I am all in. Oh, just you, I am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, it's Scott Patterson and this is the I Am all In podcast I Heart Radio, one of them productions, The Ins and Outs of Ins. This is season two, episode eight seven. Hey I got it, Yes eight boom nailed it. Hello, don't have to redo it. Thank you very much. What an episode. This is my favorite episode so far. I loved just about everything about this episode. I was. I was charmed by the all of it. I was so moved and so charmed and so pleased by this episode. And I think it had Look, you know what I think really matters. I I think guest stars matter. Elizabeth Franz matters. She gave a brilliant performance in this and she was the she. She was the treasure that everybody was looking for for answers. You know, Emily went to her, Laurel I went to her, everybody went to her. And um, I just you know, I have never liked the characters in this show more than I liked them or love them in this episode. I mean, Elizabeth is Mia, the inn owner, just so everything right, Mia, the the who came into uh to drop in on Laurel line see how things were going, and then they got into the hole. Well let's get into it. So so I just I have so much to say about this episode. I loved it so much. I guess hello, Danielle Romo, Hello, Riley Pelusis Hello Amy Sugarman, and I guess Riley give us a rundown, give us synopsis. This is Season in two, Episode eight, The Ins and Outs of Inns air date November one. Laura, Lai and Suki have the first fight of their long friendship when, upon hearing that the Independence In may be sold, Laura Lee panics and decides that their shared dream of opening the End together is doomed to failure. Well, I'll tell you what, you know, there's far more meat on the bone than just that. But that was definitely the a story. Um, how does everybody feel about? Okay, so let's unpack this. So yes, uh, they go they you know, Mia shows up, drops in on Laura Lie say hello, and that's perfect timing because you know they want to buy uh, they want to buy that old what is it? The old Independence Center is the old Dragon Flying Rachel property. They want to buy the Rachel property. We don't know how much it costs. We do know that the independence in is five times as much money to purchase, so that's out of the question. If they want to sort of re tool that place or just preserve it and and take over the business, that's not going to be possible. Um. So they have this this ramshackle, broken down property on the edge of tail right, and they want to purchase it, refurbish it and open up their own business. Good for them. Mia shows up and they get into it and why haven't you know? Suki and Lauraa get into the hole nuts and bolts of it, and you know, you need to tell her that you're thinking about leaving this job. And then we find out that me is the one that took her in when she was sixteen with a little baby and took care of her and was her mother basically. And it was very deep rooted and very moving actually finding out all this information, all this expository and all this exposition in this in this episode, and then we get to the point where where Suki and Laura get into this knockdown, dragging out verbal It was. It was hard to watch because there's such good friends and it's so great together and to see them in conflict like that was was upsetting. It was it was truly upsetting. And I think, uh and I and it really hit me on a personal level when I realized why she was having such a difficult why why Laurel I was having such a difficult time letting go of the independence and after she realized, Hey, this is where I had, this is where I raised my baby. You know, this is where I came. And you know, I know how this feels because I just let go of my house of eighteen years and this is where you know, we have this is where we had our baby, and it affected us deeply to sell that house, even though it was time to go and you know, um and you know, get into a new sort of situation. Um. But it's deeply, deeply emotional and it was so beautifully drawn out in this episode. Um, I'm glad they kissed and made up. That's for But I think other highlights are, you know, the the arc that is Jess and what he's going through, and the chalk outline and the town meeting. I thought the town meeting was a little extreme, but until I realized how many incidents Jess authored in that town, you know, in a negative sense. I was like, I thought it was significant. Also because lor Lie it really was team Luke. She was stood up in front of the town two to have your back, and I thought that was that was major. And also Rory stood up for me to Jess like, don't you know this guy's just he's a pariah. Now I didn't think I was a pariah. I was always well and that worked. Suddenly the toasters fixed, Yes, suddenly the toasters fixed. He just got a kind of influence on him right away. You know, Milo knocked me out in this episode. He really did. He showed what a skilled, subtle actor he is um and he's just really easy on the eyes. I mean, there isn't a bad angle. And I just kept thinking, why didn't this guy become a movie star because he had you know, maybe he just didn't feel modern enough. I don't know was he kind of does he at that time? Did he feel like a throwback to just feels very James Dean right right, I mean rebellious and sullen and withdrawn and you know, soft spoken. I mean that's all very powerful. But yeah, I think he's become a huge star right absolutely, No, absolutely in television, yes, but not on the not on the silver screen. And I always wonder why that never happened. And I know that he I know that he had some difficulty after Gilmore and after Heroes, trying to get his own series, and you know, network executive saying to him, you know, you're just not the lead of a series. Sorry. Oh that happened to him a couple of times. And because what's so fast sinating is I'm glad you bring up Heroes. And then obviously this is us. He stands out in in an ensemble cast like Gilmore Heroes, this is Us. He becomes that shiny object. He really stands out in each of those projects. I mean, talk about if you were going to build an actor for stardom, it would look and sound and feel like Milo. It really would. Um. I love Jazz too, I love the character. I think the chalk outline is hysterical. That was hilarious, it really was, and so genius, like for the for the bad Boy, he's not actually ever really harming anything. I mean, I think when he stole the money that was probably not good, but the chalk outline is literally harming. No, one and hilarious because as Taylor Taylor at his best. I thought Taylor was as best and most frothy. I mean, it was just unhinged he came in the diner. I love that scene between Luke and and Taylor the most, the most. It was just such a grand scene. Um, anyway, got so much going on this episode. There's so many things to break down, because I want to hear you talk about more about Mia and Lorelei, Lorelize fight with Suki and Luke and lore Lye in this episode, and then all the way I want to hear your thoughts on Emily at the end. So I don't know where to begin. Just you know, I'm going to start with my favorite moment for Luke in the entire piece so far and all of the episodes that I've seen so far, I have not I have I have right commercial First, let the people, Hey, al right, I guess we should take a break. Huh. Let's take a break, and then when we come back, I'm going to discuss my all time favorite moments so far to date of for Luke. We'll be back after these words. Yeah, al right, everybody, we're back. We're gonna get into how I feel about Luke and and his favorite. My favorite moment, uh seeing Luca's when I really fell in love with the character and realized what Luke really is to that town and what he's capable of. I saw it in bits and pieces watching these But now when Mea comes into the diner and he sees her and he smiles, he lights up. He comes out from behind the diner and he gives her a big hug and he and he grabs her by the shoulders, says, so good to see it. It felt like a nineteen fifties movie where it was just this reunion and it was just for me. It was a beautiful moment, and it said everything there is to say about that character, her and really about her character about It's like her character was so beloved and so wonderful that she made everybody else look great. She elevated everybody's appeal. Um, So you know, guest, Stars Matter, I mean, you dropped that into the middle of Stars Hollow, and you've got to you've got somebody of the caliber of Elizabeth France, because if you look at a resume, it's filled with Emmy Awards, Tony Awards. Drama Desk Awards. I mean, this is a very very accomplished actress on stage, uh and in London, but all in New York on Broadway. I mean, my god, so important because if she's only had that impact on Laura la that's one thing, but we really see her quote power over stars hollow because of the impact she had on Luke. That's where you're like, oh wow, this woman is the town queen, the town hero. She's back and everyone loves her and she means so much to everyone in the town. I've never seen Luke look so good. I've never seen him so relaxed and happy. He was just filled with warmth and love and and just you know, and it's around Laurel. It's a little nerve racking for him, right, so he's a little tense, but he just he just relaxed with with Mia and not hugging that. Oh my god. I just I guess I'll say this because we'll talk about it many episodes. It's very interesting that they recast her with Kathy Baker later, So I guess, well, yes, and we'll talk about that many moons from now. But yes, because I thought she was so perfect, So maybe she was working or there's some reason we'll discover very much in demand theater actress. Uh. Anyway, Um, I've never liked Just so much. I have never liked Luke so much. I have never liked laurel Ize much. I have never liked Rory so much. I have never liked Dean so much. And I think the stars that Paris was not in this episode. I was thaying that, please don't enter stage left, Please keep her out of this episode. Can we make a note, just a note somewhere that we write down that I do believe you will come around on Paris. Somebody just write that down note today. I do think you will. But continue, it's just, you know, Rory's yogic like balance of her psyche and her emotions and her her her love and her warmth toward other human beings, and her complete understanding of where Paris is coming from and is managing her pain and is going to help her along her path. I mean, she's so much more mature. And I've stated this previously, but but just just to have a break from Paris, I think as a steady diet, It's like no, but you know, maybe in a couple of episodes on Mister and it will be really entertaining. But I would love to get your thoughts on something. And I find this to be well, I won't even say what I think I want to. I've got a couple more minutes. Go ahead, shoot away. So what do you think or feel of Taylor often referring to Luke as a young man multiple times? And I thought it was quite fascinating. That's just condescending, you know, That's all it is. He's just condescending to Luke and and Luke doesn't take the bait. And you know, there's something I agree with you that it's condescending and yet also endearing. There's something about so do you think it's father? Yes, and that he's known him Taylor right, Taylor's known Taylor knew his dad right obviously. And he made a reference to wait, was that Brian who's coming at you in the town meeting? Is it Brian Tarn? Do you know? Okay? He also calls him young man so and I thought that was hilarious with the two of them arguing because they who was born first and the whole, the whole thing. So I do think it was It's condescending yet lovely. I liked the I think it makes stars Hollow look like an even more appealing place due to the fact that Taylor would convene a meeting of the of the town of small business owners, of the business owners and you know, try to draw some resolution against Jess. I mean, what were they gonna do, like aust him? Are they gonna right? And then let's keep things moving here boys. You know, it's very It's just like, oh my god, this is not a meeting. This is a Thanksgiving family dinner. Luke wasn't invited. I mean, that was That was quite the Luke rant. That was quite the rant. It was great. That was That was a Luke rant, and it was It was a nice moment when Laurel I backed me up and finished that scene has to be so hard to do. I mean, it's all that dialogue and all those people and one person screws it up and we're back to the beginning. No, yeah, but that's not a big deal. That's that's not that big of though. These actors are so good that they don't screw up very much. Nobody misses the They all hit their marks. It was so much to work with these these these very talented individuals. They were you know, they were on their cues and that's not easy to do. I mean that back and forth, back and forth real quick, without any without any gaps. I mean I'm interested. So when you're doing, you know, doing a scene like that and everyone's nailing it, is it like the perfect tennis match or you know, winning a marathon some sort of does it give you that sort of like adrenaline and high like you know what? Yes? But do you know what it feels like? It feels like real life. It doesn't feel like you're in a scene acting. It feels like you're really this is really happening because every everybody's energy level and focus is the same. We're all on the same wavelength and that's what makes it all possible and it just makes it feel real. Wow, that's what it feels like, And that's where you're trying to get, you know, So there's some element and forgiving me fun crazy of like that Sally Struthers is bad Bette to you is Sally Struthers is bad bet Like do they as the years go on, do characters sort of blur with their their real life person? Yeah? I mean she's just so upbeating positive anyway. But as you saw in the Friends Giving, she's very introspective and philosophical, you know, extremely bright. Not that Bad Bat wasn't, but she was just a different kind of smart. Right. But but you know, Sally herself is so self aware and she's so studied and she just really knows who she is. And I think Bad Bad is too, just in a different way. Um, But yeah, but I mean, look, Sally is such a professional. She comes on the set and she's on and her job when she's not acting in between setups is to keep that place light. And I think the real theater professionals know how to do that because they want the set to not get tight or tense or boring or the energy low. They want to keep it up, so they tell stories, they tell jokes, they sing songs, They keep it up and lively, and they keep everybody happy because they want those They want the atoms to be flying around and everything positive. So that's when they do their best work. It's really making me want to know from you, what does it feel like to Scott Patterson that you are Luke like? Truly? For millions of people, you will never really be Scott You're always going to have an element of oh, that's Luke to them. I have that same thing with Sarah Jessica Parker, Like I don't really know where Harry Bradshaw ends and Sarah Jessica Parker begins because to me, I just worship them both because I love Carrie Bradshaw. So, like, what does that feel like to you, that like you are Luke. I don't know that you'll have another role that defines you. No, probably not know, most likely not. Um, what does it feel like? It's just it's just such a it's just another person. It's just a I don't know, I feel like an accomplished craftsman who crafted a character, and I feel like I did a good job so far from what I'm saying. I'm not like, you know, a percent on and there's some flaws here and there, but I don't know, I just feel good about it, you know, I feel good about it. I mean, I it's like everywhere I go, people recognize me and they're just you know, they get to have their I mean, there's a there's a girl that him who I do videos for her mother, sick mother up in Minnesota, and she they're just so nice. They come up and say, oh my god, my mom and I bonded over you, and she's not doing well and she's going in for a surgery and a procedure. Could you could you just say hi to her? Or can I take a photo with you? You know, let's let's so, I've done like two videos. Every time I go into gym, I'm doing a video for her mom because I want her mom to feel better. So it's like it's almost like this gift where you know, you can share this with people and it just lifts their spirits. I mean, nobody's coming up to me as Scott and saying, hey, you look like a real swell guy. My mom is not feeling well. Could you make a little video for It's just it's just due the fact that these people, you know, bonded over this show, and you know, it's it's it's a very it's and I don't want to sound too cornball here, but it's kind of responsibility. I feel a responsible I feel a responsibility to the fans. I do. If someone met you and then they walk away and they're like, Luke's an asshole, that'd be awful. That's probably happened a future maybe at the golf course. You know, it's interesting because only only two old men who try to steal my golf balls when I'm not looking. Then I'm a little bit like get away from It's interesting to think about because Milo really is Jess, but he also is the is the guy from this is? Uh? Now? For Lauren, I think she is Laurel. I like, even though she went on in Parenthood was amazing, I still am like, she's still Laureally. She's not getting away from that. You know about the girl from the Mighty Ducks, It's like, that's Laurali in the Mighty although alexis to me when I think of her now, it's hard for me to not think of The Handmaid's Tale because the performance is Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. Come on, Alexi's Middell is Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. Riley backed me up. First thing that comes to mind, I never never those I never saw those movies. Although I hear they're delightful. I wouldn't have even thought of that. To me, it's rory. But then the Handmaid's Tale is just if you haven't seen that, it is unbelievable. I mean it'll. But I think if you're handed things that are well written and well crafted to begin with, and you don't screw them up, you've got half a shot at leaving some what of a legacy, you know, behind, You've got a shot. And I think that's what happened here with this character and with other characters in the show. People are leaving behind a legacy for for people to hang onto. Well. I love that you bring that up, because in this maybe one of the reasons this episode is so wonderful is because we get a little glimpse of Luke as a kid, just with the Mia and Taylor and then the Star Trek references, Like there's just some things where we're like, this guy was a kid once, which I don't think many people think about because he's so gruff manly. Luke. Yeah, you know, gosh, it's hard for me to really evaluate Luke with this hard shell, you know. I just it's just how it felt. It felt right, It's just like this has to be, this is how it's going to be. This character came alive in me, and this was the interpretation. It's just an interpretation and different actors going to interpret it differently. Um but it's just how I did it and it's nothing like me. Well, there are some aspects, but it's but it's I can't evaluate it. I can't really I love his fierce loyalty. I don't. I don't know why. I think. I don't understand as well as fans, um are people that can be uh objective about it um as to why he had such an ympy so likable. Because I will say this, even though it's like a little bit embarrassing and I'm not fishing no, but this is what I will say. Twenty years ago, when I watched this show for the first time, it was like the ultimate crush on Luke and I think I'm telling you I think that I think a lot of puzz pause, hang on, we need to discuss I don't I still do, because you feel it's really weird. When I watched these episodes, it's not this same. I don't you guys don't good on Luke and I even now when I watch it, I still crush on Luke. Oh my god, somebody. I hope people defend me on this. I'm not saying I'm like, oh, I love Scott like it's like I love Luke, you'll covering her eyes. I would like to know that Amy's as red as her red sweater that she's wearing. I'm telling you the people look. I think I think I walked into something that was so well drawn to begin with that it was going to be very difficult to look bad in that role, no matter who you put in there. But I think I gave it a specific flavor. Somebody else could have given it another flavor, maybe equally as appealing. Who knows, But it just felt because all that comes to mind is Eric Sulton Back to the Future and it's it's so bad and Michael J. Fox is it one of my favorite movies of all time? And Eric stold. So I don't think that any actor can just nail apart. It's like, it's gotta right, it's gotta be a perfect fit. And I think right, I believe that. And I feel the same way about Lauren playing Laura Line. I agree with you. I agree with you. I think that was her role that she was meant to play. And I think Luke was my role that I was meant to play. Nobody else could have played it. Um and there you go. It's just I mean it's like you hang in there long enough, you know something might come. Can we talk about toaster gate? Toaster gate? So Luke working on the toast Do we need to take a break and then we'll talk about toaster gate. Yeah, let's take a break. You know what before we get let's leave the fans just panting with anticipation over a toaster gate. What could that possibly bring. We're gonna take a break. We're gonna tell all off. Everybody's taking a knee. We're gonna get some gatorade. We're gonna be fine. Alright, alright, al everybody. We'll be back after these words. Yeah, al right, everybody, we're back, and we're going to talk about toaster gate. Dubbed by Amy Sugarman. Uh that sugarman, sugar shock. Uh? Are you going to open that store? Are we do want to open that store? Su Amy? Sugar Shack Chocolate, Tory Chocolate, Arrian, Let's keep We'll keep trying. I don't know, did you say there's not a lot of money in chocolate. I think chocolate is a tough business, and I think it's it's a highly saturated field. I love asking you about money, particularly right now as Laurel. I went to Luke to learn about her LLC and all the right thing, right, building the moat around your personal money in your home toaster gate. Well, alright, so listen when when the young uns get taken out to the wood ship to get get their cane in. Uh, and they learned their lessons from their sore rumps. Uh. Then they come in and fix the toaster, but they don't tell you about it. They just do it grudgingly, right, and uh, you know, Luke was sitting there fixing a toaster. I guess Jess is some kind of mechanical genius because he saw that it wasn't working and it wasn't gonna work the way I was doing it because I was like jamming a screwdriver down. Yeah, well it was unplugged. I mean, I mean, I'm not an idiot, right, I'm I'm not gonna like, can you imagine that looks electrocuted or electrocuted. So anyway, Jess comes along Chris. He says, you're not doing it right. Whatever, And then then after his tongue lashing from Rory, that's what I was going to ask over his mischief, right, And of course Jess always uses that to provoke, and Dean was provoked, and I love Dean's little look at him as he was walking away, like what just happened? It's like, I want to kick this kid's head. I don't know if i'd mess with Dean. I mean we're talking, you know my what Spilo five nine and and and Jared six four. I mean they're gonna they're gonna go up against each He's gonna go up against six four every time. Jez scrappy? Is he scrappy? He's smart. That's why Jess is like a freaking genius. But keep going about toaster Gate. He kind of is right character. Um, So then you know, towards the end UH of the episode, Luke sees that the toaster is fixed, and we all see that it's it's it's Jesse's doing because Jess walking lance glance ry the glance right right, and then the glance at Rory, and then it's like Mr Cool is out the door, He's got everything under control. Yeah, Mr Cool's out the door. But exactly Mr Cool's out the door. Yeah. I think it's major because Rory is the really the only one that's got an influence over Jess. And she really does. That scene was major when she's talking to him and saying, you're hurting Luke and I can't stand here and allow it. Right, Well, you're dealing with a sixteen year old girl who has substance, who is still sixteen year old girl, but she's a little more mature for her age than your average sixteen year old girl. And yeah, you're a great looking guy and you're super cool and you're James Dean, come back to life, the whole deal. But that don't impress me none unless you're a good person, you know, because we live in a small town here, and your values are not aligning with these town values. Yeah, okay, so you know, you go be cute somewhere else. Yeah, that's finally she stood up for Luke. I loved it, both did in this episode. And uh, I liked it too. I thought they that's their boy you know. It was very BOYFRIENDI fatherly, just very like it was important. That's That's was my takeaway. Yeah, really solidified them as a unit, at least on a friendship level, potentially a romantic level, and how she views Luke and how her real feelings came out about Luke, about what a what a good influence. He's been on her life and has had her back. So it's like, you know, we don't do that around here, buddy. You know, she'll stomp on him. She'll she'll stomp on him. He messes with he continues to miss them. Luke. So yeah, I think it's nothing Luke did or said. That was the wake up call. Rory gave him the wake up. So for me, the two most important moments were Toastergate and Emily Is both brief moments. But Emily and Mia, Wow, yeah that was that was heavy. It was a tear jerking moment for sure. Not a dry eye in my media room, let me yeah. And okay, so let me ask you this to start. You're Mia, Loria comes to her in, she's cold, she's wet, she's got the baby. Do you do what she did? Or do you do what Emily said she should have done? That was crucial line and what a what a great line, you know. And I'll set it up for the other and say, already know. But it's like Emily said to her, Yes, I took her in and took care of her. And Emily said, did it ever occur to you to maybe just turn her around and send her home. And it was just so I mean, that's the thing about Kelly Bishop, how she can play a scene on so many different levels emotionally, the range of her feelings and the range of her emotions. Um that that that was dancing across her face, and you could just the flicker in her eyes about the guilt she felt and the anger that she felt that she wasn't um that Mia didn't turn around and send her home. It's her daughter, that's my granddaughter and my daughter. How dare you? You know? Why didn't you? And then the regret as she turned around and the grand lady that she is thanking showing that vulnerability and saying thank you at the end of it broke my heart. I agree, it's just heartbreaking right now talking about it because I don't know, you know, usually I'm like, that person's right, that person is wrong. I don't know who was right or wrong in that she was right and she was wrong, I guess, but you know, she heard on the side of caution. She listened to a sixteen year old girl's tail of She felt abandoned by her family, she felt out of touch with her family, she felt like all this life was being shoved down her throat and she had to escape because she didn't feel it, she didn't want it. Obviously, there's a lot we don't know it right, right, right, So it's it's it's active in our minds and our imaginations about what really went down, the nuance of that scene. I mean, I could, I could just start crying right now, because when she walks away and she you know, she bombed, she kind of mic drops her like I would have turned her around and sent her back to her family. And then she walks to the door and she looks back and says, oh my god, I'm crying. I can't And I say this when she said, oh my, do you have pictures? And then Nia says, I'll have a box to you tomorrow, and the like conversation with two of them. It's because because it's the loss of time, it's the loss. It's a mother's loss of her daughter because she is lost to her. They are two completely separate entities, they are not bonded, and she wants to be so bad and it's the same pain you felt when she realized, let's reach out and give any virtual good. It's because and then Nia is so fine and says, I'll have the box to tomorrow. I mean, the level of humanity in that scene was second to none. I mean there's a lot of humanity in that show. I mean there's a lot of goodness and and values in that show. At that moment, I don't know that there's been a more humanity in anything, because it was just so stark, so so clear of the loss of my daughter and Emily feeling it's so deeply and how she's going to express that to me because she was angry at her. She she tongue last year a little bit, she thanked her, She was grateful for her. You're the woman that replaced me. You're the woman that I should have been to my daughter. If I were more like you, Mia, I would not have lost her. Me And knowing who she was and knowing I knew you'd come, I knew we would have this moment. M hmm, it was fate. Yeah, it was. It was the most maybe the most powerful moment of the show. Yeah. I would say up there, Richard's heart attack stands out to me as that was very significant. But that right, but that was out of nowhere. That just sort of came out of nowhere. It was powerful. I agree with you, but I think that I think that moment had that moment had been set up since day one. Yeah, I can't think of another moment so far. And each episode kept tilling the soil and planting the seeds, and you know, we were watching this moment grow and grow and grow until it finally matured in that scene and it was like it was devastay. I did too. I mean I I cried my eyes out last night. It was it was And then my wife, my wife knocks on the door says, are you okay? No, just watching the football game. You know, I'm a little upset. The fight, the fight between Loralai and Suki was also not as emotional but more painful, Like, oh god, that kind of took a back. Yeah, this was more Yeah, that fight between Laurela and not to jump around, but um, that's kind of what we do here. Uh, we don't have any plans, but you know that's the beauty of it. That's what I love about it. It's just you know, I love freestyling with you guys. Um, but you know, it's it lacked, it lacks some impact. But it was also very necessary that maybe that arc, you know, that storyline with the fight and then getting back, you know, making up. You know, that's all necessary to show the stakes, how how high the stakes are for those two that I was all m m. Because then Emily comes on stage and it's all over, folks, because you know, this is this is what it's about. Right, It's like keeping to the portrait. You know, it's not it's not called Gilmore girls in the chef, right, was just just holding her arm up. Everybody needs to send in their weird ass portraits, like I mean, I've seen some creepy ones, like have you ever that I don't know. I don't think it's a thing as much anymore. But when I was young, everyone was getting their portrait done and I used quotes and it was so the paintings turned out so creepy. I was not, uh ever, asked to pose for a portrait. I was not privy. I was not aware that anybody in in my neighborhood was posing for portraits. We were a portrait family, but we did photo. We had to go and get our photo. And I'm not saying sears like this was like, but in my town, yes, there was this artist and she did all the portraits and it's quite expensive. And it was exactly like that where you had to sit there for a hundred hours and like pose and then they got painted and then they You know, that's really nice. That's a nice family thing to do. I mean, that's a nice bonding experience. I don't know, I think, Yeah, I'm curious how many people have some great I think I actually might. I guess I think I might do that with my family. You should, Yeah, I think I'm gonna do it. That's kind of nice. I'd love to have a can hold his arm up with a swan in front of him with a robot. God, you guys have to take I cried so much. I'm literally going to have to take advil after this show. Oh, because you're you're blocked up. Oh my goodness, Oh my gosh. Yeah. It was. It was a powerful, powerful episode. It really showed everybody in their best light and their most vulnerable, and they're most giving and their most supportive. And it was just a joy to watch that happen and setting us so on a trajectory and so many things. Yeah, and I knew any moment that Paris was not going to show up, and I was just so relieved I needed a break from her. But I going to grow on you, I do, I do. I want to get to the point where I'm entertained by it. But it's just Harris is my favorite. Really yeah, I just think she's she's turned into a cartoon and it's kind of over for that character. For me. I don't get why anybody she needs to be in therapy. It's just like it's it's too It's just too much, which is why she's my favorite Character's too hateful, I will say. Also, I love food in the show looks so incredible. Like there's a scene where Laura goes into the kitchen and I'm like, literally, that food. This is the most delicious, beautiful looking television food I've ever seen in my home. It's really they did a great job on that. Um I was salivating. I mean, I watched the episode after dinner and I was got hungry again, so I had to get a second Hopings kitchen. And it's like it's a testament to Melissa's acting because she's so good at at acting like a chef and doing homework and all of that stuff she's doing is what a chef would be doing. I thought the same thing. So it looks like, oh, this is a real chef preparing a real meal and it's very special, and oh you can smell it, you want to taste it. I mean, it feels like it's almost time. It's almost that time. I don't know what else? What else haven't we Uh, there's got to be something that we didn't. We didn't come. We nailed it. I think we'll talk more about your star trek love and pop culture. I think there was some mention of Luke skateboarding, which I thought, Oh, that's that's an unexpected I didn't picture that. I did. I'd skateboarded as a kid too. That's when it was the craze was just beginning. I was out in front of my house, skateborn down the street with all my friends. Oh you know, I do have one question, and everyone's gonna be mad that I don't know this, But is the woman that owns the Rachel property the same woman that did the wedding cake? Is that the same bakery? Is that? Who that is? Does anyone known? You? Try to figure that out? So and we might have to do it next week because it might be a little bit more of a dig. But is that the same woman? But isn't it? But isn't an interesting Her function in the show was to set up because she couldn't let go of the dragon play in because it was like her child. She didn't have any she didn't have any children, and everybody was dead. She was the last one a line larious by the way. Her only family was that that broken down dragonflay In. So she's definitely not going to sell it. S like, what are you gonna do with it after you die? But they don't to say. And then the shock and then the shock on Laurelized face when MIAs seemed pleased that she was leaving because oh gosh, now I can take one of the offers and I can sell it and move on the independence in that is I'm talking about, and it just and then it hit laurelh my god, It's like my life is really changing and I'm like getting out of my comfort zone a little here. I'm so comfortable in this town. I love this town, I love this job, I love these people. This woman has been so supportive. I raised my baby here, you know, And now it's just gonna be in New Ownership and I'm not going to be here anymore, and I will say before we do. Popults are subtle but important. Was the mention of Richard in Akron that it's like he's gone to Akron to sort of do this crappy insurance thing so that we don't forget Richard's work is a little messed up right now. So yeah, they're too too exactly. There are to um two places in this episode that bugged me that I didn't think really I thought they should have. I did not like the opening. I did not like how it made Laurel I look, I didn't that dinner table stuff was Yeah, the portrait conversation with Moral I being so antagonistic and childish about it, and I just thought, boy, this is over the top. I mean, aren't we beyond this now? Um? Sorry, that's just how I felt. You know. These openings are hard, and I just I just didn't like her character. It's like her care you know, I go back and forth between really loving her and then just sort of disliking her in these moments where she's antagonizing her mother so much and to the point where Emily just like slammed her fork down on the or the salt shaker down on the table, just like, hey stop. It's like, I don't blame her. Uh. And then you know those jokes for me with me and and that I can't I couldn't understand a word. And then Michelle was like speaking, and then Rory was interpreting. Oh he says he doesn't like you. Oh he says you should get the heck out of here. You know, I didn't find that funny or endearing in any way. Show. Yeah, I mean that's fair. I just thought it was kind of clumsy. So you know, look, as much as I love this episode for me, it's my favorite episode so far, there was a couple of clutches for me. And that's fair, right, I Like, you know, you can't can't all be and all the unicorns and rainbows and perfect. We have to have some things that you're like, right, So we're gonna do a pop culture Riley, We're gonna get into pop culture. But Amy, that was a great call um so fran Weston, who owns a little bakery. She was also in Red Light on the Wedding Night, and she will be in one more episode season three, episode eighteen, Happy birthday. Okay, good, Yeah, you're on Riley. Let's light it up pop callure with Riley pellucis Lady gentlemen, whoa, let's say that again? Who with pop culture? Thank you so much for the introduction. Um, so first, I'm so excited for this pop culture this episode. There's some really great stuff in here. So first off, Laura La is warning Rory not to ask Emily any further about at dinner about the portrait, and Laura La says danger Will Robinson. Danger. This is a reference to Laws in Space in American science fiction television series, which originally aired between nineteen sixty five and nineteen sixty eight on CBS. The show's most famous catchphrase is, in fact, danger Will Robinson. The phrase was actually uttered only once in the entire eight three episode series. Is That Right? And The series was rebooted in two thousand eighteen, and the season three premiere was actually last week on the sci Fi channel. Um. June Lockhart from the original series had the biggest parking space on the twentieth Century Fox lot because she would often drive her favorite vehicle to work, which was fire engine. And Will Robinson was played by Bill Mooney and the robot costume was top heavy with upper section a D D five lower section. I'm not really sure how anyone moves in that kind of costume. And there was actually a Lost in Space film starring William Hurt, Matt LeBlanc, Gary Oldman, and Heather Graham. I wanted to become an actor because of William Hurts performance and altered States in the early eighties. That's what made me want to become a Riley that I wanted to add. When you just revealed that they only said danger Will Robinson once, it made me look up this and it will lead us into some of our Star Trek pop culture, you know, beam me up, Scottie. Though it has become irrevocably associated with the series and films, the exact is was never actually spoken in any Star Trek television episodes or film. How is that possible? Shatner. So we might have to do some more digging on that. But that's what's so crazy, Like people say dameser Will Robinson in pact like all the time? How the timing? We just I just did New York Comic Con and I was sitting at a table in the green room with William Shatner. I could have asked him, oh, before he went to space or after before like a couple of days before he went to space, he was talking about going to space. We're all sitting around listening to Riley. Can we do the Star Trek ones now? Because Riley and I were going over this yesterday and we had the big debate because who's hotter Shatner or Chris Pine. And here's the thing. Shatner was a hottie when he was on Star Trek. Like I get now he's ninety, but like when he was Captain Kirk in the g TV show, Babe, he was a babe. I'm going to refuse myself from this conversation. I'm a photo. Really, go ahead, have had it well? Speaking of beat me up Scotty was actually said in this episode. Lorelei says, Yeah, the town's too dull to work up a real murder. Roy says, but you're one beat me up Scotty reference away from being the victim of one. I'm holding up a photo of Shatner when he was in his early days as Captain Kirk. It's like Marlon brownerous, continue, look at that. There you go. So as we talked about. Beat me Up Scotti is a popular catchphrase that made its way into culture from the television series Star Trek. The original series um Actually, when NBC was promoting Star Trek and magazines, all shots of spots pointed, eyebrows and ears were airbrushed out of the pictures because NBC thought that no one would want to watch the show due to box resemblance to the Devil, which is weird. However, this concern is quickly invalidated upon the series airing, with Spock becoming not only one of the most popular characters, but also a sex symbol with young female agree. I think those guys were hotties back then, and as we talked about on October. On October, actor William Shatner UM is best known for Captain James Kirk went to Space for Real aboard the Blue Origin New Shepherd Rocket and this is Cool. Lucile Ball heavily advocated for the show and it was largely her influence with NBC which led to the Second Chance after rejection of the original pilot. Shatner, Nichols, t K, and Koenig are for remaining members that are still alive today and as we previously mentioned. Adam Nimoy directed season one, episode three of Kill Me Now and Gilmour Girls, and his father is Leonard Spock, who pays Leonard was there at the Rats. George Taka is, so I can't believe you met all these guys and you didn't like tell us. Oh my god. Now I found a picture of Shatner with his shirt off, telling the post. Maybe you're having your own little experience. I'm a trekker, like I love Star Trek, the real Trek. He's call it being a trekker. And I know this because I took a whole class of college about Star Trek. My favorite Star Trek is Star Trek for the Voyage Home. I've seen it like fifty times. Speaking of Sulu Um, Bootsy and Luke are having their their arguments, showing photos of William Shatner, Um and foods. He says. Luke has been on my case since the first grade when he wrongly accused me of sabotaging clay imprint that he made of his hand and Loraa licens Oh think heart? Was he dressed like Sulullo? Woman? Was such a good line. You gotta played tars and it looks like listening knows. I'm just holding up shirtless shots of Shatner. That's easy to say. It's getting very blue in here on this episode. We're gonna have to change. You're gonna go there, We're gonna be called in front of the ratings. Boy. We put a couple of shirtless shots and Instagram so everyone can judge for themselves. So many things for the Instagram poster gate. I want to know what the people think. And can we put a shirtless shot of George here and let's ask him on the to be the right thing? Na? Or should Mia have done what Emily said? But anyway, I digress, continue Riley. So Sula was portrayed by George t kay And so Sula didn't have a first name in the series, but he did get his first name in the source books, but it was not spoken on screen until Star Trek eleven, Undiscovered Star Trek six, Undiscovered Country. So I'm thrown off to handle it anymore. You're you keep going, Riley, You're doing great. I think Dr Laura would give me the same advice. So it's good, Okay, Moving on, lorrel I says she was scowling in the family portrait. Laurel I says, I was going for a Billy Idol thing. So. Billy Idol first achieved fame in nineteen seventies, emerging from the London punk rock scene as the lead singer of the group Generation X, and then decided to go solo in Billy had a signature scal which is what Loreli is referring to, and he played himself in the Adam Sandler movie The Wedding Singer. He nearly landed a much bigger role when he was considered for the part of the T one thousand in Terminator too. Some of Billy's biggest hits were Rebel Yell, White, Wedding, Nightcrawling, and Eyes Without a Face. I used to live in Billy Idol's apartment. My first apartment in New York City was Billy Idol's old apartment, and I slept in his bed. It was a round bed round yes, it was a huge loft department. Some lawyer had rented it and he was looking for a roommate. My very first night in New York, my friend Yvonne took me to Nell's and nobody got into Nell's. Madonna didn't even get to Nels Yvonne. They opened up the gates for her the velvet rope. We walked into Nells and here we are in Fairyland and u um and I met this lawyer guy and he said, you know, I'm looking for a roommate. Said, okay, it was Billy Idol's a apart. We used to get all his mail there. He kept getting We kept getting Billy Idol's mail there and as I think his girlfriend at the time, anyway, we would find a lot of role up dollar bills. I'll say that this is the eighties. Emily is having Rory pose for her portrait and Emily says, oh, now you have a problem with swans and thrones. Laura I says, because Swanson throne screamed one thing. Mom Siegfried and Roy so sig Freedom woy Aer duo of German American magicians and entertainers, best known for their appearances with white lions and white tigers. In two thousand three, Roy was attacked by a tiger on stage, leaving him partially paralyzed. He never actually blamed the tiger, and actually he claimed that the tigers saved his life, which I don't know. It's very interesting in two thousand and four. Their act became the basis for the animated sitcom Father of the Pride. That's so random, but not the Father of the Bride like Steve Martin one obviously, for no, it was like a animated sitcom. Oh, Father, Father Pride, Father of the Pride. I get it because of the lions Pride. I thought you said, Father Pride. Um Sigfried sadly passed away from pancreatic cancer in January of two thou and Roy passed away in May to COVID complications. So Um Michelle Lowlyne Suki are brainstorming on potential names for their in and Michelle says, how about the money Pit, which is very cheek and reference not only two. Money Pit is six American comedy film starring Tom Hanks and Shelley Long as a couple who attempt to renovate a recently purchase house, but also cheeky because it's logical and it's gonna be a money pit. For the scene with the bathtub falling two floors down after being filled with water, Tom Hanks does an obnoxious laugh which sounds like the imitation of a sea lion. This clip of him laughing is commonly used for the Universal Backlaw Tour when the tour guides joke with the visitors during breaks and filming. Tom Hanks like to drive around the vintage vintage Lincoln Model L series classic car, which is featured in the movie, and apparently Real Hell's Angel Bikers from Real Hell's Angel Chapter portrayed the Hell's Angel Bikers in the movie. And finally, Walter Fielding mentions to one of his colleagues about not naming yourself Meryl Streep, and Tom Hanks would actually go on and start with Meryl in the two thousand seventeen the post This next one is my favorite. Everyone is making claims about what Jess has done. Stars Hollow Laura la says I heard he controls the weather and wrote the screenplay A Glitter, Glitter, Glitterous This who thousand and one American romantic musical drama film starring Mariah Carey, Max Beasley, and Rapper de Brat. In an interview with Watch What Happens Live in two thousand nine, Mariah Carey said that she regrets making the film. It was such a bomb and it sucked. It was so else. I really loved the film. Is it one of those watchable Sunday afternoon films. I loved glitter I loved it. I love the music. I loved it was glittery. You know, like you loved loved it or you hate watch? Did you guys know that's a thing heat watching. We can talk that about talk about that another time. He loved it. No, I fully bought it. Time to watch things that they hate. Sometimes I do. You've done some free time? Sometimes I can make time. So the original cut for the film ran at two and a half hours because of the music, as noted by a director, was which is what made the editing process so difficult. During filming, tracks using backup singer Mary and Tatum were used in play some Riant Carrey's voice. To avoid bootlegging, Carry recorded her vocals close to release date of the soundtrack and let and all the lead vocals were used. And they can't wait until Scar has to review in the movie reviews, I'll be counting down the days, everybody, you and Henry, that would be funny. That's probably a good idea to review that movie. And that's it for your pop culture. Riley, what's your favorite line? Thank you? I love when they're going back and forth with the names because I just feel like it's just all the names are so abstorted, or the inn in it's like an end that's in with the in crowd. To sit down, Danielle. Okay, so mine is from It was one of the first scenes. It's really not like a line per se. It's just like I when when they said it, it was delivered so well, and I just could not stop laughing Um, LAURAAI goes get out of here and Emily Emily goes, I will not get out of here. I don't know why. I just loved it so much. So in the town meeting, the town meeting is happening and Mrs Lanahan says something and LAURAA leans down and says, you really shouldn't be driving anymore. Mm hmmm mm hmm. All right, I'm gonna tell you the best line in the whole thing, and it's gonna blow all your best lines out of the water, because this was the best line in the whole episode. Okay, And I'm not backing down from this line. And it happened in the very first scene at the dinner table, when Laurel I was being a pain in the neck and Emily said, Laurel, I should I get you a little mirror so that you could look at yourself while you're having this conversation with yourself. That was funny too. I mean that was like old school just dropping it. Just that's a mic drop line. Terrific line. Good friend, and I think Luke had a couple of good lines. There was a million good lines in this episode, yeah, including was he wearing a su shirt? My kids? What's next week? Riley? Are we going to read the Are we going to read the good the bad reviews? We're out of time for that. But we forgot fashion. Everybody needs to say their favorite fashion moment? Riley, do you have a favorite fashion moment? I do have a favorite fashion moment. I loved Lane's blue kind of teal turtleneck with her denim jacket over it when they're looking at like the chalk outline. That is very cloil. Did you grab a fashion moment? I forgot, uh, I forgot to do it. But our lovely producer Riley Um added some pictures to Rundown, so I'm stealing one from there, but I gotta give it to Dean with the long red T shirt and the puffer jacket best over it. I just like, I won't forget for next week to add this to my list of tasks. I blew it this week. I'll say, Jesus God, crying all over the place, falling apart emotionally all over. I mean, it's unbelievable. So what's your what's yours? I forgot to look so just I have to have a pass this week, and I'll do it because I'm not gonna half acid and make it up right now. I'm gonna do it real, So I'll start mine next week. I remember last week. Yeah, I'm gonna again. I'm gonna refuse myself from this segment. But the people love it fashion segment. The people love it, so we can just the girls can handle this one, all right. I'll tell you I think I like Luke's shirt when he hugs Yeah. Yeah, okay, I don't know why it had some red in it, right, Okay, there you go soon next week. We really do need to read the reviews because I especially like the one that said shut up Amy. They're sitting right here screaming at me. They're both screaming at me right now. Literally over for twenty minutes too long. M H. Next, when are we gonna get with it? Next week We'll start with it, everybody. That's gonna be a rap on the ins and outs of inns. Thanks for downloading, Best fans on the planet. I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All In Podcast with iHeart Radio, one of leven productions. Thank you, Riley Pelucis, Thank you, Danielle Roma, thank you Amy Sugarman. Again. Thanks, best fans on the planet. Thanks for the downloads, and h we will see you next time. M Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am All In Podcast and Emailie at Gilmore at I heart radio dot com. Oh you Gilmore fans. 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