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The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty find your what of a Kind?

Tim Wilson from the Maximum Institutes on the huddle tonight, Hey Tim, good afternoon, welcome back. Good to have you back. And Craig Rennie is here as well, chief economist at the c TOU, the Council of Trade Union's Craig good evening to you. Thanks having me on, Great to have you on. Can I just quickly get your reaction to both of you to the fact that Auckland Council has voted for eden Park two point one. I mean it doesn't mean anything, like Tim doesn't mean anything because you know they no one's putting any money in that they.

Tim Wilson from the Maximum Institutes on the huddle tonight, Hey Tim, good afternoon, welcome back. Good to have you back. And Craig Rennie is here as well, chief economist at the c TOU, the Council of Trade Union's Craig good evening to you. Thanks having me on, Great to have you on. Can I just quickly get your reaction to both of you to the fact that Auckland Council has voted for eden Park two point one. I mean it doesn't mean anything, like Tim doesn't mean anything because you know they no one's putting any money in that they.

Yeah, yeah, and that's that's that's where you know the money will explain just how much this is actually meaningful. But I just want to push back against people complaining about the seats at eden Park. You don't go to eden Park to sit down. You get within a meter and a half of the stage and you rock out. If you're going to do something else, just go home.

Yeah, yeah, and that's that's that's where you know the money will explain just how much this is actually meaningful. But I just want to push back against people complaining about the seats at eden Park. You don't go to eden Park to sit down. You get within a meter and a half of the stage and you rock out. If you're going to do something else, just go home.

Well, but what if you're watching cricket, Because we know cricket can go on and on and on anyway, you.

Well, but what if you're watching cricket, Because we know cricket can go on and on and on anyway, you.

Just started speaking another language, Ryan, Sorry.

Just started speaking another language, Ryan, Sorry.

Craig, Craig, what about you? I mean from a from a funding point of view, it's a lot of money, and you've got government doing phase one and then you've got a PPT PPP doing Phase two and three.

Craig, Craig, what about you? I mean from a from a funding point of view, it's a lot of money, and you've got government doing phase one and then you've got a PPT PPP doing Phase two and three.

And that's the real question is whether or not in the PPP will be asked to put back even more money in the future, and where any real guarantees for that, and who fundamentally is going to pay it, because if you're going to pay it, because the ticket prices start to rise, because we have to pay for the venue, it starts to become uneconomic really quickly. So, as Tim has said, the proof will be in the pudding and whether or not we can bring the pipeline of events and guests and things to really pay for the program that's actually being put up there.

And that's the real question is whether or not in the PPP will be asked to put back even more money in the future, and where any real guarantees for that, and who fundamentally is going to pay it, because if you're going to pay it, because the ticket prices start to rise, because we have to pay for the venue, it starts to become uneconomic really quickly. So, as Tim has said, the proof will be in the pudding and whether or not we can bring the pipeline of events and guests and things to really pay for the program that's actually being put up there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Actually ticket price is pretty expensive or really, Chris Staple for them five hundred bucks to stand.

Actually ticket price is pretty expensive or really, Chris Staple for them five hundred bucks to stand.

Up, really to stand up, Yeah, to stand on the Yeah, I'm not even sitting down on those g yeah ga, you know, sloshing in the mosha. There's a lot of money. Tim and Craig will be back in just a moment on the huddle, the huddle with.

Up, really to stand up, Yeah, to stand on the Yeah, I'm not even sitting down on those g yeah ga, you know, sloshing in the mosha. There's a lot of money. Tim and Craig will be back in just a moment on the huddle, the huddle with.

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Again fourteen away from sexties Tooks. He'd bet Tim Wilson and Craig Rennie on the huddle. This is what's his name? Stapleton? Chris Stapleton, who Tim you said played at Eden Park? Apparently he was at Spark.

Again fourteen away from sexties Tooks. He'd bet Tim Wilson and Craig Rennie on the huddle. This is what's his name? Stapleton? Chris Stapleton, who Tim you said played at Eden Park? Apparently he was at Spark.

I even said that explicitly. I just said ticket prices were high.

I even said that explicitly. I just said ticket prices were high.

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Donald Trump, you could run for anything. Someone also says Bollocks telled him it's two hundred and fifty five for Chris Stapleton. I was standing. But that doesn't mean that also doesn't mean that you're wrong, because there could have been different prices, you know what I mean, depending on when you bought them.

Donald Trump, you could run for anything. Someone also says Bollocks telled him it's two hundred and fifty five for Chris Stapleton. I was standing. But that doesn't mean that also doesn't mean that you're wrong, because there could have been different prices, you know what I mean, depending on when you bought them.

So just now keep telling me off Ryan it was two fifty. It was two fifty for Luke Comb standing up at Eden Park.

So just now keep telling me off Ryan it was two fifty. It was two fifty for Luke Comb standing up at Eden Park.

Yeah, that was was a good gig though. Hey, hey, I've had a couple of texts just in the last minute saying for actually like a lot, saying you didn't ask about the roof on the stadium. So just to clarify the roof, So stage one is your seating for Eden Park, Stage two is your accommodation. Stage three is your roof. So you've got to get the PPP to get your roof. That's the deal now, Tamitha, Paul Craig, what's your feeling. I mean, obviously Hepkins feels like this is just toxic, so he's running a country mile from her putting the boot in. What's your feeling about how it might affect the vote on the left.

Yeah, that was was a good gig though. Hey, hey, I've had a couple of texts just in the last minute saying for actually like a lot, saying you didn't ask about the roof on the stadium. So just to clarify the roof, So stage one is your seating for Eden Park, Stage two is your accommodation. Stage three is your roof. So you've got to get the PPP to get your roof. That's the deal now, Tamitha, Paul Craig, what's your feeling. I mean, obviously Hepkins feels like this is just toxic, so he's running a country mile from her putting the boot in. What's your feeling about how it might affect the vote on the left.

I don't think it's going to affect the Green vault anytime soon. I mean, it's clearly bringing some really unfortunate news and publicity for the Green Party, but I don't think in the long run it's going to make any real meaningful difference to the Green Party voard. And I don't think anyone, including Tamitha, is really suggesting that we're really going to defunding the police. This is being used by the government essentially to help, you know, look away from a lot of the challenges that they have in this space, because they like to talk a great game about law and order. You know, they've promised five hundred more police at the election and we're currently manus seventy one on that scale. So they've got a really, really difficult set of challenges in that space, and this has just been seized by them as just a as a means of distracting attention from a whole bunch of statistics that they don't really want to talk about in crime right.

I don't think it's going to affect the Green vault anytime soon. I mean, it's clearly bringing some really unfortunate news and publicity for the Green Party, but I don't think in the long run it's going to make any real meaningful difference to the Green Party voard. And I don't think anyone, including Tamitha, is really suggesting that we're really going to defunding the police. This is being used by the government essentially to help, you know, look away from a lot of the challenges that they have in this space, because they like to talk a great game about law and order. You know, they've promised five hundred more police at the election and we're currently manus seventy one on that scale. So they've got a really, really difficult set of challenges in that space, and this has just been seized by them as just a as a means of distracting attention from a whole bunch of statistics that they don't really want to talk about in crime right.

Now, Tim, then how do you explain Chris Hipkins' response? I mean, is he trying to distract from something too?

Now, Tim, then how do you explain Chris Hipkins' response? I mean, is he trying to distract from something too?

Yeah, Look, I think I think it shows the sort of labor issue, which is how do you be a centrist party? So yeah, I think Craig is absolutely right about the Greens, particularly the non mainstream aspect. And if you think about you go back to what was it late last year in Pea Green and Peak kaharrang Ikata was saying in the house that most people would feel more comfor the ball alone with the patch gang member then police. So I think ten of the Paul's comments on that spectrum they're actually pretty benign. I think it does highlight though, an issue where Okay, so Chris Hopkins is now sort of on song with the government since and it might present some issues when Craig apparently is going to run for the Wellington Central seat as predicted by Audrey Young, Could you clarify that, Craig, I.

Yeah, Look, I think I think it shows the sort of labor issue, which is how do you be a centrist party? So yeah, I think Craig is absolutely right about the Greens, particularly the non mainstream aspect. And if you think about you go back to what was it late last year in Pea Green and Peak kaharrang Ikata was saying in the house that most people would feel more comfor the ball alone with the patch gang member then police. So I think ten of the Paul's comments on that spectrum they're actually pretty benign. I think it does highlight though, an issue where Okay, so Chris Hopkins is now sort of on song with the government since and it might present some issues when Craig apparently is going to run for the Wellington Central seat as predicted by Audrey Young, Could you clarify that, Craig, I.

Can clarify Audrey is entitled to her opinion in that space.

Can clarify Audrey is entitled to her opinion in that space.

But I'm here, is this an announcement?

But I'm here, is this an announcement?

It is definitely not an announcement. What I would say is that you know, of course, the of course Chris Hoppins is going to support the police and their space, and I think that Labor Party's ever not supported the police in the space and you know, and there were regular increases to police funding and regular support for the police are in the last government. So I don't think, you know, Chris is seeing anything other than he would have said if he was Prime Minister or if he was anywhere else. All Right, it's a really unfortunate statement. It's just being dragged and used for a different purpose.

It is definitely not an announcement. What I would say is that you know, of course, the of course Chris Hoppins is going to support the police and their space, and I think that Labor Party's ever not supported the police in the space and you know, and there were regular increases to police funding and regular support for the police are in the last government. So I don't think, you know, Chris is seeing anything other than he would have said if he was Prime Minister or if he was anywhere else. All Right, it's a really unfortunate statement. It's just being dragged and used for a different purpose.

Now, Craig, we were going to get to this, but seen as you didn't quite answer the question would you rule out running for Wellington Central? I mean, there's this total bogus.

Now, Craig, we were going to get to this, but seen as you didn't quite answer the question would you rule out running for Wellington Central? I mean, there's this total bogus.

I'm not ruling running out for anywhere, are ruling in running from anywhere? There's there's what there's eighteen months to an election. It's not long now, it's it's five hundred and eighty one days from memory.

I'm not ruling running out for anywhere, are ruling in running from anywhere? There's there's what there's eighteen months to an election. It's not long now, it's it's five hundred and eighty one days from memory.

And if you know it that accurately, you are differently running are counting.

And if you know it that accurately, you are differently running are counting.

I know it that accurately because we have to spend every day campaigning between now and then in order to meet show people know what this governments do it.

I know it that accurately because we have to spend every day campaigning between now and then in order to meet show people know what this governments do it.

Come on, all right, let's move on. Judith Collins, she actually this will be up. You're really too Craig, but term Judith Collins was on the show tonight saying the consultant spend is coming right down, but she's saying brace for impact because we're going to do something about the number ofblic servants that they're not the teachers and doctors, but bureaucracy as well.

Come on, all right, let's move on. Judith Collins, she actually this will be up. You're really too Craig, but term Judith Collins was on the show tonight saying the consultant spend is coming right down, but she's saying brace for impact because we're going to do something about the number ofblic servants that they're not the teachers and doctors, but bureaucracy as well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, And look because at the moment it's been a wound back to the levels that were six months before the last election. So the public service size at the moment is about the same time or about the same levels as when Jacinda Don was Prime Minister. So there's clearly work to be done. Just to note that eight hundred pud million dollars that was saved will service a month and a week of debt servicing for the government debts. So let's let's say that's that's pretty good going.

Yeah, And look because at the moment it's been a wound back to the levels that were six months before the last election. So the public service size at the moment is about the same time or about the same levels as when Jacinda Don was Prime Minister. So there's clearly work to be done. Just to note that eight hundred pud million dollars that was saved will service a month and a week of debt servicing for the government debts. So let's let's say that's that's pretty good going.

God, that's a lot of money, isn't it. And I mean it's not just our government to be fair. Governments all over the world post COVID are dealing with a huge increase in servicing costs because of the money that we've borrowed. But that is something to behold. A one month and one week will get you the eight hundred million dollars. Craig, what do you make of the Judith Collins saying she's going to basically do some more cutting.

God, that's a lot of money, isn't it. And I mean it's not just our government to be fair. Governments all over the world post COVID are dealing with a huge increase in servicing costs because of the money that we've borrowed. But that is something to behold. A one month and one week will get you the eight hundred million dollars. Craig, what do you make of the Judith Collins saying she's going to basically do some more cutting.

Well, it's not surprising because they have and being able to make any of their accounts add up. You know, during the election campaign we said that they couldn't afford the tax promises that they had made at the time, and lo and behold, they borrowed more money at the budget in order to pay for the taxes that they'd promised to deliver. So they're going to keep cutting. The budget policy statement from the government said that they were going to keep cutting. The key thing for me is you say you're going to get rid of eight hundred million dollars of consultants. Fine, does that mean that you're expecting public servants to do that work or does that just mean you're not doing work who's doing the work of government? Or are you just trying to do less? And we know there are no shortage of problems, So the real question is where are the consultants coming from. Are they coming from the building of units of housing, of infrastructure the kinds of things we want to see, or are they coming from somewhere else? And Judith's been a bit quiet about actually where those consultants are coming from and importantly what those savings are being used for, because right now they're being used to deliver the tax cuts that were delivered at the last budget. They're going to have to keep cutting in the next budget if they want to deliver more tax cuts, as their look they seem to want to do on May twenty second.

Well, it's not surprising because they have and being able to make any of their accounts add up. You know, during the election campaign we said that they couldn't afford the tax promises that they had made at the time, and lo and behold, they borrowed more money at the budget in order to pay for the taxes that they'd promised to deliver. So they're going to keep cutting. The budget policy statement from the government said that they were going to keep cutting. The key thing for me is you say you're going to get rid of eight hundred million dollars of consultants. Fine, does that mean that you're expecting public servants to do that work or does that just mean you're not doing work who's doing the work of government? Or are you just trying to do less? And we know there are no shortage of problems, So the real question is where are the consultants coming from. Are they coming from the building of units of housing, of infrastructure the kinds of things we want to see, or are they coming from somewhere else? And Judith's been a bit quiet about actually where those consultants are coming from and importantly what those savings are being used for, because right now they're being used to deliver the tax cuts that were delivered at the last budget. They're going to have to keep cutting in the next budget if they want to deliver more tax cuts, as their look they seem to want to do on May twenty second.

Craig, it's a well polished it's a well polished pitch for the Wellington Central voters. I have to say, well done.

Craig, it's a well polished it's a well polished pitch for the Wellington Central voters. I have to say, well done.

The question the question with the public services is a bigger public service, a better public service, and that's the other question that we need to engage with absolutely.

The question the question with the public services is a bigger public service, a better public service, and that's the other question that we need to engage with absolutely.

Tim, thank you very much for coming on. Tim Wilson Maxim Institute and to you Craig as well Craig A and E chief economists at the councilor Trade Unions and of course soon to be laboring peak well labor candidate. Let's not give them that yet.

Tim, thank you very much for coming on. Tim Wilson Maxim Institute and to you Craig as well Craig A and E chief economists at the councilor Trade Unions and of course soon to be laboring peak well labor candidate. Let's not give them that yet.

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