How many of us meander and stumble along in “a life that is expected of us?” For Rochelle Pattison, that meant pursuing a successful career in law and finance, getting married and having kids.

Growing up as a young boy in a regional NSW town, Rochelle knew that she was different, but believed she had to hide that difference. As a teenager, she worked hard, and excelled at sport, music and academia while boarding at an all-boys boarding school in Melbourne. So, when her Dad pulled her aside to tell her she was “too prissy,” she was hurt and terrified.

After living under a painful cloak of secrecy, lies, and shame for decades, Rochelle made a decision to explore her agony in therapy, as well as open up to the only person who knew her secret, in a quest to discover her true self.

In this conversation with Rochelle, we learn what it’s like to live with unbearable shame and the distress of living a life that’s inauthentic to who you are at your very core. We also glean emotional insights into what can ensue when you tell your partner of 29 years that you’re not who they think you are.

However, don’t be fooled. This is not only a conversation of gender dysphoria, but a powerful story of the fight to live as the real you, the you that you always sensed you were. And that makes it a profoundly human story that could be yours or mine, but luckily for our treasured Human Cogs listeners, this is Rochelle’s story.


Guest: Rochelle Pattison
Socials: Instagram, LinkedIn

Hosts: Sabina Read and Madeleine Grummet
Producer: Daryl Missen atPurple Wax

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How many of us meander and stumble along in “a life that is expected of us?” For <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eastmelbgirl/">Rochelle Pattison</a>, that meant pursuing a successful career in law and finance, getting married and having kids.
Growing up as a young boy in a regional NSW town, Rochelle knew that she was different, but believed she had to hide that difference. As a teenager, she worked hard, and excelled at sport, music and academia while boarding at an all-boys boarding school in Melbourne. So, when her Dad pulled her aside to tell her she was “too prissy,” she was hurt and terrified.
After living under a painful cloak of secrecy, lies, and shame for decades, Rochelle made a decision to explore her agony in therapy, as well as open up to the only person who knew her secret, in a quest to discover her true self.
In this conversation with Rochelle, we learn what it’s like to live with unbearable shame and the distress of living a life that’s inauthentic to who you are at your very core. We also glean emotional insights into what can ensue when you tell your partner of 29 years that you’re not who they think you are.
However, don’t be fooled. This is not only a conversation of gender dysphoria, but a powerful story of the fight to live as the real you, the you that you always sensed you were. And that makes it a profoundly human story that could be yours or mine, but luckily for our treasured Human Cogs listeners, this is Rochelle’s story.
<a href="https://www.madeleinegrummet.com/"> </a>Guest: Rochelle Pattison Socials: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/eastmelbgirl/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rochelle-pattison-b9874a13/">LinkedIn</a>
Hosts: <a href="https://www.sabinareadpsychology.com.au/">Sabina Read</a> and <a href="https://www.madeleinegrummet.com/">Madeleine Grummet</a> Producer: Daryl Missen at <a href="https://purplewax.com.au/">Purple Wax</a>
Human Cogs is available on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/human-cogs-podcast/id1525840415">Apple</a>, <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/human-cogs-podcast#/">Stitcher</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1okDf71XeRCI5RnfxhC6OD">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cub21ueWNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2QvcGxheWxpc3QvNjViYWY0NDctYTQ1ZC00YzE2LTg0ODMtYWJlYzAwNmEwYWM0L2FmZTc0NDMzLTA3N2ItNDA4Zi04NTIwLWFiZWMwMDZhYjJlZC9kMTdhNjM0NS0xM2EyLTQ0NjUtYmU4Zi1hYmVjMDA2ZGI1YjkvcG9kY2FzdC5yc3M?sa=X&amp;ved=0CAYQrrcFahcKEwiowqf95uvqAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg">Google Podcasts</a> or via our <a href="https://www.humancogs.com/guests">website</a>.
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What if the stories we hide are the ones that shape us most?

Human Cogs is the podcast that rips the veneer off everyday life to reveal the raw human truths that lie underneath our everyday lives.

Hosted by award-winning entrepreneur, startup investor and ABC journalist and presenter Madeleine Hanger (Grummet), alongside psychologist and media commentator Sabina Read, each episode unpacks big ideas, untold truths and the messy magic of being human.

From life’s darkest moments to its most profound joys, our extraordinary guests share secrets they’ve never told, surprising insights into love, loss, success and identity — and the hard-won wisdom that just might change the way you live, think and feel.

If you're curious about what really makes people tick this is the podcast for you.

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What if the stories we hide are the ones that shape us most?
Human Cogs is the podcast that rips the veneer off everyday life to reveal the raw human truths that lie underneath our everyday lives.
Hosted by award-winning entrepreneur, startup investor and ABC journalist and presenter&nbsp;<a href="https://linktr.ee/MadeleineGrummet">Madeleine Hanger (Grummet)</a>, alongside psychologist and media commentator <a href="https://www.sabinareadpsychology.com.au/">Sabina Read</a>, each episode unpacks big ideas, untold truths and the messy magic of being human.
From life&rsquo;s darkest moments to its most profound joys, our <a href="https://www.humancogs.com/guests">extraordinary guests</a> share secrets they&rsquo;ve never told, surprising insights into love, loss, success and identity &mdash; and the hard-won wisdom that just might change the way you live, think and feel.
If you're curious about what really makes people tick this is the podcast for you.
🎧 Subscribe now and listen wherever you get your podcasts. 🌐 <a href="http://www.humancogs.com" data-start="1147" data-end="1192">www.humancogs.com</a>

Human Cogs Podcast

Humans Cogs brings you stories that matter, hard-won wisdom and raw conversations about what's really going on in people's lives.

Hosted by award-winning entrepreneur, journalist and investor Madeleine Grummet and psychologist and media contributor Sabina Read, each episode features raw conversations with extraordinary guests who lift the lid on their real lives to help you explore what you think you know about yourself, and the changing world around you.

Human Cogs is a point of universal connection for us all, exploring the things that bring us together, and the things that tear us apart.

Humans Cogs brings you stories that matter, hard-won wisdom and raw conversations about what's really going on in people's lives. Hosted by award-winning entrepreneur, journalist and investor <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/madeleinegrummet">Madeleine Grummet</a> and psychologist and media contributor <a href="https://www.sabinareadpsychology.com.au/">Sabina Read</a>, each episode features raw conversations with <a href="https://www.humancogs.com/guests">extraordinary guests</a> who lift the lid on their real lives to help you explore what you think you know about yourself, and the changing world around you. Human Cogs is a point of universal connection for us all, exploring the things that bring us together, and the things that tear us apart.

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