Every year, Holly Wainwright promises herself she won’t burn out again - and every year, she does. 

When she told me that, I laughed - not because it’s funny, but because I’ve been there too. Last year, I hit my own wall of exhaustion so hard it became the inspiration for my next book. 

In this bonus episode, I sit down with Holly Wainwright - bestselling author and co-host of Mamamia Out Loud - for an honest conversation about burnout, energy, and why breaking the “do-crash-repeat” cycle is harder than it sounds. 

We talk about the promises we make to ourselves, the boundaries we fail to keep, and how to start protecting the parts of life that matter most - our health, focus, and family. 

Holly and I discuss: 
The patterns that keep Holly stuck in the burnout cycle 
Why she chose “nup” as her word of the year - and how that’s going 
The privilege and guilt tied up in saying no 
How she’s restructuring her week to protect creative focus and family time 
The surprising rewards that keep her motivated (including worm farms) 
The “Yes-But” strategy that sets boundaries without guilt 
My “Never Again” list and how it helps me avoid burnout triggers 
Why rebuilding energy is a constant recalibration, not a one-time fix 
Taylor Swift’s reminder to treat your energy like a luxury item 

Key Quotes 

“Almost every year I say I’m not going to get myself to that place again - and then I do.”  

“Rebuilding your energy isn’t a one-off fix. It’s a constant recalibration.”  

Connect with Holly on Instagram and LinkedIn, listen to Mamamia Out Loud and Mid, and check out her latest book He Would Never here. 

Listen to Part 1 of this interview here. 

 

My latest book The Health Habit is out now. You can order a copy here: https://www.amantha.com/the-health-habit/ 

Connect with me on the socials: 
Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanthaimber) 
Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/amanthai) 

If you are looking for more tips to improve the way you work and live, I write a weekly newsletter where I share practical and simple-to-apply tips to improve your life. You can sign up for that at https://amantha-imber.ck.page/subscribe 

Visit https://www.amantha.com/podcast for full show notes from all episodes. 

Get in touch at amantha@inventium.com.au 

Credits: 
Host: Amantha Imber 
Sound Engineer: The Podcast Butler 

Every year, Holly Wainwright promises herself she won&rsquo;t burn out again - and every year, she does.&nbsp;
When she told me that, I laughed - not because it&rsquo;s funny, but because I&rsquo;ve been there too. Last year, I hit my own wall of exhaustion so hard it became the inspiration for my next book.&nbsp;
In this bonus episode, I sit down with Holly Wainwright - bestselling author and co-host of Mamamia Out Loud - for an honest conversation about burnout, energy, and why breaking the &ldquo;do-crash-repeat&rdquo; cycle is harder than it sounds.&nbsp;
We talk about the promises we make to ourselves, the boundaries we fail to keep, and how to start protecting the parts of life that matter most - our health, focus, and family.&nbsp;
Holly and I discuss:&nbsp;
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</ul>
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</ul>
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</ul>
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</ul>
Key Quotes&nbsp;
&ldquo;Almost every year I say I&rsquo;m not going to get myself to that place again - and then I do.&rdquo;&nbsp;&nbsp;
&ldquo;Rebuilding your energy isn&rsquo;t a one-off fix. It&rsquo;s a constant recalibration.&rdquo;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Connect with Holly on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wainwrightholly/">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/holly-wainwright-903558146/">LinkedIn</a>, listen to <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/">Mamamia Out Loud</a> and <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mid/mid/">Mid</a>, and check out her latest book He Would Never <a href="https://www.panmacmillan.com.au/9781761567780/">here</a>.&nbsp;
Listen to Part 1 of this interview <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/how-i-work/hiw-holly-wainwright-main-ep-v2">here</a>.&nbsp;
&nbsp;
My latest book The Health Habit is out now. You can order a copy here: <a href="https://www.amantha.com/the-health-habit/">https://www.amantha.com/the-health-habit/</a>&nbsp;
Connect with me on the socials:&nbsp; Linkedin (<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanthaimber">https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanthaimber</a>)&nbsp; Instagram (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/amanthai">https://www.instagram.com/amanthai</a>)&nbsp;
If you are looking for more tips to improve the way you work and live, I write a weekly newsletter where I share practical and simple-to-apply tips to improve your life. You can sign up for that at <a href="https://amantha-imber.ck.page/subscribe">https://amantha-imber.ck.page/subscribe</a>&nbsp;
Visit <a href="https://www.amantha.com/podcast">https://www.amantha.com/podcast</a> for full show notes from all episodes.&nbsp;
Get in touch at <a href="mailto:amantha@inventium.com.au">amantha@inventium.com.au</a>&nbsp;
Credits:&nbsp; Host: Amantha Imber&nbsp; Sound Engineer: The Podcast Butler&nbsp;

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You know those annoyingly successful people who seem to have it all figured out? Time to steal their playbook. Organisational psychologist Dr Amantha Imber gets world‑class achievers to spill their secrets&nbsp;- the daily strategies behind their success through to&nbsp;life hacks and productivity hacks they&rsquo;d rather keep to themselves. We&rsquo;re talking practical tips for boosting your output (including clever AI tools and shortcuts that&rsquo;ll make you look like a genius), managing overwhelm without losing your mind, and optimising both work and wellbeing. No motivational fluff. Just battle‑tested tactics from people who&rsquo;ve cracked the code.

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