I am all in, Kiss you, I am all in with Scott Patterson and I heart Radio podcast. Hey, everybody's Scott Patterson here, I am all in podcast. We're going to be talking with Dave Gruber Allen, who was in season two episode seventeen, Dead Uncles and Vegetables. Um. He has a very broad background in the entertainment field with a comedy troupe and starting in New York, came out to l a. Then he started getting cast because he's a very unique personality and a very unique, very soothing voice. Uh. And he plays the eternal hippie uh whenever he's cast. Um. And he can't wait to talk to him. So let's bring him in, Danielle, can you bring him in? God? It bringing him in? Hey, Scott, how's it going, man? It's going great. Dave? How are you, buddy? I'm so happy to see you and so happy to accept your invitation to be on. Thank you so much. I'm really grateful, Like kid, do not you know? This is this is what makes doing this so much fun is to have you know, people like you on that are unsung, who come on to to an episode that you get two or three scenes, you steal the whole episode, and you wonder why you didn't get more episodes, especially that you can do arts and crafts at that level. You know, Scott, I know that you're an artist. Yeah, you're a lot of art and you collected and amazing. But I was wondering how much of at his crafts, So I thought, let me do something here, and uh so you know what, I was actually trying to accommodate you and your team. They're right team. I am all in um because if there's a huge delay in my talking and it's aggrave eating, I'm happy to just put this guy up here and go like, that's my guy, that's my avatar. No that that like maybe briefly, but that's gonna be uh you know, that's kind of cool. That's kind of funky and cool. I kind of like that. Let's do it a little bit. Yeah, Okay, thanks for having me here though, I appreciate it. So it's a pleasure having your man um. So listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna let the audience know a little bit about your background. Uh. David Allen appears his second Troubert Or a Minister and Minister for a total of four episodes. You were only in four episodes. You should have been in forty. You should have been Why were you? I just man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I want some bucks anyway. Although he only appears in four episodes, the Second Troubador stars, Hall is a very recognizable character, perhaps because of his charm and humor edition. Most of the appearances occurrent monumental moments near the end of season and c below. Okay, here we go. Listen, you are charm at both well. I don't think you're gonna have one without the other, can you? Well? Maybe not. I mean, is the soul of humor? Charmer is themost charm humor. I don't know. Listen, you appeared. You're best known for TV series The Higgins Boys, and you were also a counselor. You left out, you left out the important boards. Scott Brewer. That's that's me. That's David Gruber, and now you're you're David Gruber. Allan's my apologies. I'm seeing with David Gruber alien here, but it's just my eyesight. That's all Higgins Boys, and Gruber was playing guidance counselor Jeff Rosso got it on the Jutt Apptow produce comedy drama Freaks and Geeks. You also played Mr Quest on ned Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide and the town Trooper on Gilmore Girls. I have to share this with you two, Scott, that you mentioned that Judd Apatow produced Uh, Freaks and Geeks. Don't forget that Paul fig created Freaksing Geeks. It's really important because Paul it's basically Paul's life. And then Judd said, I think this is a great show. So it was. It was a tag team effort on Paul and Judd's behalf, you know, to go, let's get this show out there. And that's that was probably my biggest best thing. So I was on more than four of those. Scott, you are you were? You were? You were serious? Regular? Right? Yeah? Regular enough? Yea, all right, let's get let's get into the Gilmore thing first and start from the beginning. And we know from the iconic of Freaks and Geeks, Neddie Classified much more. How did you but how did you get started in acting? And did you always want to be an actor? You know what? It's on my tax forms, So just note this. I know that you are an actor and you study acting. So I'm a performer and it's really weird. I actually put it on my taxes, Scot, I put performers slash writer because I don't consider myself a very good actor. I'm kind of a actor, if you will, So I actually I performed. That's what I do, and many of my characters if you know me personally, and now we do. Great to meet you. Um Mr Rosso, Mr Quest the second try, but are on Gilmo Girls. It's kind of just me saying lines that other people wrote. So if that's acting, sure I'll take it. But I'm kind of more of a performer. So um, well I got and I got my start in high school. Just you know, in high school. Could you remember what production? In high school? It was a it was called like Fall Follies, and we did a fire signed theater, ask your grandparents, Ask your great grandparents, comedy skit. It was a radio skit, so I heard radio from way back and it was a comedy group that had a funny skit called Mark Time. And it was like Fall Follies where people did skits and songs and so forth. So my friend Paul Felster and I took just every word from a fire signed theater recorded comedy skit. This is ancient history, right, and that's where you got that going? So and by the way, can I mention one thing? May I please mention this? I can clear up another podcast? By the way, I am all in for I am all in, Okay. I don't care about any of the other boy I don't who cares about him? However, on another podcast, one of the Saturday Live cast members Chris Red super funny guy. Right, great, he's a rapper, he's a singer, he's a really funny guy. He said that only two people we're funny that came out of Naperville, Illinois, and one was Bob oden Kirk. Right, we love we love Bob, and I love Chris Red. But he said there was only two him and Bob Odenkirk. So I'll let your fans, who I trust with humor and charm. I trust that your fans are are humorous and charming, to say maybe let's like grouper in that group. It's a pretty small group. Two people. Come on, I think I think you should you know, we don't even need to consult with the audience. Let's put you in the group. There's three people now from Napierville, thank you, that are funny, good, and there may be more. Scott. I don't mean to discount anybody else who came out of there that was hilarious. So I just wanted to make sure that Chris Rednew I think I'm too old for him. I think that's why he didn't know me. So what are you gonna do? What? You know what? You can't do anything? You know? You have? There you go, there, you go, there's a there's the crafty Dave. So listen, you worked with so many great actors and when they were just young uns on Freaks and Geeks, could you tell at the time that they would go on to do great things? Well, you know what too, And I'm gonna do what I call a sidebar. You know everything I do as all the legal leads. So I'll tell you about sure that whole cast, right of Seth and uh, Linda Cardlini and all those folks, you kind of sense that they were really something. Alison Jones really and Paul Feig and Judd. They chose some really great young people to be those students on Freaksy Geeks, right, And so you knew they were going to go somewhere. There was no doubt about it. But also I was early on and other people relevant to your show, my friend because Lauren Graham I knew just kind of from l A and around. We were in a movie that nobody saw called dil Scallion together. That was the first time I spent any time with her. Right. Also, Melissa McCarthy, right, the first time I met her was on your show, right, just briefly. I think we're in maybe a a town hall scene or something like that, or you know, in passing. But then I got to work with her twice on Mike and Molly right and in Ghostbusters, where I was so freaky made up that she did not recognize me as close as you know, as close as this No Joe. I was sitting in the makeup chair and they go, oh, hey, Melissa, this is a grouper and maybe she didn't know Grouper either or that name, and oh, hi, next to meet you. It's like, oh my god, because the makeup that I have in Ghostbusters, right with Melissa McCarthy that Ghostbusters, the good Ghostbusters, um was so freaky and she did not recognize me from this close, So you know, and Grantly Phillips. We worked at Largo. So that's how I got this gig. I think on Gilmore Girls, I'd like, I'd like for you or someone to clear up an issue, but we could do that later. I would love to just follow your lead. But don't let me forget to say. How did I get that gig? I think it was Grantly Phillips. We'll talk. Oh no, no, we can do. Let's go, let's chop it up right now. Let's go to it right now on another podcast. Again, I only listen to I have all in, so I don't know what goes on in any of these other shows. Your time wisely, you've got to use your time, you know what. That's only so many hours in a day and so much uh so much bandwidth on my iPad from nineteen fifty. So that's why I you know. But here's what happened. Grantly Phillips, the best trooper or ever he he and I worked together Largo. Thank you Flannagan for that opportunity to work. Largo is a club on Fairfax Avenue. In fact, in correct, you only because the original Largo was four three B two North Fairfax, So you're totally correct new is on La Sianga Largo dash l a dot com thinking to find out what they're new. Okay, oh yeah, it's been a little while. But that's where I met Grantly Phillips, the super hilarious, the super charming and humor as he was both charming and humor capital C capital age and so we knew each other from there. We were in shows together. I opened for him. Uh. The first time we did Naked Trucker Live at Largo was in front of Grant and that was Flannagan saying, only Grantly, with his sense of humor, will appreciate the Naked Trucker show as an opening act for his show. Grantly Phillips right. And we also opened to the Palace in other led places no longer there for Grantly Buffalo. So I think I owe it to Granently Phillips. He said that they wanted maybe and again someone could correct me the either one of like Robin Hitchcock or Richard Thompson to be the second triper, like an actual musician, like an actual performer, like an actual person, right to do it. And I think that didn't happen. So it might have been Grantly uh saying why don't you get grewber. I think that was it, now, did did you? I mean I assumed you had some kind of a a presence in the Hollywood firmament. Uh, you had a reputation. People knew your work, people knew who you were, so it wasn't there yea. Indeed, Scott, we were super lucky the Higgins Place Grouper was in New York. But then when we all moved out to l A, we were getting in parts like I got the part of hippie lawyer on a Drew Carey show stuff. So then we still kept performing though Scott Live. We played every single place in l A. Dave Higgins, Steve Higgins and I played every single place at accept, the Comedy Store, and the Improv. So but every single other place you could play we played. So why not there? Why not at the improv in the comedy They didn't want us? Uh at the comedy store and the improv oddly enough, because we did some improv comedy as well, they were like, nah, will pass really really? Oh yeah, but we were three people. I think they didn't want to give out three drink tickets, is what I think. You know what I mean? So you were right to all the friends that would show up and so so so you had the benefit of being very memorable with your voice and your look and your humor. And casting directors or friends of casting directors. You came and see these shows that you know, this guy is exter exterly hysterically funny. You can't forget him. Why don't you go see him? Maybe cast him in that film or maybe is that how it happened for you? Just like a little bit of that. Yeah. In fact, um, let me just tell you to take yourn. You mentioned the voice, so I can share this with you. Uh. And and one one set up story. One kind of really funny story. It was just weird and it happened and someone might have seen the second thing we did. Um King of the Hill had a character called Appleseed, right, and they said, get Gruber, he can do this character. It's kind of a hippie crunching organic guy, right, And sure enough I showed up in four of those two Scott four count them. I guess that's my number. Any show Scott, They're like, don't give Grumber five five. He's gonna you know why, because he's it's it's too much you're gonna take over the show. That's the problem. Maybe that's it. That's it, because I'm telling you you stole this episode for me. I was just I was floored. I was absolutely floored with the with the hippie stuff. And I say, nobody doesn't like that. I mean that is that's like the genuine article. So were you so listen? I mean you must have been and still are. I mean you were in You're not old enough to be an original hippie? Right, No, in fact, I'm two months older than you. I was doing some reading up on Scott Patterson, right, my new favorite podcast host. No, I was, I'm two months older than you. So okay, So you know what, In fact, Scott I worked at. Did you ever go to Glendale when you're in l A? Visit Glendale? Um? Ish, that's a good way to visit Glendale. I actually been there. My wife's brother used to live there, so we would go there. Yeah, I Glendale. Yeah. Well, you know what, one of my first jobs. Our original comedy group name is don't quit your day job, so none of us did when we first moved to l A from Iowa, and so one of my first day jobs was education. Aid in a middle school in Glendale, right, Wilson Junior High at the time, And and that we just started doing all the comedy we could from there, right, And so yeah, I forget what I was gonna tell you, but it was super important. Okay, let's let's get in with the Gilmore stuff. The first season one, episode one, God, really do what do I remember you in season? In season one? Anyway? The second Town Trooper? How did you get the role? Well? Yeah, how did you get the role? You think you think you think it was But you had to come in an audition, right are you? Were you just offered the part? I think I might have been off of the part or auditioned like don't mess it up, one of those kind of things, just so you know. Scott, for example, I did audition for the part of Mr Rosso and Freaks and Geeks, but I had to go in. It was written for me, basically like we need a hippie counselor for the high school. And so I believe Second Trooper or I had the great recommendation. I'm sure it had to be grantly looking out for me and saying, you know what, if you can't get a real musician get a pretty good fake, one good grouper. So I have a feeling that's what it is. And maybe they had me come in and just read it Scott, I don't recall like and just if he doesn't screw up, then yes we'll give him the part. It might have been like that, right, right, right? So do you remember your first day on the set? Uh? No, I do not, except remember the first phone call I had with your amazing team there, and they said, what are you gonna sing? And I go, I don't know. I was gonna see going down the Road feeling bad? Right, Oh? And I remember what I was gonna say about Wilson Junior High. So going down the Road feeling bad it's a grateful, dead cover of an old timey folk song. But then I had this long conversation with the music clearance team, and boy, you want a busy job music clearance for the Gilmurg girls. Are you kidding me? Right? That would be like the busiest job ever in show business. They're delving, They're delving into every genre of music pretty much, oh my gosh. And it's just it's endless between Grant Lee's original songs, whatnot and just all the songs and all the artists you've had on and so I'm sorry, I gotta flashback real quick. People, when I was working at Wilson Junior High in Glendale, and again you and I two months apart, my friend. All the students would ask me, hey, Mr aland are you a hippie? And I would explain, well, I was ten when the hip these were getting hippiefied, So yeah, I embraced the hippie gig. But no it was not. So that clears that up. I'm gonna say it was Grantly Phillips. I'm gonna say I don't remember my first day on set, but I remember a day with Jamie Babbitt when we get to that episode. Okay, so right, well that this is the episode, this is the episode week this is you with the the the the the open air market, the vegetable moment was that and that was Jamie directing that. Okay, I love everything about Jamie Babbott. Let's just make that clear right up top, okay. And then she said the most gil More Girlean thing to me that I think in those four times that I visited, I think I ever heard. Um. It was some complicated scene. Maybe a jib shot or something like. Something was going on uber at the focus of it, and she took me aside, super quietly, super cool. Did not bring this up in front of the other in front of the writers, in front of the producers, in front of the other cast, and she just quietly said to me, Gruber, doing great out there. You're like real supportive, you know what I mean. Scott's just all about you know, you're doing great. Everything's cool. Could you tie those lines together? Because I was doing these sort of pinter pauses William Schattner I don't know what I was doing williams Chattner thing or Harold pinter pauses, and she just quietly said, Grouber, you know, it would be great if you just pull those lines. And I go, oh, you mean, like every line ever said in a Gilmore Girls episode. I go, thank you, Jamie got it. I'll do my best. And it worked because that, you know what I mean? They all flowed beautifully together because you were very smooth in this. That was that was the sensation I was getting listening to you. You're acting. It's so easy to sit back and listen to because it's so smooth and cool and funny. Thanks, you really stole this episode. You're seriously without without overdoing it. You know, the writing is super strong because it all starts with the writing, right, you know. But then I gotta say Jamie because she was so cool about it, like I could have fought it, like I'm gonna do it, by the way, and she's like, just try this. You know this. I think she even said it was one of those things where you give the actor a choice. And so Jamie really came through for me and then set me up for the next three episodes after that. You know what I mean that I was in you, but thank you for your good words. Oh no, there was there's no other option but to do you know, to to string it all together. I mean, yeah, taking a pinteresque pause no oh no, no, recommended the time for that. Uh So, your relationship with Taylor Dosie Michael Winners did delightful. It wasn't he What was your off screen relationship Like, did you guys click right away or what was that? Like? I think we did. You know what I looked to him? He liked you and many of the others in your cast as an actor actor, right, so you know we just kind of talked about that kind of stuff, you know, like, hey, what have you been in? What are you doing? How's your Because he's an actual the interactor, is he not right, he's a big, big classical actor. Yeah, yeah, so we I think we talked a little about that and Scott, you know what, if there was podcast at the time, all I did was talking with your cast about what they were doing. So they were always happy to have me and let's have some fun. But when you set off screen relationship that was the same unfixing geeks to where I just wanted to go, where are you from, what are you doing? What's your gig? You know that was because I'm always curious about people and want to learn more about them. So I'm sure I just found out, Oh he's as cool as he looks On dav with Michael, Um, how would you describe the character of Taylor Dozy? And I described the character Taylor Dozy? Oh wow, I don't know that's I really have nothing for that. Um kind of uh, you know what, maybe a fly in the ointment that a bit of a gad fly, lovable gad fly. He certainly had his opinion of you, that's for sure. Oh my gosh. Yeah, not pretty thick, I mean he uh. He referred to you as the long haired freaks of van Halen hair his her suit hippie rapunzel. I think there were a couple of van Halen hair he called you, I think two or three different names in the town hall meeting in that episode. It was hysterical. What's funny too, is that by doing van Halen hair he gets he gets, you know, one point for that, because if he's talking to David lee Roth van Halen, then yeah, man, I'll take it. That's a nice you know, it's a nice head of hair at the time, right, you know, I kind of apology Matty hair here right now though, um Dwayne Johnson hair right here. Check out the buddy between Johnson kind of yeah it is. Yeah, You're you seem to be very similar to your character and Gilmore. Are you always this happy and cheery? Just like just like your character in in in the show. I would say this in front of other people because I love other people, and I love my friends and I love my family. I would say yes, I am that cheery and positive in person. When I'm by myself, I get all bummed out and I deal with all that stuff later. But in a seriously answer to your question, I would say the second true but or is a direct sort of projection of what my real life is around other people. I'm happy and I try and make that situation happier or more positive. You can talk to my ex wife and some girlfriends in my life and they'd say, wow, I did not see that guy. That's true too well. Certain people, we didn't even meet that guy. Certain people bring out you know, they bring out different energy and you you know, it's like if you connect with people, then it's wonderful, but if you don't, it can get a little Yeah. Um, so what was it your favorite character to play on the show? From that you played the proprietor, the minister and the second Troubadoor was the favorite one? Was it? Was it the Troubadour second Troubador. I think he was the second tributor at the very first appearance because it had that crazy town Hall meeting. Uh if you remember that episode. Um, I actually grantly and I write the Troubadour via Troubadour, we actually link up at the end so we don't fight. The fighting is over right, Taylor is his decision has put aside and we are together. So I would say, just that it established that this guy might come back, Scott, I would go, let's go with the first first appearance of the second Troubadoor, because it just set the pace then so I could open my vegetable stand home grown by the way, right, those are all mind supposedly grown. And then if you remember, at the end of that episode, he goes off to Palestine in isdriel Is to try and solve some problems. There was a great line to the drill, I'm gonna plant some seeds, spread some peace, you know, this kind of thing. I laughed so hard. I laughed harder on your stuff than in that show that was You were my biggest laugh in that whole episode. That was just thanks pleasure that I couldn't understand why you weren't in more episodes. I mean, you just told me four and I was like, what, my god? What were you just not available? I'm sure, Scott. The other thing I must tell you about my career is, oh, I'm available. I'm around. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say no, I was available. What I mean, you know what it could have been let's discuss something here. You know what it could have been. Because I was doing a little reading, trying to prep for my time with Scott right my new favorite podcast. Um, I was I'm a tall man. So here's what I heard. I think you came in at number three of the tallest of the casts, a shrimp. Are you're rocking six two? Where are you going? Six one? Now? I'm I'm like six one barely, okay, so we'll give you six one right, rounding up. And then I heard ed Herman at six five five and Jared six four or six five? Yeah. Yeah, So here's the thing, I'm six five. I think it was I was too tall. I think they said, you know what, we'd have to frame this differently, Jamie Babbitt and Amy when she was directing the episodes, She's like, I don't think we can fit him in the frame, right, I don't think. I don't think maybe maybe that's it. I don't think that they they managed with ed Herman, they managed with Jared beautifully. I don't think that's ed Herman with a jip shot. Yeah. Angle. You notice all the Herman scenes are wide angle shots. Noticed that well, you know he yeah, yeah, maybe I just I'm not I'm not buying that, you're I had the best time in the Gilmbo girls, I'm not kidding you, right. Evidence treated me super nice and it was super fun, So I got no complaints at all. It was it was the time for me to do first things too. When I did the Minister. If you notice in that scene speaking of jim shots and whatever aerial shots, I walked all the way from the back up over the gazebo, through the band right down those stairs. It was the first time, Scott that I got to use one of those ear pieces. I don't know the term for them, but it was I think it's called an earpiece. Okay, I think that's what they Professor Fression names apiece. And I was, but it was that's executive producer. Do you know? That's exactly different things too when you're on set all the time and here and so that's what happened in that scene is people were talking and I could hear the dialogue going, and I'm like, oh, man, don't mess this up. And you play guitar right, your guitar player right, Okay, So I'm like, going, is that the right chord? I don't want to mess this up. I have lines to remember. I need to sing the song that Dan wrote, which is a nutty song by the way, one of my favorite rhymes, because you're a songwriter, A don't you dig this rhyme? If you remember the song? It was about toys and love being like toys. Okay that the ministers saying. Remember that? Okay, yeah, and so um here's my favorite rhyme from there, Barrel of Monkeys, Your Battleship Sunk Me? Please recall the joy? So the song that the minister says was about, uh, when kids you play with toys, right as an adult you you switched to love and you love is the game is the sweetest joy of all? Or whatever? So I just love. I think Dan wrote that Barrel of Monkeys, Your Battleship Sunk Me? Please to recall the joy one of my favorite weird rhymes of all. What Barrett monkeys Wait? Let me let me let my craft sing you ready, barl of Monkeys, Your Battleship Sunk Me? Please recall the jewoy who wrote that. I think it was Dan Palladino, Not sure, but I think it was his. Does he write songs? He writes songs. 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Did they make it on the show? Oh yeah, oh yeah, I guess you gotta know somebody. Huh. You know what you guys, did you not have your song portfolio on set? What's wrong? You should have had it there? No, no, no, no. I used to jam with Grantly Phillips when he was on set. I used to jam without you know, we had a good time. Um now never, I never. Yeah, that's God's I didn't know Dan wrote songs. So those lyrics, lyrics, he wrote lyrics. He didn't write two songs correct, Just so you know. The the song that I sing in partings, Yeah, that that is my original song that well with a couple of other folks from the old Macred Trucker days. And that is an original song. So it's called Tears in the Grease Paint. So when you hear that song, it's a real song. It's out there somewhere, tears in the grease paint. Heere's in the grease paint. Yeah, the line was nobody laughs at the clown when he's crying. Is the the hook to that. Nobody laughs at a clown when he's crying. So if you look up tears in the grease paint, second troub or Naked Trucker. You'll find that out there somewhere. Beautiful song title beautiful Tears in the grease paint. Right, it's a little Smoky Robinson tears in the clown. But you know, yeah, can I ask you your question, very little Smokey Robinson? Um, I have to clear something up, but only if it's if we're good on your time? Are you good on your yes, you can solve an issue. Some of your younger listeners might know the show Love, also a Netflix show, by the way, Okay, I might know the show Love where I played basically myself, getting back to that with my Steve Banos playing Frank. Steve is an actual actor like you and uh, Michael Winslow and stuff or Michael what's his name? Michael Winslow, Michael Winter plant of a demostake, Michael Winters. Steve bans is an actual actor. So he and I played Frank and Allen on the Paul Rust show Love on Netflix, right, and that's something you can see. It's out there, it's on your Netflix and it was a short two season, so it would be a great bench watch. I'm gonna encourage that we shot an episode at the Oakwood Apartments. Did you ever stay there, Scott? No, I drove by it every day to going to work, though, of course you did, right, And I've got somebody on the Gilmore's cast stade at Oakwood because, yeah, so we're shooting an episode outside where we're on the roof of the Oakwood apartments that you drove by every day, and they were shooting the the reboots, right, the four episode reboots, And is there an episode that has like fireworks or go crazy? Yeah, So here's the thing. Talk to your people, talk to talk to your fans, talk to your fan base, and say whatever that scene was, whether it was I think there's fireworks or explosions or music or something going on. We were filming a scene on the roof of the oak Wood Apartments and here was a line. Just tuck this in your you know, in your book of stuff about Gilmo Girls. The line from our I guess it would be first Dad, right, The line for our first city would have been hold for Gilmore Girls, Hold for Because we'd start the scene, Scott, and there was like it was flashlights. It was at night, right, so we're flashlights and gun play or knives or something, and it was like, Okay, we gotta sneak up on him. It was like one of those things being super quiet, and then you'd hear, hey, something going on on the Warner Brothers lot and the first dad would go hold for gil Muo girls and they were not happy about them. I think I think that was the wedding. I think that was the way of the wedding cell, the little wedding something maybe. And there were yeah, there were all kinds of things going on. Yeah, there was no gender revealed. That was before that. Yeah, that's yeah, that's before yeah, right, But so Scott, whatever it was, it was funny because it kept going on. You know, they had you guys had to reshoot whatever you're doing down there, and we're just trying to get the scene done outside on the top of the Oakwood departments, and the funny line were just laughing old for gil mug Girls, old for girl muggirls. Man. How many people heard that over the years, right, especially especially on the Warner Brothers Law. It's like, then, again, Jesus, we have the whole you know, we had the whole back lot. So a lot of people had to hold Phil Gilmore girls when we were shooting right, if we're shooting at yeah, exactly. You have the whole back lot. You pretty much control the studio. Um, that's great. Um, Hey, I like hearing that you jam. That's pretty cool. I love that a lot. What he's such a great songwriter and he's such a great performer and singers. He's so got everything. Let me let's take a minute in praise of Grantly Phillips and played in craise of men. Um. Here's the thing, everything about him, his voice, his character, his personality, his songwriting, a bill, his guitar playing. It's crazy good. So I can I can share. Here's another here's another gils connection to Uh. In the episode Partyings Right, Marylynn Rice Scott appears and she's also singing right. So she was part of Girls Guitar Club. Her and Karen Garret had a duo that played at Where Largo. Okay, so we all knew each other from way back when I remember shows that Grantly Phillips will put on with Mary Lynn Rice variety shows where I was. I think I was the fake warm up guy. Uh Scott. This is going deep gruber, but I had a character. It was a fake warm up guy named Todd Carlin, and it was he was supposedly like a nephew of George Colin or something, right, so there you go. Um, But I think I played Todd Carlin in the Grantly Phillips and Maryland Rice scob variety show at Largo, so I knew her from way back then too, you know what I mean. And Grantly and mary Lynn we're friends and put on these great shows, hilarious, musical everything you want all that. Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go down to Nashville and write some songs with some some artists down there. Um, and I'm gonna you know, Grants down there, and uh, I'm probably gonna I'm probably gonna hook up with him. And maybe you know, I'm I'm terrified or performing anymore because I don't know that I'm very good at it, but it just terrifies me to to to to sing and play the guitar. So I don't know if I'm actually going to do that part of it because they want me to play at the Bluebird and put on a whole show. But I mean, I toured four years ago, and I you know, when you do that you're kind of rock solid and you you get all your confidence going and it's easy. But man, it's been a while so I'm terrified of it. So anyway, but I'll hook up with Grant when I'm down there. Do you know what, You get around to him and you can get back to there, you can get back to their right well, yeah, I mean it takes a lot of practice. You know, you just got You just have to put the time in, that's all. And at the time is something I have very little love. This show has blessed Bliss blissfully taken over my life, which is unexpected, but it happened very quickly. But anyway, so share some of your other, uh fond memories of being on set with on Gil. Did you have any scenes with Lauren? I'm gonna say no, anything went no you did you at the cash register? Okay? Remember you ordered? Yeah, passing. I would say there's no big old, no big old scenes because it was mostly with Michael Taylor. And I'm gonna say that was the most because those were the uh the standoffs, you know what I mean. And then that crazy a fond memory was the what do you call it? Uh town hall scene? Because that was all my favorite people in one room making funny comments and stuff. So that was pretty great. You guys came in late, by the way, that was part of the stick of that one. But even like Mike Gan Dolphie, who I know from the l a commedty scene he was in the room. It's like, oh my gosh, all these cool people, all my favorite people, and a very nutty scene. By the way, Grantly also one more thing in praise of Grant, he really took his acting seriously because I remember being there, and you know Gruber, he's a bit of a goof. I mean, I get worried and I get nervous, and I try and memorize my lines, and as per Jamie Babbitt, I try and put it together. That's the key to get put him together, put your minds together. But I remember Grant was really trying to get it exactly right because it was a big scene for him. You remember, you know, he had mines, he had had a close up. He almost had a close up. They had to punching real close to him when he woke up and he said, hey, you there, you know, and he and he had a whole deal and he played that little little couple of bars of a song and it was just good stuff. So that was a super fun memory. And then let me take you to uh remember I mentioned before that we had a comedy group when we first moved to l A. Steve Higgins, Dave Higgins, and I called don't quit your day job. Another of my day job, believe it or not, was a bicycle mail messenger at Warner Brothers. So they had a weird call for it was like open call for like people to work at Warner Brothers. And I go in there and the human resources guy, I don't remember his name, but he was so nice because he hired me and I got to work in the mail room and ride a bike around. This is an old this is old school days right way back when when I first moved there eighty six. But so then to come back there all those years later, right and perform at the Gilmore Girl on the Gridmo Girls, It was like, yeah, I remember riding a bike pass here to mal Passo Productions deliver something to Clin Eastwood or you know what I mean. Yeah, I remember we're staying outside of Ellen de generes Uh studio where she and mal passed us right across the street. Oh there he goes, you know, and we had some time. We're so so because we were working on that sound stage right across from al right, across from mal Passa when we're doing the Red right we that's the sound stage. We were on one of the sound stage. We had a couple of them, and uh, I kept trying to, you know, crane my head around to see if I could, like, is Clinton there? And I was gonna walk in. That's hey, big fan. I mean with Clint, not Allen. But you know, you know what I mean. I understand. All right, So we're gonna do rapid fire. Okay, have you heard about rapid fire? I have not heard about. Do you have a seatbelt? Happy to do it? I understand the idea of rapid fire. I mean, buckle up, here we go, ready, But guess what's got I will say this. You're doing rapid fire. I'm doing a slow motion, smooth grouper. You actually highlighted my smoothness. So whether or not the whether or not the responses or rapid I don't know. But you may run. You know, you do your thing? Do you thing? All right? How do you take your coffee with half and half. Don't you mention that can you smell snow? Can I smell snow? Uh? Hopefully not. Let's put it that way. I'm thinking of a Frank's episode. So there you go. And these next two questions, I'm going to eliminate them from rapid fire because I'm tired of asking them. So I'm not gonna ask you these questions. You can substitute two new ones. I will kay, okay, ready, what kind of do you shampoo? And conditioner? And just shampoo? I go shampoo, and can't you tell conditioner? And you know what I do, Scott, I beat the system because I go Upscale product. I won't name it, but then I wait till it goes on set, so it's Upscale hair carry products, but then are only on sale. So both I go both. Who are you rooting for in the Super Bowl or did you care? I did not care because the Green Bay Packers were not in it. So as a guy born in Milwaukee, I have to by law, I have to root the packers. I would have gone bears because I grew up in Illinois. Yeah, Danny, ELSs go pack go. You got it, all right? So that's what I would say. If the Packers were in it, I would have rooted from them. You're a cheesehead. I love it. Uh. The show that you're binge watching right now, Uh, you know what it is, and it's it's kind of funny because there's crossover. I'm gonna call it crossover. The show that I probably watched most of all because I don't have Netflix. I have a iPad from Y three, so all against is those shows. Um. The show that I've beene watching is All In with Chris Hayes on MSNBC. I never miss it. It's called All In with Chris Hayes on MSNBC or what they like to call m s LSD. The opposition calls it MSLSD. Anyway, probably more than any of the best memory of Gilmore Girls. Best memory of Gilmore Girls was the spreta Core. I don't want to get all French. Don you get all French? Just get all French. I gotta drop, I gotta drop some French spree to Core from the table reads to you know, costuming to Dan Pelladine or writing some goofy lyrics that he wanted me to do, you know or whatever, was like, Wow, this is. And here's the thing, because you've heard the Scott before, where you go something something is a well oiled machine, you know whatever, some show was a well oiled machine. This was not a machine. This was an organic, breathing body of joy that that show really was. Okay, it was all that. So what was the question? Didn't I answer it? You did? Okay? That was I mean, it was best girls, but you gave an overall impression, which is even better. Yeah, I think was my overall impressure. Okay, good, all right, listen, buddy fantasy. We're kind of at the end of it here, but I would love to have you back on down the road. You're you. You were a lot of fun. I had so much fun. Scott, thank you And what a great what a great opportunity. Thanks for making this happen. I'm so grateful. When you get to Nashville, can I do one plug for a friend. It's not a product, it's a friend. Yeah, sure, always, always when you get to Nashville. He's an amazing guy. Oh when you know what triggered it was when you mentioned Ellen, right, because remember Ellen, they took over at some point, didn't they of of some of the stuff on the lot there right and the parking, am I right? People? The parking they took over all the parking Ellen de generous right, oh right. They came around and did they built grand stands and they did they did shows from the sets of different shows. Yes, yes, So here's what I want you to do, is uh, I want you to look up our friend Ben Jaffee. I'm just gonna drop a name, like, you know Ben Jaffee. Do you know, uh what does he do? Musician, songwriter, amazing human beings? He you know, the Ben Jaffrey that I know is on the East Coast and he's a he's a drummer slash attorney. Oh wow, which is also very cool, by the way, very cool. That's a super cool thing, this Ben Jaffe who spells it with one e at the end. By the way, it might be different than than you're Ben Jeffe. But he is playing with Casey Musgrave right now and he's in Nashville, Tennessee. So I would love you know, I'll try and make it happen when Scott gets there. You should get together your jam, you play some music and there you go. I'm just dropping that because I know you would be cool. Yeah, I'll you know, I we'll check in with my socials and the show and all that. I'm going down there. I'm gonna be down there five days. There you go. It muld be enough time to see what he's up to. I mean, I'll be busy, but you know, I'll need to eat and stuff, you know that kind of thing. That guy's got to thank you, Scott for everything. It was a pleasure anytime, and be well my friend. Hey, by the way, one more thing, because you don't ask it anymore, Can I slip this in? Uh? People were talking Team Dean, team whatever. We don't want to go we don't want to go there. No, we're not going there. I'm going Team Danielle. I don't leave it at that Team Danielle. Yeah, Danielle Romo, You're Danielle. There you go, Wow, there you go. So thank you. I love Team Dean, Team Logan or team alright again. I only mentioned it because I'm switching that. I'm gonna flip the script on that whole gig. And since Scott Rapid fired me, I'm just gonna say my party flought Team Danielle. She made this happen. She made this fun time happen. So thank you, my friend. All Right, babe, you're the best man. Alright, buddy, be well, okay, okay, you too. Thank you, dot hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and Emailie at Gilmore at I heart radio dot com. Oh you get more fans. If you're looking for the best cup of coffee in the world, go to my website for my company scott ep dot com, s c O T t y P dot com, scotty p dot com Grade one Specialty Coffee