Recorded live during NYC Marathon weekend at the Tracksmith pop-up at The Brooklyn Circus in partnership with Movemint, this special episode features Nnenna Lynch—Chair of the Board of Directors for New York Road Runners (NYRR), the first woman and first Black person to hold the role, a former NCAA Champion and Rhodes Scholar, and founder of Xylem Projects.

Together, Emily and Nnenna dig into the massive running boom taking over New York City, what it really takes to navigate leadership and community growth at NYRR, and the journey of stepping away from elite competition due to vocal cord dysfunction. Nnenna shares how letting go of high-pressure expectations and embracing "setting the bar low" helped her rebuild a healthy, lifelong relationship with running. They also dive into why running serves as essential "psychic hygiene," the upcoming release of her book Why We Run: The Meaning Behind the Miles, and the viral backstory behind those legendary photos with Jennifer Lopez and Madonna.

IN THIS EPISODE
A Historic Seat at the Table: What it means to Nnenna to serve as NYRR’s first female and first Black board chair, balancing representation for young girls with decades of earned expertise and dedication.
Managing NYC’s Running Boom: How NYRR is addressing overwhelming race demand—from the 9+1 program evolution to expanding free community initiatives like Open Run across 16 city parks.
The Collegiate Dynasty & Pro Heartbreak: Winning four consecutive NCAA cross-country titles at Villanova, competing at the Olympic Trials, and the devastating physical setback of undiagnosed vocal cord dysfunction that led to her early retirement.
The Power of Setting the Bar Low: Why letting go of the "all-or-nothing" training mentality and committing to just two runs a week unlocked consistency, joy, and a published New York Times op-ed.
Extracurriculars & Mission-Driven Work: Balancing community development and affordable housing through her firm with non-profit board leadership and youth running infrastructure across NYC.
Running as "Psychic Hygiene": Ditching the GPS watch and phone to run purely for mental clarity, calm, and equanimity.
The Story Behind the Snapshots: How Nnenna ended up toeing the starting line at Madison Square Garden with Jennifer Lopez and riding an NYC bus alongside a pre-fame Madonna in 1979.
Writing Why We Run: The inspiration behind her upcoming book exploring the evolving emotional motivations and rewards of running through every season of life.

QUOTABLE MOMENTS
"If you could bottle running or make running a pill, it would be a total blockbuster."
"You become very comfortable with discomfort. You realize that in order to grow in anything, you have to push yourself—and that pushing yourself is uncomfortable."
"In order to be your best as an athlete, you actually need the support of many people... you really do need a community of people to be your best self."
"I had this mental model of: if you're doing something athletic, it needs to be six days a week, it needs to have an ambitious goal... but as a result, I would go for it and then crash. Consistency was my goal. That was it."
"Be kind to yourself."

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Recorded live during NYC Marathon weekend at the Tracksmith pop-up at The Brooklyn Circus in partnership with Movemint, this special episode features Nnenna Lynch&mdash;Chair of the Board of Directors for New York Road Runners (NYRR), the first woman and first Black person to hold the role, a former NCAA Champion and Rhodes Scholar, and founder of Xylem Projects.
Together, Emily and Nnenna dig into the massive running boom taking over New York City, what it really takes to navigate leadership and community growth at NYRR, and the journey of stepping away from elite competition due to vocal cord dysfunction. Nnenna shares how letting go of high-pressure expectations and embracing "setting the bar low" helped her rebuild a healthy, lifelong relationship with running. They also dive into why running serves as essential "psychic hygiene," the upcoming release of her book Why We Run: The Meaning Behind the Miles, and the viral backstory behind those legendary photos with Jennifer Lopez and Madonna.
IN THIS EPISODE
<ul>
<li>A Historic Seat at the Table: What it means to Nnenna to serve as NYRR&rsquo;s first female and first Black board chair, balancing representation for young girls with decades of earned expertise and dedication.</li>
<li>Managing NYC&rsquo;s Running Boom: How NYRR is addressing overwhelming race demand&mdash;from the 9+1 program evolution to expanding free community initiatives like Open Run across 16 city parks.</li>
<li>The Collegiate Dynasty &amp; Pro Heartbreak: Winning four consecutive NCAA cross-country titles at Villanova, competing at the Olympic Trials, and the devastating physical setback of undiagnosed vocal cord dysfunction that led to her early retirement.</li>
<li>The Power of Setting the Bar Low: Why letting go of the "all-or-nothing" training mentality and committing to just two runs a week unlocked consistency, joy, and a published New York Times op-ed.</li>
<li>Extracurriculars &amp; Mission-Driven Work: Balancing community development and affordable housing through her firm with non-profit board leadership and youth running infrastructure across NYC.</li>
<li>Running as "Psychic Hygiene": Ditching the GPS watch and phone to run purely for mental clarity, calm, and equanimity.</li>
<li>The Story Behind the Snapshots: How Nnenna ended up toeing the starting line at Madison Square Garden with Jennifer Lopez and riding an NYC bus alongside a pre-fame Madonna in 1979.</li>
<li>Writing Why We Run: The inspiration behind her upcoming book exploring the evolving emotional motivations and rewards of running through every season of life.</li>
</ul>
QUOTABLE MOMENTS
<ul>
<li>"If you could bottle running or make running a pill, it would be a total blockbuster."</li>
<li>"You become very comfortable with discomfort. You realize that in order to grow in anything, you have to push yourself&mdash;and that pushing yourself is uncomfortable."</li>
<li>"In order to be your best as an athlete, you actually need the support of many people... you really do need a community of people to be your best self."</li>
<li>"I had this mental model of: if you're doing something athletic, it needs to be six days a week, it needs to have an ambitious goal... but as a result, I would go for it and then crash. Consistency was my goal. That was it."</li>
<li>"Be kind to yourself."</li>
</ul>
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Hurdle is where real stories meet next-level ambition. Host, veteran journalist and coach Emily Abbate, interviews the most inspiring women in sports and wellness, peeling back the curtain on their journeys through vulnerable, deep conversation. Learn the secrets to their success, including the grit, glory, and crucial mindset lessons that help her level-up. Each conversation, a powerful reminder that we get to overcome, and embrace each hurdle to live happier, healthier, more motivated lives. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.

Hurdle is where real stories meet next-level ambition. Host, veteran journalist and coach Emily Abbate, interviews the most inspiring women in sports and wellness, peeling back the curtain on their journeys through vulnerable, deep conversation. Learn the secrets to their success, including the grit, glory, and crucial mindset lessons that help her level-up. Each conversation, a powerful reminder that we get to overcome, and embrace each hurdle to live happier, healthier, more motivated lives. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.

Hurdle with Emily Abbate

Hurdle is where real stories meet next-level ambition. Host, veteran journalist and coach Emily Abbate, interviews the most inspiring women in sports and wellness, peeling back the curtain on their journeys through vulnerable, deep conversation. Learn the secrets to their success, including the grit, glory, and crucial mindset lessons that help her level-up. Each conversation, a powerful reminder that we get to overcome, and embrace each hurdle to live healthier, happier, more motivated lives. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.

Hurdle is where real stories meet next-level ambition. Host, veteran journalist and coach Emily Abbate, interviews the most inspiring women in sports and wellness, peeling back the curtain on their journeys through vulnerable, deep conversation. Learn the secrets to their success, including the grit, glory, and crucial mindset lessons that help her level-up. Each conversation, a powerful reminder that we get to overcome, and embrace each hurdle to live healthier, happier, more motivated lives. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.

Cultivating Psychic Hygiene: Nnenna Lynch On Shaping NYRR, Elevating Community & Meeting Yourself Where You Are

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