I am all in a kiss you. I am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody, we're back for Christopher Returns. I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All In Podcast with iHeart Radio and one eleven Productions, and we are going to discuss a I mean, just what a what a what an episode? I mean far talk about fireworks in the Gilmour living room. It was like an m m A fighting there amongst the high i Q set. You know, it was like whoa takedowns all over the place and got physical. You got physical with what's his name? Mr? What's his name? Mr? Hay stro Beaden, What a name? Loved the name Strobe. I mean, it got physical. Richard in in his guardag he stood up like a grizzly bear, uh and just grabbed that man, tossed him out of his house defending Laurel. I what a what a what an episode? My god? And scene was not okay, that was upsetting. It was it was very upsetting. But yeah, the whole thing was upsetting. But Emily, I think Emily tried to save the evening for poor Rory in the kitchen. Was it was kind of heartbreaking because I've never seen Emily that vulnerable where she's just like, my god, what what? What? You know, the trauma that this child must have gone through as a result of perhaps Richard and Emily's actions towards their daughter and then through through the years is now getting you know, that same behavior is getting on Rory. So I think she felt a little guilty about it. Yeah, that that was a nice scene after the scarring I experienced from the scene before Goodness Christopher returns. Boy did that? Uh man? That guy, he just came in too hard and too fast with the marriage thing. I wanted, you know, It's like, oh, that was aggressive, I thought, so do like, like have a plan, you know, have a like a six month plan or a year plan. You've been out of the picture for sixteen years, and like night one, was it like the first night or the second day or something. He's like, all of a sudden, like I want to marry you. I was like, what a clumsy dude. So much happened in that episode because they slept together too. Sorry, sorry, I don't want to I don't want to hurt you. But didn't bother me. Really didn't bother me at all. Now I underd I understood, I under stood why that happened. I tried to. I think I was so overwhelmed by it. I just attached myself emotionally and just sort of went straight to the intellect and tried to reason it out. And you know, yeah, that's of course that's going to happen. Entirely predictable. It had to happen. Um, And it did. And I was kind of glad that it did, because if that didn't happen, then maybe they would have gotten together. I think the very fact that he pushed it to that degree and was so aggressive as the thing, you know, that was the real flying the ointment that. I mean, we all knew that he was being too aggressive when he made the move on her in the kitchen, and she she protested very strongly, um and said all the right things that you're not ready and you're not ready for this, and you don't know what this entails, and you have demonstrated no ability to make that level of commitment as a father or as a person or as a friend. Um well maybe not as a friends, but as a father. And and she was she was nailing it all over the place, and and just the fact that I think there was a part of her on that balcony that said, this is the last hurrah. This isn't the beginning of anything. This is the end of something, and I'm gonna just get it out of him, gonna let him get it out of his system so that he goes away, because once he gets that, he's gone. He's not the guy. He's not the forever guy, and he never was, and she knows that. So maybe there was a part of her deep down that knew instinctively that, you know, sleeping with him wasn't going to be the biggest mistake in the world. It was going to be the thing that really cleared him out. You know, maybe there's a part of her that that knew that, you know, I don't, I don't want to. I don't. I don't think she's that cynical in that moment to sort of consciously be aware of that and saying, oh, you know what, I'm gonna do this and then he'll go away. But I just think it was somewhere underneath there. Yeah, I thought it did work because if that scene was so overwhelming with the fight that it just seemed like it was such a mess, and they were probably also hurt that it was like it did feel logical, like okay, yeah, now they're going to be on the balcony and like do it. And it was like, wow, this is this is very fiery. Everything's fiery. Now it's like, oh sudden, It's like it's like really interesting. Say yeah. It was the most dramatic sort of scarring scene we've had so far. It was it was it was ungilmore like almost because it really it was. It suddenly turned into a drama. And you know, some of the greatest lines so far in the season, so far, the episodes I've watched and what what is that? Thirteen thirteen Now we're up to um we're all the little quippy lines between Rory and Laurel I with all the tension, like did you just curtsy? Like yes, my lady. It's hysterical stuff like Roy didn't know what to do so she curtsyed. And the presence of Mrs Hayden. She's so amazing in this episode because her awkwardness is so like accurate. It's just like she doesn't know and she does that scene where she says, strobe mr YouTube there you two there sitting there, yes, and then the fight was so ugly, but so you know, the most heartbreaking thing about to go when Christopher arrived or now I'm sorry, after he left, how vulnerable and how much Rory wants her dad back in her and it's so heartbreaking, so heartbreaking that her mother has to be the bear of bad news and you know, him showing up forced her to, you know, kind of break her daughter's heart again because she has this hope, and hope is the thing with feathers as we know, um, as we are learned in school, and you know, I I know what that is, and that's that's hard to deal with that when you're a teenager wanting a parent to come back, it's hard and it colors your whole life. And it's exactly why she failed. This is exactly why Rory didn't thrive. I think it contributed mightily, um because she's got that whole insider. It's kind of amazing she didn't turn into uh well, I mean, you know, kids make bad choices when they have that whole you know, it's a mommy hole or a dad hole, and they you know, they drink and they do drugs and they do all kinds of extreme behavior to sort of field that hole. And and I don't know what Rory did after she graduated from Yale or she just doesn't really get a career like we expected. But we can talk about that. And Ma gets exactly because that scene, that scene when they're walking back up to the house after Christopher leaves on his most motorcycle and she's so hopeful, like maybe he could come back mom, and like, Rory, you know, it's not really, He's not the guy. And you know, you know, she was trying to just let her down easy because she knew in her heart he's never going to be that guy. We can talk about this in a minute. But no matter how sweet and and and correct, the scene is with Emily and Rory where she's saying, none of this is about you. There's no way a sixteen year old kid does not make that about them. That there's almost a fist fight because she was born and she ruined him going to Princeton and Laurela having It's like, how do you not internalize that? There's no way? And that's it's also why the same token Christopher probably has been failing because he I mean, if you're that guy, if you have the weight of that DNA on you to go to Princeton and you don't go, you know, and those parents, are you kidding me? I'm surprised Christopher is doing as well as he is. But anyway, we'll talk about this in a minute. So these are three people caught up in this maelstrom of uh expectation and tradition and higher education that they none of them, the only one of them will follow through and we'll see how far she gets. And this, God, you realize in that scene, the pure dysfunction actually of this family. Well you know, the pain, the deep seated unspoken pain that came now it comes out. I mean, now it's all hanging out in the open now, all the dirty laundry being here. That the deep pain and was one of the most um I mean, if you didn't say think that ed Herman was you know, a cop drawer actor. I don't know why you would think that, but my god, did he dis He displayed some range in this episode, especially that scene in the in the in his office with Lauren. Yeah, just remarkable stuff and heart wrenching, and you see how deeply it affected these people. It really, you know, it really humanized Richard for me, and it really humanized um Emily. Yeah, because they really went through it. My god, the disappointment was so deep, so deep. Um. But well there you go. If you express it repeatedly, it's going to have an effect on people and make them want to stay away from you, where you're going to have to bribe bribe them back into your lives and for Friday night dinners and private school tuition. Well, let's take a break and bring in our guest. All right, I think that's what I happy. Anyway, we'll be back with our guest, our surprise guest. Should we name him? Yeah, that's a good one. Mike Gazalf, who had a couple of lines in this episode. We're gonna talk to him when we're back. Hey, Scott, how are you doing, Mike? Thanks for coming on. I'm glad you. Uh. I enjoyed the show and I thought I was glad to be asked. Thank you so so you. Mike Gainsolfie have been nominated or a Golden Globe Award winning Comedy Writer, Peabody Award, Emmy nomination for Rosanne Dennis Miller Live Veronica's Closet, Mystery Science, three thousand later with Greg Kinnear. Oh my god, I had no idea. You never talked about this. I keep all that hidden by just being so so bad on as Andrew that I hit all that other you know, I hit it all under the rest of it. But yeah, no, I started and been I've been a stand up comic and a writer. And then whenever I know there's a camera on me, except for right now hopefully, I always just went on camera and I just panicked. So it was just like, you know, people who I thought would go, oh, we know you was a writer, to go just just go back. You're You're perfect behind the camera. Stop ever just being on camera. And so I just you know, So I've been writing everything. I mean, I've wrote before, and I wrote sort of during and I've spent all of I wrote three pilots during, um you know, so far during COVID, and I've got two more I'm working on now and just trying to sell those and selling screenplays. And I'm and that's how I That's how I spend my day. So you so you got, well that's terrific, very productive. Um um so you got so you knew Amy and Dan prior and that's how tell us how you got the role. I've worked with Amy on Roseanne in the beginning. When I got hired on Roseanne, she was already there, so I knew Amy. I worked on three or four of her different shows. Worked on a show with Daniel on called Over the Top, and then we worked on Ronica's Closet together. Amy and Amy and I worked on that, and then her next show is Gilmore Girls, and and you know she didn't need me on that show. But one day Helen Pye, who works behind the scenes married to the real David Gelski, uh said I said something about can I say some lying about thanks Luke, and will you stand all night in the snow? And I went, sure, I'll do that, And you brought me coffee and they love and Warren snow when I was on, and they made me get my sag card for that because I've done a couple of little lines on other shows, and I went, well, you no offense, you made me get my sag card. Can you just throw me on the show but once in a while, And they went alright, as little as possible, which is how I like like. It was usually something goofy like you know, I warn a that army costume to uh Amy's and Amy had a party, and also at Amy and Daniel's wedding, I wore this army costume, so they said, we want you to wear that in the dance Marathon episode. So that was filmed way on the West Valley and it was like a hundred degrees already and I nearly fainted wearing that wool suit and to pull me someone had dragged me to the fan to get me revived practically, and then they stupidly, Uh, not stupid, it was actually fun. I took Amy to a beakroom class, but beakerm was still a thing you're allowed to talk about, and uh, she said at the end of the class. She said, the whole time, I just thought, how can I kill Mike and DOLPHI and that Bellary Campbell said. Bellary Campbell says, because of that, but she made me, uh have to be topless in the art episode. So that was responsible for my being in the statue in the art episode. So there's always something goofy like that. Otherwise, as in town meetings, and you know, I saw the uh I couldn't sell it. Oh e ed to Christopher because he's card got declined. But it's just little things like that that I was doing in the show, in town meetings and things like that. Um, so that's so you and Amy and Dan go back aways. Yeah, that was. I was friends with them and went to their wedding. They went to my wedding. Um, we've known each other many years? What was what was their wedding? Like? It was actually a swing wedding, you know, like you like that's why I was wearing a nineteen forties army costume and they were you were supposed to. Uh. The songs were all sort of swing dance songs, although I couldn't. I think I I think she got us all lessons one or two lessons, so I went to one one dance lesson and then swing swing danced is that the right term? Or swung dance? I don't know swing danced, but yeah there right, Yeah, there's a swing. There's there's swing music sort of. There was song I really know would be Take five. But that's it was kind It was fun talk about how difficult it was. What were you in any episodes in season seven? No? No, but you watched the episode you watched the episodes, you watch the whole series. I know, in fact, that's been funny that I hadn't even watched this episodeuntil I watched it for this because I only saw my part. Whe I knew that I declined Chris's credit card, but I had no idea that they I don't want to give him any spoilers, but we're talking about the episode that they didn't know they'd slept together later in the episode. I thought that would have been a perfect way to run the show, is make or give birth to Chris's second kid, and that Rory and the second kid could have been sixteen years apart. She could have been friends with her daughter and friends with her second daughter. I had a whole different direction for the show. Yeah, that's that's a different direction for sure. Wow. So, UM, tell us a little bit more about um your experiences. Well, so what did you think of the writing? What do I mean, why do you think Well, let me ask you this, why do you think it worked so well? Why do you think that writing was unique onto any other show? For from season one through six? I think Amy Amy writes really well and really like even on Rosanne, she she knew what she was, what she was writing about and who she was, and just made the stories really personal and and had the emotions down better than anyone. And and she just got the personal connections that you know, I just I've been a comedian. I just wanted to write jokes like I just wanted to, you know. And then the Kangaroo one and you go, alright, everyone laughed and no one cares, all right, and you know, and like I grew up in an emotionally stunted family, so we didn't talk to each other. So like, they're doing emotions and I'm like, what are people doing. They're talking about their feelings, like I don't you know, so she but she got that. So all the connections of things and me. You know that in every episode they're connecting as people and there's emotions. You go, ah, if I had those emotions, I get it. And as a person, you know, I watched it. I understand what you guys are doing. So but she just got that edit than anyone. Unfortunately, you're a robot comedian didn't understand. But I mean, but look, intellectually speaking and emotionally, of course, you can appreciate it. Yeah, very much. And I got I got all that right, and you under and you understood how difficult it is to create that many very unique characters, distinctive voices. You know, there's so many, I mean there's thirty or forty eplodents. It's unbelievable. And I also know that how much how much writing she did, because the scripts are half again as long as a normal script because everyone's talking so quickly, and and just that she got what was an eight page script, any script. Yeah, yeah, it's just amazing to get all that and feeling and talking quickly and the things that happened where it's just it's brilliant. And I felt badly that to go back to the art episode, that's the only episode that won an Emmy was the makeup and costume for the um for the Festival Living Art, where you know, Amy and certainly Lauren and you and Alexis certainly should have been I'm much more acknowledged. You know, that's the way life is. But you know there's also on the c W. I don't know if that had anything to do with it, but show do you think that was I mean, obviously the work was there, there was no question about it. And I've never seen the episodes, I mean, uh, and now that I'm watching them, I I I am continually shocked that the show was overlooked for the performances. So why do you think that was? I don't know if people only treated the big networks a certain way, and I mean they certainly cable network. Cable shows were winning Emmy, So I don't know why on the CW couldn't be acknowledged as a great show. Because one time, I I think it was in Luke's in the diner, I was law Lauren had a scene and she was doing just talking right to the camera, but I somehow set up said the line before that, so I had to still be in the room or something, and I just watched her talking to camera. I thought, first of all, I'm never gonna be as good an actor as Lauren Graham. But she is so good that I can't believe everyone isn't aware of this, like the just the way. I don't have an answer for why there was it was overlooked. The writing was overlooked, the acting was overlooked. It's not a crime, but it's a crime. Do you do you think it's because it was just too family orientated to light to might have been. It might not have been edgy enough to it's like two family friendly almost, which is, you know, great for ratings and ads and commercials and that kind of thing, but too safe sweet Yeah, like yeah to to not someone's dying or someone's you know, there's not a zombie going to come out of nowhere some weird reality. Yeah, it wasn't edgy. I don't know what you know when people go, I'm writing this edgy show about these people who are bitter and angry, and it wasn't. It didn't have that. It had a sweetness to it, but it's hard to say when people you know, obviously people love it now and you know on Netflix that's obviously very often watched. But it wasn't. I don't have an answer for why people watch what they watched and that it was. It was unfortunate because it should have been more acknowledged. Then it's one of those things. Yeah, Um, behind the scene politics that we're unaware of. You know, what's what's going on behind the curtain there? We will never know. Um, So let's get a little bit more specific. Let's talk about the scene where Christopher comes in and gets his credit card declined. Do you remember that scene? Can you tell I do, because I remember panicking that they wouldn't know one would tell me how to say Billy Credup's name is Billy Credib? Is a Billy Credib there? Like, I'm like, I have to say. This is gonna be on film for the rest of my life. Can you just tell me how to say Billy Credup? No crude up, crude up credup? Just okay, now I have to say his name and and uh but but I just had to tell poor David self his card got declined. I felt awful for him, and like I knew that I knew it was sad, and I knew that it really was an ox indijection and they're not heavy, but it was like, I'm like, they couldn't just giving me an empty box. I'm holding the forty pound box for five cakes Like you gotta keep it real man, Yeah, I keep it. How bad is it when you see an actor handling a full coffee cup and you can tell there's nothing in it, or a suitcase with nothing in it when it's supposed to be heavy as the how every birthday present isn't really wrapped you just pulled the top of a box off, and he went, someone couldn't at least put it pieces gotch tape. Uh No. And also I'm not a good enough actor, so I needed them to hand you a real box, so I would have in fact, wasn't. When your uncle on the show died and we had the little Marching band and I was playing a drum, we went up to the thing and we had to play play a thing. Kurt played the trumpet, Shawn Gunna play the trumpet, and I was playing a drum. And the first take I broke the drum and I go, I've broken the drum. Can you give me another drum? They went, you don't have more drums. You have to think it. So my hand kept going through the drum skin, and I'm like trying to remember where the top of the drum was on camera. So we don't have another drum. Uh And I do not remember that episode. My god, you'll you'll get to and you'll see you that I broke the drumhead of the first take. Laugh. So what else can you remember about that episode? Since we're discussing Christopher's return, what can you remember that? Because you had really the that was that the only scene you had only seen I had, and I was I was with Jackson. The whole time we were talking, most of you were goroofing around, who I love. I love Jackson. I don't know if he's done in the show, but he's great fun and uh so we were goofing around, laughing and then comparing whether he was Billy Crudup or Billy Crudup and and then he uh uh. It was actually one of the shorter days because usually I've done the show and I was busy talking. You know, a town meeting would be twelve hours, so I was like, I'm gonna hear it only for two hours? What do I What did I do with the rest of my life? I thought I thought I'd be there all night. But it was just a fun quick day and I got to do my little uh credit card decline, which you know, somehow people still remember that about me, that I had to decline Chris credit card. Well, it's nice they remember it because the acting was good. Because you were so sensitive and you you're sitting here trashing your acting ability, but you you knew to not say it, even in a normal room tone. You whispered it to him because you wanted to spare him the embarrassment embarrassment and that that made people love you so well. It was just the funny party I wanted to the opposite of Usually a lot of TV shows, certainly was a lot of sitcoms I've washed in life. Would he'd got on the microphone and go, you know, price check on the O E ed you know, and I went, well, how can I do the exact opposite of that? So I and I didn't mean to trash all my acting abilities, just that I never thought of myself that, you know, I'm like just having to be on the show and goofing around. But it was just just a you know a little fun thing on what Well, I'm not gonna go Chris, your card was declined exact opposite. Um, you know, maybe sure the second take, Um, but you handled it with real Uh you're a real gentleman about it. I mean you, but that's the small town value that that viewers expect, like you're not gonna embarrass somebody. But it would have been funny. It would have liked you very much, but it was it was a great choice. Um, what did you think about Christopher's character? I thought he was great. I I because I hadn't watched I hadn't watched the whole episode, and I hadn't really watched a lot of the episodes, you know, like, so let's think about your show. And I know there's the other show of on on Clubhouse about John Colbert is watching the shows and for the first time, it's kind of funny to watch them and go, oh, these are great, not just the ones I was in that I saw my card, but I see the whole thing. But I missed in the first time, and I had nothing to do with me watching all him myself. But but it was so well put together. He's such a good character that you wanted more of him, and you fully understood why he couldn't keep being on the show. But it was just like all the moments and you know, like I said, they're sleeping together and it should have had a second kid, but just even not showing up for you and just oh and then she came back to the dinner that morning in her pajamas. I was just like, Oh, everything came together. I don't. I just am so impressed by how the show came together all the time, and it didn't break your heart. But it broke here. It it got you, like, it just grabbed you. That's why I finally, you know, I see all the time on the show. Yeah, poor pathetical Luke. All right, I'm telling you that, Eide, I'm telling you, Mike, that episode let me up. It was such a rama rama. Don't you think it was a little it was a little Telemundo esque. Not the Telemundo is bad. I love it. I love those the passion of those of the writing and the acting. But I mean, it really was. It got fraught with you know, there was physic physical almost physical violence. There was confrontation. There was was gonna punch a guy. He was gonna punch of It's gonna Deckham. There was it was, it had I don't I don't even know if this makes sense, but there's it just kept it kept moving and kept raising the stakes and everything kept happening. And I went, how did this show not how did how did Christopher Returns not be an episode where people turned it in and said, this is an episode that you should watch and this should get an Emmy and people should know these characters and then and love this show. And and it certainly already had its flooting it. By the fifteenth episode of the first season, it was just it was all there, all the Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I guess we'll have to do another seven seasons and drive the point home. What do you think where Amy can? Amy can? Can she call? Is she gonna? Is she gonna? She has your number? Tell her to tell him? Tell her? You're ready? Seven more seasons? Seven more? So okay, so let me let me just ask you this because I like to ask this question and because this is really a fan generated question. So this is from Sarah um from Little Rock. She wanted to know, Mike, what is your favorite memory of Gilmore? Well, I tell the story. I feel like I've told the story a lot. But the disaster of having to remove all my body hair for the art episode was does That was the nightmare. If you don't mind, I'll tell it one last time. But because I where's the camera like I have, I'm not lacking in body hair my arms, you know, so I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do because I've never removed body hair. So they say, well, you can do a lot of things, you know, there's waxing or shaving or whatever, and they, so I bought a bottle of nare, which I don't know if anyone knows this. It's not pleasant, but hang on, so it grows you on the bottle. It was near neat. I don't mean to single out one brand. There was a brand. Yeah, So I put a little bit on my arm and it tells you and then you leave it for five minutes. You take a wash off and you wipe it off and then it works and if it works, they go, great, you're fine. So it works perfectly in five minutes. So I then cover my arm and neat or near whatever it is leather arm and of course it makes my apartment stink, but no offense to their brand. And then I wipe wipe it off and it's but I had to do my entire from the waist up. Well, since I did it all it was it made my skin like burn and bubble and scab, so so I couldn't And then this is like just before the episodes taping it, so they told me to come in for a makeup test to do the white statue makeup. Well, I had nowhere in my body that didn't have blisters, so I couldn't even make the test, so I'm like, I don't know what you're doing. I can't do, but I do have no body hair from the waist up, so at least I've got that. So I finally like, I have two or three more days since from the makeup test of the day, I'm taping the show and I take the show. It was a Friday night, but it's my call time was basically twelve thirty Saturday morning because they're gonna shoot till like six in the morning on Saturday morning, and they have to paint me with first white paint and then black paint and make it marbled. And it's but I can't, Like my skin is kind of repaired, but it's not really repaired, like it's still blisters. But they can't. They can't. It's freezing. Also in Burbing that maxis a dessert and it's I'm but they can't move in by a heater because they'll make the paint melt and they can't put a jacket with the jacket will take the paint off, and they can't put anything on me. So I'm sort of freezing and and I'm I'm painted. It took like two or three people to paint the white and then paint the black and paint the marbling, and then I have to wear a I wore a head thing, so and I go, I I swear I'm not a diva. I swear I'm trying not to be high maintenance, but I couldn't. I sort of stand by a heater just enough that the paint doesn't mount, and they're like, no, because the paint will. I'm like okay. And then they finally shot my shot um just before sunrise, like you know, I get like five forty five am or something. I finally do the shot and they let me warm up by eating the chili that was on a craft service, so that was they did help out um, and then it took like an hour for them. It took like two or three people to take baby wipe, to take all the makeup off and so but oddly it's one of those things that was moderately unpleasant time and yet now it's the greatest memory to have been. But it was what did you do? I think that's when Cambell said. I got that because I took her to the beacrom class, so otherwise I sat in town meeting. So really it was a fun it was a fun, fun memory to do something different. You know, you break up your break up your memories by having something fun, right right, right? Um, this is a little segment we do where we use one I want you to use one word to describe the following characters. You ready, Okay? Here we go. Uh Luke? Uh god, I want to say no no cell phones. He was the boss. He was it's a boss. Look at yeah. Alright, but you ran this, I mean you were. You didn't run the town because that was tandard, but like you, you were in charge of like the different attitude. You know, even in the reboot when you're like talking about the floaty hut and you're yelling and like you when we were, people are all voting on who to do things that it's our relationship, dot yours, not yours, not yours, not yours. Don't mess with Luke? Alright, you like it? Uh miss Patty? Oh? Fun Christopher? Oh he couldn't declined? Taylor Dozi? Who Taylor Dozi? Oh? Yuh surly bad bad wacky Laurela the sweet I should have all seen you sweet for her, but she was so earnest Kirk, there's there's a hyphenated offbeat. Uh, Mrs Kim rigid in her beliefs. She has some from right and wrongness rules all right? Now, So now, Mike, we are entering our rapid fire the evening. Yes, are you ready? So I'm gonna fire some questions at you and you answer them best you can. How do you take your coffee? Never had coffee in my life? Can you smell snow? Yes? Are you? Team logan? Jess Or Dane asked, why not? Who's the daddy? I'm going Paul. Everyone forgot about Paul, and I think even Rory forgot Paul was the dad Paul. He was the guy who was forgotten in the episode that every forgot he was dating, and he was she dated him in the reboot and and he was there and they all forgot he was even the person. I say it, that's perfect. I love That's the best answer I've heard, you know, Ted Ted Rooney gave a really great answer because he just said, I don't even want to get involved in that. It's creepy, but but that was really good. Paul Um, we already answered this best memory show you you're binge watching right now. I'm just keeping up on it. But Ted Lasso is great and some going back and rewatching him. So Ted Lassett cast member you texted most recently probably Reney Bell, but also they weren't cast members with the real Dave Dawski and I are friends, and his wife, Helen Pie, we're friends. And you know Helen Pie's name is the anagram for help alien. Oh really? Um? Are you familiar with the creepy clown pillow? But I want one now? Um? You know what I didn't ask you. I want to ask you, so that's rapid fire, but I didn't ask you. How would you describe the character of Andrew? This is another fan question. This is the uh Corine Karine Karine from Salt Lake City. Okay, well, it's difficult because I I actually worked in two bookstores in life, so being a bookstore employee, I totally got but I and it's not as my own when it really the reason Like in one of the episodes when when Jas was first introduced, I said, my son said he set off the fire alarms at school. And I had a son that has just appeared. So I had a son, So I don't know about that. I mean I had the UH and I had the girlfriend in the dance episode who we got to fight because she dated Liam Neeson? But I, I wait a minute in the script, yeah, because I I screamed, they said they set it up, and Andrew woids a fight with his girlfriend at the dance marathon and then we get to fight. Me and my my date in the episode Lisa, and she said what I don't I forget what I said, but to b and I said, no, I can't stand Liam Neeson. And I left because apparently my date had once dated Liam Neeson. But but you think would be a more of a story. You're almost a whole spinoff shell right there. But oh, so you know I had I had the one date ever leose. So but we've got in a fight, and otherwise, you know, he was just as the town meeting guy in the bookstore guy. So I tried to give him some some gentle sweetness. But otherwise I don't I don't have much more backstory for him. Who are your big influences as a writer? Who did you who did you Who did you love growing up? Who did you read? Who influenced you the most? Well? I watched way too much TV, so like I love David Lloyd who's the guy who wrote Chunk as the clown the show there's a clown episode of Marytime to more episode? Like I wanted to be David Lloyd. I wanted to write sitcoms and write jokes and even as when I did comedy, when I did stand up, I you know, I I was fine, but I really was sitting around going, well, I'm doing stand up hoping someone will see me, and saying, you should be writing on a TV show. But that doesn't happen when you're in the middle of, like doing a show in oh Claire, Wisconsin. There's not gonna be a producer going what are you doing here? Go? You know? So um, you know. I finally got myself to Hollywood anyway and did it myself. But I just always watched TV shows like it was sort of weird. I went to I went to Kaddy because I was a little kid, and one time the teacher said, you can't just spend your time watching TV. And I was a little kid. I was being a wise guy but sort of meant it. I went, what if you want to work on TV shows? I guess I don't have an argument for you, wise guy, but you know, so so I was watching TV show with my like nwe like David Lloyd, who you know writing TV sitcoms, and Bob Ellison was the the guy who wrote on Marriage, how to Moore and wrote sitcoms, and I'm like those guys. I wanted to be like them. So those were your favorite shows? I mean I watched them all, but I you know, I loved all in the Family and Marriage had a more Bob Newhart did I say that twice? Um? And you know, but I wished happy days and work in Mindy and on and on through through all the shows. And then when I got to work on Roseanne, I went, wait, I'm I'm writing on the number one show. How can I when I do? I'm writing on his TV show? And so you know, it's it was kind of a fun getting to do what you want to do. And then I now, now I sit and write scripts. And but what was she like? What was Roseanne like to work with? I loved her like people. It's weird because she knew she knew her character so well that the writers would be like, here's a joke. She'd go, now, that's not I wouldn't say that, and then they'd be back in the room going why mun't you do the things we're writing, And I'm like, she's not wrong. She her character knows. She knows that she wouldn't say that, so I like, it was weird that people would complain, but I went, she knows the character better than we do. No offense. But so if she says, well, I wouldn't say that, she wouldn't say it. And that's but it's mostly the best lesson I learned was her name was on the cover of the script, so everything dealt with how she how it affected Like I just talked about that the other day to someone that Dan and Darlene fighting. They could fight on any t show, but on Roseanne, their fight was how it affects Roseanne. So it made you remember the show is through Roseanne's eyes. It's through a way of seeing the show through the stars, saying not just a family sitcom and dad and daughter are doing this and dad wants DJ to be this. It wasn't it was how does this affect this? The star of the show. And it's sort of a good lesson to remember how to write characters, and even as a joke, right, it was much easier write for a strong character like Dennis Miller than it was for a a guy who just goes send me some jokes. You go, I don't know anything about you, so how you just wanted to say something wacky and funny. But it's easier with a character like Dennis Miller or Roseanne right who they are. Once you know who they are, it's much easier and much more fun. Anyway, it's been fun, and it's really been It's been really great catching up with you, and we'd love to have you back on. I can already. I can hear the producers laughing through the whole interviews. So but I'm glad it's talk to you and enjoy enjoy washing the rest of shows, and I'll come back anytime you need. All right, buddy, be well, good luck with your projects. Let me know how I can help in anyway, and uh, definitely, and we'll be in touch then. Okay, all right, Well that was fun. That was Mike Gan Dolphie. It was great having him on. Hope to have been back on pretty soon. Um, so we'll be back after these works. Yeah. We are joined by Lauren Wong, who is the CEO and founder of Flex. Lauren, can you just start by telling us what is Flex. Yeah. Flex is a brand of sustainable period care products. We have a few different products, from Menstrel disks to Menstrel cups, flushable biodegradable wipes and foaming washes, all our plant based. I've heard of these the cup. If I'm going to be on us, but I'm a little nervous about it, can you explain what it is, how it works, the benefits of it, and maybe ease some of my nerves? Yeah, totally. Um. Well, our first product was actually the disc because we heard lots of that feedback about cups. People were afraid it would get stuck. People are really afraid it would be messy, but they wanted something more sustainable than their traditional period products like tampons and pads, and so the disc was designed to be the first single use products. So it's disposable, but it can be worn for up to twelve hours. It's never been linked to TSS and you can empty it on the go, so it holds up to three super tampons and you get hands free emptying when you go to the bathroom and your pain. Um. It empties itself in the toilet and you can keep going about your day up to twelve hours and then when you get home you can remove it and toss it, so you end up using six less waste than traditional period products. You don't have to worry about, you know, and saying out a cup in a public space, um, And that's our best selling product and it's been out since UM. In the cup, I get it like they look kind of big and intimidating, UM, but I promise you that they fit. And our cup was actually designed. It's the only product in the world with a poll tab that was designed actually for beginners, for people to be able to remove it similar to a tampon, so that there's less waste, and it helps alleviate some of those concerns about it getting stuck. And why was this company something that you felt was important to create, Why did you want to create it? And what is the benefit to women? Yeah, well we sell products to all people who went straight UM. And for me, I was suffering from use infections for fifteen years and I ended up trying period products from all over the world trying to solve the problem because a nurse practitioner told me I was getting use infections from my tampons and pads. Also, we're pretty disruptive to my skin. UM. So I wanted to create a brand that would co design all of our products with real customers and co design the products to solve real problems that I hear from people like odor, leaking, cramping, you know, concerns around sustainability, as I said earlier. And because we're co designing our our period products of real customers, they feel real benefits. And I think that's why the brand has been so successful to date, because our products are patented and there's just nothing else like them on the market. It does sound like a dream come true. I just need to give it that chance, Like I can do this, I can do this well. 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Because um, we need to improve the instructions, you need to create more content on YouTube, we needed to build a team of flexperts, of people that could be there in real time to like help troubleshoot and answer questions and give people confidence that they put it in right because I'm sure once you do it, then you're good. Yeah, once you do it, then you're good. So if you want a period product that looks out for your body, your lifestyle, and the planet, you've got to try. Flex Flex is innovating period care with products that are body safe, made for comfort, and made to keep you moving. There's the flex Disc, which is one time use menstrual disk that fits perfectly inside your body. One flex disc can be worn up to twelve hours and folds as much flow as three super tampons. And if you want to go zero waste and have the planet will love you even more, pick up the Flex Cup, a reusable mental cup that Cosmo rated number one with helpful videos, in depth diagrams, even gifts and flex birds available to walk you through the entire process. You'll never go back to products from the past once you try Flex, so say goodbye to cramps, put sex back on the table, and lend mother nature at hand. Go to flex fits dot com slash all in and use code all in for off Flex disc starter kits or ten off your first Flex cup plus free U S shipping. That's code all in at flex f l e x fits dot com slash all in. Let me tell you something that Mike Gandolfie is one of verbose individual with some excellent verbosity coming out of his face. Funny. That's a great memories too, great memories that guy, That guy, my god, now you know. Now it brings back all those memories of of hanging with him on the set because he was he was very quiet on set. He wasn't like that, probably because he just was so like happy to be there but didn't want to like overstep. He seems like that kind of guy. His nair neat story, it's just and he was so careful not to offend the nare and meet people. But he was using his uh, his his his hard, hard gotten, hard fought gotten. If that's a phrase comedy chops on the road doing stand up telling that story, man, because that's not your average kind of storyteller. Man. He had me in tears. He I couldn't even speak. I imagine how funny he is his standard routine. Oh my god, Yeah, he's great. It's just the quality of his his presentation, his vocal quality, the way he's telling that story. Well, that's the thing that I'm so excited as we meet these people, because even the small characters are played by these amazing people, and that seems like a very Gilmore thing. It is, what a funny guy. How do you feel about playing baseball or softball? I guess it was yeah. I mean I remember that day we we played far more softball than ended up on screen. So yeah, it was fun. And Kirk Kirk the heckler, the zero, so he referred to us as zero Luke and zero zero Dean and then he just ran away. Oh it's just classic that he was just heckling the crap out of us. It was so great. That was That was one of Kirk's finer moments so far. I think I kept noticing there was like a young girl. Extra. What's the other word for extra? Um? Yeah's extra the right word. I don't want to say the wrong word. But and she just was so adorable and kept just a straight face. And well he's doing that riving of you guys, and I'm like, God, the thing is, what is Luke gonna do? I mean, he's not gonna you know, he's not gonna assault him. All right, that's it. I've had enough. And then looking put a Richard Gilmore on him and grab him by the lapel. Maybe does any any television moment last? We haven't talked about that, Laura. I didn't show up to do the paint at the diner just to do the sprucing. Let me ask you this. Yeah, we'll get to that, but one minor and you know, you could you could just set me straight on this. You could settle my wagon on this one. He lives. I thought he lived above the diner, I know, and he was walking, Yes, why was walking in the early morning and opening up the place? What does he have to come down and around? But no, because later they definitely come through those stairs, you know, maybe who was Maybe it was an early morning walk. Yeah, I don't know that they realized maybe he was coming from laurelized house where he was in the bushes. He's looking in the windows like anyway that that's but I thought it worked for the scene for sure. Yeah, but it's a good point for like actual correctness. But maybe we don't we don't learn until later that because really that stands out when Jess shows up, When Jess's shows up, we really learned that they live upstairs, so we will wait, Oh, this is probably another answer. The fans already know and they're gonna shower me with emails like, dumbass, we already know this, and don't you know this? And Jesus do your research, your dumbass listen, I'm just watching it for the first time. Can you please spare it's a valid yeah, because if you've only watched the episodes we've watched, we don't really know where he lives yet. I think we're hindsight that we know later he lives up there. So why the hell is he walking down the side, walking on down the boulevard, keys swinging his keys? Am I messing this? Upper? Was there a scene where you were waiting for her and then at night? Yeah, outside your own diner. That's very dramatic when you just wait in the chair inside with a cup of corps, because it gave me the opportunity to act this finality of that moment and sort of go in and give up and locked the door. So that was more important than nosy continuity annoyers. You know. You know. Two questions. Was she wearing I Love Lucy pajamas when she showed up in the pajamas? Can we do a zoom in on that. I'm pretty sure I caught a glimpse of Lucy. And how did you feel when you realize she painted the whole place? He had already figured out that they had done the deed right, yes, because you already him that in not such a direct way. But that was when she was in the pajamas. He put two and two together. That's a that's a tough one. I mean, yeah, I recall really struggling with it because it's like, and you know, I mean, you talk about being at the bottom of of your feelings, they're in a situation. Mean, good God, how devastating that you know he came back and they slept together and he knew it, and it's just yeah, it's rough because it was right as Luke and Laura were having that that moment and then and then he comes in. It's painted or halfway or three quarters painted, and it's maybe all done. That's when you find out though, that Christopher is gone, because he said, where's the guy? Yeah, I had to play all that stuff. So it's like grief and devastation two acceptance too. It's like I had to go through the five stages, but it's like in reverse, like, hey, there's there's there's still some hope here, I mean, poor guy. Yeah, So it's Luke relieved to find out that Christopher has gone. Um, yeah, for sure, but now he's got to deal with the fact that she she went there with him, you know, so there's that the residual effects of that that are you known, have to clean up that mess because that's going to psychologically be I mean, it's devastating. Yeah, it don't take a while to get back to you know. Now now I think it puts her on different footing where it's like, Okay, you know, this train was going in in the right direction and it stopped and now it's going backwards, and maybe it's the train is he's taken out of service using a train analogy. I swear I won't use a tunnel. There won't be a tunnel on this analogy. She says when she's there in the pajamas, we had a date, and Luke says, it wasn't a date, it was it was just a thing. He's he's downplaying it already. It wasn't he's doing that protection. Yeah, yeah, I get why the walls are up. Luke has to have the walls up because look at what keeps happening. And I also think he's it's like, you know, he's judging. He's being hard on himself too, because like, guy, get in the fight, get in there and get with her, close the deal. What do you know she's moving fast with like all these guys, get in there, you know, be meaningful in her life, be impactful. So it's like it's it's it's yeah, I'm sure he's hurt, but it's I think it's really a wake up call. It's like, this is life and it's moving a little faster. And she's from Hartford and she's a country club check and you know she wants more than I have. You know that I have to offer maybe, so it's like, get in there and fight for her. I also think there's something to what you've said before about the risk it puts because of the friendship. And I do think she salvaged the friendship by sneaking in and painting the diner. She maybe didn't the relationship part is still screwy, but she definitely fixed the friendship by doing that. It's a good point, you know what we didn't talk about too much, and we did touch on it obviously with the declined What is going on with Christopher acting like he's successful kind of alluding to that with Richard clearly were to know that he's not successful because he couldn't even buy the dictionary. Well, he's you know, he's getting older, right, he's thirty two now, and he wants her back, like he said, he he said, you're you're the girl. I said, I've tried to date other girls and there's no magic, and you're the magic and you're the one, and I want you back. And that's why he couldn't wait, And he waited the next day said I want to marry you. So he's made up his mind. He's he's willing to commit to that. But now it's like it's a different equation as we've discussed. It's like, you know, how are you going to provide? Can we trust you? I mean it takes time. So he's treading water. He he really is. And I think his his latest debacle in California. He's hoping that she'll take him back and that Richard will help him out. Yeah. So I think that was all an attempt to reconcile and have everybody forgive and let's come back as a family. And that was his sort of master plan, and it wasn't well thought through. I'm nervous for the next I didn't night dinner too, because I don't see how you just bounce back from that hot mess. And wasn't it interesting how delighted the Gilmore's were, Richard, And I'm like, how delighted that Christopher returned? They were so they were on their best manners. They were just energized like I have never seen them. Yeah, why do they love him so much? Because he's the right stock, he's the right d NA, he's he gets it. He's one of them, And no matter how much he's failed or screwed up, Richard still thinks that he can, you know, Richard can easily guide him and give him a job, his insurance and set him up for the future and save his daughter so that they can all come back to the country club and have celebrations and birthdays together, and you know, I have a normal life. I think they there's there's still hold onto the illusion that Laurela is going to come back and be the girl that they raised. Yeah, and Emily tried to defend Strobe in that kitchen scene with Rory, and then she just says he's an ass And you know that redeemed her a bit that scene. But you have to respect a little bit what Strobe had to say. It was his opportunity to get it off his chest because he's been thinking about it for sixteen years. You just cannot even Strobe could not predict that he wasn't he had That wasn't premeditated. It just came out of him. Yes, the inappropriateness though that Rory was there was probably what was so, but it didn't matter. He couldn't control himself. He absolutely he probably wanted to and he probably discussed it with his wife, the Queen. Yes, she kept her mouth shut during that mass that she was getting ahead, but she did not look like she was looking forward to meeting to seeing Laurela. And right off the back lauraized making jokes and they're not they're not helping our out. They're just like you haven't changed at all having your Laurela. You know, this kind of thing. I think Strobs an ass like Stroub sucks. I want I appreciate your angle and wanting to sort of try to make sense of that. And then I just keep coming back to a lot of a lot of words we can't say on this show. One that starts with a d your father, you know, if I put that, you know, I put a lot into my son, you know, and and to see him growing and learning and it's it's a wonderful thing. And then at sixteen, if that was all derailed by a pregnancy, and then you still offered them the chance to, hey, you know, we'll support you. Why don't you get married and we'll support you and we'll and they decline that as well, decline um, you know, and then they go off on their own and and for the next sixteen years have these you know, these difficult lives, albeit you know, successful in their own what on their own right and that's maybe their path. But it's tough for Stroke, but it's tough for Richard, it's tough for Emily. It's oh my god, what they had and he was right. What do you know how humiliated we were in front of our friends and we still are. Families do have gross fights like that, They do expectations, and it seems like they were both only children, you know, I don't. I don't know that. Yeah, it's an only child you have. You have one child, you pour everything into her or him, and it doesn't work out. It's it's it's you don't have two or three other kids to lean on and go well, you know, and be practical about it and say, well, they're not all going to turn out, but if you have one, you expect that one too. I mean, you don't expect them to go off the rails like that. So I don't know, it's gonna take it can take me some time to recover from that scene. Yeah, I know, I was deeply I was. I'm telling you how I couldn't. I couldn't get to sleep. I was tossing in turn, my wife kicked me, and then you know what's just said would you stop? Would you still? Did you tell her why? But it was Strobe's fault. I couldn't. She would have laughed in my face, she would go. And then it is painful when Lorelai goes into the office and Richard says, like, I defended it because it was my name, and it's like, Richard, that's a real thing. That's a real thing, the Gilmore name. There's so many little things in that scene too. Did you see Christopher's mother, Christopher your tie, your tie? Like three times your tie, your tie, just like different world they come from. It's a it's all etiquette school for President Bush. His face is too tiny for his head. I've never noticed that about any Bushes. I Oh, you know what I wanted to know what you thought is when Strobe says a blue collar position about Laurelai working at the hotel. Our son was bound for Princeton. Well, and she was top of her class, as Richard said, So she was bound for Harvard, Yale or Princeton, probably anywhere she wanted to go. It bothered me that the blue collar one. And and Strobe says, you seduced him. Yeah, Strobe, Yeah, it's just a dad who got his face rubbed in it for too long, and he's he little lost control. That's his whole life. His whole life blew up in front of his eyes. His kid, his kid blew up in front of his eyes. He never accepted it. He never. I mean, I don't know what's going on. What kind of was it that Strobe and and the Hayden's and Christopher hadn't seen each other in sixteen years? I don't think so. I think he's seen that, he's seen them. It wasn't like that. It's strange that they have no relationship with Rory. Well, it looks like she hasn't really lost out too much love and affection from Strobe and company. Yeah, I mean, I do think you could argue, but I think Richard and Emily are good grandparents. Yeah, they're trying. Strobe makes the Gilmore's, Strobe and his wife make the Gilmore's look like amazing, wonderful people. I mean, they took it to a new level of yuck. Listen, this happened in my family. I mean not to get too personally here, but this this, I understand the resentment this breeds. Um My. My father, you know, came from a long line of Harvard men. He really did. And you know, his his family tree goes back to the signers of the Constitution and the signers a Declaration Independence, and you know all of that stuff. I mean, they're blue blood like you wouldn't believe. And he was My dad was the first Patterson male not to go to Harvard. He ended up going to World War Two, getting wounded and then going to Lafayette because he had to stay near Philadelphia, where his family was, because he had met my mother at eighteen, she got pregnant. He was twenty one, and they had they had, you know, he had to go to work. He went to college on the g I bill, and afterwards he went to work for Campbell sup in the area. He couldn't go off to Harvard. He couldn't go off to do the things that is. And he wasn't an only child a sister. Um. But I know what we went through as children, and I know what my mom went through in the face of these people because they saw her as is somehow illegitimate and the person that ruined their son's life, who had so much promise, and you know, he ended up being a vice president of some very prestigious advertising agencies. So he did pretty well. Did your grandparents forgives him? Um? Yeah. He remained close with both of them till they both passed. Yeah, I think they did, but they never forgave her, and they certainly, you know, kept us at arm's length. Yeah. Really, so I lived this, I know what this breeding and they and there were huge arguments Thanksgiving dinner at Christmas because we would go over there twice a year for Thanksgiving dinner and Christmas dinner. And my mother was very liberal and my dad's side of the family was not, and they would argue over the Vietnam War and Nixon and this, and I mean, and my mother would just pound her fist on the table. And one one year, Um, you know, she she said, we're leaving, Get up, we're gone, and we just wanked. So the takeaway is that scene, like you said, is accurate, shockingly accurate. Yeah. You know, that's probably why I bothered you so much. It really did it, it really really. I get that my dad was Christopher. Yeah that's painful, but he turned out a lot better than you know what I mean. I mean, he wasn't well, give Christopher a chance, right, But I mean, he wasn't this loser. My dad was a superstar, you know what I mean? He was a superstar and his chosen profession. Um. But yeah, no, it resonated quite quite deeply. Wow, that kind of hits me. That's why you tossed and turned. Yeah, I was, I guess I was. I was rory and weird, weird right. Yeah, I'm Riley and this is your pop culture for the episode fifteen. First off, we have Laura Lae It's been cold pop tarts for a week. It's like a damn Dickens novel. And this is when she's talking to Suki about how things are going at home with Christopher Scott. We all had a ten twenty minute argument over this line yesterday as we were preparing to do the show. The pop Tarts say it one more time, Riley, because I still am like get it. Laura Lee says, it's been cold pop tarts for a week, It's like a damn Dickens novel. When the when the boy asked for more porridge? Is that okay? So Riley was right. Yeah, it's like rationing. Please see I abstable. So. Charles Dickens was an English writer and social critic. He is known as a novelist of the Victorian era. Dickens was an outspoken, outspoken social critics in general, but especially about poverty. Charles saved multiple lives of friends and strangers after a train crash and interesting fact, Dickens had pet ravens and kept them around even after they died. Wow, so you know I used to keep around my dead snakes after they die. I had snakes when I was a kid, and they would die and I keep them in the aquarium and I would deny that they were and then my mom would say, you need to put them in a shoebox and bury him. Son said, okay, mom, Oh no, anyway, go ahead, Sorry, okay. Christopher says, well, I know you well enough to know that when you say no to coffee, especially in the morning, all is not right in Whoville. Whoville is a fictional town created by author Dr Seuss and how It grinch Stool Christmas Taylor Momson, who stars as Cindy lou Who and later goes on to play Jenny Humphrey in the hit series Gossip Girl. She she was a Wholl, She was a Who, and Whoville. She was the main who Dr SEUs has written and published over sixty books. And actually Dr Seus's friend bet that he could not write a book with just fifty different words, and that is how Green Eggs and Hand was born. All was not right in who failed? That was a nice that made sense. We also have another Christopher line and and you were the girl in the Pinky Tuscadero t shirt sitting right next to me and this is when they're sitting on the couch. So Pinky is a character from Happy Days and is the love interest to Fonzie. Pinky is played by actress Roz Kelly and Ross is also known for her roles in Star Ski and Hutch and The Dukes of Hazzard. Ros was sadly written off the series just after just three episodes, and she just never jelled with the cast. After Pinky Tusca Darrow left the show in season four, her younger sister, Leather Tuscadero, played by Susie Quatro, was on the show for a total seven episodes. In the Leather, Leather Tuscandero was way more my speed than Pink, get Leather was legit, Quatro had a couple of hits. Take a take a little download Susie Quatro. Yeah, that was legit. So we all loved Kirk's heckling. Kirk says, I'm dumbing it down for ulf That was the best line of the episode, by the way. So the original Falfa was played by Carl Dean Sweitzer from ninety nine. Alfalfa had a signature hairstyle. His hair was always slicked down, parted in the middle in a pointed piece of hair was sticking straight up. Ye, Laura, I says, my father almost hit someone. My father has probably only hit another man in college wearing boxing gloves and one of those Fred Murts pulled in gloves, pulled pull over sweatshirt. Um. William Frawley played the character of Fred Murtz in the fifties TV series I Love Lucy. Probably earned five consecutive Emmy nominations from nineteen fifty three to ninety seven. Sadly he never won. At least he got nominated. Geez, five years. Nothing can't be crying in his beer he got He went to the party five times, Kidney, I don't feel sorry for him, not one bit. William had somewhat of a bad reputation as early as Fraley had been fired from the Broadway show That's My Baby for punching actor Clifton Webb in the nose. People were different back then. It was a different times. Men punched other men, and the men didn't cry about it and call the cops. They just took the shot. Laura I says, that's not true. If Tony Randall could crank one out in his seventies, you have decades left to spawn. He actually cranked two out in his seventies, if memory serves well. His the first time he ever had a child with age any seven and then didn't he have an he had another one? He never he was married. Tony Randall was married to his first wife for like fifty years, and then I think she died. And then he married a twenty He was seventy something and he married a twenty five year old and they had two kids. I think, Yeah, the age gap was fifty years. He was seventy And why did they have to talk about I guess he did all the talking cranking him out, that's what they Yeah. Well. Tony Randall was a comedic actor, best known for playing Felix Unger on the nineteen seventy sitcom The Odd Couple, which they were not couple, so it's very fitting. Next, Richard says, I'm a Chuck berryman myself. Yes, Chuck Berry. He was all the rage when I was in school. So Chuck Berry was one of the most influential rock and roll performers in music history. He's known for songs including Mabeline and Johnny Be Good and Just Spite, an impressive catalog of cleverly written songs. My Daggling was Barry's number one hit single. The song tells of how the singer received a toy consisting of silver bells hanging on a string from his grandmother, who called them a dinggling, but the lyrics, with their sly tone and innuendo, caused many radio stations to refuse to play it. I Love I Love my Dagling. It was a hit. That's all we have for bob culture and dingling. Excellent, excellent. I can't wait to get my favorite line, even though you've already said it once. Yeah, I mean my off, just start my favorite Kirk's I'm dumbing it down for you, Alfalfa. That's the best, the best, the best. But did you just Curtesy shut up? Sorry, my lady Laura La. Although coincidentally I'm sitting across from an amazing Christopher Legram. Yeah. What are we watching next? What's next? Our next episode is episode sixteen. Star Cross Lovers and other strangers are at episode sixteen already. Yeah. Really, we're jamming through season one. Alright, kiddos. On that note, on that family friendly note, uh, what we bid you a du It's been another rollicking roller coaster ride off the podcast. Um, we'll see you next time. I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All In Podcast with our Heart Radio and one eleven production. See you next time. Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am all In Podcast and emailis at Gilmore at I Heart radio dot com. Oh you gil More fans. If you're looking for the best cup of coffee in the world, go to my website for my company scott EP dot com, s C O T T y P dot com, scott EP dot com Grade one Specialty Coffee