The Auditor General has slammed the public service after looking at how tax payer money is spent.
He's found a lot of them don't measure whether the money they're spending is making a difference.
Performance measures for the Education Ministry include how many times the website is visited.
Former Work and Income boss Christine Rankin told Heather du-Plessis Allan the timing of this is evident.
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