Season 6 has come to an end. Lorelai is with Christopher! Is anyone excited by this twist or only devastated?
Did Luke and Lorelai really need to break up? Was Lorelai’s ultimatum necessary?
And, Rory and Logan’s sad goodbye … should she have told him not to go?
Partings is such sweet sorrow.
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I'm glad you're telling this all now because it's about to get real.
It's about to get real, folks, because I think we have some very engaged podcasters, some podcasting talent. It's fully engaged. What do we think kids? Size? First, hang on, let's keep the horse in the bar.
But we need to address that this is the final episode. If you're original creators, that's kind of weird.
And it's called partings, so yeah, always, yeah, we're parting, so this is our parting gift. Anyway, do you.
All remember Wait, before we get into it, I have to ask you a few questions. Do you remember that they were leaving? Like did you guys know at this point or did you not find out until a little bit later, like in the summer.
You know, that's a good question. I don't remember. I don't remember if we knew or if I knew m.
Because I wonder how everyone.
I'm gonna have to jog my memory a little bit, but I don't remember distinctively, you.
Know, knowing already, yeah, which I could imagine maybe you didn't because it you know, maybe they thought it would get resolved.
Mmm. Yeah, pretty big blow when they didn't get the two year deal, which is standard with a hit show owner Brothers and they just felt snubbed and they said bye bye, okay.
Well beautifully shot at the SOD Also, I will say it was shot. It looked like a movie to be I thought it was.
I thought it was really it doesn't look like a movie.
I disagree. I thought it looked like there was a lot of stars hollow. There was a lot of new things like angles and things we hadn't seen.
It look like a movie shot on a potato.
There was there was parts of stars hollow we'd never seen before.
There was a lot of movement. I would say, like the cameras.
It was a rather attractive looking episodes. It really did poss and different. Well, you know it was it was the the goodbye. It's like I listen before we synopsize. I will say this because there's been a lot of conjecture, a lot of theory as to what this last episode really meant. What Amy and Dan were thinking, Uh, you know, are there what are all the hidden messages in this episode? Is it? Is it a are they slamming the fan base? Like we're going to ruin these characters. We're gonna ruin this show. I don't know. I don't know so much. You know what, I think, you know what? You know what dawned on me watching this episode was I think they were saying, we're really good writers, we're great writers, and we're going to leave this here for you. Try to match this, because you're not going to be able to because our talent run runs am uck and we charge accordingly. So we're going to go on and do great things, which they have done. They have that confidence, they know how good they are, because you can't write like that and not know how good you are. And I think that's really what it was. It's like, we're going to give you this treat, bye bye, enjoy and uh, you're not gonna see anything better than this. And that's kind of how I felt about it. I mean, you know, the ending, I know is extraordinarily controversial.
Well, we'll talk about it, we'll.
Talk about it.
But Danielle, because I don't, I don't I have a hot take.
Okay, No, we're and we're gonna you're gonna.
We're gonna hot take it hot. We're gonna all right, This is Season six, episode twenty two of the finale partings air date May ninth, two thousand and six, and the synopsis is Logan graduates from college and Rory throws him an epic goodbye party as he takes off for London to work for his dad. Emily and Richards set up Christopher Friday night dinner, and Luke and Laurlai continue to be distant, but as she realizes she needs to take matters into her own hands, she gives an ultimatum, but the outcome lands her in the arms of her ex and Towntriubadour's Floodstars Hello, hoping to get discovered.
So we start this off at Suki's. We do this whole super quiet route.
That was a good scene.
Yeah, really contrasted laurelized life in the present with what she really wants.
And funny with Suki. Funny the way they did it just zoomed in on her face. A lot of face acting in this episode with the funny bit, because that is exactly how parents are. Oh, be quiet, be quiet, be quiet, like it's so loud, you know everyone's It was really that was a that was a ten out of ten for me. To start. I was like, hm, it was different. It wasn't too long.
Right, that was good?
Yeah, it was.
It was a perfect tone. It captured it captured the uh you know, it really captured laurelized angst.
Yes, I thought so too.
Sam and her internal thoughts and it contrasted where she was in her life and Worsuki.
Yes, yes, yes, I agree, without Laurel having a word, Yeah, that is great writing.
I thought it was interesting, like you you said, Scott, like she did the whole thing without saying a word and conveyed the idea that she was sort of in her own little bubble, like her own little world, existing by herself, but yet still with other people. So I thought that was that was pretty powerful. And then it happened again at the end, if you like, in the very last it was the same thing.
Hadn't Anybody didn't realize that till you just said it right now? You're right wow, by the.
Way, and my Scotti piece, big mug coffee mug, I am having a cup of the you're making me crazy and I am in heaven right now, so good, and you.
Actually look pretty happy drinking that. I've never had a cup of coffee but oh my god, here's yeah, that is a really cool note, Suzanne. You are right. We'll talk about that as we get there. But yeah, I mean I think right from the start they sucked me in and I was like, oh, oh, we.
Frame, we frame the main narrative right there, bang, here we go, and then what they do within that framework was mildly entertaining, quite entertaining, stupendously entertaining. All right, So now we're in stars Hollow, Taylor, can I make one note? Yes please?
I think I did think was interesting about this episode, and I'll say it now. Say an episode's forty four minutes, right, forty went?
Is it forty twenty minutes of commercials?
Okay?
I think it's still forty two. We'll figure it out. Forty I think, okay, we'll go with forty because you're the boss. So I would say, in this episode of meaty content we had thirty five, there was a lot of filler with troubadours, so many troubadours. Mind, I didn't.
But it was so damn funny.
But it was a lot, right, it was a lot. It was a significant amount, so that I felt like, here's what I'll say there wasn't a wasted scene of the rest, right, So there wasn't a scene that I would toss or a wasted moment of the thirty five minutes.
I think what you're trying to say is it was a perfect balance of bizarre comedy, straight comedy, uh, drama, edy and drama.
Yeah, it was like the amount of Troubadours. It was like, I was okay with like three scenes, but when it was every single scene was it was a latch for me. I used too much.
I liked the Troubadours because they were all like actual groups, Like it was Sparks and it.
Was Spark.
Came on like Sparks, and I didn't know what I was right, but there.
The Paladino was in there. I just I thought I liked the Troubadors.
A return of marylynd Rice cub Oh, hysterical.
Her Volvo song, rhyming Hawaiians with crying and everything. I mean, come on, it.
Was fine, but it was a lot. It was a loss, you guys, It was a lot.
It was a lot, but a lot.
But you had to have something happy going on to distract you from the rest of the insanity.
Suzanne French for the wind.
Can I also say sometimes I'm wishy washy on her, but I'm gonna say Alexis Bludell this was probably her best acting anyway. What do I know. I'm just a random person who they gave a microphone to.
But who thinks that shows are forty four minutes?
I think they are.
It's unbelievable.
When you watch on Netflix, it's definitely forty three. But I don't know if.
That's because the starting credit, yeah.
And the flashback, you know, like actual episode is forty.
Ah.
That's making me crazy, is making me crazy.
Okay, so continue, Scott, Let's get into it all.
Right's an Now we're in stars Hollow. Taylor is walking down the street and he's noticing that, you know, Grantlee Buffalo is missing, and there's another troubadour singing and he was doing a pretty darn good job. It was a pretty nice little song with some nice changes in that song. Because I'm a songwriter and I check it out and I'm like, yeah, that's a nicely structured song with a nice lie.
My note was a lot of background actors got to talk.
Yeah, okay, So then Taylor, you know, so he noticed and he's he's he's This is our first tease of the change in the Troubado. I don't think we don't find out here that that Grantly Buffalo is going off to open for Neil Young.
Yeah, I think yeah. I started to assume it because he said that he was in a.
Large episode, right, it was a prior episode.
Right.
In the last episode, we learned he's going to right because he bumps into Suki and Jackson.
So I didn't remember that, which is probably why I enjoyed all these trouba What's going on?
That was a nice scene for Taylor, and then there was a lot of background actors talking to him, which normally doesn't happen, so I was like, oh, they speak well.
Taylor was so great in this. He made me laugh so hard. His shocked and outraged reactions are just beautiful. And then we have Laura, Rory and Logan graduating. Logan's graduating, He's got his cane. It's walking around like Charlie champ One a little bit. I think. I think on the last last time we see Logan walking away before he goes to the car to go to the airport to go to London. I think we do a little homage to Chaplain. I thought that was a little little trampy thing there. But anyway, what do we think of the graduation stuff?
Whoa.
I thought it was a little racy that they're going through the camera and he said naked naked, but she has naked photos of Logan. I thought, oh wow. The nature of their relation definitely was like wowso okay. Also, it kind of gave me a visual of like do I want.
That or no, I think you do.
I mean, I love Matt Zugri, well, so you like you? So I mean I was like, oh, I think.
Wait a minute, would you like to be Rory for a day or a week with Logan?
Would like to be Laurli. But I wouldn't mind being Rory dating Zukrie because.
He liked Luke better than Logan. Because if your Lareli for a death, Oh.
My gosh, that is a that is a question for me.
You just walk, you write.
Because at the time, I was crushing because it's twenty years ago, so I was young. I was right in the middle, right because I was thirty and I was definitely crushing on both. I was like, oh, I love them both all right, but yeah, I thought a little bracy, but I like, I was very pleased with this. Suzann Danielle like, how are you guys feeling?
I liked Logan and Rory so much this episode, and it's annoying that they get ripped apart at the end of it in my opinion, Like I thought, finally they're kind of making sense, you know.
Isn't it interesting how all I wanted to hear it don't go from Luke, and Logan wanted to hear it don't go from Rory, I know, and neither of them got their satisfaction.
Yeah, right, hence the name of the episode. Right.
I don't blame Rory, though I don't either. We have we have a lot to talk about.
All right.
So now we see Sparks. All of a sudden, Sparks is on the duo, the musical duo who did very well in the What the Eighties Sparks jamming in front of Josie's Market and Taylor comes out with hysterically funny, exasperated gesticulations.
Did you notice that Taylor called Luke lucas? I wrote that, I literally wrote down in my notes. Does he always do this? I don't have I recall it.
It's very fatherly of him too. I really like that and it's such a subtle thing, but yet I love it.
So so this is when we see Sparks and then you know Ted Rooney Ryman with Hawaiian and crying and lion and just being his cool self.
Man. Is this where we get Mary Lynn and her Volvo song?
Not yet? Okay, that's towards the end. Yeah, And is that that's an original song she wrote? Because it's sure seems like it's very funny. It's very funny and uh okay. So now we're inside Luke's and and the Taylor's outrage continues as he comes to a completely disinterested Luke on the phone, saying, this is the height of my interest. Get away for me. I'm not interested in anything you have to say. He goes to Kirk and what do we think about that? Kirk has some very funny lines here.
Yeah, it was all good.
That was a laugh out loud moment for me because I'm a big Monkeys fan. So he said, who's that's one of the monkeys?
I just write he wrote less train to Clark spell Ye, well it's not Neil Young. And then we have Taylor comparing the Troubadours to somebody who he thinks is supremely talented. Pat Boone was like, he says, if you people, don't leave right now, because otherwise I'll call the authorities and they'll you'll be confronted with water hoses and canines. So bye bye, right. I one of the great tailor, the greatest tailor moments perhaps in recent memory. Very funny and not taking nothing away from Pat Boone. He was an amazing artist.
Was a Debbie Boone Remember you light in my life?
It is he? Is it?
Pat boons around? Remember when he had his like heavy metal day?
Did he really? He had heavy He went into heavy.
Metal, but like at eighty, like when he was old. Like what I remember like a leather vest. Oh yeah, that's hot Boon doing metal. What was a Pat Boone hit? Does anybody remember?
Uh? I just have a feeling. It's it's something like a smile on your face.
Oh my god, let's see if you're right.
I don't think I'm right.
This will save us from doing this In pop culture, smile Hat Boone hits.
Love Letters in the Sand, Speedy.
Gun Zalez, April Love, Moody No I'll be home.
Wow, the smile on your face.
Pat boon Age, let's do that. Pat boone Age, whoa eighty nine years old?
Good for Baton, he's still he's still kicking it, then for Pat boon rocking.
So I also noticed that horse staff behind Taylor. I don't know why I'd never noticed it so prominently as I did in this episode. I was like, wow, that's quite a statue.
Yeah, it was there all the time. All right. Now we're outside of Laurelei's.
House, very shot of the mailbox.
Right and she and she calls Rory, and Rory is a post graduation and staying away from the uh, the Mitchen's and the Huntsburgers, letting Logan do his thing. What did you guys think of this?
Here's my note on it, Larelei, because I've been in that position where your heartbroken and you're having to fake it for somebody, And.
I thought she really expressed that so well, like the way we saw her, not the way she Rory was hearing her.
Although Rory was like, what's going on? She seems so heartbroken?
I was like, are you okay? And she was like yes, yeah.
And then when she hangs up. It's that pain that we've all felt when you're like, I am in so much pain and I just faked it so hard. So I thought that was portrayed so well in that scene.
Keep talking, I'm gonna take my shirt off. Ew No, there's one.
What do you mean?
Oh?
Just everybody knows. But he's got a lot. I work out, like a long sleep. But we all reacted like that's because we're like brother and sister, all of us now, and it's just like between the butt talk and now the best comeback Scott is I work out?
Damn you.
So good? Yeah, she's in pain.
Oh she has been in pain for the last few episodes though, and hiding it the whole time, you know, So it's not the first thing.
She's just tired.
She's just so exhausted from all of the emotional.
Which I get she's been doing the only part I am not on team lore Life or is her weird antics of avoiding him with.
The best I think that's the next one of the next scenes. But with the Patty, I'm like, why are you evolving?
Everybody and who hides from their significant other Like that's freaking weird. I'm sorry weird.
That's what she's going to I'm going to recuse myself from this conversation.
Yeah, I mean you think it's weird too.
I no, I've never been a woman, and I don't know how she's feeling.
Well, I have been for fifty years.
I should disqualify myself.
And I get all of it, except for like, I literally would never be like tell him I'm not here.
Yeah, and she's done that more than once.
So the person I've be engaged too.
Yeah, weird.
It is so weird.
And I feel like we've been seeing this for the last few episodes and it's been building up, building up, building up, and finally there was a payoff this episode. And yeah, it's just I hate how she's involving everyone in her in her business with Luke and being very high school about it.
I guess the nature of the show, But that's it stars Hollow. It's a small town. Everybody knows everybody's business. That's kind of the point of living in a place like that because everybody's accountable for their behavior and that's the charm. And if you want to call it a downside fine town, but that's part of the charm of living in a small town, everybody knows your business.
Sure, fine on that, but Lorala, I I expect better of her and the relationship than her hiding in Rory's bed room and telling Patty to tell him I'm not here, Like I.
Didn't really have that much of a problem with it. I think she's just trying to figure out what she's going to do now because she's still trying to recover from the whole birthday party thing, and you know, Luke is pushing her away again, and she's just I think she just wanted She's just trying to create kind of some space where she can.
Think, say I need then say I need space about his staff meeting, lying about.
His conversation with her. So now it's her turn to not have a conversation with Luke.
Like we can't, is it.
We can't say it's okay for him to act that way and then say it's not okay for her to act out. But he's never he's never been like that with it. He's always like been pretty vocal, like I'm figuring it.
Out or this is what happened now. He hasn't been has never said, he has never told her he has a meeting that he doesn't have. And he has never said to Caesar, tell her I'm not here. He has never done that. Okay, but he's definitely avoided having a conversation with her. No, he's avoided maybe addressing a certain topic. He's never avoided talking to her. When did you see him avoid talking to her or running away from her or hiding from her? I never saw that.
He just doesn't. He just doesn't bring anything up, and he he just kind of avoids or he's too busy to talk about it. There is some avoid I kind of agree with.
I mean, she's just manifesting it differently than he does. He just avoids it by not talking about it, and she avoids it by physically removing herself.
Right, it's weird. He doesn't get he doesn't know. He's just he doesn't get super emotional about it.
He just correct. But she's being weird. You don't have to agree.
I'm accusing myself from the discussion. Thank you.
Yeah, I mean, I think, look, everybody can be at Luke for his part in this, but I am just saying I don't like that she lied about the staff meeting. I don't like that she hid in the bedroom and said, tell him I'm not here, Like that's mean. Yeah, just my opinion. It's mean, and it's it's high schooling. It's weird. You know, we'll hear from everybody whether they agree or not.
All right, so are we? You know? But miss Patty does say the longer the freeze out, the better the makeup. But don't wait long, Laura. And then we have this three hundred third husband thing, and I think.
That's so many.
I had an opportunity to scratch Paul ank As butt for an hour and what glory, and that reminded me of my fourth husband on the way. I mean, it's like, what is going on with like the butts in this episode? Anyway? All right, So now we're back to Logan and Rory, and Logan is being detained at the elevator by his father unexpectedly inconvenienced by his father's friends and their talking business, and Logan doesn't want anything to do with it. What did you guys think of this?
Logan's got a serious bar in that house. That was my first note, Like, wow, for a twenty one, twenty two year old, he's got a serious like bar set up.
One of the richest kids in the country. So, yeah, he's gonna part so he's a lot of.
Hard And then I got my takeaway from this scene is more once Rory gets in the elevator, that's where I had thoughts.
Well, this is where you know, these two agree with each other. They found common ground. Yeah, she didn't disagree with.
Him, no, and he finally she finally sort of understood. Yeah, I'm sure I disagree with him.
I think she like marched in there being like, I'm going to tell him what's what, and I'm going to put him in his place. And then once he actually started explaining himself, I think she realized this is also what I'm trying to do with Logan, just differently.
Yeah.
Well, I mean the most poignant lines for me in that whole scene was that he's my son. I want him to do well. Yeah, and I want him to grow up, and I want him to stop flinging himself off out of planes or off of cliffs with makeshift parachutes. And I want him to get away from those idiot friends of his.
Yeah.
Yeah, and those are all things she wants too.
How do you think he feels that his son was almost killed?
Right?
And or almost killed himself practically.
Say like, if you want to go with him, go with him. I don't care, do you know what I mean? Like, I don't. I think Rory finally understood, like this has nothing to do with her. Yeah, she can go with it. He doesn't care.
Whether or not she was Logan or not. He would be going to London this year.
Yeah, what's the big problem with her going.
She's not graduated, she has to finish school.
She can go to London school and she she could go for the summer, right right, give me a break.
Yeah, she could totally go with him for the summer, filling up.
To have applications. Rory, let's go get Richard and Emily involved. You're at Oxford now, you know, you're at Cambridge wherever you want to go. Yeah, Queen's College. Let's go ahead.
But what will that mean for the Rory building of astronomy. But anyway, Yeah, I mean good again, the thirty five minutes of meat every single word of it was was meaty. That was a good scene.
Yeah.
I liked the scene between Mitchem and Rory. I just I think it was kind of a full circle moment. You see these two people like at feuding this whole season, and finally there's a level of common ground between the two of them that she can't deny anymore.
And I think it's one of the first times we've seen Mitcham vulnerable. Yeah, he escalated a little bit, he got a little heated at the end there, But that's his son. That's only had to say, this is my son, and.
He's just repeating what his father did.
He loves his son. That he's loving his son. It doesn't feel like it, it doesn't sound like it, it doesn't look like it. But he cares, cares deeply, very powerful stuff, very powerful stuff anyway. So and of course, you know, Rory thinks it's all about her. Do you really hate me that much?
Right? And then she gets a little she gets sort of a you know, he just basically yeah, he was like, zip it, I need you to zip it. Just stop.
Hice. And now we're back in the stars.
Hollow, a very new angle of stars hollow. Like I said, with Cliff the Postman, I'm not sure I've ever been on.
The list Postman. I have some little behind the scenes here. Cliff the Postman is my standing. He was my standing.
No, no, way.
He got his moment on the show.
Yeah, really cool.
And he's a really good actor and he's a really good guy. And he wore he wore platform shoes that were about six.
Inches high because he's shorter than you.
He's a little short of me. Yeah, not a lot shorter, but he you know, he had the war of those platforms and he's just you know, hard working dude, good dude.
Well, he's great. Cliff the Postman and the Postman.
We want to see more of Cliff the Postman.
We have a question. This might be dumb, but maybe somebody listening that the same question. What does a stand in? Do they when they block the scenes for you?
No, no, no, we block the scenes and then the standings come in and stand there while they light the scene. The lighting takes a while, so you know, Laurel I had her own standing I had my own stand in. Rory had her own stand in. So yeah, they have to stand there and be still while the DP and the crew are lighting the scenes.
Yeah, okay, and they use laurel Ized standing was in this episode too, in the very beginning when the.
First people walking, Yeah, when when Taylor sees the first troubadour and he has a conversation with a woman walking the other door, and that was laurelized Lauren standing.
I kind of like that.
They're like incorporating all the crew.
Are they trying to get those people their sad cards or something? That's what it feels like.
We'll give them a little lextra, little extra money. They get a little Yeah, they get a bump and pay and see finally get to put it on their resume. It's you know, it's a nice thing.
All right now, true doors everywhere everywhere.
Yeah, I mean it's just filled with singers, hysterical they doot.
I like the crane shot of all there.
All over the place, you know. And here's the interesting thing. I just before a couple of days ago, I just wrote a song about busking.
Is busking what those guys are doing?
Yeah, they stand on the street corner in your platform. I just finished a song I was that's my tribute to buskers. And then I see this up in this episode, say, oh my god, I love it.
My one concern was there was so many that it would would it sound like a big mess. Yes, they weren't quite spread apart enough where I'm like, how am I going to hear you with your arm?
I don't think they were concerned with that. I think they were just concerned with doing the joke. YEA. So now we're at Emily and Richard's and uh, the unveiling of the of the building, the Rory Gilmour astronomy.
The things covered on the coffee table, and I was, okay, I'm.
Gonna throw a flag here.
This is.
I'll throw a flag here, okay, And you guys tell me if you agree with me. You know, Emily and Richard High Culture Gilmore unveil the tackiest looking thing you ever see with the crazy looking fonts, and yeah, that they would approve.
Of the building was pretty.
Pick We're horrendous. It really looked.
The sign was bad bad.
Yeah, they were.
Saying it was a small settlement to get a building made at a university. You're talking about millions of.
Dollars their own money. I thought that, sorry to be pissed.
Can you put them in a retirement.
You figured out they have like a couple hundred million and that building is probably what twenty five million. They're fine, and it was.
Going to be open in like six months.
I'm like that seems fast.
But I think I think Richard gets the tax deduction if he donates the building.
Yeah, he got plenty though they got funny.
My red flag was that they were talking about how they got this very nice settlement. But it hasn't even been a week.
Anybody who has.
Ever dealt with an insurance company.
Knows that's true.
Now practice insurance is not going to pay out in like that.
And plus it's like a little eye lasic thing that didn't hurt her because she's fine now, right.
Right, It's not like she's blind in one eye and then now she has some other issues and then you get a multimillion dollar settlement.
Yeah, that's that's another flag, A couple of flags on the same I have.
One more flag. We haven't quite filled out the scene yet, but.
When Laurelai first walked in, Emily asked her.
If Luke was coming.
Oh yeah, and she says, how are we?
So she like in Emily's head, she was knowing that the potentially Luke and Christopher were going to be there at the same time.
Would that be did they think they were going to go to blows?
She was just doing it to look for some cover and not be suspected of setting them up.
I agree.
I think it was her way of saying, how are we no?
But then like, why would her whole point of setting up Christopher this.
Like, yeah, what you think she wanted Luke?
She wanted she knew La was.
Going to be pissed about it. And then Emily could defend herself by saying, but I asked you at the front door if you would bring bring Luke. So of course I didn't set this up.
I don't know, but Christopher knew because in the bathroom he says, I thought I was coming here to have dinner with you.
And I'm buddled by why Emily is so hell bent on setting up Christopher.
Ye.
Yeah, so that's exactly my point. I think she jealous.
Yes, so I start crafty. I feel like nobody's that crafty Emily.
Crafty.
Emily is really crafty, not nice level.
That's that's trade craft working there.
That's in the last episode when they were driving around in the giant suv and she's trying to think of like all these girls to set up Christopher and but you, I take on it, it doesn't make sense. Here's my actual like Aucham's raisor do you know Okham's razor. I'm obsessed with Aucuham's razor. It's the way they're getting Christopher back in the thing, right, I thought, I'm a very razor on it, right, like we're trying to be all c I A. Now basically she's just talking about Christopher all the time because the Rights need a reason to get Christopher back in the big payoff of the.
End r like use Rory for that. That makes more sense.
Also, I actually think the payoff would have been even more iconic if we hadn't have had so much weird gratuitous talk of Christopher and we didn't do this date setup that we just see other stuff, right, and we see this implosion of Luke and Lorelai and then all of a sudden she's at his door. That would have been more.
Because you don't get you don't get a psychologist right right the backseat therapy scene, you know what I'm saying.
True, true, true, which was great. Laura Harden was awesome.
In this episode and everything she does.
Yeah, but anyway, we'll get to that. She's about to ding down the doorbell, yeah, first doorbell.
You know, and then Christopher comes in Oh boy, Oh my god.
You know I love Christopher, but I literally wanted him to walk back out. He don't know.
I was stoked because here's the thing, whether you love Christopher or hate Christopher, he makes this show kind of juicy. There's a little sung there that I'm like, oh, I love that bathroom scene with them, the two of them, Like even if you hate him and he makes you cringe and you're like I don't want them together, it's definitely like a great TV thing, right, like, okay.
You know, yeah, I don't know.
I just get a sense of dread whenever he walks in.
I don't know that. I'm like a what like a juice? Am I going to have the.
Bathroom scene where he's rubbing her arm?
Oh my god, I liked it.
If she didn't, I don't want to jump ahead.
She reaches out to his arm. I watched that three times because I was like, there's matching here. I thought they were going to make out in the bathroom anyway. I know everybody talks about the letters to Scale. I also had my best line here. I think it's Laureli and she says, I love the portrait idea.
Because she's like, I don't know this. This is a perfect scene displaying the just outrageous talent of Amy and and Dan Palladino. Yeah, so many great laurelei Quippi. Yes, yes, killing it.
I totally agree killing it.
I don't know if you guys watched Superstore, but the maid was in Superstar. Oh no, that's funny, good girl, Yeah, funny. The one that she's like, did I fire you?
Dude?
I got me? Laura Harden good casting, mm hmm. Isn't she great Lenny? Which I'm like, of course, her name's Lenny. Her name's Carolyn Bates, Lenny. I love that. I'm like, that's so rich.
It's just so great. All right. So now, and the letters, I mean, come on, those letters were just it was just like, is so weird.
That they're eating paea. I don't know why. I was like, I never would have thought at a Friday night dinner they would have.
Well, they had spaghetti meatballs last week.
I would have preferred the Spaghettian meatballs.
A great great scene move move.
When she says move move to Laura LII, I'm like.
Out of her socket to get her.
Yeah.
Oh man.
A lot of great face acting real quick. A lot of face acting here, Loralai and Christopher making the face like, oh my god, this is happening.
It's really you know what really is. Let's just sort of hone in on this Amy. It's eyeball acting.
Eyeball acting, you are correct, a lot of eyes, sometimes some health, sometimes air.
But it's like it begins with the thought and it comes out of the eyes and its energy and you read it and that's what it is. Yeah, And the eyeballs are a part of the face, so I guess you could broadly define.
Its face and Emily just pouring it on.
All right. So now we're in stars Hollow again at night, and there's more Troubadours and there's a there's a mom rocking with her two kids and jumping up and down.
Is this where we saw the police officer?
This is where we see which was absolutely hysterical. There's a bust in the background unloading more from all parts of the United States, absolutely hysterical. Offife wasanius.
We get the real troubadour back.
And then and then Grantlee Buffalo shows up and says, you know, tour, what are you talking about? I made seven hundred bucks and I never got to beat Neil Young Heart of Gold.
My ass who sang the beaver my thumb?
That was Dan Palladinos and the guy on the base I think was David Galski. Yeah right, right, God great, this is just such a you know, this episode was so dense that, yes, you could not catch your breath.
That is what I'm saying. There was That's why they gave us the Troubadours because it was the time first of.
In a sense, on on on multiple levels, this might be the best episode I've ever seen.
I I just don't disagree.
I laughed and laughed throughout from beginning to riding quite last the end. But it was it was a laugh right. My wife came and watched it with me.
It was also juicy. You guys, like, you don't have to love the end, but the end is a juicy cliffhanger. Yeah, yeah, I have, so you don't have to love it.
To bever ate my thumb that's Dan Palladino. And but but what are we missing here?
Then?
We I think we're heading back to the bathroom. Right when do we go.
To the room, Well, we've got Logan and Finn. Oh yeah, escorting a logan to his and then Rory opens the door and it's a London party and she has a British accent.
And pretty pretty decent.
Pretty decent, right.
She real cute, right, like the out We skipped the bathroom scene, Yeah we did. I think the bathroom scene comes first. I think you're right.
What bathroom scene?
The bar scene where he was touching her.
You talked about it, You talked about how we and we don't want to dwell on that ground.
I do.
I've got a lot more to say about that.
So you just wanted to pass it by because it was like it was making you a gag.
No.
First of all, I was not gagging, Suzanne. Were you gagging? I was gagging at the arm rubbing, not at all. So they basically she's got to go to the bathroom. Christopher bobs in there again.
Love. I thought it was a sign that they meet in there.
Yeah, Love, And he's like, get me out of it, said.
What spy school did you go to?
So good? Get me out of with another great line, I think it says I said, yes, that's how all great divorces start.
But I like that.
Look, they have chemistry, guys, you might not like it, but they have chemistry.
They do. They do, and how so that's what you feel when you see them together. You feel the chemistry.
Yeah, look, it might be an unpopular opinion, but.
If you feel it, you feel it. I mean, I'm just.
Nobody else in this here show feels their chemistry.
I agree, I feel their chemistry.
I feel like they have like a friendship like friendliness kind of chemistry. I don't think they have like a romantic kind of chemistry.
I think you feel that your first love that you're not in love with anymore, but that still was your first love that you had a connection with way back in the day. Like I don't know, That's what I see. Like there's always going to be a little thing between them, whether it's platonic at the moment or not.
Well, it's not. But also they have chemistry. I'm not saying, Look, Luke, maybe her soulmate. True love. Will find out in season seven how they end up. Danielle Stiffer and Lorlai have chemistry. They have a connection. They have a thing. Doesn't mean he's the best choice for her, but there's a they've got a thing. They sleep together all the time, you guys, it's not like they haven't slept together during the six seasons we've known them.
Yeah, they do.
So you're talking about Christopher Laurel I sleep together all the time.
Well not all the time, but they have during the seasons we've known them.
They craik me if I'm wrong, But didn't she sleep with Christopher like right after she ended or was ending it with Max Medina.
Remember they were at the house and I.
Think they like and they like snuck out.
Yeah they got chemistry, guys, they did, they'd.
Do for you.
They don't have to like it.
I not feeling the chemistry between those two.
That's a debate.
It's just even just like.
The way they looked at each other at the day Tavil like.
And they have such a connection and somebody unspoken things. You don't have to like it.
For I'm not seeing it. I don't feel it.
Sorry, Yeah, don't be sorry, I.
Know I am. I am sorry.
It's a lot of Amy and Daniel versus Scott. It's also like, I don't dislike Christopher, right, you guys do, so, I don't know if that plays into your not feeling chemistry, And it adds to me feeling it. I don't know, but I like that bathroom scene. I was like, are they going to let you just do it?
Now?
Like, I don't know, I'm.
So like, you see, I don't know.
I thought.
Once that bathroom scene happened, I saw the writing on the wall, I realized what was about to happen. And it was just I texted the group text this morning. I'm like, I have never been so annoyed at om a Girl's episode in all six seasons. I am so annoyed. I am not it is annoyed me.
It doesn't bother me very much.
Do you know it.
Doesn't. It's like I don't see the chemistry. I don't feel the chemistry, but it really doesn't bother me too much. Do you know why? Because I've got might you're making me crazy and I can always it's my go to No, here's my vacation.
I know there's something melt.
You know, it's just making me crazy. Moorwi in this episode is just making me crazy.
I don't Yeah, that's a great point. I don't know if she's making me crazy.
Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. She knows Christopher's not it for her. She knows that, like she knows that just going back to him is easy, that going back to him like that's not her person. She knows that whether or not they have chemistry or not, she knows that. And she's throwing away something that's so awesome. Maybe not at this moment, they're going to their difficulties, but she's just like, you know what, sleep with Christopher and forget about Luke for tonight. And it's like, why do you self sabotage all the.
Good time ultimatums. I'm not a fan.
No I wanted her to do that because Luke we didn't get get his stuff together.
Like, we're not there yet. So do we have dinner first before we go to the elevator? Is it dinner first? Because there was some funny crap and that we do.
After after the London party.
We are at dinner, okay, so we have the London party first?
This is this is uh Laura La at her best.
Ah, Laura, I are you having some sort of a breakdown. She's so good because she tried to sort of do her stick to help Christopher and it's just so random and hilarious.
Is it bad to have normal too? English? I mean, it's just too good. This writing. It's nineteen twenties, it's the Algonquin Roundtable, it's the best comedy writers. It's Benchley, it's Pearlman, it's all these great short story writers. It's the best of the best. And this is a prime example of it, which is, you know, Amy and Dan are giving a global audience great literature. They're giving them the best of the best comedy writing that exists. I mean, they're crazy like a fox by S. J. Pearlman. Tell me you're not going to laugh your ass off. It's just little short stories about I don't know, fifteen of them in there. It's the funniest thing you'll ever read.
What.
I don't know any of those fancy authors. You just said nothing, but you sound super smart.
But no, no, no, they were the writers of that time and beyond that.
Is when people say they threw this season away intentionally, I disagree. I just totally disagree. I think this episode is I think they went out with one of the best episodes ever.
There's no question.
I have to just say this. The movies were not their best. I want to redo all those movies, but this was really good. This is really good.
So this is the two of them showing off.
Like I agree with you.
Look how good we are. I agree, Look at we're just gonna throw it down here, so something to remember us by. I agree with you because you ain't getting this.
No, mo, I don't think they had anything in the first six seasons that was other than Vineyard Valentine and maybe two other episodes that was like poopy, This is like they're awesome, right anyway.
So anyway, a great dinner table scene. Uh and uh, we just you know, we see uh, Lenny as a very balanced, very centered, grounded, caring, intelligent person with a sense of humor and probably way out of Christopher's league. I kind of way way way out of And I don't know what she found so appealing in Christopher. Did you think that there was amy? Did you feel chemistry between Linda and I.
Think he's a cutie pie. No, there's nothing between Laura Harden and Christopher Lenny, but he is a cutie. I could see why if I were Lenny and I've just moved to Hartford and I get invited over and there's this cutie, I'd be like, oh, kuty, all right, this isn't too bad.
All right. So now we're out in the driveway and Lenny hasn't left yet, and she apologized Laura I that she's blocking her in and they have a conversation.
That was the only flag I had. Why it was a little bit like are you okay? Like she didn't really give me enough indication that she wasn't okay.
No, I thought she gave plenty, because if you give too much, then it's bad acting. You're going to get into like you know, it was too much face acting for you.
Right, But it's a little random that all of a sudden she's just willing to have a session in the back.
Take it from somebody who knows. That was very well executed. It was very well performed.
Fine, I believe your book. I believe it was.
It was enough, trust me on that, because anymore would have been indicati and you don't want to it. You have to err on the side of caution. Uh And that's the mistake a lot of actors make, is they just go too far, and she never does, which is why she's so good. Right. Anyway, that was hysterically funny.
Edit.
It was one of the best edits, uh Gil When we smash cut right to her in the back of the seat talking about her problem. That's really good. Okay, then you know I'm fine, I gonna go all right bye God.
Two huge revelations from the back of that car right out the gate. Yeah, you love Max. No, I've never loved anyone until Luke. Wow, I wanted to Christopher.
Fine, Fine, Fine, what how did Christopher get into the scene?
No, because she she.
Never loved anyone until Luke, including Max, and that would also include Christopher.
Well there were sixteen, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah. It was a very poignant scene, very revealing, very powerful. Right.
She says she feels crappy all the time. She can't take it.
Yeah.
Yeah, And I loved the advice that Lenny gave her, like it was perfect. It's like, you need to either live with it the way it is or go for what you want and live with that consequence. But either way, you're gonna have to live with it. So decide what you want to do.
Yeah, now I'm going.
To Luke and grow a backbone and make your move.
That didn't seem very psychologist to me.
Because she was giving Yeah, I agree.
She gave them too much give advice.
I agree with you she gave a little bit.
I thought she was overstepping her bounds.
I agree with you there a little bit, but some give more advice than others.
Yeah, I mean.
She she left it up to Laurela.
I mean she was basically she said, you don't have him the way that you want him, so either ask for what you want.
Or what it is. That's her making a value judgment that she's has no knowledge of because it's patently false.
And it wasn't a hint to an overstep. No, it's not false.
She's she was absolutely right. Larelai isn't getting what she wants out of this relationship anymore.
But Luke isn't going anywhere. He loves her. He just needs some time.
I thought was look, I agree with that.
Yeah, I mean, well, okay, so you think Luke, you think there's a chance that Luke is going to back out of this marriage.
I'm not thinking that.
No, I'm I'm not thinking anything about Luke. I'm thinking of what we talked about last week, how Laura I has realized that she's kind of done with the whole thing. So it's it's a question of whether Laurel I wants to stay in this, not Luke. Lorelai is the one. Luke has shown that this is how it is. And so now it's up to Laurelai to decide if she can live with that or not.
She's had enough and she's at her last final straw and this is it exactly.
So I don't think it's about Luke backing out.
Now.
We're talking about Laura backing out because she because she.
Wants to start her life and she wants to have more another kid, and she wants to get it moving here right right right, And so that's what she.
Was telling her, like either communicate that to Luke or continue to live with it the way it is, Like, like she said, the only person that can make laurel I wait is Laurela I. It's not up to Luke. It's up to laurel I what she's willing to put up with.
Right.
This is finally, Like I'm going to rate this episode higher than I rated the last couple ones, because this is what I've been waiting for. I've been waiting for Laurel I to finally overcome that inertia. And I don't like how she did it. I think she completely went about it the wrong way. But I'm glad that she's not finally, like, you know, lurking behind trees and peeking out from.
And and really that that that back in the back seat therapy session spawned one of the great lines of laurel ies entire library. I should have been a monkey Washington Square, snappy hat? Give me funny?
Was that?
Seriously? You know where Washington Square is in New York City's down by lay. All right, now we're back with Rory and Logan.
I love this scene.
Thanks, I did too, because it was everything to find where they were in their relationship. Tell me not to go.
And they have chemistry.
They do, boy do they have chemistry.
And really good performances, just totally believable. She looked so cute. He's so cute.
They he's a master, isn't He's?
So he's great. I think he's a really good actor.
He's great, isn't he ye?
Because he's not just a one trick pony. Like he went on to do Good Good Wife and The Resident and he's really good in both. And he was the lead in The Resident and like deservedly so, like he was he's that guy's stud.
He's really Yeah.
Yeah, and you know he's on like American horror story. Now. I think we talked about that.
Yes, watched it.
I would he creeps me out, but I'd watch it for him. But it's a little too scary.
Well that was a heartbreaking scene.
Oh it really was.
Tell me to go.
That was painful. And the goodbye, Oh my god, we haven't gotten that.
I'm sorry, we're not there yet, We're not there, so painful. Yeah, I love that scene. All right now.
I felt like the one difference between them too versus Luke and Loralai is between Logan and Rory, they actually have decent communications. You're right, Like they actually communicate like well with each other.
Yeah. I agree.
That's a good point, especially one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that is the key, as we all know, to successful relationships. All right. Now, we're back at Luke's and here we come with the big It starts off very funny because Ted Rooney doesn't want to pay for a full cup of coffee when he's only had a half a cup of coffee that he drank.
This is a scene.
And then Larelai comes in all hell, fire and brimstone, and Luke's got to take it outside. He's Uh, anyway, let's I think we've discussed this, but I think we're going to have a formal discussion.
Of here's my question for you, guys. Her speech, she kind of gives a speech. Is she right?
I think she was. Let me offer my outsider's opinion here, even though I was in the scene. It was an insider's opinion. I think it was. It got heated real fast, almost to the point of it being shrill. Oh so, how how is a man supposed to respond to that? Just buckle down and say yes? So, I don't. I don't know. I'm not you know, I didn't write it. And have you ever been in a situation like this in your real life? Guys, it's a question for you. Have you ever done this to a guy I wanted to do this to? I don't.
I'm not an ultimatums I don't. I don't like ultimatums either.
I think it was the wrong approach. I don't blame her. I think I think the two of them needed a confrontation to like snap Luke out of it and make him realize that what he's been doing to Lorelai is not in her best interest or really in anyone's best interest.
But she should have known.
I mean, Luke very easily gets knocked off his axis, and she should have known better than to come at him like that, guns blazing, with an ultimatum, and she but I I mean, I can kind of see it because she was very worked up. She was, you know, practically hysterical at that point. She's just she's just had enough.
And I think he should have grabbed her. I think he should have grabbed her and said don't go, don't walk away, like we are gonna work this out, hang on, and he sort of said, I'm trying to think here, Like I think he should have not let her walk away.
Yeah, no one, no one handled that situation the right way, like Laura. I should have gone in guns a blazing, guns a blazing, like you said, Suzanne. But also Luke shouldn't have just let her walk away, like he should have said, hey, I hear you, I know where you're coming from. Let's get a let's put a date on the calendar tomorrow, you know, or something had instead of just letting her walk away, that.
Thing escalated pretty quickly and it got she got she was screaming at him, and it gets to that point. Oh sure, it was screaming. It was anger. She got angry, she went to another level of anger.
I don't think so she was set anger.
I think it's a girl upset, just so.
Emotional, Okay, but I don't I don't know that. You know, he was so taken aback by that in the moment and so caught off guard by that anger because we have we seen her ever talk to him that way.
Not quite. I said.
What he was thinking was, you know, hey, you know you don't listen, rich girl, you don't talk to me this way, you know. I think his back went up and it was like, whoa, this is over the top, and I'm not having this. Nobody nobody talks him, nobody gives me orders, and I've got a situation and now I've got the woman I love just screaming in my face. So I don't know that there's a possibility that you can come over and just sort of grab somebody and say, hey, don't go. You know, he's not that guy.
I picked up more confusion from him, like why is she so hysterical? Like what is going on right now? And then I think I think it kind of at the end of the conversation. He did get a little bit defensive, but I didn't really pick up on anger from him. I think he was confused to see. Yeah, he was where is all this coming from? Because he hasn't been seeing it this whole time. So even though it's been a slow build for those of us that have seen what Laurel I was going through, he hasn't seen that, and so to him, the whole thing was a surprise.
Right, So I was referring to the anger coming out of her toward him, which put it back on his heels. Anyway, I guess in those things, nobody wins, do they. Now we we get these nice sweeping shots of we get we get Sam Phillips. There she is singing and playing the guitar, and that's Sam Phillips right there. And she's just such a great uh performer. I mean, now I want to go see her live somewhere, you know, because she was such a great vibe and such a great voice and such a such great melodies and these songs. You know, that's a real artist there, all right. So now we're now we go to apartment four and a knock on the door of apartment four and who was behind door number four. But are not a troubadour, but not a humidor, but a Christopher, thank you very much?
And did everybody expect that? Like, Danielle, is that what you like? When the knock knock? Did you know that that was?
I knew it. I knew this was I literally knew this was happening the second the bathroom scene happened. Yeah, And it's just annoying.
And I wasn't annoyed.
I'm so annoyed. It's just so captain obvious.
I don't know.
I just wish like this might be a very unpopular opinion, but I'm just for me. I just felt like I was watching the same thing over and over and over again, like it's the fifth time I've seen this scene. But I was like, why aren't Why wouldn't like they make Luke hook up with Anna or something that would have been more entertaining for me or more shock value for me, But because it's Christopher was.
Again called Gilmore girls.
It's just I don't know, I was really annoyed.
I thought I kind of tracked and I wasn't that mad about it. But that's going to be an unpopular opinion.
Was it soapy.
It was soapy. Yeah, it was soapy, and I love that and ninety nine percent of people will hate that. I love that stuff. So that's probably why I was like.
Oh, I did too, But I didn't even think it was soapy. I just thought it was captain obvious, the same, same, same, Do we have a different storyline?
That's the definition of soapie is captain?
Yeah?
I guess yes, that's pretty.
Coming a mile away. Yeah, well, anyway, so there you go, and she goes on and.
We don't know yet what maybe they're just going to talk. We don't know yet.
Yeah, we don't know. We know sophy, so we know.
Well because at first she just goes in. Yeah, we don't get there's okay. I thought we were because it was soapy.
We know what's going to happen.
First we here, we get this sad goodbye that was really sad.
Between using will happen.
It's interesting how the Rory logan doesn't feel soapy. It feels drama, but not soapy. That really felt so genuine.
And and uh uh you want to talk about face acting here? Yeah, Hey, Matt Zukri when that elevator door, he's not looking at her.
Oh my goodness.
I've never seen a kid more devastated in my life. And it was like, you didn't tell me not to go?
Was it?
If a distracted by Rory's bangs?
Through this, I was still okay past line Hi to William and Harry for me and he says I love you, and she goes, that's a lot better than.
Saying yeah no. Her bangs like sometimes it would be fully across her phase and then other scene like other takes were across her face. I don't know this ban consist in.
The bangs were I kind of liked it. She look cute. The bangs were fine. The car service for the year and she's got the the apartment for the year and car service for another month, and like the whole thing is just like she.
Had two chances to stop him. Not just because I understand that, but he's putting out. He just keeps offering like hey, because he says to her, I don't want you to come with me to the airport because if you come, I won't get on the plane. Yeah that was so her move was to go.
She can't be that he doesn't want to be the one to stop him from like growing up.
Yeah, or the reason, you know, like you make the decision on your own that you want to stay here for me.
I don't.
I don't want to make that don't on her.
Yeah, and she understood what Mitchen was saying, so it's like.
He still wanted to hear it. We didn't, but we got some great face acting.
I think if the scene with Mitcham didn't happen, that Rory would have tried or would have said stay, please stay, Yeah, I.
Doe possibly yeah, yeah, I do yeah.
And now the finale, The last scene that the Palladinos wrote during the run of the original initial run of the show was lorele I in bed with no clothes on, and then Gigi Rungeon says, Daddy, Daddy, is she sick? And I think she's sick in many different ways, with grief, maybe with she's a little I don't know, she's confused. Yeah, she's she's confused. So the show begins with her thinking about her life and what she wants, and the show ends with her thinking about what she has just done to her life. Is she in a more more empowered place at the end of the show than she was at the beginning of the show. What's your opinion. Yeah, she's in a worse.
Spot, I do, but I like a complicated spot for sure.
She like started down here, then she went up and finally voiced her feelings, and then now she just took a big downward spiral.
Yeah, I think she.
I think it was just really impulsive and she just maybe subconsciously felt like she just needed to really drive that final nail into the car and this was going to be what does it?
I also think when she decided to go to Christopher's house, she decided that she was going to sleep with him. I don't think she was there just to like get, you know, like a friend's opinion on her situation. She went there knowing that they were going to sleep together. I think so.
I think it was a power thing. I think she wanted to feel her power.
Yeah, and somebody that just loves her.
I wish that Christopher had not gone along with it, like I wish.
Oh, come on, though, he's got an unrealistic well I I think maybe maybe it is unrealistic.
Character for a character that's spineless. Yeah, he's going to do the right thing.
No, Yeah, he couldn't be happier.
That's his character. That's his function.
I don't know. I kind of agree with you, Susane, because the last episode he did do like he did do good by her, you know.
Right, like he's taken the high road for and I feel like I have kind of the same feeling about Rory and Logan stealing the yacht, like I wish wrote Logan.
Stop it, right, that's yeah, I get it.
Okay, it's less, it's less soapy.
Right, unrealistic, But I get where your head's at. I just I just wish he.
Instead of like, you know, jumping right into bed with her, he could have been more of a friend and let her vent or whatever.
But he loves her. He loves her.
That's risky going into season seven because you don't want to make him too.
Likable, right, No, I'm with you, Susan.
But I understand what you're saying. But if he comes around full circle and he turns out to be hey, he's a really great guy in his situation, and I don't know if they want that, you know, Yeah, he has a function as a character.
Here's the unpopular opinion. Aside from the fact that I do like Christopher. Look, I like Christopher whatever, I like the ending. I like that you do this. It's a cliffhanger. It's like, oh my god, it's it's blowing everything up. It's like, what is that happening?
Couldn't have not had a more different reaction. I mean, it was not a cliffhanger to me. I literally saw him calling him all away. I'm like, Okay, I'm waiting for the scene. I'm waiting for the scene and waiting for the scene.
It came.
I was annoyed, and then I just I was just annoyed. I was in such a bad mood.
After I was like, yeah, I'm like stoked for season seven.
Really I'm not. I just was like, God, I just want I wanted I wanted it to be different. I didn't want it to be a Christopher payoff.
I didn't what do you want? Max?
Oh?
I would have loved Max. That would have been amazing. I thought that would that would have been really fun.
Jason, Jason, Because this is just getting us to see, like, right, if Luke would have done what I wanted him to do, it would have been a to that could have just been a whole different Season seven. Do you know what I'm saying. It's like, right, but as a viewer, I'm tired of being dissatisfied.
Right, I want to get's an interesting payoff, that is an interesting point and.
Joy that is.
Six years of chronic dissatisfaction for the fans.
I am not I'm enjoying the point, Yeah it is, but I'm enjoying the curveball. I'm like, Okay, it's not a curveball.
It's a pizza pie in your face again again.
While you're trying to clean off the other sauce from your face, You're like, again, I haven't.
Again, Jesus again. This is what I get for being a Gilmore girl.
I mean, here's my thing. You guys love Amy and Dan, right, you love them. You're like, this is a perfect episode. Then I trust they know what they were doing and I liked it, So I think they did it. I think. I'm like, I'm in m they know what they're doing.
It. I don't think the fans are too happy with this episode.
And with a scene well we'll see.
Well, I mean, I don't think they were too happy with it.
I was.
I didn't like it.
I was at the time too. I was at the time.
At this point, they're probably saying, you know and all. I sound like a broken record, but it's like, where the hell's the wedding?
Yeah, but I don't we're not ready for it yet.
No, the fans are more than ready for it. They were ready for it.
See I do like a runaway bride wedding, Like do something with that something.
There's a wedding, wedding.
Be positive, life affirming guys.
Say they ran off and a looped, Say they ran off and a loaped? What is season seven?
Then?
Just them being happy?
How about Luke shows up in April hating Laura instead of blinking Christopher. Why doesn't Luke show up in an elvis suit and said, hey lady, or I'm taking you to Nashville. I'm gonna marry you, you know, and have a big, cheesy wedding.
Or why not?
There's Yeah, there's them being happy. It's okay them being happy because there was always you know, a fight with Rory. Yeah, we never got to enjoy them being a happy couple.
Yeah, if Laura and Luke ended up together, there's so many outlying factors that can screw things up. April and uh, Max Medina Christopher, like you can't have Christopher come back and try to sleep with Laurlai while she's married to Luke.
Like you could have all that happening.
But it's like this this nothing can stop this love. Nothing right. That's why it should have been Oh well it wasn't.
Hi, Tarna has just joined Tara in our last two minutes. Would you like to give your thoughts on this episode?
Yeah, I skipped this episode usually, so that's not my favorite.
It's it's a rough one to watch. Oh, such a I disagree.
Chronic dissatisfaction from the fan base because they want Lucan at Elvis suit dragging her off to I feel like, I mean, I feel for a Vegas for a quick wedding. I don't know what was said, but I don't want to drag it on.
But for me, I feel like the worst part was that she went to Christopher. I think if they broke off the wedding and the like and that was it, I wouldn't have been as upset as if if she didn't.
Go to Christopher.
That's the part that bothered me.
Wow, But now I can.
Go back and listen to what you guys said. Yeah, that's a good point.
Though, it'll be a good point if they if Luke and Laurel I had just broken up, that that would be one thing, but her actually going to Christopher like takes it to the next thing.
Yeah, like I was level no, next level of torture, dumb. I'm making a TV show here too, where I'm like the door.
And it's like turning into like Dante's Inferno. It's like the level.
I want to be honest. I'm gonna be honest. If I was watching this for the first you know why, I am watching it for the first time. But like back then, I wouldn't have come back for the next season. I don't think.
Well, interestingly, some people.
Did it goes.
That's interesting that you say that because it had a big ratings drop off in season seven.
Yeah, I would have stopped. I would have been like, this is the same thing. I'm done. I'm over.
I think if you like like, I like Christopher, so I like Amy.
I like Christopher, and I'm still annoyed like God from his from a character's perspective, I enjoy him on my TV screen. All Right, I did not like that.
What do we what are we giving this episode?
Gang?
We got to wrap this up?
We get who goes first? I'll do it. I'll go first this time.
Go ahead, what's you're measuring? Uh?
What's your measuring sticks are? Give?
Give the rating and then the measuring stick.
Oh.
I thought we give the measuring stick first.
You give it second.
I'm giving it.
Ten volvos, ten volvos.
Marilynd Rice cub song about a Volvo.
Oh okay, uh, Danielle.
I'm going to give it six point five.
Wow.
I'm going to give it six point five plate of Paea.
Wow.
It's my lowest I've ever rated an episode.
I'm going to give it six point seven British flags.
Wow.
Wow. Uh, Susan, I.
Went up a little bit on my ratings. Just like I said before, I was happy that that Lurla I finally got out.
Of her rut. So I give it eight.
Uh Rory Gilmore Astronomy buildings to scale.
Uh, I'm going to rate it two ways. Up until the last scene, I'm giving it a ten. But that last scene I'm giving a zero. Oh okay, so that that's an average. So I'm gonna it's gonna take it down to I mean, for me, it's drifting around. It was such an enjoyable episode to watch, though, and it was so disappointing at the end. I agree, So I'm gonna be down there. Can one scene effect a score that much.
Now, you know?
Just such a brilliant episode, just such a brilliant episode. And then that last scene. Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna be down there in the sixes with you guys. And I wanted to give it a ten. For me, it was a ten to ten all the way, ten plus, and then that last scene. I was just like, oh boy, so I'm gonna give it a six point seven three seven already bed sheets?
Oh my god?
Inappropriate ending to disappointing season six.
I just don't.
I'm not, but it's such some of the best writing was in season six, some of the great jokes, some of the great performances in season six.
Yeah, why do we give season six? Overall? Don't give it yet, But I think over the next you know a little bit here, we're going to do some special things for everybody before we start season seven. I want to know what everybody's take was on season six.
But not yet, Yeah, not yet. All right, So that's going to wrap her up, folks.
Season six. We only have one season one? What was your favorite line, did anybody have I gave mine during.
Yeah, we kind of game during Susanne.
Mine was at Richard and Emily's. When Laurel I said, it's the astronomy building. You have to be able to see it from outer space.
Danielle, did you have one?
Yeah? Mine was three. Sorry I have to say all three, but it's between one and then I can't. It's between Patty and Luke. Patty goes, there's nothing sexier than a man in tights. Luke says, stop imagine me imagining me and tights Patty, and she goes, it's a free country, Honey.
I don't have one on me, but I have one that we didn't do yet, which I'm sure we'll break down in pop culture. But I won't be ignored Dan because for those people that got it, I had to google that.
Oh I have a backup if you want it.
Oh, sure, I'll take your back up.
My backup was Taylor saying there's no jumping in the town square.
Remember one, Susanne, what what was your top one? I missed it?
Oh the when Laurel I said it's about the big lettering, it's the astronomy.
Oh yeah, sorry from literally just said that two seconds ago. Welcome to the show, Amy.
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