A three-inch baboon bone bearing twenty-nine deliberate incisions was pulled from a South African mountain range in 1970. It is approximately 43,000 years old, and microscopic analysis shows the notches were made over time with different cutting tools, meaning someone was tracking something and coming back to update the record. It is the oldest known dataset in the world. Twenty thousand miles away and twenty thousand years later, temple administrators in Mesopotamia were pressing small clay tokens into wet clay to record quantities of grain and livestock, and in doing so they accidentally invented writing. Both were doing the same thing: turning observations into symbols that could outlast the observer. Both were creating data. And both were laying the foundation for every census, ledger, algorithm, and surveillance system that followed.

Today's guest is Roopika Risam, author of Data Empire: The Power of Information to Organize, Control, and Dominate. We discuss how the Bronze Age collapsed in part because its diplomatic information network couldn't transmit clay tablets fast enough to coordinate a response to simultaneous crises, how Phoenician miners who couldn't read hieroglyphics invented the alphabet out of necessity in a Sinai desert mine, and why Qin Shi Huang's true immortality was not his terracotta army but his bureaucracy, the first government to treat data verification as a core function of the state. We look at how Herman Hollerith's punch card tabulator for the 1890 census became IBM and made human identity machine-readable. Risam argues that the digital age did not create data's power but inherited it, and that every algorithm processing our lives today carries the DNA of 43,000 years of counting, classifying, and controlling.

A three-inch baboon bone bearing twenty-nine deliberate incisions was pulled from a South African mountain range in 1970. It is approximately 43,000 years old, and microscopic analysis shows the notches were made over time with different cutting tools, meaning someone was tracking something and coming back to update the record. It is the oldest known dataset in the world. Twenty thousand miles away and twenty thousand years later, temple administrators in Mesopotamia were pressing small clay tokens into wet clay to record quantities of grain and livestock, and in doing so they accidentally invented writing. Both were doing the same thing: turning observations into symbols that could outlast the observer. Both were creating data. And both were laying the foundation for every census, ledger, algorithm, and surveillance system that followed.
Today's guest is Roopika Risam, author of Data Empire: The Power of Information to Organize, Control, and Dominate. We discuss how the Bronze Age collapsed in part because its diplomatic information network couldn't transmit clay tablets fast enough to coordinate a response to simultaneous crises, how Phoenician miners who couldn't read hieroglyphics invented the alphabet out of necessity in a Sinai desert mine, and why Qin Shi Huang's true immortality was not his terracotta army but his bureaucracy, the first government to treat data verification as a core function of the state. We look at how Herman Hollerith's punch card tabulator for the 1890 census became IBM and made human identity machine-readable. Risam argues that the digital age did not create data's power but inherited it, and that every algorithm processing our lives today carries the DNA of 43,000 years of counting, classifying, and controlling.

For history lovers who listen to podcasts, History Unplugged is the most comprehensive show of its kind. It's the only show that dedicates episodes to both interviewing experts and answering questions from its audience. First, it features a call-in show where you can ask our resident historian (Scott Rank, PhD) absolutely anything (What was it like to be a Turkish sultan with four wives and twelve concubines? If you were sent back in time, how would you kill Hitler?). Second, it features long-form interviews with best-selling authors who have written about everything. Topics include gruff World War II generals who flew with airmen on bombing raids, a war horse who gained the rank of sergeant, and presidents who gave their best speeches while drunk.

A show about American history, world history, World Wars 1 & 2, the Civil War, and much more.

History Unplugged Podcast

History Unplugged is one of the longest-running history podcasts of its kind, with over 1,000 episodes covering everything from Alexander the Great's plans for European colonization to the untold story of Alabamians who fought for Sherman deep inside Confederate territory. Topics range from the Bronze Age Collapse to the naval campaigns of the Barbary Wars to Daniel Boone's forced adoption by a Shawnee chief. Guests on the show include history professors, Pulitzer Prize winners, consultants for historical films, and outsiders like Joakim Brodén from Sabaton. The show is hosted by Scott Rank, a history professor specializing in the Ottoman Empire and author of 12 books. And for those who love to spin the wheel of what-if, the show regularly ventures into alternate history, exploring questions like what the USSR's victory in the Cold War would have meant for the modern world, or how our current map might look if the Confederacy had survived the Civil War.

 

History Unplugged is one of the longest-running history podcasts of its kind, with over 1,000 episodes covering everything from Alexander the Great's plans for European colonization to the untold story of Alabamians who fought for Sherman deep inside Confederate territory. Topics range from the Bronze Age Collapse to the naval campaigns of the Barbary Wars to Daniel Boone's forced adoption by a Shawnee chief. Guests on the show include history professors, Pulitzer Prize winners, consultants for historical films, and outsiders like Joakim Brod&eacute;n from Sabaton. The show is hosted by Scott Rank, a history professor specializing in the Ottoman Empire and author of 12 books. And for those who love to spin the wheel of what-if, the show regularly ventures into alternate history, exploring questions like what the USSR's victory in the Cold War would have meant for the modern world, or how our current map might look if the Confederacy had survived the Civil War.
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