We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This is how Men thick and I heard radio podcast. Hi guys, some Hunter March and you're listening to How Men Think, where basically I'm going to unveil what I can without being excommunicated by my people's you know what though, honestly, I don't really care about them. Men are the worst, right So I'm gonna give you all the down and dirty secrets. If you guys don't know who I am. I host a show on e called Nightly Pop and I host a show on Netflix called Sugar Rush. So I hope you uh enjoy this episode. I'm looking forward to answering your questions. But before I do that, let me do eleven questions about myself. So the first one is what are you known for? Tell us about yourself. Um, well, besides those two shows, I think I'm known for my breakfast skillets. It's something that I've made for quite a few people. So women, some very lucky women, have stayed the night. We'll start this off right now with this stand. The night's a tricky one. I am. I have a king bed for this reason. I don't want to really be touching in the evening. And it's not because I don't like the person, It's it's the opposite. I like them so much that it's going to distract me from sleeping. Let's get into the next one. Who are you in your personal life? But what a lot of people don't know about me is that outside of my personality on television and in my podcast with Paris Hilton, this is Paris. Uh what I didn't know. What people don't know about me is that I'm pretty reserved, like in my personal life and and I deal with you know, the same anxiety and other things that a lot of people deal it. But I have used my humor and everything to kind of compensate. And uh So, so if you really get to know me in my personal life, it's still funny and it's still jokes, but you realize that it's there's also a deeper side of me where I like to cook and paint and garden. Um And if you're watching the video, you can see some of my paintings behind me, So go check that out. Uh. Three shows that I'm binge watching right now, I'm binge watching Get Back the Beatles documentary on Disney Plus. I just I've never seen such brilliant people collaborate in such a cool way. And as someone who's starting my own YouTube channel back up and I have hired somebody and we're collaborating every day. I literally showed my employee. I was like, this is what I want us to be like it is like the Beatles, which I realized I'm asking this young guy who I started working with a week ago. I'm like, how come you're not my lenin right now? But I, uh yeah, that's I'm binge watching that. I'm also binge watching um Attack on Titan, which is an anime show I don't never watch. May my brother was like, you should check it out. My brother likes anime and I watched it and it's really good. It's an intense show, but it's good. And then the final thing that I'm binge watching is um a lot of YouTube. I'm getting back into YouTube right now, so I watch a lot of YouTube videos. I love YouTube. It's how I started in this industry. And um, yeah, what is my favorite food? Well, I already mentioned breakfast skillets and that would be my favorite food. I love all breakfast. I just started doing a it's a very French way of of scrambling eggs. But basically you do a super slow scramble in butter, like the eggs should barely be cooking as you're whisking them slowly. Let me do this seductively, whisk those eggs so slowly. Not with a whisk. Instead, take a small spatula, a spoon even, and just slowly push it around the pan, letting the butter seep into every crevice of those runny, runny eggs. Then, is it's cooking up, don't add the salt yet, Get your hand off the salt. We're gonna place that over a nice piece of sour dough that's got a thin layer of butter on it. Butter's your friend, not your enemy. Then we're gonna top it with chopped chives and thinly sliced smoked salmon chopped up as well, and then we're gonna add ourselves a finishing flake salt, a little bit of pepper, and a dash of olive oil on top. Oh my god, I'm trying so hard. Um, all right, let's let's move on. But that that is an enjoyable food for me, right now. Tell us about your career. Well, I'm very lucky with my career I've been. I started as an intern for this company called Awesome's TV, which was a YouTube channel, and I had my own little YouTube channel, but you know, it wasn't anything that was paying any bills. And when I got the job at Awesomeness, I just grinded and grinded for like five, six, seven years and eventually became the face of the channel. And then I was hosting, probably hosted thousands of videos for them, and I told myself, I was like, Oh, wouldn't it be cool to be on TV? And then I got a game show network show, and then all my friends were all I was like, you guy should watch this show. And they're like, we don't have cable and I was like, okay, that makes it hard to watch the show. Neither did I at the time, so I couldn't even watch my own show. And then Netflix called Netflix, was like, we want you to do this baking show called Sure Rush, and I was like absolutely. Did not tell them that I was gluten intolerant until season three, um, and then uh, that only shot for a couple of weeks a year, and then we were done. I said, how cool would it be to get a show that I could shoot every day, and then Nightly Pop came around, which we shoot four days week and it's been a dream. And we're about to hit episode five hundred of that show, which is just so rare and television. I'm so blessed my entire career. I'm very thankful for. And uh, yeah, what's my biggest fear in life? Um, it's it's between two different things I really don't like, uh, the idea of bones breaking, Like I don't want to get hurt. I hate getting hurt. It sucks. And then the second one is dying alone. No, if you are just experiencing who I am as a person right now, and this these eleven questions are your intro. Oh boy, I'm sorry this is an aggressive intro. What is your biggest pet? Peeve? My biggest I hate when people don't say thank you, just be appreciative. It's so easy to say thank you. I say thank you like it's you know, candy on Halloween. I give it to everybody. I don't care, like, thank you for so simple. Someone holds a door if like, a guy holds a door open for me on my way into Starbucks, and I'm like more than five feet away. I literally look at dead in the Hind I go, thank you so much, man, that was nice, just because I just think and so like, if I ever take a girl out to dinner, I don't mind. I always love paying. I I believe in that I should pay just because I asked a person on a date. Um, if they don't say thank you, it just it rubs me the wrong way. It's it's last date. Um. What makes you the most happy? I think making my family laugh makes me the most happy. You know. I think getting to do what I do. I get the chance to try and joke around for a lot of people, and luckily I get to do it day and day out. But there's nothing like seeing my dad or my mom laugh, or my brother laugh a lot at something. It really makes me happy. What is your ideal Saturday morning? UM? Ideal Saturday morning would be waking up already off to a good start, better than it could have been. Um. Then making a really yummy breakfast, hanging out with my dog Lucy, taking her on a walk, doing a workout, but preferably playing a sport like paddle, tennis or basketball, all in the backyard. Something to just get the left flowing, and then again hanging out with friends I love and going to the beach or doing something. Yeah, and work, I do love work. I'm very lucky that I like my job, so i'd get some editing done or some producing. Are you more of the athlete or the armschare quarterback? The thing is neither. Really, I'm athletic, but nobody's calling me saying, hunter, we need a fifth on the on the court. It's just not happening. I'm good, I've played sports my whole life, but I'm not that good. And then the armshair quarterback. Now, I don't care about other grown men. I don't get invested like that. I hosted a Super Bowl party. I had you know, sixty seventy people at the house, and I watched maybe twenty five seconds of the game. I rather, I just enjoyed having people over and and taking care of them more than I enjoyed the sports. And finally, what keeps you motivated? It's mostly money. Um, just the ability to accrue wealth, hold it over people with less wealth and kind of dictate their lives and in the way that I see fit. Because I have so much money, that would be that would be not it. I'm kidding. What keeps me motivated? I I get I've gotten some opportunities to work with UH people who have disabilities with this company called Ability First, this program called Ability First, and got to teach painting classes and stuff like that. And seeing them excited about the guy from Sugar Rush is like the only time I'm excited to be the guy from sugar Rush. So doing that getting people excited to like go try cooking or get excited to try and make some jokes and be funny, that's exciting to me. Anyway. Those are the eleven questions with me. Now we're going to get into some callers, but before we do that, we're gonna say a quick break. Welcome back. I hope you guys bought all those products. Let's go ahead and talk to our first caller. Hi, how's it going good? How are you? I'm fantastic, is it, Mara? Yes? It is all right, Maura. Well, I'd like to hear more of you right now. So what's your question? Okay? So, um I am born and raised in southern California and I have loved growing up here. It's very beautiful, but um in l A unfortunately, UM I feel like, especially with like social media, like it's really hard to find someone who's not like looking for the best, shiniest, most perfect person. Which brings me to my question, Um, Like, I mean in l A, where there's like actresses and models and Instagram influencers, how does a normal girl who is an in the industry stand out? It's a great question because one, I don't think it's as valid as as some people fear, you know, like there are is much as l A is known for the glitz and glamour, the people here are still you know, like I consider myself one of those normal people, Like I don't consider myself I don't go out to the parties or the clubs. I don't meet people that way. Um, when what have I what have I been doing to meet people? So what are you saying? Are you do you want to know how to meet people or how to stand out at Do you already like go to places and you just want to stand out at those places? Um? I guess a little bit of both, a little bit of both, but especially I think, um, I just feel like I don't stand out. I just feel like I can't compare it to these like women I don't know. Well, first of all, these women can't even compare to themselves, you know, like the Instagram look and the TikTok and obviously when they're on TV and in the movies or whatever, if there musicians, it's it's so much is put into building an image that really isn't them, and I think they obviously are aware of that. And then in the same with men, they all kind of put this image up. But what a lot of people don't realize is like that goes away and then you are stuck with the real person. And if the real person is great, whether it's um, someone who's really smart or really funny or just really genuine. I love authenticity in a partner almost more than I love anything else. Um, you you'll stand out to the right person. Undoubtedly. The thing that happens in l A is, and it happens with men and women. They come to l A looking for something better than themselves, right, because a lot of people who come to l A want something. They want to be famous or successful, and if they don't have that yet, they do anything to elevate their status. But at some point you meet a guy or a woman who isn't who doesn't need to like date somebody or do something for the cloud for lack of a less disgusting word, And you mean someone who's ready to meet someone genuine And I'm at that stage in my life now where, um, I don't need to date someone in the industry by any means. I would love to date somebody who I met getting coffee who had nothing to do with this industry. And ah, just made me laugh. That's it. So you know, I'm still single, so I think we're probably in the same boat more. I don't know if that answers your question. It does. Actually, that made me feel a lot better, um, because you're I mean, I'm at the end of the day, I'm looking for authenticity too, So yeah, I mean I would actually, you know, just kind of be thankful that you haven't gotten stuck with one of the guys who's you know, like I always the one thing I would not want for one of my friends or families for them to be with somebody who, especially like in l A where they're just in it for the wrong reasons. It's so common, um, And I think like you, being single and obviously being aware of this industry in this world means You're already leaps and bounds above a lot of other people who come here, so I think you'll find the right person for sure, just a matter of In terms of meeting people. I love going to some of these, like group classes and stuff like that, whether it's painting or cooking or even workout classes. Sometimes it's odd to go up to somebody, but if you if you here's the thing. If a guy's single and you're single and there's an attraction, all you have to do is look at him twice and he'll come up to if he if he wants to. You know, it's not about the big aggressive move, but um, you can or you just go up to me whatever you want. But yeah, anyway, I hope that helps much. I love that it really did. Thank you so much. Now you're welcome. Thank you all right, Bye bye, Hilarissa, Hi Hunter, how's it going. Everything's good. I hear you have a question. I do so obviously, with the state of the world over the past two years, I haven't had many dating opportunities, so I'm ready to get back in there, you know. But nowadays I really don't know how the game is played, and I really don't want to play games anymore so. Growing up, I was taught to play hard to get, so you know, that was supposed to keep a guy's attention or keep his interest. And I kind of feel like that's the wrong kind of attention these days, and it brings the wrong kind of men, Like is this still a thing? Like how much hard to get do you play? What if you're tired of playing games? What are the rules in twenties one? You too? And what's the best way to date? Yeah? I wish that I was smarter so that I didn't fall for the hard to get thing all the time. But boy, oh boy, when a girl is hard to get, my monkey brain turns on and I am I it does affect it. But then eventually, hard to get means that at some point you still have the chance of getting to the point of a relationship, right do you get past the games? And if I wasn't gonna like in the beginning when you weren't playing hard to get, I'm not gonna like you after we're done playing hard to get? You know? So I think like it does work unfortunately on a lot of guys and on women too, Like I've played it accidentally, just in times where like I started talking to a girl and it just happened to be the busiest two weeks of my life. And and then afterwards we'll be talking. She's like, I really thought you didn't like me, like I thought, And I was like, no, no, no no, no, I was busy, but I understood that it is attracted of um to be busy. And I think that that's the difference. You shouldn't be hard to get. To be hard to get, you should be prioritizing yourself and your job and your hobbies and your friends and your family before any guy can come into your life and destruct any of that. And when you are doing that, you're not playing hard to get. You just are a little harder to get. But it's all while just again making sure that you are putting you first in the healthiest way possible. UM. I think the better way to look at it would be like, look at the antithesis of that, which should be to just be constantly available for virtually a stranger. Doesn't matter if you've got a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, ten, dates, that person is still a stranger for the most part. UM, So you know, it's not about again, it's not about games, but everybody likes someone who's who's working on them. Everybody likes somebody who's busy, successful, career driven in so that I hope that answers that question about that. But in terms of the other games of of of dating right now, I think people are a little tired of games. I think we've been in a pandemic for too long where if you don't like games, now it's kind of the chance to date because people just want to cut to the to the meat of a relationship and kind of have somebody, especially if we've been single for the past, you know, two years of isolation. Yes, is that you've been single for the pandemic or did you have someone to so you at this point? What are you looking for? Mostly? I mean just something that can start off as a good strong friendship, good common interests, and something that has the opportunity to blossom into more, but without the uncertainty like is this person really into me? Am I wasting my time? Like I understand what you were saying about prioritizing yourself and I totally agree with that, um, but you also want to know like this that we're both on the same page and we're both moving forward and we're open to more, but taking it slow and also knowing where we're going as opposed to being totally confused on what's going on. Yeah, I think having the conversation again, it doesn't negate the hard to get It doesn't. It doesn't stop like that when you have that conversation. I was talking to a girl recently and I was I liked her, and I told her on the phone because we were both really busy. She went back to New York. I was in l A And on the phone, I just was kind of like, you know, it's nice talking to you. I enjoy it because I got a little crush. You know, saying you have a little crush is and isn't a bad thing. Again, It's it's not like I want you to date me. I'm gonna take over your life. It's not that. You know, you can still put those little signs out there. And I think when you put those little signs out there, if you're being really really objective, you know what signs you get back. There are times where some guy will say something and you're like, what was that. Does that means that mean he's into me? Or does that mean he's not into me, and usually if you have to really ask, it means he's not giving you what you're given him. Yeah, you know, like in my mind, a guy and a woman both should make it somewhat known after the second, third, fourth, fifth date that there's interest. Otherwise you wouldn't be going on these dates. You know, you wouldn't be on the fifth date if you weren't into them. So you know, again, it's not about jump in the line and basically saying I love you or you know, on date two. But you can let him know and see what his responses. Just say something like I enjoy spend time with you, because that could be anything. But if he goes yeah, you're like it's like my sister, you know, you're like, all right, I'm out of here. But if he goes, I jest, I want to spend more time with you. Then hopefully that calms that anxiety that we all get when we date, you know, like do they like me as much as I like them? Blah blah blah. So I think I think there's little ways to do it with where you're not putting it all on the table, and it's like doing little litmus tests and seeing if if their feedback gives you the answers you're looking for. Absolutely, that's great advice. Thank you, You're welcome. Everybody's saying it's great advice, which makes me wonder if you were told to say it's great advice at the end of each of these calls. And that laugh makes me think that that's the case, that was genuine. Okay, well, thank you, Leisa. Uh let me know how it goes damn me afterwards. I'm ready to put it to the test. All right, nice bye bye. Hi Stephanie, Hi are you? I'm good. I love your voice. Thank you. I think like just being separated by the zoom and only hearing the voice. I'm painting the most stunning image of like you and where you are. It's like buy a fire somewhere and in there's snow outside. I don't know why I envisioned that very cozy thoughts. Yes, yeah, well Stephanie, what can I answer for you? Well, um, so I was hanging out with my boyfriend last night and mind then to everything I said earlier, I mean you can still have that thought, all right. Um. We were hanging out and he got a couple of text messages from a group message, which he's in a few groups, so it wasn't strange or anything, but I did ask him what group it was, and he said it was a bunch of his guy friends. They have a group message where they message each other about relationships, stuff like problems in their relationship or positives in their relationship. They basically just ask each other a bunch of advice. And I thought, wow, like, do you guys really do this? Is this more than just these guys or like I know, with my girlfriends, I text each one of them and we over text and over share and all that stuff. But me curious and a little fascinated on the subject of do guys have group messages like this? Is it something I should worry about what he's sharing? Is the over sharing her personal details? Or is it just quote unquote lacker room talk or something like that. Or Yeah, it's tough for me to know because I unless you're dating the most emotionally intelligent, vulnerable straight man on the planet and all of his friends are that guy as well, it's not the same conversations you're having with your girlfriends. Yeah, um, I think I've had those conversations, but like one on one with a guy friend, and I've like been very vulnerable where I'm like, I don't like this feeling at all about telling him something that I'm dealing with. It makes me uncomfortable and I just need someone to talk to. But I'm not sending that in a group chat, and I don't think he is either, Like I don't think he's saying anything that you should necessarily worry about. But I think he may have powdered and put some lipstick on that group chat so that it didn't sound as probably a crude as it might be with his friends. More so, maybe his single friends or um other people kind of talking about that stuff, Like I don't know. I mean, again, I don't know your boyfriend. Maybe he is that guy, but he's really nice and he's really sweet, Like we have great communication, he's my best friend. We talked about a lot of stuff, so you know, I can't imagine something he would reach out to a bunch of his guys friends for that would be like, I don't know something big, I don't know. This is why I'm calling in really, because we can talk about a lot of things. And who would you ask a panel of five of your friends, like what would you ask them about, unless it was something funny or unless I like, was weak or you know, something like that. But then I wonder, is it that deep? Do they do? You all have these deep connections and these similar issues that you deal within relationships that you seek out a panel of your closest buddies. I just I think it's funny that I'm imagining him and his five friends sitting on shares on the view talking and having a show doing it, and it's just not the view. What they're talking about is not in my mind. Again, I could be wrong, but I think it's probably closer to locker room talk. I don't think again, if you have that was my next question, Do you guys have a good open dialogue? And if the answers yes, what you said it is, then I don't think you have anything to worry about. I think men go to their friends and put a male spin on the conversation, whether it becomes again a little bit less vulnerable maybe instead of being like, oh, she hurt me because she didn't uh say that she liked my outfit, whatever, they might come to their friends and be like, you like this, look right, yeah, step says she hated it. And I was like, what the you know, it's like guys talk like that to their friends that they don't have to admit that. Like, oh, it hurt me when she said this. As long as he's not like reaching out and being like this crazy woman that I'm with, she's ridiculous because I mean, I know he's not. He and I, like I said, we talked about everything. We joke a lot. Um yeah, that's what I'm picturing, is like she yelled at me for wearing another plaid shirt or something. Just all you have to do is go into his phone and search in his messages for crazy girl and plaid shirt and you'll know pretty quick. Um yeah. I mean you can always ask him like hey, you just be really vulnerable with him. Again. I love vulnerability and relationship because it gives the other person nowhere to go besides the truth, right, Like if you if you kind of came out of in an accusatory way or from a place of just like mistrust, it's different than being than going to him and saying, hey, by the way, Ever since you said the thing about the group chat, it's been on my mind and I just I'm like a little nervous that like, I don't know why, and maybe it's maybe I'm being a little um, a little cuckoo, but it's just been on my mind. See what he says, Because if it was me and the group chat really had nothing bad about my partner, I would say, take a look at the group chat whatever you want. Yeah, it struck me that it was like we talk about our relationships, and I was like, the hell do you talk about literally Yeah, I mean, did you ask him to see it? I mean no, when if I did, he would probably absolutely show it to me. But I also we provide each other with space for growth, and if he wants to have privacy with his guy friends, like, that's cool. But I don't know. I just can see us all at a party coming up, you know, and and all of us girls seeing around and me being like, oh my god, they have this group message, and I just don't want to be confronted by anything surprising. And I also don't want to be in a situation with all these friends where I'm like, oh, you know about my private parts or oh you know about like all of this. And I'm sure that they do know some of those things, but I was just curious to know if it was a common thing for guys to have group messages like this, well, again, this is just personal experience. But if it was with a girl that I actually really liked, that like my family and friends had met, if my friends know the girl, I never share details about our personal life like that, like anything about private parts or sex capades or whatever it is like that just that doesn't come up because it's so private. But if if I just got back from a trip to New York and I come back and talk to my friends with without showing them a picture of telling them a name, I will share those details a little bit more the way guys do. So as a girl friend who seems to be with a great guy, and you seem to be a great girl, I don't think you have anything to worry about. I don't think he's sharing those details hopefully, But again, you can always ask, because if he is, that is an invasion of your privacy and it'll just lead to mistrust and it's not it's not fair to you, So feel free to ask a question. But I also think if you trust him, you don't even have to worry about it. Well, thank you, that's a really great advice. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Enjoy the rest of your day, Stephanie. Enjoy that fireplace on that bear skin rug um in the mountains with my cocoa. Get out of your stuff. You're distracting all right. Bye? Bye. Hi Sassia, Hi, how are you good? How are you today? I'm good? What's uh? What's your question? So? I have a large group of friends, and I guess we're just, you know, pretty closely acquainted, knowing each other from college. So I mean, we have our own opinions about one another, and we have a couple in particular, they've been through a lot of ups and downs. So I am a little concerned for their relationship. It just doesn't seemed to be going well. It feels like it's time for them to go their separate ways. But I just don't know how to approach this. Um. Yeah, it's really toxic as far as their relationship goes. And I just don't even know how to start this conversation with them. Are you closer with either of them? I'm probably closer with her. She's like we knew each other before we met. She met him and started dating him. And have you talked to be honest right now, Stacie, have you talked to any of the other girls or guys in the group about this toxic relationship. Um, there's definitely been some talks with uh, you know, amongst most of us. Uh, just none, None of us have really approached this with them, and we just feel like, you know, they're always walking on egg shells. One day they're perfectly fine, the other day they're in a heated argument. The consensus what's your friend's consensus on whether or not you should say, we have all kind of come to the conclusion and one of us need to step up and definitely have this this conversation with them and just make it known to them like that this is not a way to have a relationship. There's probably a better out there for them both to to just have a healthy relationship with Yeah, I mean, I think it would not be a bad thing to do, especially if if there is like a consensus among the friend group. Not bringing that up obviously because you don't want them to know that, you know, you kind of speaking behind their back, even if it is for their best intentions. But if maybe you went to the girl privately obviously not to the couple as a whole and said like, hey, are you happy with so and so are you and maybe trying to see if they'll come to you first and open up to you first before you bring it to them, you know, so it doesn't seem like you are kind of instigating, uh, a tricky conversation. So if you went to them and you said, how's everything was, so and so I noticed you guys weren't talking really at the last event, or I noticed that you didn't come to this thing. Is everything okay? And maybe if you put out the energy like hey, I want to help you, if that person wants to be helped, I think they'll they'll pick up on that energy and they will go ahead and do the right thing and and have a conversation with you. But some people are so stuck in their own bubble or they're embarrassed. A lot of people are embarrassed by unhealthy relationships and then they'll never bring it up because it's almost like admitting that they've failed. Like some people feel like if they're in an unhealthy relationship that they've failed, which is obviously not the case. Um So if that's the case, if they're not giving, if she's not giving, you anything you want in terms of a response or an openness to talk about it. You can just say, by the way, I have seen this and this behavior, and I just want to let you know that I think you deserve better, whatever however you want to phrase it. But I don't think that's a conversation that you should avoid having because it could be the light bulb switch that they need to be like, oh my god, I'm not crazy for thinking that I was in this thing. And how come none of my friends have mentioned it? Do they all think that this relationship is better than it is? Am I the one who's wrong here? There's that opportunity, there's that potential too, So I think you should have the conversation. Yeah, for sure, she's definitely want to isolate herself whenever she becomes angry with him and they're in an argument. So I definitely sense that, and I think when, like I bring it up to her, it will be in that moment just like, hey, you feel this way right now, so you know this is clearly not a healthy relationship. I think there's plenty of other people you could you could be dating right now that will treat you well. You're not walking on eggshells, feeling like everything you say is avoiding an argument with him, So definitely something to to bring up. I wish you the best luck with it. I think you seem like a great friend who cares about another person, and well that might seem obvious to you, it is a very special quality to have a friend too would put your happiness before their own comfort, because there are a lot of friends out there who don't say anything because they don't want to be uncomfortable. So what you're doing is not only okay. I think it's the right thing to do, and I wish you the best of luck. Thank you, You're welcome, good luck. Let me know how it goes. Yeah, definitely will be in touch, all right, bye bye, All right. Well, first of all, thank you to everybody who called in. I had a pleasure talking to you and I hope it helped. If you guys enjoyed listening to the podcast, make sure to subscribe. How men think it's a fantastic show. I hope to come back soon, and of course go listen to This is Paris with myself in Paris Hilton she If you also know who she is, then get off from under your rock. People, everybody knows who she is, and of course watch Nightly Pop on Monday through Thursday somewhere around eleven o'clock. They keep changing it, and of course follow me on Instagram let me know if you enjoyed the episode. I'd love to chat. If you have questions, you can DMN me and uh maybe next time I come on I'll answer them. But have a lovely day everybody. Bye. This is how men think. 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We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This is how Men thick and I heard radio podcast. Hi guys, some Hunter March and you're listening to How Men Think, where basically I'm going to unveil what I can without being excommunicated by my people's you know what though, honestly, I don't really care about them. Men are the worst, right So I'm gonna give you all the down and dirty secrets. If you guys don't know who I am. I host a show on e called Nightly Pop and I host a show on Netflix called Sugar Rush. So I hope you uh enjoy this episode. I'm looking forward to answering your questions. But before I do that, let me do eleven questions about myself. So the first one is what are you known for? Tell us about yourself. Um, well, besides those two shows, I think I'm known for my breakfast skillets. It's something that I've made for quite a few people. So women, some very lucky women, have stayed the night. We'll start this off right now with this stand. The night's a tricky one. I am. I have a king bed for this reason. I don't want to really be touching in the evening. And it's not because I don't like the person, It's it's the opposite. I like them so much that it's going to distract me from sleeping. Let's get into the next one. Who are you in your personal life? But what a lot of people don't know about me is that outside of my personality on television and in my podcast with Paris Hilton, this is Paris. Uh what I didn't know. What people don't know about me is that I'm pretty reserved, like in my personal life and and I deal with you know, the same anxiety and other things that a lot of people deal it. But I have used my humor and everything to kind of compensate. And uh So, so if you really get to know me in my personal life, it's still funny and it's still jokes, but you realize that it's there's also a deeper side of me where I like to cook and paint and garden. Um And if you're watching the video, you can see some of my paintings behind me, So go check that out. Uh. Three shows that I'm binge watching right now, I'm binge watching Get Back the Beatles documentary on Disney Plus. I just I've never seen such brilliant people collaborate in such a cool way. And as someone who's starting my own YouTube channel back up and I have hired somebody and we're collaborating every day. I literally showed my employee. I was like, this is what I want us to be like it is like the Beatles, which I realized I'm asking this young guy who I started working with a week ago. I'm like, how come you're not my lenin right now? But I, uh yeah, that's I'm binge watching that. I'm also binge watching um Attack on Titan, which is an anime show I don't never watch. May my brother was like, you should check it out. My brother likes anime and I watched it and it's really good. It's an intense show, but it's good. And then the final thing that I'm binge watching is um a lot of YouTube. I'm getting back into YouTube right now, so I watch a lot of YouTube videos. I love YouTube. It's how I started in this industry. And um, yeah, what is my favorite food? Well, I already mentioned breakfast skillets and that would be my favorite food. I love all breakfast. I just started doing a it's a very French way of of scrambling eggs. But basically you do a super slow scramble in butter, like the eggs should barely be cooking as you're whisking them slowly. Let me do this seductively, whisk those eggs so slowly. Not with a whisk. Instead, take a small spatula, a spoon even, and just slowly push it around the pan, letting the butter seep into every crevice of those runny, runny eggs. Then, is it's cooking up, don't add the salt yet, Get your hand off the salt. We're gonna place that over a nice piece of sour dough that's got a thin layer of butter on it. Butter's your friend, not your enemy. Then we're gonna top it with chopped chives and thinly sliced smoked salmon chopped up as well, and then we're gonna add ourselves a finishing flake salt, a little bit of pepper, and a dash of olive oil on top. Oh my god, I'm trying so hard. Um, all right, let's let's move on. But that that is an enjoyable food for me, right now. Tell us about your career. Well, I'm very lucky with my career I've been. I started as an intern for this company called Awesome's TV, which was a YouTube channel, and I had my own little YouTube channel, but you know, it wasn't anything that was paying any bills. And when I got the job at Awesomeness, I just grinded and grinded for like five, six, seven years and eventually became the face of the channel. And then I was hosting, probably hosted thousands of videos for them, and I told myself, I was like, Oh, wouldn't it be cool to be on TV? And then I got a game show network show, and then all my friends were all I was like, you guy should watch this show. And they're like, we don't have cable and I was like, okay, that makes it hard to watch the show. Neither did I at the time, so I couldn't even watch my own show. And then Netflix called Netflix, was like, we want you to do this baking show called Sure Rush, and I was like absolutely. Did not tell them that I was gluten intolerant until season three, um, and then uh, that only shot for a couple of weeks a year, and then we were done. I said, how cool would it be to get a show that I could shoot every day, and then Nightly Pop came around, which we shoot four days week and it's been a dream. And we're about to hit episode five hundred of that show, which is just so rare and television. I'm so blessed my entire career. I'm very thankful for. And uh, yeah, what's my biggest fear in life? Um, it's it's between two different things I really don't like, uh, the idea of bones breaking, Like I don't want to get hurt. I hate getting hurt. It sucks. And then the second one is dying alone. No, if you are just experiencing who I am as a person right now, and this these eleven questions are your intro. Oh boy, I'm sorry this is an aggressive intro. What is your biggest pet? Peeve? My biggest I hate when people don't say thank you, just be appreciative. It's so easy to say thank you. I say thank you like it's you know, candy on Halloween. I give it to everybody. I don't care, like, thank you for so simple. Someone holds a door if like, a guy holds a door open for me on my way into Starbucks, and I'm like more than five feet away. I literally look at dead in the Hind I go, thank you so much, man, that was nice, just because I just think and so like, if I ever take a girl out to dinner, I don't mind. I always love paying. I I believe in that I should pay just because I asked a person on a date. Um, if they don't say thank you, it just it rubs me the wrong way. It's it's last date. Um. What makes you the most happy? I think making my family laugh makes me the most happy. You know. I think getting to do what I do. I get the chance to try and joke around for a lot of people, and luckily I get to do it day and day out. But there's nothing like seeing my dad or my mom laugh, or my brother laugh a lot at something. It really makes me happy. What is your ideal Saturday morning? UM? Ideal Saturday morning would be waking up already off to a good start, better than it could have been. Um. Then making a really yummy breakfast, hanging out with my dog Lucy, taking her on a walk, doing a workout, but preferably playing a sport like paddle, tennis or basketball, all in the backyard. Something to just get the left flowing, and then again hanging out with friends I love and going to the beach or doing something. Yeah, and work, I do love work. I'm very lucky that I like my job, so i'd get some editing done or some producing. Are you more of the athlete or the armschare quarterback? The thing is neither. Really, I'm athletic, but nobody's calling me saying, hunter, we need a fifth on the on the court. It's just not happening. I'm good, I've played sports my whole life, but I'm not that good. And then the armshair quarterback. Now, I don't care about other grown men. I don't get invested like that. I hosted a Super Bowl party. I had you know, sixty seventy people at the house, and I watched maybe twenty five seconds of the game. I rather, I just enjoyed having people over and and taking care of them more than I enjoyed the sports. And finally, what keeps you motivated? It's mostly money. Um, just the ability to accrue wealth, hold it over people with less wealth and kind of dictate their lives and in the way that I see fit. Because I have so much money, that would be that would be not it. I'm kidding. What keeps me motivated? I I get I've gotten some opportunities to work with UH people who have disabilities with this company called Ability First, this program called Ability First, and got to teach painting classes and stuff like that. And seeing them excited about the guy from Sugar Rush is like the only time I'm excited to be the guy from sugar Rush. So doing that getting people excited to like go try cooking or get excited to try and make some jokes and be funny, that's exciting to me. Anyway. Those are the eleven questions with me. Now we're going to get into some callers, but before we do that, we're gonna say a quick break. Welcome back. I hope you guys bought all those products. Let's go ahead and talk to our first caller. Hi, how's it going good? How are you? I'm fantastic, is it, Mara? Yes? It is all right, Maura. Well, I'd like to hear more of you right now. So what's your question? Okay? So, um I am born and raised in southern California and I have loved growing up here. It's very beautiful, but um in l A unfortunately, UM I feel like, especially with like social media, like it's really hard to find someone who's not like looking for the best, shiniest, most perfect person. Which brings me to my question, Um, Like, I mean in l A, where there's like actresses and models and Instagram influencers, how does a normal girl who is an in the industry stand out? It's a great question because one, I don't think it's as valid as as some people fear, you know, like there are is much as l A is known for the glitz and glamour, the people here are still you know, like I consider myself one of those normal people, Like I don't consider myself I don't go out to the parties or the clubs. I don't meet people that way. Um, when what have I what have I been doing to meet people? So what are you saying? Are you do you want to know how to meet people or how to stand out at Do you already like go to places and you just want to stand out at those places? Um? I guess a little bit of both, a little bit of both, but especially I think, um, I just feel like I don't stand out. I just feel like I can't compare it to these like women I don't know. Well, first of all, these women can't even compare to themselves, you know, like the Instagram look and the TikTok and obviously when they're on TV and in the movies or whatever, if there musicians, it's it's so much is put into building an image that really isn't them, and I think they obviously are aware of that. And then in the same with men, they all kind of put this image up. But what a lot of people don't realize is like that goes away and then you are stuck with the real person. And if the real person is great, whether it's um, someone who's really smart or really funny or just really genuine. I love authenticity in a partner almost more than I love anything else. Um, you you'll stand out to the right person. Undoubtedly. The thing that happens in l A is, and it happens with men and women. They come to l A looking for something better than themselves, right, because a lot of people who come to l A want something. They want to be famous or successful, and if they don't have that yet, they do anything to elevate their status. But at some point you meet a guy or a woman who isn't who doesn't need to like date somebody or do something for the cloud for lack of a less disgusting word, And you mean someone who's ready to meet someone genuine And I'm at that stage in my life now where, um, I don't need to date someone in the industry by any means. I would love to date somebody who I met getting coffee who had nothing to do with this industry. And ah, just made me laugh. That's it. So you know, I'm still single, so I think we're probably in the same boat more. I don't know if that answers your question. It does. Actually, that made me feel a lot better, um, because you're I mean, I'm at the end of the day, I'm looking for authenticity too, So yeah, I mean I would actually, you know, just kind of be thankful that you haven't gotten stuck with one of the guys who's you know, like I always the one thing I would not want for one of my friends or families for them to be with somebody who, especially like in l A where they're just in it for the wrong reasons. It's so common, um, And I think like you, being single and obviously being aware of this industry in this world means You're already leaps and bounds above a lot of other people who come here, so I think you'll find the right person for sure, just a matter of In terms of meeting people. I love going to some of these, like group classes and stuff like that, whether it's painting or cooking or even workout classes. Sometimes it's odd to go up to somebody, but if you if you here's the thing. If a guy's single and you're single and there's an attraction, all you have to do is look at him twice and he'll come up to if he if he wants to. You know, it's not about the big aggressive move, but um, you can or you just go up to me whatever you want. But yeah, anyway, I hope that helps much. I love that it really did. Thank you so much. Now you're welcome. Thank you all right, Bye bye, Hilarissa, Hi Hunter, how's it going. Everything's good. I hear you have a question. I do so obviously, with the state of the world over the past two years, I haven't had many dating opportunities, so I'm ready to get back in there, you know. But nowadays I really don't know how the game is played, and I really don't want to play games anymore so. Growing up, I was taught to play hard to get, so you know, that was supposed to keep a guy's attention or keep his interest. And I kind of feel like that's the wrong kind of attention these days, and it brings the wrong kind of men, Like is this still a thing? Like how much hard to get do you play? What if you're tired of playing games? What are the rules in twenties one? You too? And what's the best way to date? Yeah? I wish that I was smarter so that I didn't fall for the hard to get thing all the time. But boy, oh boy, when a girl is hard to get, my monkey brain turns on and I am I it does affect it. But then eventually, hard to get means that at some point you still have the chance of getting to the point of a relationship, right do you get past the games? And if I wasn't gonna like in the beginning when you weren't playing hard to get, I'm not gonna like you after we're done playing hard to get? You know? So I think like it does work unfortunately on a lot of guys and on women too, Like I've played it accidentally, just in times where like I started talking to a girl and it just happened to be the busiest two weeks of my life. And and then afterwards we'll be talking. She's like, I really thought you didn't like me, like I thought, And I was like, no, no, no no, no, I was busy, but I understood that it is attracted of um to be busy. And I think that that's the difference. You shouldn't be hard to get. To be hard to get, you should be prioritizing yourself and your job and your hobbies and your friends and your family before any guy can come into your life and destruct any of that. And when you are doing that, you're not playing hard to get. You just are a little harder to get. But it's all while just again making sure that you are putting you first in the healthiest way possible. UM. I think the better way to look at it would be like, look at the antithesis of that, which should be to just be constantly available for virtually a stranger. Doesn't matter if you've got a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, ten, dates, that person is still a stranger for the most part. UM, So you know, it's not about again, it's not about games, but everybody likes someone who's who's working on them. Everybody likes somebody who's busy, successful, career driven in so that I hope that answers that question about that. But in terms of the other games of of of dating right now, I think people are a little tired of games. I think we've been in a pandemic for too long where if you don't like games, now it's kind of the chance to date because people just want to cut to the to the meat of a relationship and kind of have somebody, especially if we've been single for the past, you know, two years of isolation. Yes, is that you've been single for the pandemic or did you have someone to so you at this point? What are you looking for? Mostly? I mean just something that can start off as a good strong friendship, good common interests, and something that has the opportunity to blossom into more, but without the uncertainty like is this person really into me? Am I wasting my time? Like I understand what you were saying about prioritizing yourself and I totally agree with that, um, but you also want to know like this that we're both on the same page and we're both moving forward and we're open to more, but taking it slow and also knowing where we're going as opposed to being totally confused on what's going on. Yeah, I think having the conversation again, it doesn't negate the hard to get It doesn't. It doesn't stop like that when you have that conversation. I was talking to a girl recently and I was I liked her, and I told her on the phone because we were both really busy. She went back to New York. I was in l A And on the phone, I just was kind of like, you know, it's nice talking to you. I enjoy it because I got a little crush. You know, saying you have a little crush is and isn't a bad thing. Again, It's it's not like I want you to date me. I'm gonna take over your life. It's not that. You know, you can still put those little signs out there. And I think when you put those little signs out there, if you're being really really objective, you know what signs you get back. There are times where some guy will say something and you're like, what was that. Does that means that mean he's into me? Or does that mean he's not into me, and usually if you have to really ask, it means he's not giving you what you're given him. Yeah, you know, like in my mind, a guy and a woman both should make it somewhat known after the second, third, fourth, fifth date that there's interest. Otherwise you wouldn't be going on these dates. You know, you wouldn't be on the fifth date if you weren't into them. So you know, again, it's not about jump in the line and basically saying I love you or you know, on date two. But you can let him know and see what his responses. Just say something like I enjoy spend time with you, because that could be anything. But if he goes yeah, you're like it's like my sister, you know, you're like, all right, I'm out of here. But if he goes, I jest, I want to spend more time with you. Then hopefully that calms that anxiety that we all get when we date, you know, like do they like me as much as I like them? Blah blah blah. So I think I think there's little ways to do it with where you're not putting it all on the table, and it's like doing little litmus tests and seeing if if their feedback gives you the answers you're looking for. Absolutely, that's great advice. Thank you, You're welcome. Everybody's saying it's great advice, which makes me wonder if you were told to say it's great advice at the end of each of these calls. And that laugh makes me think that that's the case, that was genuine. Okay, well, thank you, Leisa. Uh let me know how it goes damn me afterwards. I'm ready to put it to the test. All right, nice bye bye. Hi Stephanie, Hi are you? I'm good. I love your voice. Thank you. I think like just being separated by the zoom and only hearing the voice. I'm painting the most stunning image of like you and where you are. It's like buy a fire somewhere and in there's snow outside. I don't know why I envisioned that very cozy thoughts. Yes, yeah, well Stephanie, what can I answer for you? Well, um, so I was hanging out with my boyfriend last night and mind then to everything I said earlier, I mean you can still have that thought, all right. Um. We were hanging out and he got a couple of text messages from a group message, which he's in a few groups, so it wasn't strange or anything, but I did ask him what group it was, and he said it was a bunch of his guy friends. They have a group message where they message each other about relationships, stuff like problems in their relationship or positives in their relationship. They basically just ask each other a bunch of advice. And I thought, wow, like, do you guys really do this? Is this more than just these guys or like I know, with my girlfriends, I text each one of them and we over text and over share and all that stuff. But me curious and a little fascinated on the subject of do guys have group messages like this? Is it something I should worry about what he's sharing? Is the over sharing her personal details? Or is it just quote unquote lacker room talk or something like that. Or Yeah, it's tough for me to know because I unless you're dating the most emotionally intelligent, vulnerable straight man on the planet and all of his friends are that guy as well, it's not the same conversations you're having with your girlfriends. Yeah, um, I think I've had those conversations, but like one on one with a guy friend, and I've like been very vulnerable where I'm like, I don't like this feeling at all about telling him something that I'm dealing with. It makes me uncomfortable and I just need someone to talk to. But I'm not sending that in a group chat, and I don't think he is either, Like I don't think he's saying anything that you should necessarily worry about. But I think he may have powdered and put some lipstick on that group chat so that it didn't sound as probably a crude as it might be with his friends. More so, maybe his single friends or um other people kind of talking about that stuff, Like I don't know. I mean, again, I don't know your boyfriend. Maybe he is that guy, but he's really nice and he's really sweet, Like we have great communication, he's my best friend. We talked about a lot of stuff, so you know, I can't imagine something he would reach out to a bunch of his guys friends for that would be like, I don't know something big, I don't know. This is why I'm calling in really, because we can talk about a lot of things. And who would you ask a panel of five of your friends, like what would you ask them about, unless it was something funny or unless I like, was weak or you know, something like that. But then I wonder, is it that deep? Do they do? You all have these deep connections and these similar issues that you deal within relationships that you seek out a panel of your closest buddies. I just I think it's funny that I'm imagining him and his five friends sitting on shares on the view talking and having a show doing it, and it's just not the view. What they're talking about is not in my mind. Again, I could be wrong, but I think it's probably closer to locker room talk. I don't think again, if you have that was my next question, Do you guys have a good open dialogue? And if the answers yes, what you said it is, then I don't think you have anything to worry about. I think men go to their friends and put a male spin on the conversation, whether it becomes again a little bit less vulnerable maybe instead of being like, oh, she hurt me because she didn't uh say that she liked my outfit, whatever, they might come to their friends and be like, you like this, look right, yeah, step says she hated it. And I was like, what the you know, it's like guys talk like that to their friends that they don't have to admit that. Like, oh, it hurt me when she said this. As long as he's not like reaching out and being like this crazy woman that I'm with, she's ridiculous because I mean, I know he's not. He and I, like I said, we talked about everything. We joke a lot. Um yeah, that's what I'm picturing, is like she yelled at me for wearing another plaid shirt or something. Just all you have to do is go into his phone and search in his messages for crazy girl and plaid shirt and you'll know pretty quick. Um yeah. I mean you can always ask him like hey, you just be really vulnerable with him. Again. I love vulnerability and relationship because it gives the other person nowhere to go besides the truth, right, Like if you if you kind of came out of in an accusatory way or from a place of just like mistrust, it's different than being than going to him and saying, hey, by the way, Ever since you said the thing about the group chat, it's been on my mind and I just I'm like a little nervous that like, I don't know why, and maybe it's maybe I'm being a little um, a little cuckoo, but it's just been on my mind. See what he says, Because if it was me and the group chat really had nothing bad about my partner, I would say, take a look at the group chat whatever you want. Yeah, it struck me that it was like we talk about our relationships, and I was like, the hell do you talk about literally Yeah, I mean, did you ask him to see it? I mean no, when if I did, he would probably absolutely show it to me. But I also we provide each other with space for growth, and if he wants to have privacy with his guy friends, like, that's cool. But I don't know. I just can see us all at a party coming up, you know, and and all of us girls seeing around and me being like, oh my god, they have this group message, and I just don't want to be confronted by anything surprising. And I also don't want to be in a situation with all these friends where I'm like, oh, you know about my private parts or oh you know about like all of this. And I'm sure that they do know some of those things, but I was just curious to know if it was a common thing for guys to have group messages like this, well, again, this is just personal experience. But if it was with a girl that I actually really liked, that like my family and friends had met, if my friends know the girl, I never share details about our personal life like that, like anything about private parts or sex capades or whatever it is like that just that doesn't come up because it's so private. But if if I just got back from a trip to New York and I come back and talk to my friends with without showing them a picture of telling them a name, I will share those details a little bit more the way guys do. So as a girl friend who seems to be with a great guy, and you seem to be a great girl, I don't think you have anything to worry about. I don't think he's sharing those details hopefully, But again, you can always ask, because if he is, that is an invasion of your privacy and it'll just lead to mistrust and it's not it's not fair to you, So feel free to ask a question. But I also think if you trust him, you don't even have to worry about it. Well, thank you, that's a really great advice. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Enjoy the rest of your day, Stephanie. Enjoy that fireplace on that bear skin rug um in the mountains with my cocoa. Get out of your stuff. You're distracting all right. Bye? Bye. Hi Sassia, Hi, how are you good? How are you today? I'm good? What's uh? What's your question? So? I have a large group of friends, and I guess we're just, you know, pretty closely acquainted, knowing each other from college. So I mean, we have our own opinions about one another, and we have a couple in particular, they've been through a lot of ups and downs. So I am a little concerned for their relationship. It just doesn't seemed to be going well. It feels like it's time for them to go their separate ways. But I just don't know how to approach this. Um. Yeah, it's really toxic as far as their relationship goes. And I just don't even know how to start this conversation with them. Are you closer with either of them? I'm probably closer with her. She's like we knew each other before we met. She met him and started dating him. And have you talked to be honest right now, Stacie, have you talked to any of the other girls or guys in the group about this toxic relationship. Um, there's definitely been some talks with uh, you know, amongst most of us. Uh, just none, None of us have really approached this with them, and we just feel like, you know, they're always walking on egg shells. One day they're perfectly fine, the other day they're in a heated argument. The consensus what's your friend's consensus on whether or not you should say, we have all kind of come to the conclusion and one of us need to step up and definitely have this this conversation with them and just make it known to them like that this is not a way to have a relationship. There's probably a better out there for them both to to just have a healthy relationship with Yeah, I mean, I think it would not be a bad thing to do, especially if if there is like a consensus among the friend group. Not bringing that up obviously because you don't want them to know that, you know, you kind of speaking behind their back, even if it is for their best intentions. But if maybe you went to the girl privately obviously not to the couple as a whole and said like, hey, are you happy with so and so are you and maybe trying to see if they'll come to you first and open up to you first before you bring it to them, you know, so it doesn't seem like you are kind of instigating, uh, a tricky conversation. So if you went to them and you said, how's everything was, so and so I noticed you guys weren't talking really at the last event, or I noticed that you didn't come to this thing. Is everything okay? And maybe if you put out the energy like hey, I want to help you, if that person wants to be helped, I think they'll they'll pick up on that energy and they will go ahead and do the right thing and and have a conversation with you. But some people are so stuck in their own bubble or they're embarrassed. A lot of people are embarrassed by unhealthy relationships and then they'll never bring it up because it's almost like admitting that they've failed. Like some people feel like if they're in an unhealthy relationship that they've failed, which is obviously not the case. Um So if that's the case, if they're not giving, if she's not giving, you anything you want in terms of a response or an openness to talk about it. You can just say, by the way, I have seen this and this behavior, and I just want to let you know that I think you deserve better, whatever however you want to phrase it. But I don't think that's a conversation that you should avoid having because it could be the light bulb switch that they need to be like, oh my god, I'm not crazy for thinking that I was in this thing. And how come none of my friends have mentioned it? Do they all think that this relationship is better than it is? Am I the one who's wrong here? There's that opportunity, there's that potential too, So I think you should have the conversation. Yeah, for sure, she's definitely want to isolate herself whenever she becomes angry with him and they're in an argument. So I definitely sense that, and I think when, like I bring it up to her, it will be in that moment just like, hey, you feel this way right now, so you know this is clearly not a healthy relationship. I think there's plenty of other people you could you could be dating right now that will treat you well. You're not walking on eggshells, feeling like everything you say is avoiding an argument with him, So definitely something to to bring up. I wish you the best luck with it. I think you seem like a great friend who cares about another person, and well that might seem obvious to you, it is a very special quality to have a friend too would put your happiness before their own comfort, because there are a lot of friends out there who don't say anything because they don't want to be uncomfortable. So what you're doing is not only okay. I think it's the right thing to do, and I wish you the best of luck. Thank you, You're welcome, good luck. Let me know how it goes. Yeah, definitely will be in touch, all right, bye bye, All right. Well, first of all, thank you to everybody who called in. I had a pleasure talking to you and I hope it helped. If you guys enjoyed listening to the podcast, make sure to subscribe. How men think it's a fantastic show. I hope to come back soon, and of course go listen to This is Paris with myself in Paris Hilton she If you also know who she is, then get off from under your rock. People, everybody knows who she is, and of course watch Nightly Pop on Monday through Thursday somewhere around eleven o'clock. They keep changing it, and of course follow me on Instagram let me know if you enjoyed the episode. I'd love to chat. If you have questions, you can DMN me and uh maybe next time I come on I'll answer them. But have a lovely day everybody. Bye. This is how men think. 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