tape. I guess that was assigned to Uh, Kelly, is that what you're saying? You saw it first with with Emily Gilmour, Yes, since season one? Yes, so yeah, so so Emily. I guess was was green because when the crew comes in, when we come in for a full crew rehearsal uh, and we've figured out sort of our movements and are it's called blocking, and where we're gonna go on certain lines and all the you know, the the balletic, the core the choreography of the scene where everybody's moving. Um. Uh. The crew he's the crew guy has a many different colored tapes uh in a holster and he pulls out that tape because okay, so Luke moves over here, so I mean I forget I I forget which color I was. It was probably red or something like that, and he said, or blue or something. He put a blue tape down there so that you I would know where my first mark was. And then they do the same thing for all the actors. So there's lots of pieces of different colored tape all over the floor and that's that's the roadmap for all of the actors to see. And you can't look at it, but you know it's there, So so that's your that's kind of like your UM, your navigation system that we used to make sure we knew we were standing on the right mark because that's where they set the lighting. So if if if you're standing on your mark, then the lighting is gonna hit you right and you know the director is gonna be happy, and if you miss your mark, the lighting is going to be off, and then everybody else's lighting is going to be off because you're gonna pull their looks over in the wrong direction. And then they yell cut and said you gotta hit your mark. We gotta do it again. So and as far as how to um to do all the the you know, the physical stuff and the and the serving of the food and you know that's um. You know, that's something you learn in acting school. Uh. And you just sort of keep gradually adding on more tasks to do and in scenes and scene work that you're doing in class. Uh. And then when you do plays you have to do that as well. There's a lot of props to deal with, and there's a whole course of study on how to deal with props and how to handle props and do you have to do it the same for every take? Yes, you do. Yeah, that's called matching. You have to match. So if George comes up to you, say, Scott, that didn't match, I said, oh, what did I do? I said, you put the plate down on the word after you know the and you put it. Yeah. So if you miss it even by that much, so it's exacting. So your rehearsal process nails down all of the movement and the and the props and uh um and the lighting scheme and the choreography. And if you miss any anything but even buying a very in your brain, you have to go like cut plate toast, cut plate toast, and then you're also doing all those crazy lines. You're like blah blah blah, cut plate toast. Whoa, that sounds kind of loud. You are truly exhausted at the end of the day because you're just your brain is is is just you know, trying to absorb all this stuff all day and you know, sending all those signals out to every part of your body. And uh and plus you know there's a there's an emotional life there too that has to be um, um, oh my god, right come, plate toast line, line, line right right right. So it's but it's not anything. The more you do it, the better you get at it, and the more comfortable you feel with it. And I got to the point on Gilmore where I I preferred using a lot of props and being very proppery and very active with the props because it's just, you know, it was easier for me to attach what line was I'm going to pick the couple on or drop the plate or pick up the plate and the whole thing and it's sort of I don't know, it just made it easier to do a scene. Um. Whereas when you're out there in the desert and it's just the two of you're talking. That's tough because I remember that kitchen scene in the in the reboot, where I was passionately pleading with Laurel La not to leave me when um, and it was just the two of us, there were no props to deal with. There was nothing, And that's when you're truly naked emotionally, and those are more difficult to pull off, um because you can't really you know, you can't hide behind the props anymore. Um. So, anyway, I hope that answers your question. Yeah, that's very interesting. Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you Winita for coming on and uh and uh and keep watching, thanks listening. Stay safe, all right, take care. You know, let's have a little fun. Let's let's go ahead and re enact this. We had so much fun doing it last week. Let's let's reenact the scene where uh, you know, Rory goes into Dosie's Market to ask Dean to the dance and and Keiko is breathlessly, you know, staring through the glass to see what happens. So she she even says to Royce, says, you know, annuncate your words, I read lips. So so we're gonna we're gonna re enact this with uh with another lovely fan. Who who do we have? Is that Heather? How are you doing? You're wearing the hat or is that just your natural look? Like it is rocking the look? It's out of respect of it. At this, Look at this, Heather, That's awesome. I gotta put my glasses on to check this out. This is look at you. That's a that's a Luke suit. It is number one top drawer. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. How did it hat? What are you calling in from? I live in Seattle, Seattle, all the way from Seattle. Yeah, not too far from you. Guys though, did you work on the scene? Because I didn't? I did? Um, I hope I do it justice. Well, I know I'm gonna suck. I'm not going to be a good Dean. I'm playing Dean because I'm not in this episode. I know. I well, that's what when I heard it was this one, I thought, not even in this one. Luke's not even make sense. We'll create our own scene. I know it's going to be great. The scene that that that hit the cutting room floor never made it on the episode aired. All right, so now I'm by Now I have to I have to be Dean. Okay, so this will be the biggest acting challenge of my life. I know how you feel about Dean too, so he love Jared. But but you know what, Dean he I like him in this episode. I liked what happened. He's very good in this episode. Yeah, you know, it's like I might be kicking just to the curb pretty soon. I might be doing that. I might do that because I like Dean in this I like Dean in this episode. She wants to make it right too. You know, at the end of the episode, he really tries. He wants to go with Rory back to talk to her mom. I mean, he does the right thing. He does the right thing. He figured out how to get out of his car and stop honking. I like. I like that. He's an intelligent young man. You don't run out when a boy honks for you. Tell you what man Jess might be. You know, I know he's blood, I know he's family. But I like the Dean going after the tris didn't it was It was good. Yeah, and knock out the Mary Boy. You know, I'm a recent Team Jess convert. Actually I was a team Okay, don't don't be too upset. I know somebody else is also a Team Logan hardcore, Yes, Amy is. I mean, I was Team Logan for so long. I loved how they challenged each other, and I love how they changed one another. I love how he came full circle at the end. But you know what, after the revival, I changed my mind because I was so disappointed in the relationship. There a sort of relationship then, and I saw how Jess really helped Rory, and she had that great idea for the book, and even at the end when he looked at her through the window, I was like, that's that's the one. So I'm now a Team Jess. I never thought i'd say it, but years later, I'm a convert. I'm still I'm still Team Jett, Team Jess. But I gotta tell you, the opportunity to get into the skin of Dean in an acting scene might help me get that that five percent I need to get to get the Team Dean. Because I'm I'm right there, I'm right on the fence. I liked what I saw in this episode from that young boy. I like this scene. He's really I mean, what a great guy. He restrained himself, he didn't swing and punch. He just said, I'm not going to fight you, because what does I kill you? And he didn't mean kill in the sense that he'd kill him. He meant kill when that he would defeat him badly. So yes, yes, there would be damage to the Tristan Uppers and Lowers that Dennis would be very the Orthodonis between. I like this episode anyway, So you ready to act? Have you been working on it? I don't know. I made my husband run through it with me a bunch of times. I don't know how to play Dean, and now I have to be eighteen, and that's you know, I'm I'm a little four years past eighteen. But let's see what I can do. I was trying to put myself back in. What is it like when you're a teenager and you're this is so vulnerable to ask somebody to a dance, you know. I was trying to put myself back there, because that's that's hard. It was hard what I think we both need to do since we're since we're are both of our voices is probably bottomed out since we were teenagers. We need to be at a higher pitch. We need to be high. Yeah, we can't be so low in our throat. We can't be. So let's try that. So maybe we can be. We will try it. Not not necessarily squeaky, but sometimes Rory does come off squeaky. She can be sometimes. And for you, Heather, to achieve that level of cuteness and vulnerability in your voice, my god, let's see what happens. I don't know. Now you're setting me up. I'll try it, alright, alright, uh, alright, everybody settle Heather, you're good ready? Good? Yes? Yes, yes, yes? And action? Hey oh hey you're busy. Yeah no, I just had to put these green beans chip ands on the shelves. You want to help? Yeah, sure, I love stucking beans. Okay, follow me. So do you work on Saturdays? I forget, Well, it depends. Sometimes I come in if I don't have any plans. So why no reason? This is so bad? I can't do Dean to save my life, killing going, keep going, I'll try to find another Dean voice. Go ahead, See there's this thing at my school on Saturday. Well it's not really at my school, but it's it's kind of given by my school. What is it? Well, it's this kind of thing where you go and they play music and you're supposed to get all dressed up and do some kind of dance and there's chicken chicken. I don't know if there's chicken, but these kinds of things, they often serve chicken because it's probably cheaper and people eat it. So the logical the chicken twists really is not bad. I'm lost, and it's not like I'm dying to go or anything, but it is a new school and being part of social activity that's really important in Chilton. So are you asking me to go to a dance with you? No? Yes, I mean if you wanted to go, I would go to. Well that'd probably good since it's your school, right, So do you want to go? Honestly? Yeah, I've actually never gone to a dance before because they're lame. It's just not the way I ever wanted to spend my timing. I mean, I'm I'm not a big joiner. Okay, fair enough? More beans? Please? You want to go, don't you? No? I don't. I don't have any desire to go at all. I was just thinking out loud, that's all. Huh. So what would I have to wear? What to this dance? What? What would I have to wear? Anything you want? No? Really? Whatever you're comfortable. Some sort of pants would be good. It's coding, TI, man, But you probably get away with the coating. No time I have to take. You have to take a longer pause. Yeah, give me that line again. But you could probably get away with the coat and no tie. H okay, really, thank you? That was excellent. I had one more line, the most important line of the whole thing. Alright, cut, we're gonna have to do it again. Maybe you just give that last line. I can give the one before welcome. There you go, done, We're good. There you good? So we can we can splice that in. Actually, I felt the scene gained real life when Amy jumped in at the end. I like that. I thought Heather was so much better than Danielle and Riley. It was amazing. I thought Heather was fantastic. Good thank you costuming too, since she got in character even though she wasn't portraying that character. Rory as Luke and I had to meet Luke as Dean that's a game of twister, mental twister right there. For the thing that's that's really like, what's they're not? How are they going to colate that? It's it's But you did a great job. You were really good, Scott. I'm really happy you changed your voice because that Dean voice and something else. I was struggling. I just didn't know what I thought. It was actually my eyes for a minute, I closed my eyes for a minute, and I really felt it was deep. I was inhabited. Dean was inhabiting me. It was. It was weird spiritual experience, you know, before you go. Do you have any questions or tips for us as we try to improve this? Uh? I am all in podcast. I'm just so excited doing this. This show is meant so much to me. So you guys being here each week, I mean it's taking me through everything, everything in your life. There's something about in Gilmore's with it, you know, heartbreak, going to college, graduating, even when my dad had a heart attack. I thought Gilmore's has that, you know. Um So I I love it. Um. I love that you're breaking down this, you know, the episodes and any behind the scenes stuff is always great. I do have a question. I always said I would ask if I ever got the opportunity. It's skipping way ahead, but if anybody's listening, I kind of figured that they've already kind of watched it. Anyway. So Orla comes to Luke at the diner and says, we gotta get moving with the marriage thing. Let's elope April needs to figure out how she's going to fit into lives, not the other way around. Let's go. Luke says, I can't jump, you know, it's too fast. Laura Lai says, okay, I'm out. She leaves, and she goes and she sleeps with Christopher, and then Luke cons and he's all packed up, he's got all his stuff, he's got the camping gear, he's ready to go, and he says, let's do it. And she says, I slept with Christopher and he leaves. And I always wondered if she hadn't slept with Christopher, do you think that they would have stayed together, like what would have happened after that? Well? Yeah, I don't remember any of that, but I do. I think, of course, logic would dictate that the chances would be much better than there's this thing that funny, quirky thing about people in relationships. When you sleep with someone else, it somehow affects adversely the relationship that you're in. Isn't that wild? I don't blame Luke for leaving and he even goes and he goes straight to Christopher's apartment and punch boom right in the kisser right there. It's because it's a fan. You don't want Lorela to sleep with Christopher at that point, and so it's really satisfying. But that's the that's the craft of you know, the craft of writing will do the thing to the fans that they least want in order to get them to lean forward. Because now you feel like you're you're involved in it. I mean, they're really messing with you now, right, So it's uh, you know, that's that's what good writers do. They give you what you want sometimes, but they give you a lot of what you don't want, so or what you think you don't want anyway. Um, yeah, that's very What season are you even talking about here? What season is? So it's season seven? Is to come back in about three years? You would have me back in that time. I would be happy to come back and ask again, we can all chat, but I just always had it on my mind because I mean, I'm so glad they ended up together. Obviously we know Luke and Laurelar end game, we know that, but I always just had that thought, why why at the end there did they you know? Was there that? So it's just heartbreaking. It's a heartbreaking breakup right there. The life of a fan, right it is. Even as many times as I watched it, it's still I still can't get over it. It's tough, right Yeah, Yeah, but you were fantastic. That was an amazing reading. Thank you, Thank you so much. Thank you for having just a delight and an honor. Um. And yeah, when we get to that episode, when we get to that episode season seven, which will be in a couple of years, knock on wood, then we should have you back. Yeah, please do, because I would just I would love nothing more than to discuss that bazing job. Heather, Thank you so much, No, thank you guys, thanks so much, Um, and thanks for doing the podcast. So, I mean, it means so much to so many people, it really does, so I appreciate it, as they'll speak for all the fans that we appreciate it and it's for you guys, and much appreciate it. Okay, all right, have a good day, take care talk. So wasn't she great? I love it when the fans call in and it's so much fun. They're so great. Then they're they're dressing up, they're wearing their paraffin, they're wearing their gear. You know they're gearing up. Anyway, gear time for a comedy bit where we're all going to try bananazon toast. I didn't. I couldn't mash mine. I couldn't deal with it. I feel like it's going to be grosser if I mash it. It's definitely gonna be grosser if you match more gross It's but I have banana circles, I have pieces of banana. I couldn't mash it. It looks so heinous. It was just like, it doesn't look like mashed bananas. That look like something else. Are you trying it? Well? In theory, a piece of toast and a banana would be like a fine breakfast. It's that it was mashed like baby food. Yeah, it was. It was just awful to say, mine is more like the way you would want your avocado toast, right right, right? I can see. I have my banana slice. Okay, ready on three on three, Ready on three one two? Not that bad? Welcomes terrible. Oh it's not good. Actually, now it's a very odd taste. Oh god, that's awful. It was an after like at first it was okay. Yeah, at first it's okay, and then you start chewing and it's like, don't eat more of it? What are you doing? I got banana is awesome. I'm just eating the toast. I'm not going to waste a perfectly good piece of toast. I knew that would be bad just looking at it. Looks bad, right, everybody that the bananas and toast is, in a word, heinous. It is. It is truly, truly an awful combination. And just the fact that Emily force fed that to a young Laurel I uh says, I think a lot about Emily so because we just we just tried, we we tried to force feed ourselves. We couldn't even do it. I spit it out. It's over there right now, get it. I'm gonna get it out of the room. On break. I'm like removing this from the room. I don't even want to look at it, all right, we'll be back after these words. Yeah, okay, everybody, We're back. I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I M all In podcast you're listening to on iHeart Radio. It is time for one of our favorite segments, pop Culture Ladies and gentlemen. Riley take it away. I'm Riley and this is your pop culture first. We have Laura l You know, mom, you have a Barbara stand wicked voice. So, Barbara Stanwick was an American actress, model, and dancer active from to Barbara became a zeke Field Follies dancer at fifteen. The Follies were classy, spectacular show featuring the great talents of the day. She was actually the highest paid woman in America in ur raking four thousand dollars that year. A fun fact. One more fun fact. Last night I was watching Back to the Future at number one, and when Marty McFly goes back to the fifties, Barbara Stanwick is starring in the movie with Ronald Reagan at the movie theater in Hill Valley, Boom. I think she was on a show called A Big Valley. She was on TV two. She she was a staple in our household. And when I was growing up. Barbara stand was a big story. You love some old timey references on Gilmore Girls. Keep them coming, Laura I says, become a crazy Oscar Levant kind of celebrity, go on talk shows. Heckel Regis so. Oscar Levant was an American concert pianist, composer, and music conductor. From nineteen sixty. Oscar dropped out of high school to pursue music. While he was considered a multi faceted genius, he also had been known as a notorious hypochondriac and a nice little regius pop culture mentioned in that same sentence, who was the Regius and Kathy Lee? Then Regis and Kelly, which is now Kelly and Ryan Seacrest, Rory says to Tristan, really, does Susan Faluti know about this? So? Susan Fluti was an American feminist, journalist and author from the nineteen eighties to now. Susan's a strange father survived the Holoclast. She also has dual citizenship between the US and Hungary. Her most recent book is about fluid and binaries. Rory says, I hear Squeaky from is Up for Pearl Soon. Squeaky was an American criminal who was a member of the Manson family cult led by Charles Manson. Actually, on September five and Sacramento, Squeaky attempted to assassinate President Gerald Ford by aiming a firearm at the president, which was later determined not to be loaded. And Squeaky's up for Pearl soon, Laura Lee, While Mom, look at you, you think Ann Taylor was having a sailor or something. So everyone knows Ann Taylor as a woman's clothing store, But did you know that Ann Taylor is not actually a real person. The retail chain is named after a best selling shirt dress style in the night ten seventies, and taylor shopping bag was inducted in the Smithsonian's Permanent collection. And Taylor is not a real person. That expands a lot, clears a lot of stuff up for me, Laura Lie, Hey Dean, Meet my mother. Emily Post. Emily Post is an American author, novelist, and socialite. Emily is famous for writing about etiquette, and her book is called Emily Post Etiquette. The book was ironically, at one point the second most stolen book from libraries, the first being The Bible Etiquette Two Bits of Etiquette, advice from Emily. So once they read the book, they returned the book because that's etiquette, and they steal the Bible. One of the piece of etiquette is thank your host twice and when in doubt, where the planar dress. It is always far better to be underdressed than overdressed. Thank you Scott, because you're our host. Thank you Scott. Thanks for dressing and you're definitely underdressed. Thank you very much, Laura Lie, I mean it. You could have gotten Fred McMurray too, off, Dad, you'd really wanted to. Fred has appeared in more than a hundred films, many of them Western. Some of his other films include My Shaggy Dog and My Three Sons, My Three Sons, Huge hit when I was growing up, Huge hit that theme song. Wow. He was the first person ever named a Disney Legend, and at one point he was the fourth highest paid actor in America. Next ones for Amy Rory. I'll be standing in the back listening tore Oh. I know so many fun facts about degrees bring him or would you need me to do them? How do you know so many? Because I was there with nine degrees from the very beginning. So here's a little fun fact that Nick Lasha just revealed in that their song The Hardest Thing. Nick hated the line about Dr Shivago and then that song became one of their biggest hits. Riley, what else you got? Rory says, have you seen The Outsiders? Just call me pony boy. So The Outsiders was actually originally a book, but the book was created into a film packed with a cast full of Hollywood's upcomers such as Matt Dylan, Rob Low, Patrick Swayze, and Tom Cruise just to name a few. I think Ralph Macchio was in there, Diane Lane. That was like packed with stars, packed with stars. So the book was written by S. E. Hinton was Susan Elise Hinton, a fifteen year old school student in Tulsa who wrote The Outsiders. Editors suggested she go by s E so readers could and for a male author was responsible. Unbelievable. Okay, I think it's time to uh go to our produce one of our producers, Danielle, to get an update on the clown pillow. Danielle take it away. So the clown pillow was really sneaky this episode. You really had to it watch, like really watched to find it, um I had Did anybody notice it? Nope? No, no, okay, So the clown pillow when um Suki comes over with the burritos and lor La is talking to um her mom like on the phone, talking to Emily on the phone. Um, it is propped up next to her. But it's just a side view of it, but you can it's very clown pillow. Ask. You can see like the side profile of the clown and it's right there waiting for everyone to look at it. You have clown pillow eyes, Daniel, I really do. I have one other little interesting tidbit that you may or may not have spotted, but I found this with my internet research. During Tristan and Dean's confrontation, the actor who played Caesar is in the background. Yes, maybe we can do a zoom in so people can see it on our social media. But they think maybe he was just a background actor playing a different character. Unless Caesar moonlights at high school dances. Uh. You know, the more days that he works, the more money he makes. So probably he was in the club and they just they threw him another episode. Now it's time for favorite lines. Who's going to start us off? Riley go ahead. So I love when Emily says this is not a drive through, she is not fried chicken. When Dean hanks to come get her, that was my Daniel. You're gonna have to come up with another one. It's okay, I have to just in case this happens. So my second one is when Laura Lee goes shield the talk. I love that. Oh my god, they're holding coconuts and leering. It's funny you treated my lovely gift for a semi pornographic leering monkey lamp. How could you bacca rock crystals for a monkey lamp? Um? I think my favorite line was when Emily's going back and forth on the phone with Laura Lae about Lauraa making Rory's dress, and Emily said something like, please don't use the curtains. That's actually a poster reference. We sort of missed because it was the sound of real reference. We should have had that so insulting. It's like, you have no you're you're my daughter, but you have no taste, and I fear you will use the curtains to make a dress. I have to add in one more line. I'm sorry, I this one was just so good. Um when Tristan and Dean were fighting and Dan goes, you will not go near her ever again. So good. Yeah, Dean up in his game. That's Rory's dance. Everybody, what's the episode next week that we all need to watch? Forgiveness and stuff? Forgiveness and stuff. Really that sounds like a big episode. You're in it. I'll cover my eyes. I'm actually liking some of this stuff. I'm liking some of this stuff. I do. 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