Finance Minister Nicola Willis joined Heather du Plessis-Allan for their weekly chat.

On the Golden Bay Cement bailout, Willis defended the Government's decision to not change the ETS and instead provide funding directly to the company.

"If we had said 'actually no, the ETS doesn't apply to you, Golden Bay Cement', there would have been a conga, well, there could have been a conga line of others who would have said, 'hey, we don't want the ETS to apply to us either.'"

Willis also confirmed that Erica Stanford is expected to make announcements on a potential social media ban in the coming weeks. 

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Finance Minister Nicola Willis joined Heather du Plessis-Allan for their weekly chat.
On the Golden Bay Cement bailout, Willis defended the Government's decision to not change the ETS and instead provide funding directly to the company.
"If we had said 'actually no, the ETS doesn't apply to you, Golden Bay Cement', there would have been a conga, well, there could have been a conga line of others who would have said, 'hey, we don't want the ETS to apply to us either.'"
Willis also confirmed that Erica Stanford is expected to make announcements on a potential social media ban in the coming weeks.&nbsp;
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With a straight down the middle approach, Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive on Newstalk ZB delivers the very latest news and views to New Zealanders as they wrap up their day.

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Nicola Willis: Finance Minister chats decision behind Golden Bay Cement bailout

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Tonight on The Huddle, Childfund CEO Josie Pagani and Sherson Willis co-founder Trish Sherson joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!

The big topic of debate is the latest election policy announcements out of NZ First and Greens both focusing on drastically different approaches to energy.

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Tonight on The Huddle, Childfund CEO Josie Pagani and Sherson Willis co-founder Trish Sherson joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
The big topic of debate is the latest election policy announcements out of NZ First and Greens both focusing on drastically different approaches to energy.
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The Huddle: The election energy policy battle

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On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Monday, 20 July, 2026, Sir Bob Charles tells us why he's such a big fan of the way Open golf champion Ryan Fox plays.

Resource Management Reform Minister Chris Bishop explains how the government's getting rid of iwi agreements with local councils.

We look at how you can get a kitset granny flat - and what it'll cost you.

And on The Huddle, Josie Pagani and Trish Sherson on whether they like the Greens' energy policy, including a new company, Kiwipower.

Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Monday, 20 July, 2026, Sir Bob Charles tells us why he's such a big fan of the way Open golf champion Ryan Fox plays.
Resource Management Reform Minister Chris Bishop explains how the government's getting rid of iwi agreements with local councils.
We look at how you can get a kitset granny flat - and what it'll cost you.
And on The Huddle, Josie Pagani and Trish Sherson on whether they like the Greens' energy policy, including a new company, Kiwipower.
Get the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast every weekday evening on iHeartRadio, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Full Show Podcast: 20 July 2026 

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Well, I think we can probably call it: in the end, no one cared enough about the controversies at the Football World Cup. We all just had a really good time watching it.

Anyone hoping, and there were definitely people hoping, that this would be the World Cup where the corruption would finally be too much, the controversies would finally be too much, and something would be done about it, will be horribly disappointed.

Already, it sounds like UEFA is ignoring calls to deal with FIFA president Gianni Infantino after US President Donald Trump involved himself in getting the red card overturned. And already, more than 200 of FIFA's member associations have formally backed Infantino for re-election.

I think those two things should tell you more than anything else that nothing is going to come from any of the politics or any of the controversies.

Instead, what's going to happen is that Infantino will celebrate yet another successful tournament. The football was great. It wasn't diluted by the extra teams, which is what people were worried about. It wasn't predictable. You had surprise successes like Cape Verde.

Nearly seven million fans passed through the gates. 

That is, by the way, enormous.

That's double the previous record, which was set in the US 32 years ago. Ninety-nine-point-seven percent of tickets were sold. They think the final will be the most-watched football match on record.

Now, sure, in years to come we're going to remember that Trump got a red card overturned, just as we're going to remember the rainbow armband drama in Qatar. But, we're also going to remember that the Argies got really heated up and had a fight after the final, that Lionel Messi got a hat-trick and that Eli Just scored a double for the All Whites, who actually turned out to be not half bad and gave us some hope that maybe quality football is finally improving in this country.

In the end, the controversies are just part of the story but they didn't stop people going to the games or watching the games, which is so predictable because this is what happens every single time.

Well, I think we can probably call it: in the end, no one cared enough about the controversies at the Football World Cup. We all just had a really good time watching it.
Anyone hoping, and there were definitely people hoping, that this would be the World Cup where the corruption would finally be too much, the controversies would finally be too much, and something would be done about it, will be horribly disappointed.
Already, it sounds like UEFA is ignoring calls to deal with FIFA president Gianni Infantino after US President Donald Trump involved himself in getting the red card overturned. And already, more than 200 of FIFA's member associations have formally backed Infantino for re-election.
I think those two things should tell you more than anything else that nothing is going to come from any of the politics or any of the controversies.
Instead, what's going to happen is that Infantino will celebrate yet another successful tournament. The football was great. It wasn't diluted by the extra teams, which is what people were worried about. It wasn't predictable. You had surprise successes like Cape Verde.
Nearly seven million fans passed through the gates.&nbsp;
That is, by the way, enormous.
That's double the previous record, which was set in the US 32 years ago. Ninety-nine-point-seven percent of tickets were sold. They think the final will be the most-watched football match on record.
Now, sure, in years to come we're going to remember that Trump got a red card overturned, just as we're going to remember the rainbow armband drama in Qatar. But, we're also going to remember that the Argies got really heated up and had a fight after the final, that Lionel Messi got a hat-trick and that Eli Just scored a double for the All Whites, who actually turned out to be not half bad and gave us some hope that maybe quality football is finally improving in this country.
In the end, the controversies are just part of the story but they didn't stop people going to the games or watching the games, which is so predictable because this is what happens every single time.

Perspective with Heather du Plessis-Allan: The fun outweighed the controversies at the World Cup

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Nicola Willis: Finance Minister chats decision behind Golden Bay Cement bailout

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